I believe TW thinks that if there's compelling evidence for a D1 lynch to do so.

 

Rafay's activity, again, is wanting, after he committed to being more active. He goes on my list with Captainjf

 

Also: Lyner: NL would win if tied with Rafay, since NL got to half majority first.

 

I'd rather go NL than lynch a townie D1. Unless someone has compelling evidence against Rafay (and I'm pretty sure there isn't any, and we all know I hate how he plays) I won't be changing my vote.

D1 lynch is pretty much a popularity vote, there won't ever be any solid evidence unless the scums have some loose screws

 

 

 

Anyways, I'm giving scum points for those who didn't try to vote seriously.

What more would you like to hear, or do you just want to look like you're adding pressure?

I was asking for whether or not you, Lyner, and Rafay had developed a feeling on anyone in particular since you have the fewest posts other than captainjf. I am interested to hear any thoughts you have and am encouraging you to share them.

 

Does anyone know if the warrior is usually for a day one lynch?

I don't believe that a day 1 lynch should automatically be ruled out. We may not have any hard evidence on anything (unless someone royally screws up) but getting everyone to talk, strategize, and see how they respond when questioned should absolutely happen. If everyone just votes "No Lynch" right away the town has gained nothing and the game might as well have started on night 1.

 

Since the options are lynching Rafay or no lynching for today (since we are already past the deadline), I will at least put a vote on the record before Kevin closes the game and vote no lynch. I have suspicion with how Rafay spoke up on captainjf's behalf before he would even do so though.

 

I can also see a scenario where Captainjf could have checked into the game and saw several votes on me (including Rafay) and might have made a rookie mistake by thinking "Well I see that my scum partner voted for TW so that must be a good move. I'll vote for TW too."

 

That alone isn't enough evidence for me to seriously vote for Rafay or Captainjf yet so:

 

Vote: No Lynch

Unvote

 

Vote: No Lynch 

Vote Count:

Rafay (2): iSocialism, Lyner,
iSocialism (0):
The Warrior (0):
Lyner (0):
Electric Mango (0):
Captainjf (0):
LordSunday (0):
Finster Baby (0):
Robert2424 (0):

 

No lynch: Finster Baby, Robert2424, LordSunday, Electric Mango, The Warrior, Rafay,

 

Not voting: Captainjf,

 
Day 1 ends with no lynch.

 

It is now Night 1.

Please send all night actions to me by 17:00 EDT Monday, March 27.  

If all night actions come in earlier, I'll open Day 2 early.

Night 1 ends.

Lyner, Vanilla Townie, has been killed in the night.

It is now Day 2.


Vote Count:

Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
The Warrior (0):
Electric Mango (0):
Captainjf (0):
LordSunday (0):
Finster Baby (0):
Robert2424 (0):

 

No lynch:

 

Not voting: Captainjf, iSocialism, Finster Baby, Robert2424, LordSunday, Electric Mango, The Warrior, Rafay,

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, April 5, at 12:00 EDT.

Bah!

Lyner had his vote on me. It is possible that scum purposefully killed him to sow the seeds of mistrust among the townies about me.

Gah! I need to pay attention better. I didn't realize Kevin went to night then day 2. *shakes fist at RL*

 

Lyner is dead - he voted for Rafay. Does this potentially mean Rafay is scum and getting paybacks for OMGUS? Maybe, but I'm not 100% convinced. Onto my list he goes.

 

captainjf still lives on my list due to his D1 activities.

 

I also cast some direction towards TW. He's easily the best player and most analytical among us, and he's still alive. If I were scum I'd probably have pushed for his lynching based on that alone. However, he lives. This doesn't mean he's scum, it just means I need to watch him a bit.

At this point I'm very suspicious of both captainjf and Rafay. I truly think that captain came into the game and popped a vote onto TW after seeing his scummy buddy Rafay voted up. After getting called out for it by Robert and Fin, Rafay came to the defense of captain. Captain also was caught being somewhat dishonest after saying:

 

 

Well, because this is the first time I've logged on since I made that post. I've been quite busy.

 

So, I suppose I will withdraw my vote until someone acts suspiciously...

 

UNVOTE

 

Captain had still made a post prior, where instead of explaining his vote simply agreed with TW and added no substantial value to his defense. After that most questions we asked were answered with almost skeletal responses.

 

I'm interested to hear more from these two as the day wears on.

 

@captain, I'd also like to hear your responses to iSoc's questions, I've quoted them below:

 

 

@captainjf. What are your thoughts about the game/players right now. Anyone that jumps out to you as suspicious?

Are you oppose to a no-lynch vote on day one?

Is activity or the lack of a good or bad thing?

 

These are some basic question that normally go around on the day one. It will help you be involve, and not to be lynched because of the lack of participation. You don't have to answer all of them, or any of them. However, it's a good idea to have these questions in your mind.

 

Some people will argue that a no-lynch is a pro-town move, while some as myself. Will say that it's just an easy place to let the scum hide, and strike during the night without much info the next day. A no-lynch just extends day one, just under the name of "day two"though. Wagons build info, such as your third vote on TW. It allows us to see who someone is willing to vote for, defend, or not vote for. If TW flips scum, you probably would be consider town afterwards.

Lord and captain are the new guys. Everyone else is experience. TW could have been spared, by someone giving grace... most likely mercy If I were scum I wouldn't go after just the experience guys, but someone that I felt had a PR. It would just be a plus if they were experience as well. Though, everyone besides the new guys I would consider experience. All of which are capable of changing the game. Specially if that someone had a PR. If I were scum TW wouldn't have been my first choice, he was creating conflict, which has the capacity of involuntary taking out other town. Lyner wasn't stepping on too many people toes. Maybe the scum felt that he had a PR... My choice for a night kill would have been FB base mainly off of his capabilities.

 

So far, no one is sticking out to me. captain probably got scared off by you guys. Rafay will never talk. Lord is still new, he could claim being scum, but I still wouldn't know what to think of him. Robert is quieter than most games. TW is alive on d2. Forgot EM was playing, and FB is here.

Vote Count:

Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
The Warrior (0):
Electric Mango (0):
Captainjf (0):
LordSunday (0):
Finster Baby (0):
Robert2424 (0):

 

No lynch:

 

Not voting: Captainjf, iSocialism, Finster Baby, Robert2424, LordSunday, Electric Mango, The Warrior, Rafay,

 
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, April 5, at 12:00 EDT.

 

 

Lyner is dead - he voted for Rafay. Does this potentially mean Rafay is scum and getting paybacks for OMGUS? Maybe, but I'm not 100% convinced. Onto my list he goes.

 

 

Wow you're bright wren't you? That's what I bloody said. The scum wanted to frame me. I've played before I wouldn't go OMGUS as scum.

 

 

 

TW is alive on d2.

 

This alone makes me suspicious of TW. Also he hasn't spoken sine the day began. 

 

Lyner is dead - he voted for Rafay. Does this potentially mean Rafay is scum and getting paybacks for OMGUS? Maybe, but I'm not 100% convinced. Onto my list he goes.

 

 

Wow you're bright wren't you? That's what I bloody said. The scum wanted to frame me. I've played before I wouldn't go OMGUS as scum.

 

Aw shaddap.

 

 

 

This alone makes me suspicious of TW. Also he hasn't spoken sine the day began.

I'll cut him some slack there - he's been organizing/running 2 wars. That tends to make one busy.

 

Lyner is dead - he voted for Rafay. Does this potentially mean Rafay is scum and getting paybacks for OMGUS? Maybe, but I'm not 100% convinced. Onto my list he goes.

 

 

Wow you're bright wren't you? That's what I bloody said. The scum wanted to frame me. I've played before I wouldn't go OMGUS as scum.

 

 

 

TW is alive on d2.

 

This alone makes me suspicious of TW. Also he hasn't spoken sine the day began. 

 

 

Rafay not sure if this was answered already but I'm interested to know what was prompting you to come to the defense of captain so quickly in D1, when he only had 1 vote on him because of his mistake?

Sorry to see that Lyner was the night 1 target.

 

Lyner was relatively quiet on day 1 (7 posts total I think) and didn't really push anyone. He commented in his very first post in the game (post #21) that he had played this setup before and won it (albeit as a member of the mafia). My guess is that the scum team thought that he could have a power role and went for him. Additionally, they probably assumed that leaving me alive would make me suspicious and allow them the opportunity to kill Lyner on night 1 and push for my lynch on day 2 simply because I am still alive.

 

Lyner was not overly aggressive in voting for anyone but he did note the fact that Rafay had seemingly defended captainjf twice on day 1. It's worth noting.

 

Lyner had his vote on me. It is possible that scum purposefully killed him to sow the seeds of mistrust among the townies about me.

Perhaps, but framing someone like this is also a common argument for scum to make. This argument alone doesn't clear you.

 

Gah! I need to pay attention better. I didn't realize Kevin went to night then day 2. *shakes fist at RL*

Lyner is dead - he voted for Rafay. Does this potentially mean Rafay is scum and getting paybacks for OMGUS? Maybe, but I'm not 100% convinced. Onto my list he goes.

captainjf still lives on my list due to his D1 activities.

I also cast some direction towards TW. He's easily the best player and most analytical among us, and he's still alive. If I were scum I'd probably have pushed for his lynching based on that alone. However, he lives. This doesn't mean he's scum, it just means I need to watch him a bit.

 

I can't tell you with certainty why I am alive but I have three guesses:

 

1) The scum team assumed that the town would see me alive on day 2 which would instantly cast suspicion upon me because I wasn't killed on night 1 like I have been for the last 3 games. This would be an even easier sell for them after I challenged a few people who could be town on day 1. This would allow them to see if the town will lynch me on day 2 on their own while they killed someone else instead that they see as a potential threat (Lyner) on night 1. (Most Likely)

2) Someone had pity on me after being killed on the first night of every game I'm not modding. (Less Likely)

3) The two scum are both newer players that don't know my play style and therefore didn't kill me on night 1. (Least Likely)

 

 

At this point I'm very suspicious of both captainjf and Rafay. I truly think that captain came into the game and popped a vote onto TW after seeing his scummy buddy Rafay voted up. After getting called out for it by Robert and Fin, Rafay came to the defense of captain. Captain also was caught being somewhat dishonest after saying:

 

 

Well, because this is the first time I've logged on since I made that post. I've been quite busy.

 

So, I suppose I will withdraw my vote until someone acts suspiciously...

 

UNVOTE

 

Captain had still made a post prior, where instead of explaining his vote simply agreed with TW and added no substantial value to his defense. After that most questions we asked were answered with almost skeletal responses.

 

I'm interested to hear more from these two as the day wears on.

I am still eyeing captainjf's vote as potential evidence as well. If captainjf is scum and checked into the game for the first time to see his scum partner voting for me, he very easily could have simply followed suit and done the same because he assumed it was a good move to make. This scenario would mean that either Rafay or LordSunday is the other scum. Of the two I am most suspicious of Rafay, but I am watching LordSunday as well just in case.

 

If it so happened that LordSunday and captainjf were scum, then my third guess above as to why I am still alive (about the 2 scum being new players) would be true.

 

Lord and captain are the new guys. Everyone else is experience. TW could have been spared, by someone giving grace... most likely mercy If I were scum I wouldn't go after just the experience guys, but someone that I felt had a PR. It would just be a plus if they were experience as well. Though, everyone besides the new guys I would consider experience. All of which are capable of changing the game. Specially if that someone had a PR. If I were scum TW wouldn't have been my first choice, he was creating conflict, which has the capacity of involuntary taking out other town. Lyner wasn't stepping on too many people toes. Maybe the scum felt that he had a PR... My choice for a night kill would have been FB base mainly off of his capabilities.

 

So far, no one is sticking out to me. captain probably got scared off by you guys. Rafay will never talk. Lord is still new, he could claim being scum, but I still wouldn't know what to think of him. Robert is quieter than most games. TW is alive on d2. Forgot EM was playing, and FB is here.

iSoc highlights here some of my thoughts about why I might not have been targeted on night 1 and Lyner was.
 

 

 

TW is alive on d2.

 

This alone makes me suspicious of TW. Also he hasn't spoken sine the day began.

If this alone makes you suspicious of me, I suggest you look in another direction. My grandmother's funeral was yesterday.

 

And if not having spoken yet (before your post) casts any shade my direction, where is the FOS on EM, Robert, or captainjf? None of them have posted on day 2.

TW: Sorry about your grandmother.

 

Captain and Rafay are 1a/1b on my suspect lists currently based on posting/voting habits.

TW: Sorry about your grandmother.

 

Captain and Rafay are 1a/1b on my suspect lists currently based on posting/voting habits.

Thanks man. She was my last living grandparent.

 

@EM, Robert, captainjf - Since we haven't heard from you yet today, any thoughts on Lyner being targeted?

Vote: captainjf

 

Hasn't been on the forums in 5 days now, so there's that. And yes, I know both him and I are new but his posts thus far leave a scummy taste in my mouth. If something else of significant value happens I might change my mind, but for now I'm confident putting my vote where it is. Also, we need more activity and discussion from those who haven't been speaking much (Robert, EM, Rafay)

 

 

Rafay not sure if this was answered already but I'm interested to know what was prompting you to come to the defense of captain so quickly in D1, when he only had 1 vote on him because of his mistake?

 

I believe I answered that question on D1. I defended him as a new player feeling he might lose interest in the game.

 

 

 

If this alone makes you suspicious of me, I suggest you look in another direction. My grandmother's funeral was yesterday.

 

My sincere condolences.  

 

 

 

@EM, Robert, captainjf - Since we haven't heard from you yet today, any thoughts on Lyner being targeted?

 

Good call. 

If captain doesn't respond soon we might want to look for a replacemet. Maybe the same for EM

The thread only reopened yesterday, no need to look for my replacement just yet.

 

I would assume the scum targeted Lyner in hopes that he had a power role. Rafay was drawing a lot of heat as well D1 Lyners death could also been used to put even more pressure on him today.

I believe I answered that question on D1. I defended him as a new player feeling he might lose interest in the game.

 

So you didn't find the move he made suspicious? I'd be interested to hear your current list and who sticks out to you (I know you've mentioned TW).

 

 

So you didn't find the move he made suspicious? I'd be interested to hear your current list and who sticks out to you (I know you've mentioned TW).

 

TW, captain and you considering you're pressing hard for my lynch. 

TW, captain and you considering you're pressing hard for my lynch.

 

Last I checked asking for clarification and thoughts from someone wasn't "pressing hard for their lynch." I wanted to know where you stood in your thoughts about captain being scum since he's on quite a few lists and you've been standing up for him despite that. You've answered my question, I didn't say a thing about lynching you.

 

Now I will say I find it confusing that you say captain is suspicious, yet you've still defended him instead of asking him questions that you would maybe feel are less, uh, intimidating? then the votes that built onto him. Following the claim that you defended him as the new guy who might get scared away is fine and all, but if he's suspect of being scum that can't be ignored simply because of his game experience... Very confusing, but I'll leave it be for now