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[MK-3] Pick Your Power X/Y - Town Wins


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I use this generator for assigning roles.
 
http://adv-random-gen.sourceforge.net/rand-gen/index.php?gen=mafia

 

As suggested by Lord MK, I used the generator.
 

MafiaScum Random Generator: Step 3 / 3
Press refresh to generate another random configuration.
Scum: GoldIron
Scum: FrigidInferno
Scum: iSocialism
Town: Brewersalliance
Town: Robert2424
Town: legoboyvdlp
Town: Lachiton
Town: KevinH
Town: Rafay
Town: Vgmmaster
Town: SeaBeeGipson
Town: Canik
Town: KitKat16
Town: The Warrior

 
FoS: GoldIron, FrigidInferno, iSocialism

 

because it can't truly be random.  

 

so lets say its not truly random.  what would determine the outcome?  most likely the order the names were written, and the chances you and MK listed them in the same order is almost slim to none.  so saying its not random and putting a FoS on them has zero merit.  I really hope you were just being facetious, but if you were not, then def FoS on KevinH 



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I really hope you were just being facetious,

 

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I read Kevin's post as being a joke.

I was away for a while for like 2 days.
 
My defense: I'm a new player, there no reason I can be a scum. I don't even know why people are saying scum instead of mafia.
Lord MK wouldn't just give a new player a difficult role to play.

I really hope that this isn't your only contribution.. There is zero reason why you couldn't be scum simply because you're new. I was scum in my very first mafia game too. Game moderators assign roles randomly.

My earlier vote for you was a lulz vote because you hadn't contributed yet but now I'm inclined to keep my FOS on you. Do you have any thoughts about the game yet?
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So I can confirm it is random

 

FoS: legoboyvdlp

for confirming a hypothesis by only using two data points.

 

Yet another hilarious post by kevin, fucking goddamnit you made me fall of me seat.

Fos: GoldIron, for reasons stated by others.


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So I can confirm it is random

 

FoS: legoboyvdlp

for confirming a hypothesis by only using two data points.

 

Yet another hilarious post by kevin, fucking goddamnit you made me fall of me seat.

Fos: GoldIron, for reasons stated by others.

 

 

fos frigidinferno for appalling spelling, only scum would spell "off" without both f's and it pains my eyes


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This has been a better day 1 than usual, anyway.
Apart from KitKat's jokes... :)

I'll give GoldIron a few days, then I'll probably upgrade to a vote if no futher evidence against him being scum comes up. Because right now, I'm smelling a very fishy smell on him.
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jesus christ, i blame lag from keyboard to computer, it's wireless and apparently i type to fast ;)


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Brain's a bit mush right now as I'm not used to working overnights (which I'm doing all week) so I feel like I'm forgetting something. That said, some of what stands out to me on a first read of what I've missed.

 

oh this has started how incredibly exciting

 

i just thought i'd save you all the bother and announce in advance that i, robert and tw are the scum (sorry to give you away guys)

 

am i messing with you or am i not? or a sort of combination of both? find out next time on d2 of pick your power

 

vote: lachiton for great justice/ omgus

 

Quoting for reference. Inclined to believe this is just Kitkat being Kitkat, but could be doubling down on his joking matter.

 

Wtf?
Hmm... ok...?
Well... only one way to find out and that is

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Though actually, seeing we have power roles, should we potentially lynch town? Is he lying or not?
Or do we lymch him anyway and investigate Kitkat? Hard to figure out.
I reccomend leaving kitkat to day 2 to see if his info is correct and what information he actually has

 

Something about the Kitkat shenanigans leaves a bad taste in my mouth. First of all, what possible information can Kitkat have that's worth keeping alive to day 2 for? If he's scum, it's one hell of a risk sacrificing a scum partner like that. If Robert (or The Warrior) is town, it proves nothing with any knowledge Kitkat has or doesn't have. The only info he would have right now is who his scum buddies are (and in effect who the town is) if Kitkat is scum.

 

Also in the Kitkat camp:

 

It would really suck if we didnt have a cop though, re-reading through the roles it sounds semi powerful compared to others such as 1-night vig or Neighborizer(which, btw, sounds a lot like a role-blocker to me). Hopefully someone chose it so we can have a little more umphh.

Canik sounds too much like trump(who btw was/is possibly facing impeachment charges, cant remember if their still going on) so I still say we need to be rid of him ;)

 

 

Wtf?
Hmm... ok...?
Well... only one way to find out and that is
 

Why would you vote Robert when KitKat was the one who said it?
If KitKat said it, hoping you'd lynch him as he mentioned two townies, so we'd follow suit and lynch them both, why would we start with Robert?
Why would recommend leaving KitKat to Day 2? Are you insinuating the cop should investigate KitKat? That requires 1 - no one to block the cops ability or no roles to alter KitKat's results, and 2) us to have a cop.
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I fail to see your logic here
 
 
 
I chose Robert randomly from between The Warrior and Robert. I believed it was best to leave Kitkat alone to see a) what information he is alluding to on day 2 and B) if he is lying or not, depending on what investigative roles there are in the game. It will be clear if his information regarding Robert proves to be false. On the other hand, an investigative role could also investigate the named people tonight, but that also depends on exactly those points which you mentioned. Just so you know, those sunglasses were meant to be b ), but B) turns out to be short for the sunglasses emoticon. I can't edit it to fix it. 

I also believe that kitkat should be investigated night 2, considering the fact that if kit IS mafia, kit might be making a bluff to get rid of two non-mafia. So if someone investigates the others and finds them inno, we can move on to other sus rather than lynching them. Not sure if what I said makes sense but imo the warrior and robert are now the last on my sus list.
I'll try to sum it up: Kit comes out as mafia, it turns out kit IS actually mafia, so now we are desperate to lynch/kill tw and robert, who, for all we know, could be the more powerful townies or at the other end of the spectrucm, a fruit vendor and a neighborizer.

Then theres the other side where tw and robert ARE mafia, but we think kit is bluffing so we do nothing at all.
Im just putting this out here

 

 

I'm not outright saying that all three of these people are mafia, but this whole exchange with Lego / Frigid / Kitkat is rubbing me the wrong way. Both Frigid and Lego are saying it's best to not do anything to Kitkat until day two? But why? I happened to notice mention that Frigid has played a lot of Town of Salem which could lead to him possibly doing a risky maneuver. Considering the scum can talk during the day, we can't rule out some sort of collaboration attempt.

 

Can't help but wonder if it's a sacrificial move of some kind. Maybe the scum all out themselves right away (intentionally or not) and hope to lost heat in a reverse psychology way of thinking.

 

tbf the two on the wagon are first time players, though Inferno or whatever he calls himself is an experienced Town of Salem player apparently. But a wagon forming 2/3 days into day 1 is rather interesting.

 

I'd like a bit of clarification here if possible. I've heard of Town of Salem, but unfamiliar with how it plays. What I mean is, I know "Werewolves" is more of an IRC variation which is played pretty fast. Unsure if Town of Salem is more of a slower paced game or a faster paced game.

 

As for the wagon talk, I agree. Frigid and Iron's votes were only hours apart. In the case of GoldIron, it could just be a newbie not knowing better. Frigid's vote on Canik initially read as a joke vote, but now I'm considering the possibility that it was an early attempt to form a bandwagon.

 

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And to clear up talk about the neighborizer role (since I recall it being asked), it's essentially a build your own mason group. The neighbor starts alone, but over time can build up his neighborhood similar to that of a cult. Whether or not there's restrictions is hard to guess as it's possible it's an X-shot or otherwise limited in power.


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I was away for a while for like 2 days.

 

My defense: I'm a new player, there no reason I can be a scum. I don't even know why people are saying scum instead of mafia.

Lord MK wouldn't just give a new player a difficult role to play.

 

Randomness doesn't care if you're a new player or not. Heck, I was a Serial Killer in my 2nd or 3rd game ever which isn't the easiest role to win with.

 

To answer your question about why people are saying scum over mafia, in this particular game there isn't a difference and can be used interchangeably. But basically boils down to this. If people refer to the mafia, they're referring to a group of scum players. But the mafia is scum. Just as a serial killer would be scum (but woudn't be mafia).


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vgmmaster we have been through this, as slmk has announced scum are forbidden from disclosing the identities of their scum buddies, so you are correct, it is a case of kitkat being kitkat


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I understand it's forbidden. However, I'm not saying I believe Robert / The Warrior to be scum with you. My suspicion lies in the lego / frigid camp right now.


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Yet another hilarious post by kevin

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Yet another hilarious post by kevin

You get townie points for laughing at my humor.

What can the townie points be cashed in for? Is there a gift shop where we can cash in our townie points for Ninok hats and keychains?


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Vote Count:

 

SeaBeeGipson (2): Canik, Robert2424
GoldIron (2): The Warrior, brewersalliance
FrigidInferno (1): vgmmaster
Lachiton (1): KitKat16
KitKat16 (1): lachiton
Canik (1): GoldIron
The Warrior (1): Rafay
legoboyvdlp (0): 
Robert2424 (0): 
Brewersalliance (0):
KevinH (0): 
Vgmmaster (0): 
Rafay (0): 
iSocialism (0): 
 
 
No Lynch (2): KevinH, FrigidInferno
 
Not Voting: iSocialism, legoboyvdlp

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is Wednesday, 27th December at 11 AM, CN Time.


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legoboyvdlp        16
brewersalliance    11
Lord MK               11
KevinH                7
FrigidInferno         7
vgmmaster           7
Kitkat16                6
Canik                    6
Robert2424         5
Lachiton               4
SeaBeeGipson     3
iSocialism             3
The Warrior           3
Rafay                   3
GoldIron              2
 
The ones in yellow needs to pick up their posting up fast.
out of these, i am worried about Rafay as he has been very glitchy with his activity.

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We could always go with the tried and tested strategy of lynching inactives?


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Considering SBG is always scum, that may not be a bad option. :P

That said, not to give the inactives a free pass, but with Christmas being next week, it wouldn't be the most shocking if people were busier than normal in real life this time of year. But having limited forum access, you guys can attest to people's activity better than I can.
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Considering SBG is always scum, that may not be a bad option. :P

That said, not to give the inactives a free pass, but with Christmas being next week, it wouldn't be the most shocking if people were busier than normal in real life this time of year. But having limited forum access, you guys can attest to people's activity better than I can.

 

Fair comment.


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Brain's a bit mush right now as I'm not used to working overnights (which I'm doing all week) so I feel like I'm forgetting something. That said, some of what stands out to me on a first read of what I've missed.

 

oh this has started how incredibly exciting

 

i just thought i'd save you all the bother and announce in advance that i, robert and tw are the scum (sorry to give you away guys)

 

am i messing with you or am i not? or a sort of combination of both? find out next time on d2 of pick your power

 

vote: lachiton for great justice/ omgus

 

Quoting for reference. Inclined to believe this is just Kitkat being Kitkat, but could be doubling down on his joking matter.

 

Wtf?
Hmm... ok...?
Well... only one way to find out and that is

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Though actually, seeing we have power roles, should we potentially lynch town? Is he lying or not?
Or do we lymch him anyway and investigate Kitkat? Hard to figure out.
I reccomend leaving kitkat to day 2 to see if his info is correct and what information he actually has

 

Something about the Kitkat shenanigans leaves a bad taste in my mouth. First of all, what possible information can Kitkat have that's worth keeping alive to day 2 for? If he's scum, it's one hell of a risk sacrificing a scum partner like that. If Robert (or The Warrior) is town, it proves nothing with any knowledge Kitkat has or doesn't have. The only info he would have right now is who his scum buddies are (and in effect who the town is) if Kitkat is scum.

 

Also in the Kitkat camp:

 

It would really suck if we didnt have a cop though, re-reading through the roles it sounds semi powerful compared to others such as 1-night vig or Neighborizer(which, btw, sounds a lot like a role-blocker to me). Hopefully someone chose it so we can have a little more umphh.

Canik sounds too much like trump(who btw was/is possibly facing impeachment charges, cant remember if their still going on) so I still say we need to be rid of him ;)

 

 

Wtf?
Hmm... ok...?
Well... only one way to find out and that is
 

Why would you vote Robert when KitKat was the one who said it?
If KitKat said it, hoping you'd lynch him as he mentioned two townies, so we'd follow suit and lynch them both, why would we start with Robert?
Why would recommend leaving KitKat to Day 2? Are you insinuating the cop should investigate KitKat? That requires 1 - no one to block the cops ability or no roles to alter KitKat's results, and 2) us to have a cop.
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I fail to see your logic here
 
 
 
I chose Robert randomly from between The Warrior and Robert. I believed it was best to leave Kitkat alone to see a) what information he is alluding to on day 2 and B) if he is lying or not, depending on what investigative roles there are in the game. It will be clear if his information regarding Robert proves to be false. On the other hand, an investigative role could also investigate the named people tonight, but that also depends on exactly those points which you mentioned. Just so you know, those sunglasses were meant to be b ), but B) turns out to be short for the sunglasses emoticon. I can't edit it to fix it. 

I also believe that kitkat should be investigated night 2, considering the fact that if kit IS mafia, kit might be making a bluff to get rid of two non-mafia. So if someone investigates the others and finds them inno, we can move on to other sus rather than lynching them. Not sure if what I said makes sense but imo the warrior and robert are now the last on my sus list.
I'll try to sum it up: Kit comes out as mafia, it turns out kit IS actually mafia, so now we are desperate to lynch/kill tw and robert, who, for all we know, could be the more powerful townies or at the other end of the spectrucm, a fruit vendor and a neighborizer.

Then theres the other side where tw and robert ARE mafia, but we think kit is bluffing so we do nothing at all.
Im just putting this out here

 

 

I'm not outright saying that all three of these people are mafia, but this whole exchange with Lego / Frigid / Kitkat is rubbing me the wrong way. Both Frigid and Lego are saying it's best to not do anything to Kitkat until day two? But why? I happened to notice mention that Frigid has played a lot of Town of Salem which could lead to him possibly doing a risky maneuver. Considering the scum can talk during the day, we can't rule out some sort of collaboration attempt.

 

Can't help but wonder if it's a sacrificial move of some kind. Maybe the scum all out themselves right away (intentionally or not) and hope to lost heat in a reverse psychology way of thinking.

 

tbf the two on the wagon are first time players, though Inferno or whatever he calls himself is an experienced Town of Salem player apparently. But a wagon forming 2/3 days into day 1 is rather interesting.

 

I'd like a bit of clarification here if possible. I've heard of Town of Salem, but unfamiliar with how it plays. What I mean is, I know "Werewolves" is more of an IRC variation which is played pretty fast. Unsure if Town of Salem is more of a slower paced game or a faster paced game.

 

As for the wagon talk, I agree. Frigid and Iron's votes were only hours apart. In the case of GoldIron, it could just be a newbie not knowing better. Frigid's vote on Canik initially read as a joke vote, but now I'm considering the possibility that it was an early attempt to form a bandwagon.

 

Unvote

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And to clear up talk about the neighborizer role (since I recall it being asked), it's essentially a build your own mason group. The neighbor starts alone, but over time can build up his neighborhood similar to that of a cult. Whether or not there's restrictions is hard to guess as it's possible it's an X-shot or otherwise limited in power.

I underlined the part im addressing. First of all, i must say, you make interesting theories. Secondly, your very good at spotting suspicious activity, so kudos. Thirdly, im pretty sure that theory is false. im not sure about kitkat or goldiron, but i know im not scum  /ooc(thankfully, you'd all be dead by now)/ooc

 

Also worth mentioning: Thank you for clearing up the neighborizer role for me, it sounded difficult to understand until you explained it that way. The vote on canik really was a joke vote, as i currently hate trump for reasons i'll keep. Town of salem literally lasts anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour if mafia plays its cards right. thats all i gotta say, im tired af and need sleep.


/ooc

Btw VG, You can ask Snoke/Brewers over in the town of discord if i play risky, his answer should be a resounding no lmao

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Considering the scum can talk during the day, we can't rule out some sort of collaboration attempt.


​Who remembers that scum can talk during the day? Scum, that's who. :P

​But you did post a lot and could just be a town who really wants to win. So I won't bother you more about it.. for now. :)

​I hope GoldIron posts more soon. It doesn't have to be real in-depth analysis or anything but let us know you'll be decently active. Otherwise it is very tempting to lynch him and just see.
 

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Mafia day talk has been more of a TW moderated game thing. Not fully ruling it out, but o don't see where MK has hint at day talk for scum.
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