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[brewersalliance]

How am i supposed to know that you were not guessing it yourself?

 

 

lmfao is this a serious comment? 

[Rhizoctonia]

Due to the forum being down, day 3 will be extended 5 days. Deadline is now 1:00pm on Wednesday, May 9th.

Vote Count

Rafay (6): Darkfox, Brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Colonel Medved, Atliis, Lord MK

Brewersalliance (1): Rafay

Ali bin Turban (0):

Atliis (0):

Colonel Medved (0):

Darkfox (0):

Jazzy95 (0):

KevinH (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Lachiton (0):

Lord MK (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Samus (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Yehom (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: Ali bin Turban, Jazzy95, KevinH, Kitkat16, Lachiton, Mandarijn, Rhizoctonia, Samus, Yehom

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch or 5 at deadline.
Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Wednesday, May 9th.

Currently in danger of mod-kill:

If you knew he wasn't scum MK, why did you vote him? You keep running around saying you knew he wasn't yet you had a vote on him. You literally make no sense

[brewersalliance]

MK is acting so erratic its almost like he is trying to get lynched.  I am starting to get a Jester vibe from him.  Its like he is intentionally trying to contradict himself and appear as scummy as possible

[Rhizoctonia]

I didn't get the vote count yet, so I am not to blame.
Till TW posts the vote count and i see there is a chance of ending the day with my vote, I will be keeping my vote where it is now.
I am definitely not going to count the votes, if you are going to suggest that.

If it's a given that he is going to be lynched, then what problem is my vote going to do?
And unless someone is going to bring something up, I don't see any reason to drag this day forward.

 

 

MK, you were also looking to push to end the day early.  You had no problem voting Rafay and ending it.  For someone who now claims that he knew he wasn't scum, it makes zero sense for you to vote on him.  You can't come on after he is found to be town and start acting as if you knew all along, because your actions say differently.  But please continue to shoot yourself in the foot

[SeaBeeGipson]

Let's just say that i have a PR. I am not going to reveal it as i don't want scum to know which one it is. So far i have been successful, so don't want anyone to circumvent my powers.

 

In other terms, I have a PR, don't lynch me; but you won't know what my PR is. If you state you have a PR, the target is already on your back. 

Vote Count   Rafay (9): Darkfox, Brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Colonel Medved, Atliis, KevinH, Mandarijn, Lachiton, Rhizoctonia    

At least 1 scum is in here, and at least 1 scum isn't. Scum usually distance themselves. MK is already taking the heat (rightfully so), but we need to start looking at all avenues.

If I'm correct, the names are listed in order of their votes. 5 was the deadline vote (Atliis) and 9 the hammer (Rhizo). I don't blame Rhizo for hammering as I was nearly positive Rafay was scum, but putting yourself right at the deadline vote? That would be where I'd want to sit as a scum. In the middle, still ensuring a lynch of a townie, and again, if the order is correct, that leaves Atliis as the deadline vote.

Vote: Atliis

[The Warrior]

 

@The Warrior- Can there be two of a role?

It is possible.

 

 

Vote Count

 

Lord MK (3): Brewersalliance, Darkfox, Canik v.2

Atliis (1): SeaBeeGipson

Brewersalliance (1): Lord MK

Ali bin Turban (0):  

Canik v.2 (Samus) (0):

Colonel Medved (0):

Darkfox (0):

Jazzy95 (0):

KevinH (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Lachiton (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Ali bin Turban, Atliis, Colonel Medved, Jazzy95, KevinH, Kitkat16, Lachiton, Mandarijn, Rafay, Rhizoctonia, Yehom

 

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Thursday, May 24th.

 

Currently in danger of mod-kill:

[Lord MK]

Come on, one more.

Let's do this.

[brewersalliance]

Come on, one more.

Let's do this.

well...

 

that was much larger than expected lol

[Lord MK]

"If you state you have a PR, the target is already on your back"

It is.
But 1) i am not surviving this day (hopefully)
2) i don't think that if i do survive, that scum will ever have any chance of killing me.(this one is tough to explain without revealing too much.)

Come on, one more.

Let's do this.

well...

that was much larger than expected lol

For your consideration, i am not the jester. This i can promise.

[brewersalliance]

But 1) i am not surviving this day (hopefully) 2) i don't think that if i do survive, that scum will ever have any chance of killing me.(this one is tough to explain without revealing too much.)

 

 

so you want to be lynched and you are not a jester?  but then if u survive scum cant kill you?  i read through all the roles and i am seriously drawing a blank to what kind of role can have that strange combo.  the only thing i can think of at the moment is youre a jack of all trades that has some sort of cop/vengeful/bulletproof combo, and u know a scum from the cop, and one of the scum is on you, and if lynched u will target them, and if u live you will use the bulletproof ability.  

 

however, it sounds even more insane now that I wrote that down lol

[Lachiton]

I agree with the sentiments expressed that MK is intentionally acting scummy to get himself lynched. So there can be two possibilities - either he is a jester or he is scum who can take out a townie with him if he is lynched ( supersaint or something). At this point he is definitely lying about having a useful PR. According to me, he is 70% scum with a PR to kill a townie with his lynch. The other 30% probability he is town, then he is definitely jester.

 

Also Seabee already started poking on the people who were on Rafay's wagon, I am more interested in those who were not part of it.

Not Voting: Ali bin Turban, Canik v.2, Jazzy95, Kitkat16, Yehom

 

Canik joined in the last moment so he gets a pass from me for now.

Jazzy talked about his confusion about Rafay being scum so I give him benefit of doubt.

Kitkat already explained his reason for not voting, though he too was convinced Rafay was scum. It can be a convenient excuse to stay out of the wagon and spotlight for a scum who knew that a townie is getting lynched, but at this moment I am inclined to believe his reasons.

 

So that leaves AbT and Yehom, who were the most vocal critic of Rafay the day earlier, didnt believe him one bit about his jailor story on D3, yet didnt bother to place their vote on them. Care to explain why you chose to stay out of the wagon?

[brewersalliance]

I agree with the sentiments expressed that MK is intentionally acting scummy to get himself lynched. So there can be two possibilities - either he is a jester or he is scum who can take out a townie with him if he is lynched ( supersaint or something). At this point he is definitely lying about having a useful PR. According to me, he is 70% scum with a PR to kill a townie with his lynch.

 

 

yeah but with only two town dead so far (wow thats kind of crazy) this doesnt seem like a solid strategy to me.  why would the scum be willing to suicide one of their members for just one townie when it would probably kill 25% of the scum team, and put them in a bigger hole?   i dont know, it just does not make much sense to me.   to me its similar to the same reason why it would have made almost no sense for me to be scum with my call out of rafay

[Lachiton]

 

I agree with the sentiments expressed that MK is intentionally acting scummy to get himself lynched. So there can be two possibilities - either he is a jester or he is scum who can take out a townie with him if he is lynched ( supersaint or something). At this point he is definitely lying about having a useful PR. According to me, he is 70% scum with a PR to kill a townie with his lynch.

 

 

yeah but with only two town dead so far (wow thats kind of crazy) this doesnt seem like a solid strategy to me.  why would the scum be willing to suicide one of their members for just one townie when it would probably kill 25% of the scum team, and put them in a bigger hole?   i dont know, it just does not make much sense to me.   to me its similar to the same reason why it would have made almost no sense for me to be scum with my call out of rafay

 

 

True, for scum its a very risky proposition. MK does play a bit scummy probably to fly under the radar of scum but here he is acting all over the place. It sounds like as if he is actually baiting town to lynch him. As for you, I have other reasons to believe you're town but I will come back to that later.

 

As I said I am more interested on those who stayed out of the wagon. I am 100% sure at least 1-2 scum were there on the no voting category.

[brewersalliance]

 

I agree with the sentiments expressed that MK is intentionally acting scummy to get himself lynched. So there can be two possibilities - either he is a jester or he is scum who can take out a townie with him if he is lynched ( supersaint or something). At this point he is definitely lying about having a useful PR. According to me, he is 70% scum with a PR to kill a townie with his lynch.

 
 
yeah but with only two town dead so far (wow thats kind of crazy) this doesnt seem like a solid strategy to me.  why would the scum be willing to suicide one of their members for just one townie when it would probably kill 25% of the scum team, and put them in a bigger hole?   i dont know, it just does not make much sense to me.   to me its similar to the same reason why it would have made almost no sense for me to be scum with my call out of rafay
 

 
True, for scum its a very risky proposition. MK does play a bit scummy probably to fly under the radar of scum but here he is acting all over the place. It sounds like as if he is actually baiting town to lynch him. As for you, I have other reasons to believe you're town but I will come back to that later.
 
As I said I am more interested on those who stayed out of the wagon. I am 100% sure at least 1-2 scum were there on the no voting category.

No need to tell why you think I'm town, especially if it involves a PR. I don't think I'm in any danger of being lynched and the moment and therefore no reason to give scum info they don't need to have
And I agree, there has to be scum off the wagon. I will read through all of them later and give my thoughts on who it might be though I'm leaning towards one of the people who said Rafay was scum but didn't vote him, especially if they had voted on him d2 as well

[Ali bin Turban]

It is. But 1) i am not surviving this day (hopefully) 2) i don't think that if i do survive, that scum will ever have any chance of killing me.(this one is tough to explain without revealing too much.)

 

So you say scum won't be able to get you and still you don't want to share information? Then what are you afraid of?

 

The Warrior, on 09 May 2018 - 20:15, said: Not Voting: Ali bin Turban, Canik v.2, Jazzy95, Kitkat16, Yehom

 

Canik joined in the last moment so he gets a pass from me for now.

Jazzy talked about his confusion about Rafay being scum so I give him benefit of doubt.

Kitkat already explained his reason for not voting, though he too was convinced Rafay was scum. It can be a convenient excuse to stay out of the wagon and spotlight for a scum who knew that a townie is getting lynched, but at this moment I am inclined to believe his reasons.

So that leaves AbT and Yehom, who were the most vocal critic of Rafay the day earlier, didnt believe him one bit about his jailor story on D3, yet didnt bother to place their vote on them. Care to explain why you chose to stay out of the wagon?

You tell me what positive outcome would I achieve by jumping on the wagon with other pilling on? FYI my reasoning is here  I'm wondering what are you trying to archieve with that, when its obvious that Rafays wagon is useless for analysis?

 

And it's useless since everyone (but DarkFox) jumped on him after it was clear he's lying. It was perfectly valid for the town to vote on him since he was a liar and at the same time it was perfectly valid for the scum to vote him since he was town. Therefore both parties are undistinguishable.

[Yehom]

So that leaves AbT and Yehom, who were the most vocal critic of Rafay the day earlier, didnt believe him one bit about his jailor story on D3, yet didnt bother to place their vote on them. Care to explain why you chose to stay out of the wagon?

 

If you read what I said at the start of the day, you'd know why I chose to not vote for Rafay. He was already on enough votes when I commented so voting for him at that moment in time would mean he would be closer to being lynch immediately, so to keep the day from closing I chose to not vote for Rafay. I fully believed that he was scum at the time seeing how be behaved, how he reacted to other people and how he lied to everybody for absolutely no reason at all.

 

As of right now I'm really suspicious of MK. Like I said during D3 he's pulling a complete 180. From the first person to 'call Rafay out as usual' during D2 (including a vote) to claiming that he always knew that Rafay was town which is why he didn't vote him D3. Sounds to me like scum bandwagoning during D2 trying to get him killed and seeing as Rafay dug his hole big enough, he didn't need to be on the Rafay wagon D3 so he could claim, like he's doing now, that Rafay wasn't scum to score some townie points. Almost everybody thought that Rafay was scum, the only people that know he wasn't for certain are very likely to be scum. 

[Mandarijn]

"If you state you have a PR, the target is already on your back"

It is.
But 1) i am not surviving this day (hopefully)
2) i don't think that if i do survive, that scum will ever have any chance of killing me.(this one is tough to explain without revealing too much.)

Come on, one more.

Let's do this.

well...

that was much larger than expected lol

For your consideration, i am not the jester. This i can promise.

If you’re not going to survive this day, why don’t you share all your information with us? Because this will be your last chance to do so...

I’m especially curious to hear how you knew for certain that Rafay wasn’t scum if you 1st wanted him lynched after N2, but then in the middle of D3 suddenly changed your mind..?

[KevinH]

I was actually all prepared to make a case against Brewersalliance if Rafay did flip scum.

It seemed like a well-orchestrated ploy by 2 scum where one sacrifices himself and the other gets total town cred for calling him out.

Rafay didn't seem to even try to defend himself so it looked to me like it was a big charade.

 

But nooooo.....

 

Brewersalliance indeed was correct that Rafay wasn't the jailkeeper.  He gets townie points in my book but still not 100% confirmed.

Both scum and townies had valid reasons for lynching Rafay so there isn't too much to be gained from analyzing the wagon.

 

If Lord MK knew he was town when he unvoted, he certainly didn't try to get anyone else to unvote. He said he's not the jester which is exactly what the jester would say.

 

But let's get back to basics.  When a townie is lynched, you suspect those that voted to lynch.  Unfortunately in this case, every vote after Brewersalliance can be discounted.  There was one vote before then.

 

Vote: Darkfox

[Canik]

But let's get back to basics. When a townie is lynched, you suspect those that voted to lynch. Unfortunately in this case, every vote after Brewersalliance can be discounted. There was one vote before then. Vote: Darkfox

Ha! Funny that now voting before Brewers might be used to condemn him when before, assuming Rafay would flip scum, Darkfox was considered to be probably town for the same reason. xD

He is high on my list but there's a big gap between MK and everyone else.

@MK - What do you mean you can't explain it? Just tell us why you thought Rafay was town.. are you saying it was just a hunch? 
 

[Lord MK]

"So you say scum won't be able to get you and still you don't want to share information? Then what are you afraid of?"

You know that they say if someone claims tracker, use your Ninja.
If someone claims cop, roleblock him.
If someone claims doc, use your strongman.

So if i share it with you, i may not be killed, but it does mean that i will be as good as a vanilla townie from now. Especially with all the X-Shots.