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[Rhizoctonia]

Well this got interesting, though not sure why this was withheld for so long, that is a bit odd and alarming.  It seems, maybe I was right on the initial push of AbT back then.  

That being said, like to hear who else Lach investigated.  No point and simply naming the scum and not possibly town you found if you die tonight.  Also, at this point, i want a full RC, name as well.  No one seems to have given names.

Honestly tired of this whole, if we kill AbT we kill a town again.  If ABT is scum and was hit by the nympho, he still needs lynched one way or the other so it has to happen eventually. 

 

If AbT is a miller or a wrong place at wrong time, he played stupid and a mislynch falls directly at the fault of AbT.  Millers and wrong place at wrong time should RC first thing, Canik didn't last game and many called him out for not doing so.  

 

I'm taking note of Brewers, he seems suddenly quite defensive for AbT.  He wants to keep bringing up Miller or wrong place at wrong time when if AbT is that, he should of already RC'd.  You don't after you been investigated.  There should be no possible scenario that Brewers brings up, because a miller should have RC'd already, but Brewers is suddenly trying to form some possible frame scenario on AbT by scum using a possible Role cop.
 

I have to read back, but if Lach did indeed ask if there were any millers or wrong place at wrong time roles, then I believe him even more.  This would be a very smart move of a cop if you got an investigated role that came back scum and you wanted to allow any millers or such to RC before you did.  Maybe a miller comes forward that was the person in question and instead of RCing a guilty result on a now RC'd miller, you hold off and wait and not expose yourself and do another cop investigation the next night.  The fact he did this makes Lach way more believable in my eyes, whereas Brewers seems to think exact opposite.

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I'm waiting to here all results from Lach, and see if AbT has a defense and what it is.  I am more keen on lynching a cop discovered scum then MK who is likely.  Waiting to see both responses to make my decision if I'm voting AbT or MK. 

I will answer all your questions before the day winds up. I am waiting for AbT's defense. I am a dead man walking at this point so I wont be leaving you guys hanging. Do watch out for anyone trying to end the day before deadline though. MK is already up for lynch and I believe still the right one for today, but AbT can be the one for tomorrow.

 

You posted this before I posted mine.  This is not doing you any favors.  You waited this long to suddenly RC with hardly no time left, now you're waiting to reveal even longer in the day?  Like you said, your dead man walking so you now trying to wait to reveal is not gaining you any believing points with me.  

[brewersalliance]

oh im not saying I think Lachiton is lying.  At the moment I still think its more likely than not he is telling the truth.  I was just presenting that as a possible scenario.  I was getting yelled at by my boss so i quick hit post before finishing my thoughts lol  

I will answer all your questions before the day winds up. I am waiting for AbT's defense. I am a dead man walking at this point so I wont be leaving you guys hanging. Do watch out for anyone trying to end the day before deadline though. MK is already up for lynch and I believe still the right one for today, but AbT can be the one for tomorrow.

why the delay?  if you think you are going to die, just tell us everything.  pushing it back to the last min makes it seem like you are trying to hide something.

[Lachiton]

You posted this before I posted mine.  This is not doing you any favors.  You waited this long to suddenly RC with hardly no time left, now you're waiting to reveal even longer in the day?  Like you said, your dead man walking so you now trying to wait to reveal is not gaining you any believing points with me.  

 

why the delay?  if you think you are going to die, just tell us everything.  pushing it back to the last min makes it seem like you are trying to hide something.

I am just waiting for AbT to makes his defense. I will reveal everything then. I have made it clear that I still think MK is the right lynch for today. And I would have revealed this info at the start of the day itself had it not been MK making some absurd posts and putting himself in line for lynch.  I planned on revealing in the middle of the day but I mistakenly thought the deadline is much farther than it actually was.

[brewersalliance]

 

You posted this before I posted mine.  This is not doing you any favors.  You waited this long to suddenly RC with hardly no time left, now you're waiting to reveal even longer in the day?  Like you said, your dead man walking so you now trying to wait to reveal is not gaining you any believing points with me.  

 

 

 

why the delay?  if you think you are going to die, just tell us everything.  pushing it back to the last min makes it seem like you are trying to hide something.

I am just waiting for AbT to makes his defense. I will reveal everything then. I have made it clear that I still think MK is the right lynch for today. And I would have revealed this info at the start of the day itself had it not been MK making some absurd posts and putting himself in line for lynch.  I planned on revealing in the middle of the day but I mistakenly thought the deadline is much farther than it actually was.

 

there is maybe 24 hours to the deadline?  I still think u should tell us everything you can.  If you die tonight, that gives us barely any time to dissect anything, and if ABT is scum, he might just wait to post anything to limit what you might be able to share.  i think waiting only hurts the town.

[Rhizoctonia]

oh im not saying I think Lachiton is lying. At the moment I still think its more likely than not he is telling the truth. I was just presenting that as a possible scenario. I was getting yelled at by my boss so i quick hit post before finishing my thoughts lol

I will answer all your questions before the day winds up. I am waiting for AbT's defense. I am a dead man walking at this point so I wont be leaving you guys hanging. Do watch out for anyone trying to end the day before deadline though. MK is already up for lynch and I believe still the right one for today, but AbT can be the one for tomorrow.

why the delay? if you think you are going to die, just tell us everything. pushing it back to the last min makes it seem like you are trying to hide something.

I can understand the quickness, as I wrote up mine as fast as I could on a 30 minute lunch. Given the short time frame we have now, wanted to get it in before 4+ hours from now when I am at home and could reply.

That being said, if AbT tries to use Miller or Wrong place and wrong time, again I believe that should of been told D1. I will have a hard time believing such a RC in now D4, after being caught.

And yes, I don't know the hesitation. I don't know why the long hesitstion all day to not come forward..but the more Lach tries to wait til end of the day less I trust him. He should be making amends by spilling all now for him delaying this reveal as he did
Saying MK is the right Lynch when you claim to say AbT came up guilty makes 0 sense. A confirmed is always better then a assumed.

[SeaBeeGipson]

My other concern is that IF Lach is lying, this could be a ploy to get the alleged cupid/nympho to claim and get two townies for the price of 1 scum. Beyond that, lynching MK first? Why, so you can get another potential townie down for the price of 1 scum head, or because if MK is scum, you know he's getting lynched. So, if you are on a scum wagon, if doesn't seem far fetched to get townie points and claim something altered your investigation.

There hasn't been a cop to counter-claim, and there hasn't been one killed to my knowledge. I highly doubt we'd have a game without a cop. I'm inclined to believe you solely because of this, but I wanted my suspicions noted above.

I don't agree MK should be lynched over AbT. If we are sure we found scum, we need to lynch them. Not play a waiting game and potentially lynch another townie. Plus it gives TW more time to find a replacement if MK wants to throw the game. 

Just be aware, if AbT is scum, has been hit with a nympho, and is attached to a townie, we would be losing a townie tonight. But if AbT is scum, it is a lost I'm willing to take. Nympho is essentially a VT at this point.

As Rhizo stated, we'd have to take that hit on the attached townie dying anyhow.

[brewersalliance]

My other concern is that IF Lach is lying, this could be a ploy to get the alleged cupid/nympho to claim and get two townies for the price of 1 scum. Beyond that, lynching MK first? Why, so you can get another potential townie down for the price of 1 scum head, or because if MK is scum, you know he's getting lynched. So, if you are on a scum wagon, if doesn't seem far fetched to get townie points and claim something altered your investigation.

 

 

that was my concern.  and if lach is lying and we do indeed lynch MK today, lachiton wont die for at least another two days, and by that point it would be only 6 town left and 3 scum left.  I think this is a potential scenario where scum lying (even though it would be obvious they are scum and would for sure die) would still make sense.  Plus lachiton has waited so long to reveal it.  Its almost certain that MK will be lynched, and there is barely enough time to discuss this.  plus he is not actually sharing any additional info.  add that to lachiton saying MK should still be the lynch today, even tho he claims to have found scum is just a red flag to me.    Plus Lachiton has said multiple times he does think MK is the more likely the Jester, so why would he rather lynch a Jester over confirmed scum?  it just feels like one giant red flag and the more and more I think about it, the harder it is becoming to believe it.  

lachiton needs to come out with a FULL role call and all the details of every single night.  there is no reason for him to keep waiting, unless of course he is scum

we are way to close to the deadline 

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[atliis]

Unvote mk
Vote lachiton he just claimed my role just confirmed for me he is scum.

[brewersalliance]

Okay, now we have a counterclaim to cop.  We need both Atliis and Lachiton to full role claim.  Character name, actual roles, and what they did every single night

Is it possible for town to have two cops?  that seems very unlikely, and a bit OP

[atliis]

I am claiming You are Blastoise, a town Skullbash-er (Cop).

[SeaBeeGipson]

I am claiming You are Blastoise, a town Skullbash-er (Cop).

Well, it's believable since he has been mentioning a claim throughout the game without claiming.

Didn't occur to me, Lach's claim would not only force the nympho or cupid to come out, but the cop as well. Plus getting rid of MK? Scum would practically have the path to victory set.

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With how close it is to deadline, it seems good for a fake claim now as it is hard to react and get a response from everyone.

I'd love to hear from Lach and still AbT on this matter, but if we're forced to make a decision without all the answers, town needs a clear response on who we lynch, otherwise we end the day with split votes everywhere and no one getting lynched

[brewersalliance]

Lahciton has been lurking for quite some time without actually posting anything. I've seen his name at the bottom on and off for around the past three hours

[Lachiton]

You guys just jumped on conclusions for no reason. Did I at any point of time claim I am traditional cop? I said I found AbT guilty. What I meant is that I posted cop power, but 1 shot. What was so urgent that you couldn't wait for AbT to post at least? IF he didnt post in another couple of hours I would have revealed all that I know. I just asked for a bit of time. 

 

I hoped the cop was smart enough to not counter claim. So either atlis is actual cop or he is scum who knows AbT is miller. And @atlis if you were the cop how did you know Rafay was not jailor? Did you find a guilty investigation on him? If so then MK is totally lying. 

There's one more reason I felt MK is lying, apart from his contradictory posts. He claimed JOAT, with tracker, cop and bulletproof. If he is not lying, that means two JOATs.

I am Ditto, a town Transform-er (Jack-of-All-Trades). I have 1 shot cop, doctor and roleblocker.

Heres the summary of each night.

N1 - Did nothing.

N2 - Investigated AbT, found him guilty.

N3 - Used my doctor shot to protect brewers. If scum targeted brewers, I might have stopped the kill. That is why I was saying brewers feels town to me.

 

I didnt go after AbT on D3 because it looked like Rafay was certain scum. I still urged miller to claim and hoped if AbT is town, he will take the hint and claim. I cant understand why he didnt claim right away as he had already put himself in the line of suspicion. I did take some risk by not coming forward as I could have been night killed, but thought my doctor powers were needed at night, so I withheld.

This day I tried to get more out of AbT but MK was hogging the limelight. And in addition he claimed JOAT and with his nonsensical stories around how he used his power, I was more or less certain that he is scum or jester. But this time with all the talk about how I am seen as more townish, I decided to come forth with the reveal as I might not survive the night and cant share the info.

[Canik]

@Atliis - who have you investigated? and what results did you get?

[Lachiton]

Lahciton has been lurking for quite some time without actually posting anything. I've seen his name at the bottom on and off for around the past three hours

I was waiting for AbT to post, so I was lurking. But with this unnecessary cop counter claim, even when I never actually claimed cop, I had to reveal everything before I could analyze AbT's defense. This is a important lesson to everyone, if someone has not fully claim, you dont counterclaim, no matter whoever tries to push for it. There are other roles too with cop power, more so when I said I will full claim. I dont understand the rush to try to prove me wrong, when the accused had yet to mount his defense.

[brewersalliance]

You guys just jumped on conclusions for no reason. Did I at any point of time claim I am traditional cop? I said I found AbT guilty. What I meant is that I posted cop power, but 1 shot. What was so urgent that you couldn't wait for AbT to post at least? IF he didnt post in another couple of hours I would have revealed all that I know. I just asked for a bit of time.    I hoped the cop was smart enough to not counter claim. So either atlis is actual cop or he is scum who knows AbT is miller. And @atlis if you were the cop how did you know Rafay was not jailor? Did you find a guilty investigation on him? If so then MK is totally lying. 

 

you refusing to comment anything is exactly why this happened, which if you are scum could have been exactly what you are going for

[Rhizoctonia]

I am claiming You are Blastoise, a town Skullbash-er (Cop).

 

 

Well now the cat's out of the bag of 2 roles.  At least tell us your night investigations because you're about to be lynched

killed, not lynched*

[brewersalliance]

It's pretty convenient for you to ignore multiple requests for information only then to give the information AFTER it's already drawn out the cop and then you claim jack of all trades, thus safely avoiding the cops counter claim. The timing of your actions put us in a bind which in turn you then refused to make any information know, which lead to the actual cop coming out and making a claim. Those are a hell of a lot of red flags .

Plus it's the last day so all you have to do is make it a few hours of ABT not logging in and he can't even offer a defense.

[Lachiton]

 

You guys just jumped on conclusions for no reason. Did I at any point of time claim I am traditional cop? I said I found AbT guilty. What I meant is that I posted cop power, but 1 shot. What was so urgent that you couldn't wait for AbT to post at least? IF he didnt post in another couple of hours I would have revealed all that I know. I just asked for a bit of time.    I hoped the cop was smart enough to not counter claim. So either atlis is actual cop or he is scum who knows AbT is miller. And @atlis if you were the cop how did you know Rafay was not jailor? Did you find a guilty investigation on him? If so then MK is totally lying. 

 

you refusing to comment anything is exactly why this happened, which if you are scum could have been exactly what you are going for

 

When did I say I refuse to comment? I said I want to wait for AbT to reply. If he doesn't I will reveal all that I know. Do you really think I will play this game out of no where if I was scum? I was by all accounts considered town at this point by most. 

[The Warrior]

Squirtle is a water type Pokémon. It evolves into Wartortle starting at level 16, which evolves into Blastoise starting at level 36. After birth, its back swells and hardens into a shell. Powerfully sprays foam from its mouth.

 

 

Vote Count

 

Lord MK (3): Darkfox, Canik v.2, KevinH

Lachiton (1): Atliis

Brewersalliance (1): Lord MK

Ali bin Turban (0):

Atliis (0): 

Canik v.2 (Samus) (0):

Colonel Medved (0):

Darkfox (0):

Jazzy95 (0):

KevinH (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Ali bin Turban, Brewersalliance, Colonel Medved, Jazzy95, Kitkat16, Lachiton, Mandarijn, Rafay, Rhizoctonia, SeaBeeGipson, Yehom

 

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Thursday, May 24th.

 

Currently in danger of mod-kill: Jazzy95 (2 posts today, 12 overall)