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[TW-07] Pokemon Mafia - Town Wins

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here are my guesses on the break down

town:  Me, Rhizo, Dark Fox, Col Medved, ABT, SBG

Potential Scum:  Mandy, Yehom, Jazzy, Kitkat, KevinH, Lachiton

 

 

Mandy has been trying to get me to role call for 2+ days now and keeps trying to get me to spill the beans on what I do or do not know.  Keeping my vote on Mandy 

How the hell am I potential scum and Col Medved town? I am JOAT and theres no counter claim for that, so I believe I am the only one. And I have repeatedly explained what I had done with my powers. 




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and im guessing one of our scum is Rhyhorn 


 

here are my guesses on the break down

town:  Me, Rhizo, Dark Fox, Col Medved, ABT, SBG

Potential Scum:  Mandy, Yehom, Jazzy, Kitkat, KevinH, Lachiton

 

 

Mandy has been trying to get me to role call for 2+ days now and keeps trying to get me to spill the beans on what I do or do not know.  Keeping my vote on Mandy 

How the hell am I potential scum and Col Medved town? I am JOAT and theres no counter claim for that, so I believe I am the only one. And I have repeatedly explained what I had done with my powers. 

 

because I still dont 100% trust your claim from the previous day.   


but out of the potential scum i listed you are the least likely of my suspects  so i think the other 5 have a better chance of being scum than you 



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and im guessing one of our scum is Rhyhorn 


 

here are my guesses on the break down

town:  Me, Rhizo, Dark Fox, Col Medved, ABT, SBG

Potential Scum:  Mandy, Yehom, Jazzy, Kitkat, KevinH, Lachiton

 

 

Mandy has been trying to get me to role call for 2+ days now and keeps trying to get me to spill the beans on what I do or do not know.  Keeping my vote on Mandy 

How the hell am I potential scum and Col Medved town? I am JOAT and theres no counter claim for that, so I believe I am the only one. And I have repeatedly explained what I had done with my powers. 

 

because I still dont 100% trust your claim from the previous day.   

What is not there to trust? I believe I have explained everything that was needed, with a full RC and name. If you still doubt me you're just not going in the right direction. Also you're yet to explain how Col Medved is town in your eyes. I can still get why you've put Rhizo in the town category but what Medved had done recently that screams town to you?

 

Please be mindful that we have not got even one scum lynched. At this rate we will lose badly.




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and im guessing one of our scum is Rhyhorn

That’s awfully specific. Would you mind explaining yourself on this point, because unless I’m missing something I don’t see what you’re basing that on. Does this come from a night action or from Pokémon lore?

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and im guessing one of our scum is Rhyhorn

That’s awfully specific. Would you mind explaining yourself on this point, because unless I’m missing something I don’t see what you’re basing that on. Does this come from a night action or from Pokémon lore?

 

Rhyhorn killed blastoise in the flavor text


are you rhyhorn and scum and curious how i pulled that out of my ass? lol 


Ash continued down the street until he reached the PokeMart. He walked inside and had the clerk refill his potion bag. Ash handed the clerk several bills folded in half and thanked him before he turned and left the store.

 

Ash decided to cut through a nearby park on his way back to check on Charizard. As he walked along the path he could hear some shouting up ahead of him around the bend. Ash turned the corner and saw a 2v2 battle in progress so he stopped for a minute to watch. A Venusaur and Rhyhorn stood about 25 feet away from but facing a Blastoise and Hitmonchan.

 

"Venusaur, vine whip now!"

 

Vines shot out of the giant plant on Venusaur's back and whipped toward the Blastoise.

 

"Blastoise, withdraw!"

 

Blastoise ducked into his massive shell right before Venusaur's vines glanced off it's back.

 

"Rhyhorn, take down now!"

 

Rhyhorn charged at Blastoise and hit him as soon as he had re-emerged from his shell. The force of the collision between Rhyhorn and Blastoise rattled the ground as though a small tremor in the earth had just occurred.

 

Blastoise was knocked backward into a nearby tree and fell to the ground.

 

After the battle had concluded Ash hurried back to the Pokémon Center. Nurse Joy rushed over to him as the door opened. "Follow me quickly!" she said as she waved for Ash to follow her. "There's been an incident with Charizard!"

 

Ash hurried after her into the back of the center. The observation room appeared as though a fire had engulfed half of it. "What happened here?" Ash asked.

 

We were running some tests on your Charizard and it must not have liked them. Charizard started thrashing around all of a sudden and giant flames shot out of its mouth. One of the fireballs landed a direct hit on a Snorlax that we were observing and caused severe burns. We had to send the poor Snorlax to the burn unit at the Saffron City PokeCenter.

 

Atliis (Blastoise), a town Skull-Basher (Macho Cop), has been knocked out on night 4.

Canik v.2 (Snorlax), a town Rest-er (Ascetic), has been badly burned on night 4.

 

 

It is now day 5.

 

Vote Count

 

Ali bin Turban (0):

Brewersalliance (0):

Colonel Medved (0):

Darkfox (0):

Jazzy95 (0):

KevinH (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Lachiton (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Ali bin Turban, Brewersalliance, Colonel Medved, Darkfox, Jazzy95, KevinH, Kitkat16, Lachiton, Mandarijn, Rhizoctonia, SeaBeeGipson, Yehom

 

With 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Thursday, June 7th.

 

Currently in danger of mod-kill:



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Inference from flavor text - Venusaur and Rhyhorn are possible scum and they faced Blastoise and Hitmonchan. I believe Hitmonchan tried to protect Blastoise but since he was Macho, he still got killed.


Ok after writing that I dont know how that makes sense in mafia scheme of things :P




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Well, if you are so interested in my RC, i don't have a true role.
It's just a mix of various X-Shots.
Day 1, i tracked Rafay, who is by default the number one choice for me.
That paid off as he visited Kevin. And seeing that Kevin didn't die.
I thought that rafay must have been roleblocked.
So I had a cop report done on Rafay, which confirmed that he was town.
I also have a 1-shot bulletproof ability, so that's why I said no one can touch me tonight.
Happy?
And thank you for spoiling the purpose of my remaining role. I was trying to lure any scum into targeting me in order to make them lose one more Night kill.
But that ain't happening now.

 

Lord MK (Arcanine), a 1-shot town Extreme Speeder (Commuter) has been knocked out on day 4.

 

I just don't understand ...



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Well, if you are so interested in my RC, i don't have a true role.
It's just a mix of various X-Shots.
Day 1, i tracked Rafay, who is by default the number one choice for me.
That paid off as he visited Kevin. And seeing that Kevin didn't die.
I thought that rafay must have been roleblocked.
So I had a cop report done on Rafay, which confirmed that he was town.
I also have a 1-shot bulletproof ability, so that's why I said no one can touch me tonight.
Happy?
And thank you for spoiling the purpose of my remaining role. I was trying to lure any scum into targeting me in order to make them lose one more Night kill.
But that ain't happening now.

 

Lord MK (Arcanine), a 1-shot town Extreme Speeder (Commuter) has been knocked out on day 4.

 

I just don't understand ...

 

Simple:  he intentionally game threw and made up all that to get us back for lynching rafay 


and for us thinking he is scum quite often 


Inference from flavor text - Venusaur and Rhyhorn are possible scum and they faced Blastoise and Hitmonchan. I believe Hitmonchan tried to protect Blastoise but since he was Macho, he still got killed.


Ok after writing that I dont know how that makes sense in mafia scheme of things :P

hopefully we have a watcher and they watched Atliis since he was most likely to die and someone can out who Ryhorn is.  



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Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons in a standard nuclear attack by SeaBeeGipson. You lost 488 soldiers, 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 1.602 miles of land, 0.000 technology, 103.283 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation.Your clones are dead


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Town:

KevinH me
brewersalliance confirmed town by Atliis
DarkFox confirmed town by Atliis
SeaBeeGipson  Nympho with no counterclaim
Lachiton believable jack-of-all-trades

 

The Rest:

Rhizoctonia
Mandarijn
Ali bin Turban
Yehom
Kitkat16
Colonel Medved
Jazzy95

 
Ali bin Turban, investigated as guilty, claimed to be a vigilante and indeed we had a second kill last night.
However, it was Canik, a townie, that got killed and it all seems too convenient.
 
From https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vigilante

"... a few moderators prefer to defy meta and use Mafia Vigilantes to allow multiple scumkills ..." and
" ... other variations that have been seen include ... the "Crazy Fiend" (a 1-Shot Vigilante belonging to an anti-town faction)"

 

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Honestly Jazzy has been a huge lurker all game. I cant find posts of him contributing that well either.  So for now lets do a hail Mary

 

lynch vote Jazzy


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KevinH mebrewersalliance confirmed town by AtliisDarkFox confirmed town by AtliisSeaBeeGipson  Nympho with no counterclaimLachiton believable jack-of-all-trades

 
The Rest:

RhizoctoniaMandarijnAli bin TurbanYehomKitkat16Colonel MedvedJazzy95

 
Ali bin Turban, investigated as guilty, claimed to be a vigilante and indeed we had a second kill last night.
However, it was Canik, a townie, that got killed and it all seems too convenient.
 
From https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vigilante

"... a few moderators prefer to defy meta and use Mafia Vigilantes to allow multiple scumkills ..." and
" ... other variations that have been seen include ... the "Crazy Fiend" (a 1-Shot Vigilante belonging to an anti-town faction)"

 
Vote: Ali bin Turban

This seems like a bit of a stretch here though. I think I believe his claim


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Honestly Jazzy has been a huge lurker all game. I cant find posts of him contributing that well either.  So for now lets do a hail Mary

 

lynch vote Jazzy

 

There have yet to be reasonably good choices, sans possibly AbT yesterday. I understand the desire to grasp at straws because this game quickly fell into shit, but let's maybe give people a chance to speak today before we throw completely random lynches.



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I agree with Yehom. I want to hear from AbT whether he killed Canik or not. I do note the following: Canik *WAS* on AbT's list of potential scum, although he didn't seem to stand out in particular as suspicious to AbT.

 

For the record though, do mafia potentially have roles which can kill an extra townie?


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Once we get a reply from AbT, I have more to add depending on what he says.


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Town:

KevinH me
brewersalliance confirmed town by Atliis
DarkFox confirmed town by Atliis
SeaBeeGipson  Nympho with no counterclaim
Lachiton believable jack-of-all-trades

 

The Rest:

Rhizoctonia
Mandarijn
Ali bin Turban
Yehom
Kitkat16
Colonel Medved
Jazzy95

 
Ali bin Turban, investigated as guilty, claimed to be a vigilante and indeed we had a second kill last night.
However, it was Canik, a townie, that got killed and it all seems too convenient.
 
From https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vigilante

"... a few moderators prefer to defy meta and use Mafia Vigilantes to allow multiple scumkills ..." and
" ... other variations that have been seen include ... the "Crazy Fiend" (a 1-Shot Vigilante belonging to an anti-town faction)"

 

Vote: Ali bin Turban

 

OK. Having thought about it, I believe AbT. Yes, we had a cop find him guilty. But we also know that if there *IS* a framer in play, AbT would probably have been framed that night. Your point about mafia vigilante roles is irrelevant. AbT didn't claim vigilante, he claimed JOAT. As far as I know there's no such thing as a mafia JOAT. 

 

In my experience, when someone is reasoning poorly in this game in relation to pushing a potential lynch, it often means that they're scum. I've had it happen to me in the past: a couple of jokers were overlooking the evidence and saying that it seemed dead certain that I was scum, and I was gutted that my defence was being overlooked, but it was just that the individuals involved were scum and were desperate to kill me off, but gave themselves away in the process. It looks to me like you're deliberately overlooking the evidence to try and push a lynch on a townie. And if AbT *HAD* been framed, mafia would be pushing hard to kill him today. I think we should be looking carefully at anyone who seems too certain that AbT is scum.

 

I'm willing to remove this, but for now, unless further information is coming forward like another positive cop result on AbT:

 

Vote: KevinH


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OK. Having thought about it, I believe AbT. Yes, we had a cop find him guilty. But we also know that if there *IS* a framer in play, AbT would probably have been framed that night. Your point about mafia vigilante roles is irrelevant. AbT didn't claim vigilante, he claimed JOAT. As far as I know there's no such thing as a mafia JOAT. 

 

AbT did claim vigilante. I am the JOAT, and my cop investigation revealed AbT to be scum, but the only possible way that AbT is not guilty if we have a framer in play. 




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OK. Having thought about it, I believe AbT. Yes, we had a cop find him guilty. But we also know that if there *IS* a framer in play, AbT would probably have been framed that night. Your point about mafia vigilante roles is irrelevant. AbT didn't claim vigilante, he claimed JOAT. As far as I know there's no such thing as a mafia JOAT. 

 

AbT did claim vigilante. I am the JOAT, and my cop investigation revealed AbT to be scum, but the only possible way that AbT is not guilty if we have a framer in play. 

 

 

Oh. I scrolled through several pages and couldn't find his roleclaim and stopped in the end because I'd looked for a while and couldn't be bothered. Maybe I'm getting muddled. I thought we had multiple people claim JOAT? Or was that MK? 


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For the record though, do mafia potentially have roles which can kill an extra townie?

 

Yes, that's why I quoted from the Vigilante page to show it could be a scum.

I have a better idea, though.

Ali bin Turban is a jack-of-all-trades, which is common to be a scum role. See https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jack-of-all-trades

He claimed 1-shot vigilante because he had it as one of his abilities.

He knew Canik was a townie but threw him into his list of suspects so it would look good after the fact that he killed somebody on his suspect list.

While anyone could be scum, I personally don't think Canik had done anything especially scummy that would deserve a vigilante kill.



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