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[CM-01] IRON Popcorn Mafia - TOWN WINS
#281
Posted 16 October 2018 - 12:08 PM

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#282
Posted 16 October 2018 - 02:30 PM

Well. There is only one way to get rafay posting.
I think rafay is scum.
VOTE RAFAY
give it a couple hours and he'll post.
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#283
Posted 16 October 2018 - 02:50 PM

Can Seabee actually find true love?
Well. There is only one way to get rafay posting.
I think rafay is scum.
VOTE RAFAY
give it a couple hours and he'll post.
I still think MK's post on rafay on d1 is the best defense we have for rafay. MK pretty much told us exactly what he was trying to do... get rafay shot so he becomes the gun bearer and then have rafay shoot TW. While I could be wrong and Rafay could turn scum, I do think you should wait until closer to the deadline to shoot him so we have time for more discussion in case you are wrong and rafay is town.
Personally I tend to agree with Lachtion that WP and SM are probably who we should be focusing on for today, but in the end it is Roberts call
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TO: Brewersalliance | FROM: SeaBeeGipson
TYPE: Nuclear Missile Strike | DATE: 8/18/2017 9:07:26 AM
Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons in a standard nuclear attack by SeaBeeGipson. You lost 488 soldiers, 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 1.602 miles of land, 0.000 technology, 103.283 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation.Your clones are dead
#284
Posted 16 October 2018 - 02:54 PM

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#285
Posted 16 October 2018 - 03:11 PM

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#286
Posted 16 October 2018 - 03:22 PM

Well, on the bright side gun is in the hands of an active townie. Though we have one more town dead, the chances of hitting scum has gone up.
I did start the wagon on Robert but the reasons I voted for him are the same with which I had spat with him early on.
Anyways I agree with the assessment that we have at least 1 scum on the wagon. Amongst the 4 of us, my top suspect for scum on Robert's wagon is SM.
As for suspects outside the wagon, WP is the one to stand out. SBG does seem slightly town to me as he was the first to point out my subtle reveal of my role PM as that of a town.
Why am I at the top of your wagon list?
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#287
Posted 16 October 2018 - 05:12 PM

NAAC Will Never Be ForgottenFor continued dedication and tenacity, as a warrior and as military officer. Wolfpacks has been fighting both in this war and the last with complete abandon, he has also been pounding the pavement as Commanding Officer making sure every enemy has been covered.Without members like you IRON would be less of an alliance. Well done.
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#288
Posted 16 October 2018 - 06:16 PM

No. Not yet. It's just a vote. I'll put *shoot this person* in big bold print and make it dramatic.
Yes, please don't shoot anyone yet, even if you think they're scum. Let's get everyone talking first and figure it out together.
Sorry had a busy weekend, I'll have some thoughts over it tonight hopefully post some ideas tomorrow
Thanks.
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#289
Posted 16 October 2018 - 07:05 PM

Robert2424, on 16 Oct 2018 - 20:06, said: No. Not yet. It's just a vote. I'll put *shoot this person* in big bold print and make it dramatic. Yes, please don't shoot anyone yet, even if you think they're scum. Let's get everyone talking first and figure it out together.
Seriously don't shoot me!!! You don't want the gun in my hands do you???
#290
Posted 16 October 2018 - 10:39 PM

UNVOTE
Let's look back to Kevin's short list.
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#291
Posted 16 October 2018 - 10:52 PM

You don't want the gun in my hands do you???
probably the best defense you can make to be honest lol
Alright, Lachiton gets a townie point for creatively posting his role PM.
Brewers gets a half-point for pointing it out.
That leaves the 3 remaining scum as
- Sister Midnight
- Velocity
- Wolfpacks
So I guess I just have to shoot them and we win.
here is kevinH's final list. velocity is now dead, so that leaves SM and wolfpacks on Kevin's list
Brewersalliance: Lover of the Pack and Beer. Hater of the Bears and Cheese.
Nukes Delivered for IRON-31
Nukes Taken for IRON-44
You are bresky, Brewsky, Brewers, stud-muffin, Mr. Sexypants, and that cute guy over in IA.
TO: Brewersalliance | FROM: SeaBeeGipson
TYPE: Nuclear Missile Strike | DATE: 8/18/2017 9:07:26 AM
Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons in a standard nuclear attack by SeaBeeGipson. You lost 488 soldiers, 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 1.602 miles of land, 0.000 technology, 103.283 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation.Your clones are dead
#292
Posted 16 October 2018 - 11:04 PM

Let's say Kevin was somehow right. Wolfpacks and sister midnight. If we truly believe there is 3 scum remaining. We have to remember, they choose Kevin first. Clearly mafia is somebody who's played mafia before. However everybody left could of thought it to be perfect to select Kevin because of his day 1 no Lynch policy.
But I think for there gag they left out something. Mafia if really discussed it, should of selected a active town they considered a threat. Getting rid of a more dangerous opponent quickly. Kevin sure fits the bill, but what if they selected tw. Here's my thoughts. Tw, is unlikely to be shot unless it's by a rookie or somebody who is newer like velocity who this was his first game. Eliminating him would of been my first priority. But out of all gun bearers, the first is most likely to die. So why not tw? either mafia has made a big mistake and values a gag more then winning, tw is mafia. When I say this, this is not to insult Kevin, but honestly, when is tw ever lynched? So I can't rule out tw, though I imagine he understands.
Brewers is always active. Him being scum poses a large threat as well. They both all the time feel town, therefore making them even harder opponents.
So. By deadline, 22nd of October, as your gunbearer, everybody submits there vote and get there thoughts out there. The 22nd is next Monday. So I'll probably shoot somebody the 21st.
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#293
Posted 16 October 2018 - 11:18 PM

But I think for there gag they left out something. Mafia if really discussed it, should of selected a active town they considered a threat. Getting rid of a more dangerous opponent quickly. Kevin sure fits the bill, but what if they selected tw. Here's my thoughts. Tw, is unlikely to be shot unless it's by a rookie or somebody who is newer like velocity who this was his first game. Eliminating him would of been my first priority. But out of all gun bearers, the first is most likely to die. So why not tw? either mafia has made a big mistake and values a gag more then winning, tw is mafia. When I say this, this is not to insult Kevin, but honestly, when is tw ever lynched? So I can't rule out tw, though I imagine he understands.
That is a really good point, but my issue from it comes from MK trying to get rafay shot. Rafay just called TW out as a racist and did so in the last game as well, so if MK got rafay shot and rafay is indeed town, it stands to reason rafay might have recklessly shot TW the second the day opened, so with MK being scum, why on earth would he risk that if TW is also scum? im not saying you are wrong there as TW being scum would be dangerous as hell, and he a really talented player, so I agree that scum potentially would have picked him first if he is town. but with how MK played his hand d1? would MK really risk getting his partner killed, especially considering how good of a player TW is?
P.S TW was lynched in one of KevinH's games, I hammered him in right at deadline so he did die in one game I played in haha
Brewersalliance: Lover of the Pack and Beer. Hater of the Bears and Cheese.
Nukes Delivered for IRON-31
Nukes Taken for IRON-44
You are bresky, Brewsky, Brewers, stud-muffin, Mr. Sexypants, and that cute guy over in IA.
TO: Brewersalliance | FROM: SeaBeeGipson
TYPE: Nuclear Missile Strike | DATE: 8/18/2017 9:07:26 AM
Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons in a standard nuclear attack by SeaBeeGipson. You lost 488 soldiers, 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 1.602 miles of land, 0.000 technology, 103.283 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation.Your clones are dead
#294
Posted 17 October 2018 - 01:03 AM

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#295
Posted 17 October 2018 - 03:08 AM

Creating space between your partners isn't a new thing. I figured it's as likely both are scum, town, or one town one scum.
true, it just feels like its a really risky play tho to start the game. Would MK take that risk? i dont know, maybe he would
Brewersalliance: Lover of the Pack and Beer. Hater of the Bears and Cheese.
Nukes Delivered for IRON-31
Nukes Taken for IRON-44
You are bresky, Brewsky, Brewers, stud-muffin, Mr. Sexypants, and that cute guy over in IA.
TO: Brewersalliance | FROM: SeaBeeGipson
TYPE: Nuclear Missile Strike | DATE: 8/18/2017 9:07:26 AM
Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons in a standard nuclear attack by SeaBeeGipson. You lost 488 soldiers, 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 1.602 miles of land, 0.000 technology, 103.283 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation.Your clones are dead
#296
Posted 17 October 2018 - 02:30 PM

Creating space is something that should be considered starting day one. to better understand why somebody would do something, the question must be asked. Dose the reward outweigh the risk?
(Doom War Damage Rank) 35: Robert2424 - 21 - 67,720.61 - 28,156.05 - 96,651.47
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#297
Posted 17 October 2018 - 02:34 PM

Wolfpacks was also on Kevin's short list.
Let's say Kevin was somehow right. Wolfpacks and sister midnight. If we truly believe there is 3 scum remaining. We have to remember, they choose Kevin first. Clearly mafia is somebody who's played mafia before. However everybody left could of thought it to be perfect to select Kevin because of his day 1 no Lynch policy.
But I think for there gag they left out something. Mafia if really discussed it, should of selected a active town they considered a threat. Getting rid of a more dangerous opponent quickly. Kevin sure fits the bill, but what if they selected tw. Here's my thoughts. Tw, is unlikely to be shot unless it's by a rookie or somebody who is newer like velocity who this was his first game. Eliminating him would of been my first priority. But out of all gun bearers, the first is most likely to die. So why not tw? either mafia has made a big mistake and values a gag more then winning, tw is mafia. When I say this, this is not to insult Kevin, but honestly, when is tw ever lynched? So I can't rule out tw, though I imagine he understands.
Of course I understand. There is no way to verify anyone in this game so I expect to be questioned as much as anyone else. All I can say is that I have been here the whole game and have been contributing as much as possible with limited information. Town is far more likely to be "active" than scum is in any given mafia game. It is much harder for mafia to hide out in the open when attention is being drawn to them. I am active because I know that's what it takes for the town if we want to win.
Additionally, keep in mind that there is no lynching in this game so me not being easily lynched doesn't really play here. It's entirely possible that I wasn't chosen because I am active enough in every game and am willing to get my hands dirty that the scum team assumed I would rub someone the wrong way and come off scummy enough to be shot at some point. And for the record, I have been lynched in several games so I am not immune to being lynched.
Your theory is interesting but let's not sell Kevin short either. Kevin is a far more experienced mafia player than I am. He was modding and playing long before I ever started a couple years ago. So while I get your point, Kevin would have been just as good of a gunbearer candidate as I was, if not better. I think that the gun probably got pushed in Kevin's direction because of his day 1 no lynch policy. Not only is he a veteran but apparently the mafia realized the irony of making Kevin their first target.
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#298
Posted 17 October 2018 - 02:38 PM

Robert2424, on 16 Oct 2018 - 20:06, said: No. Not yet. It's just a vote. I'll put *shoot this person* in big bold print and make it dramatic. Yes, please don't shoot anyone yet, even if you think they're scum. Let's get everyone talking first and figure it out together.
Seriously don't shoot me!!! You don't want the gun in my hands do you???
Lol, this one is gold.
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#299
Posted 17 October 2018 - 02:41 PM

Creating space is something that should be considered starting day one. to better understand why somebody would do something, the question must be asked. Dose the reward outweigh the risk?
Yeah thats what im saying. If TW is scum, does MKs play make sense? Is creating space between MK and rafay and potentially sacrificing TW worth it/something MK would think is worth it?
Brewersalliance: Lover of the Pack and Beer. Hater of the Bears and Cheese.
Nukes Delivered for IRON-31
Nukes Taken for IRON-44
You are bresky, Brewsky, Brewers, stud-muffin, Mr. Sexypants, and that cute guy over in IA.
TO: Brewersalliance | FROM: SeaBeeGipson
TYPE: Nuclear Missile Strike | DATE: 8/18/2017 9:07:26 AM
Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons in a standard nuclear attack by SeaBeeGipson. You lost 488 soldiers, 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 1.602 miles of land, 0.000 technology, 103.283 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation.Your clones are dead
#300
Posted 17 October 2018 - 02:44 PM

Right now I don't get any scum vibe from either TW or brewers. I cant vouch for them of course but with at least 3 scum remaining, I think we should be looking at those who are not getting their hands "dirty" at all.
Wolfpacks stand out to me in this regard. He shows on and off and apart from a vote on SBG for inactivity he didn't try to question anybody so far. Even though you don't have power to lynch, you can try to prod around a little more and help the gun bearer make the right choice. Till now zero efforts from him.
Vote: Wolfpacks
Because I see don't see any reason not to.
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