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Sigh. I don’t think you can categorize most of what I’ve said as very defensive. But I notice that Brewers voted for very quickly when I pondered him and TW giving a lot of weight to Kev’s remarks when he randomly executed players. Am I touching a nerve, Brewsky?

lol when did you ponder me?



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Sorry busy at work, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kevin's list made up from some monetary thing, not any proven evidence. By killing me your only giving me the gun to kill with

Kevin's "list" wasn't based off of his stock market thing, only his final decision to shoot was. The list he put together was people he thought could be scum. Yes it was all speculation but that's all any of us have in this game.
 
I'm still torn on what I think at this point. Not much has changed for me since this post:
 

I don't have any real strong suspicion yet but I want to hear more from SM, SBG, Wolfpacks, and Rafay. I think that at least two of our remaining scum are in this grouping but I wouldn't be surprised if all three ended up here.

 
SM has continued to try to walk back the SBG comments and could have been scum on Robert's wagon. SBG is still not active enough in my opinion and needs to post more. Neither Wolfpacks nor Rafay are particularly active and neither voted for anyone to shoot yesterday.

The only thing I’ve walked back is the part about SBG always being scum. It is clearly ridiculous to assume he’s scum because he’s been scum in most of the games I played with him. I thought it obvious that I was joking about that part and so I have clarified myself. I have also NOT backed off on the fact that I have concerns about his inactivity.


Sigh. I don’t think you can categorize most of what I’ve said as very defensive. But I notice that Brewers voted for very quickly when I pondered him and TW giving a lot of weight to Kev’s remarks when he randomly executed players. Am I touching a nerve, Brewsky?

lol when did you ponder me?

I didn’t name specifically, but I said it was curious that people were putting a lot of weight on it. I will look for the post if that makes things easier.

Sorry busy at work, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kevin's list made up from some monetary thing, not any proven evidence. By killing me your only giving me the gun to kill with


I had the same thought about the fact that Kevin made his choices randomly. I find it curious that some people are trying to turn his remarks about individuals into some kind of oracle.

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Sorry busy at work, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kevin's list made up from some monetary thing, not any proven evidence. By killing me your only giving me the gun to kill with
 

Kevin's "list" wasn't based off of his stock market thing, only his final decision to shoot was. The list he put together was people he thought could be scum. Yes it was all speculation but that's all any of us have in this game.
 
I'm still torn on what I think at this point. Not much has changed for me since this post:
 

I don't have any real strong suspicion yet but I want to hear more from SM, SBG, Wolfpacks, and Rafay. I think that at least two of our remaining scum are in this grouping but I wouldn't be surprised if all three ended up here.

 
SM has continued to try to walk back the SBG comments and could have been scum on Robert's wagon. SBG is still not active enough in my opinion and needs to post more. Neither Wolfpacks nor Rafay are particularly active and neither voted for anyone to shoot yesterday.

The only thing I’ve walked back is the part about SBG always being scum. It is clearly ridiculous to assume he’s scum because he’s been scum in most of the games I played with him. I thought it obvious that I was joking about that part and so I have clarified myself. I have also NOT backed off on the fact that I have concerns about his inactivity.

 

Sigh. I don’t think you can categorize most of what I’ve said as very defensive. But I notice that Brewers voted for very quickly when I pondered him and TW giving a lot of weight to Kev’s remarks when he randomly executed players. Am I touching a nerve, Brewsky?
 

lol when did you ponder me?

I didn’t name specifically, but I said it was curious that people were putting a lot of weight on it. I will look for the post if that makes things easier.

 

Sorry busy at work, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kevin's list made up from some monetary thing, not any proven evidence. By killing me your only giving me the gun to kill with


I had the same thought about the fact that Kevin made his choices randomly. I find it curious that some people are trying to turn his remarks about individuals into some kind of oracle.

 

haha oh, i didnt realize thats what u meant, as i thought that was more directed at TW since it does sound like he has given kevinH's post the most weight out of anyone in the game, so it does sound like we agree there. 

 

though it also doesnt help that robert straight up asked for who was on kevinH's list... i honestly hope robert does not make his shot based on that,( even tho kevin's list holds the names of my suspects and i would prob be okay with whomever he chose), i do think kevins logic for why they are on there is flawed so I hope more thought is actually put into who and why



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Sorry busy at work, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kevin's list made up from some monetary thing, not any proven evidence. By killing me your only giving me the gun to kill with
 

Kevin's "list" wasn't based off of his stock market thing, only his final decision to shoot was. The list he put together was people he thought could be scum. Yes it was all speculation but that's all any of us have in this game.
 
I'm still torn on what I think at this point. Not much has changed for me since this post:
 

I don't have any real strong suspicion yet but I want to hear more from SM, SBG, Wolfpacks, and Rafay. I think that at least two of our remaining scum are in this grouping but I wouldn't be surprised if all three ended up here.

 
SM has continued to try to walk back the SBG comments and could have been scum on Robert's wagon. SBG is still not active enough in my opinion and needs to post more. Neither Wolfpacks nor Rafay are particularly active and neither voted for anyone to shoot yesterday.

The only thing I’ve walked back is the part about SBG always being scum. It is clearly ridiculous to assume he’s scum because he’s been scum in most of the games I played with him. I thought it obvious that I was joking about that part and so I have clarified myself. I have also NOT backed off on the fact that I have concerns about his inactivity.

My relative suspicion of you has nothing to do with the SBG comments. I was only mentioning that you had walked back those statements again. My only real concern at this point is the position on which you joined the Robert "wagon". Don't get me wrong, I'm not faulting you for voting for Robert because obviously I did too. What does concern me though with the benefit of hindsight is that I could see a situation where your vote is what actually pushed the wagon in that direction since it was probably unlikely that anyone else would receive 3+ votes but someone else could have received a second vote at that time to make Velocity think harder about whom to target. Wolfpacks was the only other person with a vote. If Wolfpacks and you were both scum (which I'm not necessarily suggesting) it would make sense for you to place the third vote for Robert because that would most likely seal the deal and sway Velocity in that direction.

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry busy at work, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kevin's list made up from some monetary thing, not any proven evidence. By killing me your only giving me the gun to kill with
 

Kevin's "list" wasn't based off of his stock market thing, only his final decision to shoot was. The list he put together was people he thought could be scum. Yes it was all speculation but that's all any of us have in this game.
 
I'm still torn on what I think at this point. Not much has changed for me since this post:
 

I don't have any real strong suspicion yet but I want to hear more from SM, SBG, Wolfpacks, and Rafay. I think that at least two of our remaining scum are in this grouping but I wouldn't be surprised if all three ended up here.

 
SM has continued to try to walk back the SBG comments and could have been scum on Robert's wagon. SBG is still not active enough in my opinion and needs to post more. Neither Wolfpacks nor Rafay are particularly active and neither voted for anyone to shoot yesterday.

The only thing I’ve walked back is the part about SBG always being scum. It is clearly ridiculous to assume he’s scum because he’s been scum in most of the games I played with him. I thought it obvious that I was joking about that part and so I have clarified myself. I have also NOT backed off on the fact that I have concerns about his inactivity.

 

Sigh. I don’t think you can categorize most of what I’ve said as very defensive. But I notice that Brewers voted for very quickly when I pondered him and TW giving a lot of weight to Kev’s remarks when he randomly executed players. Am I touching a nerve, Brewsky?
 

lol when did you ponder me?

I didn’t name specifically, but I said it was curious that people were putting a lot of weight on it. I will look for the post if that makes things easier.

 

Sorry busy at work, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kevin's list made up from some monetary thing, not any proven evidence. By killing me your only giving me the gun to kill with


I had the same thought about the fact that Kevin made his choices randomly. I find it curious that some people are trying to turn his remarks about individuals into some kind of oracle.

 

haha oh, i didnt realize thats what u meant, as i thought that was more directed at TW since it does sound like he has given kevinH's post the most weight out of anyone in the game, so it does sound like we agree there. 

 

though it also doesnt help that robert straight up asked for who was on kevinH's list... i honestly hope robert does not make his shot based on that,( even tho kevin's list holds the names of my suspects and i would prob be okay with whomever he chose), i do think kevins logic for why they are on there is flawed so I hope more thought is actually put into who and why

 

I don't care about Kevin's list at all to be honest. Kevin had as much real information then as we have now. Whoever Robert targets today should be targeted based off of more recent information than a list Kevin put together a couple days ago without much to go off of other than posting habits.


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Sorry busy at work, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kevin's list made up from some monetary thing, not any proven evidence. By killing me your only giving me the gun to kill with

Kevin's "list" wasn't based off of his stock market thing, only his final decision to shoot was. The list he put together was people he thought could be scum. Yes it was all speculation but that's all any of us have in this game.

I'm still torn on what I think at this point. Not much has changed for me since this post:

I don't have any real strong suspicion yet but I want to hear more from SM, SBG, Wolfpacks, and Rafay. I think that at least two of our remaining scum are in this grouping but I wouldn't be surprised if all three ended up here.


SM has continued to try to walk back the SBG comments and could have been scum on Robert's wagon. SBG is still not active enough in my opinion and needs to post more. Neither Wolfpacks nor Rafay are particularly active and neither voted for anyone to shoot yesterday.
The only thing I’ve walked back is the part about SBG always being scum. It is clearly ridiculous to assume he’s scum because he’s been scum in most of the games I played with him. I thought it obvious that I was joking about that part and so I have clarified myself. I have also NOT backed off on the fact that I have concerns about his inactivity.
My relative suspicion of you has nothing to do with the SBG comments. I was only mentioning that you had walked back those statements again. My only real concern at this point is the position on which you joined the Robert "wagon". Don't get me wrong, I'm not faulting you for voting for Robert because obviously I did too. What does concern me though with the benefit of hindsight is that I could see a situation where your vote is what actually pushed the wagon in that direction since it was probably unlikely that anyone else would receive 3+ votes but someone else could have received a second vote at that time to make Velocity think harder about whom to target. Wolfpacks was the only other person with a vote. If Wolfpacks and you were both scum (which I'm not necessarily suggesting) it would make sense for you to place the third vote for Robert because that would most likely seal the deal and sway Velocity in that direction.


Sorry busy at work, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kevin's list made up from some monetary thing, not any proven evidence. By killing me your only giving me the gun to kill with

Kevin's "list" wasn't based off of his stock market thing, only his final decision to shoot was. The list he put together was people he thought could be scum. Yes it was all speculation but that's all any of us have in this game.

I'm still torn on what I think at this point. Not much has changed for me since this post:

I don't have any real strong suspicion yet but I want to hear more from SM, SBG, Wolfpacks, and Rafay. I think that at least two of our remaining scum are in this grouping but I wouldn't be surprised if all three ended up here.


SM has continued to try to walk back the SBG comments and could have been scum on Robert's wagon. SBG is still not active enough in my opinion and needs to post more. Neither Wolfpacks nor Rafay are particularly active and neither voted for anyone to shoot yesterday.
The only thing I’ve walked back is the part about SBG always being scum. It is clearly ridiculous to assume he’s scum because he’s been scum in most of the games I played with him. I thought it obvious that I was joking about that part and so I have clarified myself. I have also NOT backed off on the fact that I have concerns about his inactivity.

Sigh. I don’t think you can categorize most of what I’ve said as very defensive. But I notice that Brewers voted for very quickly when I pondered him and TW giving a lot of weight to Kev’s remarks when he randomly executed players. Am I touching a nerve, Brewsky?

lol when did you ponder me?
I didn’t name specifically, but I said it was curious that people were putting a lot of weight on it. I will look for the post if that makes things easier.

Sorry busy at work, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kevin's list made up from some monetary thing, not any proven evidence. By killing me your only giving me the gun to kill with

I had the same thought about the fact that Kevin made his choices randomly. I find it curious that some people are trying to turn his remarks about individuals into some kind of oracle.
haha oh, i didnt realize thats what u meant, as i thought that was more directed at TW since it does sound like he has given kevinH's post the most weight out of anyone in the game, so it does sound like we agree there.

though it also doesnt help that robert straight up asked for who was on kevinH's list... i honestly hope robert does not make his shot based on that,( even tho kevin's list holds the names of my suspects and i would prob be okay with whomever he chose), i do think kevins logic for why they are on there is flawed so I hope more thought is actually put into who and why
I don't care about Kevin's list at all to be honest. Kevin had as much real information then as we have now. Whoever Robert targets today should be targeted based off of more recent information than a list Kevin put together a couple days ago without much to go off of other than posting habits.

Kevin's list in my personal opinion was based on who was active and who wasnt, which apart from a no vote on day one, is how Kevin plays the game, in a game like this active players could be just as guilty as the inactive,

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yeah, my thoughts are in the air, Lach however isn't on my list currently. 

 

but I do have a concern, lets say we choose an inactive person, if the person actually is town, what if they aren't active enough to make a shot? If I had to choose now, I'd do a process of elimination on benefits along with people voting. Witch the only vote is against SM, witch I would take no pleasure in doing so, but she acting odd and I mean in general how she communicates to me. 

 

I'd like to ask everybody for there next post after this to place a vote on who you think is my best option. anybody not voting I'll strongly consider. 


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yeah, my thoughts are in the air, Lach however isn't on my list currently. 

 

but I do have a concern, lets say we choose an inactive person, if the person actually is town, what if they aren't active enough to make a shot? If I had to choose now, I'd do a process of elimination on benefits along with people voting. Witch the only vote is against SM, witch I would take no pleasure in doing so, but she acting odd and I mean in general how she communicates to me. 

 

I'd like to ask everybody for there next post after this to place a vote on who you think is my best option. anybody not voting I'll strongly consider. 

medved has a rule in place where he will auto replace someone if they arent active so we dont run into that situation.  if you shot a townie, that would place us to one missed shot and we lose, so i highly doubt medved would let the game end like that, and i think he would force replace them-especially if we ask/prod him to do so

 

@medved, can you confirm this/if you would allow the game to end like that or if u would replace the gun bearer if we were in that situation?



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its like you've been distancing yourself from me compared to your normal chatty self. 


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How am I acting odd?

its like you've been distancing yourself from me compared to your normal chatty self. 

I don’t know how chatty I am whenever I play Mafia, but if you want to chat it up on discord, I’m all for it. I haven’t been talking to anyone there as much as I used to. RL can really be a time suck. Lol

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@medved, can you confirm this/if you would allow the game to end like that or if u would replace the gun bearer if we were in that situation?
 

 

As the rule says, if the gunbearer does not shoot by deadline then scum has 48 hours to pick the new gunbearer. But it they are too inactive to participate at all, then i would replace them.


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@medved, can you confirm this/if you would allow the game to end like that or if u would replace the gun bearer if we were in that situation?



As the rule says, if the gunbearer does not shoot by deadline then scum has 48 hours to pick the new gunbearer. But it they are too inactive to participate at all, then i would replace them.
So just because scum isn’t posting does not mean they’re inactive?

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Robert said he is making his shot tomorrow... and so far just me and lachiton have voted... come on people lets get active...its crunch time and there is ZERO excuse to be quiet.  If you dont have time to post actual thoughts, then ask for a replacement...  



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If you're town then you should be trying to find scum even though you dont have the power to lynch. At least make the effort of making Robert's job a bit easier.

 

WP said he is busy IRL but still he didnt try to mount any sort of defense apart from the fact that he is inactive. So my vote stays put on him.




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I would like everybody to vote.

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@medved, can you confirm this/if you would allow the game to end like that or if u would replace the gun bearer if we were in that situation?



As the rule says, if the gunbearer does not shoot by deadline then scum has 48 hours to pick the new gunbearer. But it they are too inactive to participate at all, then i would replace them.
So just because scum isn’t posting does not mean they’re inactive?

Edit: hypothetically speaking of course.

 

 

The rule applies to all players, if someone is inactive then i will replace them.


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brewersalliance (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):
Robert2424 (0): 
Lachiton (0):
The Warrior (0): 
Wolfpacks (1): Lachiton
Rafay (0):
Sister Midnight (0): 
 
 
Not Voting: brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Robert2424, The Warrior, Wolfpacks, Rafay, Sister Midnight
 
Deadline is October 22nd, 9:00AM CN for Robert2424 to Shoot


This is the current vote count? Lach is the only person to vote? Not really feeling good about this.

I attempted to fo a post count, but unless there’s a convenient way to do it (and I suspect there is, I just don’t know it), it was too hard for me to do on my iPad. So if someone knows the post count and can share it, it will go a long way toward my decision on who to vote for. Going by memory, Rafay, WP, and SBG have either barely posted or posted that they are too busy to post. Unless they start making some posts with substance in the very near future I will be voting for one of them.

Robert, what time do you plan to shoot your gun tomorrow?

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The people of Antropomorphica join their leaders in welcoming the discovery of this previously unknown colony of Secor in the wilds of South America. They organised an airdrop of money and soldiers to protect this fledgling state as it undergoes construction (I mean... 1k infra at day 1 guys... come on!).

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brewersalliance - Hyper active like in every game he plays. actively scum hunting. Really poking everyone. I don't see a scum poking everyone and drawing much attention to themselves like he is.
SeaBeeGipson - Me. 
Robert2424 - Gunwielding, shots shots shots shots shots shots! EVERYODY
Lachiton - believe he is town since D1
The Warrior - Very pushy to hear from inactive, but not strong to jump on our cases. He's been drawing alot of attention towards me I feel. 
Wolfpacks: - I believe this is the scum in my opinion, as ive already stated my reasonings previously and havent changed my mind from those
Rafay - Yeet, best player alive. honestly, dont have a feel for Rafay yet could go either way for me, on a 50/50 shot imo
Sister Midnight: coming under alot of fire it seems, might be town as mafia could jump on her quick, or could be scum that is caught. mostly everything about her has been mentioned already but seems the biggest apsect is how she /jokingly/ suspected me and jumped off quick when she was confronted

My suspicion: Wolfpacks (Not DarkFox, lol)


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I voted as well. Did medved miss it?


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Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons in a standard nuclear attack by SeaBeeGipson. You lost 488 soldiers, 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 1.602 miles of land, 0.000 technology, 103.283 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation.Your clones are dead


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