Players:

 

1. 
   
2. brewersalliance, Jalapeno the Jailer (Town Jailkeeper) was found extra crispy from N2
   
3. Robert2424, Marshal Mustard (Mafia Role Cop) was lynched Day 1
   
4. Lachiton, Po Tay Toe Joe (Townie) was lynched Day 2
   
5. SeaBeeGipson, Potato Wedge Reg (Townie) Survived!
   
6. KevinH, Detective Dill (Townie Backup Role Cop) was found extra crispy from N1
   
7. Wolfpacks, Bacon Brian (Townie) was found extra crispy from N1
   
8. The Warrior, Mashed 'tatos Barbados (Townie) Survived!
   
9. Rafay, Sweet Potato Sally (Townie) was found extra crispy from N3
   
10. CampinKiller, French Fry Guy (Townie) was lynched Day 3
    
11. Lord MK, Vinegar the Vigilante (Vigilante) was found extra crispy from N4
    
12. iSocialism, Mr. Potato Head (Mafia Goon) was found extra crispy from N4
    
13. Velocity, Professor Poutine (Mafia Backup Jailer) was lynched Day 4
    

 

Setup:

 

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• This game features a Day Start
  
• Mafia powerroles cannot kill AND use their action in the same night.
  
• Vanilla Townies and Mafia Goons both investigate as "Vanilla" to the Role Cop.
  
• The Available Roles are as Follows: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Backup Jailer, Mafia Goon, Vigilante, Backup Rolecop, Jailkeeper, and Vanilla Town.
  

 

This is an open setup, all information can be accessed here: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tit_for_Tat

 

Rules:

 

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• During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
  
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
  
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
  
• After the day, the game goes to night.
  
• The game thread is closed during the night. Only mafia may speak to each other at night.
  
• All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
  
• You play to win, game throwing will not be tolerated.
  
• You are not allowed to discuss this game outside of the game thread unless I have given you means to (a quicktopic) or the game is over.
  
• Offensive comments, Slandering, or slurs will not be tolerated. One warning will be issued for the first offense, and the next offense gets you forced-replaced
  
• All dead players can no longer participate in the game.
  
• Do not quote any private communications in this thread, which includes role pms. You may paraphrase. 
  
• Do not use cryptography, invisible text, tiny text, or the like.
  
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
  
• Breaking one of these rules may, at my discretion, result in a modkill. If you are modkilled, you will become a Neutral Survivor, and thus automatically lose. Modkilling may or may not end the game day.
  
• Do not edit or delete your posts in this thread. If there is a problem with a post, such as incorrect formatting, ask me to fix it for you.
  
• You must remain active to be in this game. If you do not post within a 24 hour period you may be force-replaced.
  
• Rules may be added or subject to change.
  

Edited December 21, 20187 yr by Colonel Medved
Activity rule updated to 24 hours

Normally, you will be called scum for any action you do. Being worried about being called scum is the red flag

 

MK give me a reason why not to vote for you

You are already voting for me.

Hello?

I'm more voting to make two wagon that are tied with each other, and then looking around to see what happens.

And wait for the final knock?

 

 

And oh, btw,

Can i vote lachiton?

As he's been hot on my tail for so long.

But the thing is if he will turn up dead tomorrow and flips town, i am being lynched.

 

So i am in a dilemma.

 

why do you need permission to vote somebody?

 

 

 

MK give me a reason why not to vote for you

You are already voting for me.

Hello?

I'm more voting to make two wagon that are tied with each other, and then looking around to see what happens.

And wait for the final knock?

 

 

And oh, btw,

Can i vote lachiton?

As he's been hot on my tail for so long.

But the thing is if he will turn up dead tomorrow and flips town, i am being lynched.

 

So i am in a dilemma.

why do you need permission to vote somebody?

Because i don't want anyone to hammer me if i voted.

Unvote

 

As for Robert, I don’t necessarily agree with his stance of voting no lynch but I don’t see it as scummy really either at this point.

 

 

 

 

MK give me a reason why not to vote for you

You are already voting for me.

Hello?

I'm more voting to make two wagon that are tied with each other, and then looking around to see what happens.

And wait for the final knock?

 

 

And oh, btw,

Can i vote lachiton?

As he's been hot on my tail for so long.

But the thing is if he will turn up dead tomorrow and flips town, i am being lynched.

 

So i am in a dilemma.

why do you need permission to vote somebody?

Because i don't want anyone to hammer me if i voted.

mk, if you think someone is scum and want a day one Lynch then vote. We win mainly by lynching. Beating around the bush accomplishes nothing.

 

 

 

 

MK give me a reason why not to vote for you

You are already voting for me.

Hello?

I'm more voting to make two wagon that are tied with each other, and then looking around to see what happens.

And wait for the final knock?

 

 

And oh, btw,

Can i vote lachiton?

As he's been hot on my tail for so long.

But the thing is if he will turn up dead tomorrow and flips town, i am being lynched.

 

So i am in a dilemma.

why do you need permission to vote somebody?

Because i don't want anyone to hammer me if i voted.

mk, if you think someone is scum and want a day one Lynch then vote. We win mainly by lynching. Beating around the bush accomplishes nothing.

Lol at MK asking for approval from others so that he can vote for me and not be held responsible when I flip town. If you think I am scum, give me ur reasons and vote. I will be more than happy to put ur doubts to rest. But voting me just because I am "hot on your tail" is not good enough. Then you guys have no right to accuse Rafay when he does the same.

I am getting a nervous feel from MK here. He is at 3 votes now and instead of doing his best to convince town that he shouldn't be lynched, he looks lost. I guess he doesn't want to make the case against him any worse by coming guns blazing. TBH this doesn't help your case as far as I am concerned.

MK give me a reason why not to vote for you

I should have said give me a reason to unvote you

As for Robert, I don’t necessarily agree with his stance of voting no lynch but I don’t see it as scummy really either at this point.

Scum should want a lynch, but be satisfied with a no-lynch.

Townies should want a lynch to maximize the chance to win.

Vote Count

 

brewersalliance (0):

Robert2424 (3): brewersalliance, KevinH, iSocialism

Lachiton (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0): 

KevinH (0):

Wolfpacks (0): 

The Warrior (1): Rafay

Rafay (0): 

CampinKiller (0):

Lord MK (3): Wolfpacks, Lachiton, SeaBeeGipson

iSocialism (0):

Velocity (0):

 

No Lynch: Robert2424

 

Not Voting:  CampinKiller, Velocity, Lord MK, The Warrior

 

 

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is December 3rd and 2:00pm CST

Not voting is the same, if not worse than voting for no lynch in this scenario. I will at leastest give Robert kudos for voting and not just waiting on the side line and not voting.

 

The back and forth voting does mean something, but not a whole lot if the person you voted for was really never at risk. My vote remains on Robert, but I thinking about changing it.

And I know some of you are waiting, bit I feel like it might be a blitz vote at the end, and that doesn't give the town an opportunity to think about their analysis and votes as well.

In a game where no lynch doesn't help,what Kevin is doing makes sense, but because of this people are getting more defensive on D1, which will hopefully lead to scum making mistakes.

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE MK

 

Hes aways scum isn't he.

So, i got your reason why you voted for me.

It seems like the best reason in this game, that even rafay would be proud of you. Wow.

 

After your vote on me, you didn't even come back to the conversation.

You acted like you didn't even knew you voted.

 

Then lachiton decided to jump in, and voila, we have a wagon.

Lachiton laid the extensive groundwork for the case of lynching me, and then you came back to me.

You just want to make the case that scum wouldn't have voted for a townie so early, tomorrow.

 

 

Vote: Wolfpacks

Alright. We're less than 24 hours from the deadline here, and I'm going to give some thoughts.

 

MK is absolutely acting suspicious, but from what I can tell, it almost seems as if it's more due to their history of acting in a suspicious manner, as I've picked up on them "always" getting D1 lynched, or acting suspicious a lot. Call it a gut feeling, but I don't believe MK to be scum currently.

 

Robert, on the other hand, has been acting quite a bit like scum. Putting aside his advocacy for no lynch, which is absolutely something that the scum would want in this setup, he's acted quite scummy otherwise, up to and including randomly claiming without the slightest amount of pressure. I'm busy studying for finals right now, so I won't pull up specific examples, but he's acted scummy on more than one occasion.

 

Vote Robert

 

As for Robert, I don’t necessarily agree with his stance of voting no lynch but I don’t see it as scummy really either at this point.

Scum should want a lynch, but be satisfied with a no-lynch.

Townies should want a lynch to maximize the chance to win.

 

I entirely disagree. A No Lynch will give us better odds at winning. 

Also, I'll be on before the deadline tomorrow, so if he has a good defense, I'm willing to unvote, but right now I will keep my vote on him.

Vote TW.

 

He hasn't voted yet giving no time for his opponent to defend himself when and if he votes. As I said early about not voting, it's some what worst than a no lynch, and since TW is at one I want to make it somewhat interesting, and at least put him at two.

 

MK could have voted for Robert but choose not too. Why, IDK. I have some ideas but nothing much more than that.

 

If TW comes and votes, I might switch. But at least Robert has allowed the town enough time to ridicule him for his no lynch decision, and for that I'll reward him a chance upon someone's else mercy

I get the arguments against both Robert and MK but I am not fully convinced that either one of them is scum at this point.

 

However, since it appears that one of them will be the lynch of the day and because I agree that we need to lynch, I will vote for Robert for right now due to the following two reasons:

 

1) The roleclaim wasn’t necessary.

2) The following quote doesn’t really sit right with me:

 

 

 

 

 

 

MK give me a reason why not to vote for you

You are already voting for me.

Hello?

I'm more voting to make two wagon that are tied with each other, and then looking around to see what happens.

And wait for the final knock?

 

 

And oh, btw,

Can i vote lachiton?

As he's been hot on my tail for so long.

But the thing is if he will turn up dead tomorrow and flips town, i am being lynched.

 

So i am in a dilemma.

why do you need permission to vote somebody?

Because i don't want anyone to hammer me if i voted.

mk, if you think someone is scum and want a day one Lynch then vote. We win mainly by lynching. Beating around the bush accomplishes nothing.

 

 

 

 

MK give me a reason why not to vote for you

You are already voting for me.

Hello?

I'm more voting to make two wagon that are tied with each other, and then looking around to see what happens.

And wait for the final knock?

 

 

And oh, btw,

Can i vote lachiton?

As he's been hot on my tail for so long.

But the thing is if he will turn up dead tomorrow and flips town, i am being lynched.

 

So i am in a dilemma.

why do you need permission to vote somebody?

Because i don't want anyone to hammer me if i voted.

mk, if you think someone is scum and want a day one Lynch then vote. We win mainly by lynching. Beating around the bush accomplishes nothing.

Robert says that we win mainly by lynching and is the only person who has voted not to lynch.

 

Vote: Robert

 

@Robert - I am not fully sold on you as scum but these two things stand out to me right now. Change my mind.

 

In a game where no lynch doesn't help,what Kevin is doing makes sense, but because of this people are getting more defensive on D1, which will hopefully lead to scum making mistakes.

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE MK

 

Hes aways scum isn't he.

So, i got your reason why you voted for me.

It seems like the best reason in this game, that even rafay would be proud of you. Wow.

 

After your vote on me, you didn't even come back to the conversation.

You acted like you didn't even knew you voted.

 

Then lachiton decided to jump in, and voila, we have a wagon.

Lachiton laid the extensive groundwork for the case of lynching me, and then you came back to me.

You just want to make the case that scum wouldn't have voted for a townie so early, tomorrow.

 

 

Vote: Wolfpacks

Don't quite get What you mean, ive been here all along, might not have posted much but I know how to read, but then again you sound like you always do when people vote for you angry.

 

 

In a game where no lynch doesn't help,what Kevin is doing makes sense, but because of this people are getting more defensive on D1, which will hopefully lead to scum making mistakes.

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE MK

 

Hes aways scum isn't he.

So, i got your reason why you voted for me.

It seems like the best reason in this game, that even rafay would be proud of you. Wow.

 

After your vote on me, you didn't even come back to the conversation.

You acted like you didn't even knew you voted.

 

Then lachiton decided to jump in, and voila, we have a wagon.

Lachiton laid the extensive groundwork for the case of lynching me, and then you came back to me.

You just want to make the case that scum wouldn't have voted for a townie so early, tomorrow.

 

 

Vote: Wolfpacks

Don't quite get What you mean, ive been here all along, might not have posted much but I know how to read, but then again you sound like you always do when people vote for you angry.

K lol

I will be at work when 2PM rolls around, i will close the thread at deadline then update the game when i get home from work

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

brewersalliance (0):

Robert2424 (4): brewersalliance, KevinH, CampinKiller, The Warrior

Lachiton (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0): 

KevinH (0):

Wolfpacks (1):  Lord MK

The Warrior (2): Rafay, iSocialism

Rafay (0): 

CampinKiller (0):

Lord MK (3): Wolfpacks, Lachiton, SeaBeeGipson

iSocialism (0):

Velocity (0):

 

No Lynch: Robert2424

 

Not Voting:  Velocity

 

 

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is December 3rd and 2:00pm CST

We are just over 4 hours from deadline. Does anyone else have anything to say at this point? Please don't wait until the last moment.

 

@Robert - Any other thoughts?

everyone but velocity has voted.  Interesting.  Also this has been by far the best D1 since ive started playing.  Hopefully this can become a trend

I literally do the same thing every game, just this is the only time people either notice or care. I call it planting seeds and I do it every game. It may seem hard to believe, but I try to put out something about my role every game. I did last game as well, trying to recruit people into the night watch, but nobody decided to bite on it. Not that I had recruiting powers, but it was my title. I thought since I was a vt anyways, pretending to something maybe more, I might be killed n1, (witch I was by the fake SK), it wouldn't be a huge loss. So not necessary unless I go "I'm a VT", am I really claiming. You can go ahead and look back if you wish, I'm only having fun where I can, till a SK RAFAY Vig decides to randomly. And lets face it, I'm probably dead N1 anyways if Rafay a vig again. He can't resist trying to kill me. 

 

So if I'm lynched, its whatever. Scum is going to be on the wagon and I can be of help that way. So scum think might as well go for the minority who doesn't want to lynch day 1. I've literally made myself stick out on purpose, why would I want that regardless of my role. Scum going to want to skate by anyways and draw less attention to themself. Kevin or TW has done nothing to persuade me that lynching is going to be better for town. I'm still in full belief that a no lynch will help the town more and been waiting for you to try to convince me. Witch only your votes seem to try to convince me of this. So the ball has been in your guys court and I've been waiting here. I'd rather you at least try to convince me as I've been waiting for you to do so. 

I still believe MK seems much more scummier than Robert. Don't get the arguments against Robert tbh. Yes he alluded to the fact he is VT and he did vote no lynch, but that doesn't necessarily scream scum. If anyone missed it, SBG too kinda gave some hints about his role though he was subtle about it. Also he no lynches every game, so that's his normal play. Not necessarily I agree with no lynch this game but he doesn't seem scum to me because of that.

 

Not digging TW's vote on him as well. Robert advocated about everyone voting, no lynch even though is a cop out is still a vote. Something does seem a bit off about him. First of all he kept his vote on me far longer than the intent of his vote warranted (rightfully pointed out by brewers). Then MK tried to fish for approval to vote for me which I think was more about feeling the mood of town whether a wagon on me can take off. When that didn't materialize TW unvoted and MK targeted WP. Now TW is saving MK here by putting Robert on deadline lynch. I may be wrong but I sense some sort of an understanding between them. So if ever MK flips scum, I would suggest we take a hard look at TW as well.

Interesting analysis. Though I believe the votes are on me for my unwillingness to Lynch someone d1 as I believe a no lynch would help town more then lynching a random town with scum more then likely on said wagon but can't get any blame for the Lynch to begin with. It happens every day one Lynch and don't see this being any different.

Robert of you truly are town I think voting for MK would be the best option for you. Unless there is a reason you guys don't want to vote for each other