Vote Count

 

Brewersalliance (0):

CampinKiller (0):

Colonel Medved (1): Brewersalliance

iSocialism (1):  Lachiton

KevinH (1): Rafay

Kverst (1): Lord MK

Lachiton (0):

Lord MK (0):

Nadarr (0):

Rafay (0):

Robert2424 (0):

SeaBeeGipson (2): Sister Midnight, Robert2424

Sister Midnight (1): SeaBeeGipson

Wolfpacks (0):

 

No Lynch (3): Wolfpacks, KevinH, Kverst

 

Not Voting: CampinKiller, Colonel MedVed, iSocialism, Nadarr

 

With 14 players alive it take 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline will be at 3:00pm CN Server time on Tuesday, December 18th.

 

Currently in line to be mod-killed: iSocialism (2 posts on day 1)

Im going to preface this by saying everything below is written on the assumption that isoc is town, as that is the most likely scenario based on simple marth:

 

 if Isoc doesnt post he is gonna get mod killed, which is honestly the worst thing that can happen  (IF he flips town, if he is scum then yay us!!!)  because it will give us absolutely nothing to analyze in terms of who was or was not on his wagon.  So basically the day will be wasted 

 

@TW, if no lynch is at 4 votes to carry a deadline no lynch but not the 8 votes for a hard no lynch and isoc is still at 2 posts and is in line to be mod killed, would the day end with the mod kill or the no lynch and no death?

A mod-kill will supersede the vote count unless the vote count reaches majority which would effectively end the day before the deadline.

Well then isoc better show up, because we are about 24 hours from deadline and a mod kill is the worst thing that can happen (unless he is scum of course) as if isoc is town we will legit gain absolutely nothing other than a dead townie...

TW won't mod kill me... now.. so I think

okay thats three, so I think youre safe!

any thoughts on the game so far? 

Also I haven't checked the thread in a while it's been a slow day one start with not a lot to add, but to make it an even race.

 

Vote SBG

Also I haven't checked the thread in a while it's been a slow day one start with not a lot to add, but to make it an even race.

 

Vote SBG

how does that make it even?  that puts SBG to L-1 with 24 hrs or so until deadline, and with absolutely no reasoning behind it at all...

 

FoS isoc

Oh, I was looking at the vote count right before. Didn't see a vote was removed.

 

Unvote

 

No it's even

That’s just supicious. A straight up random vote...

 

Also, this isn’t getting us anywhere

 

Unvote

Vote no lynch

That’s just supicious. A straight up random vote...

 

Also, this isn’t getting us anywhere

 

Unvote

Vote no lynch

I'm starting to agree here. I doubt we will get a wagon going on someone.

 

But I am suspicious Isocialism just came and instantly voted myself to try and put me close to lynch range.

 

Could be a scum plan to jump a wagon last second to get a kill and cover it with "oh it was D1".

 

Serious FoS on Isocialism

 

But even if I want a lynch on D1 it seems the no lynch party is gonna win this out.

 

Unvote

 

Vote No Lynch

Vote Count

 

Brewersalliance (0):

CampinKiller (0):

Colonel Medved (1): Brewersalliance

iSocialism (1):  Lachiton

KevinH (1): Rafay

Kverst (1): Lord MK

Lachiton (0):

Lord MK (0):

Nadarr (0):

Rafay (0):

Robert2424 (0):

SeaBeeGipson (2): Sister Midnight, Robert2424

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

 

No Lynch (4): Wolfpacks, KevinH, Kverst, SeaBeeGipson

 

Not Voting: CampinKiller, Colonel MedVed, iSocialism, Nadarr

 

With 14 players alive it take 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline will be at 3:00pm CN Server time on Tuesday, December 18th.

 

Currently in line to be mod-killed:

Also I haven't checked the thread in a while it's been a slow day one start with not a lot to add, but to make it an even race.

 

Vote SBG

Oh, I was looking at the vote count right before. Didn't see a vote was removed.

 

Unvote

 

No it's even

What???

 

I saw that and I was like wtf?! I’m not ready to actually lynch anyone. Can you explaine yourself, Isoc?

 

UNVOTE

so it looks like we are gonna no lynch with everyone unvoting and no lynch is now at 4 votes...

I don't like the idea of a no lynch...

I don't like the idea of a no lynch...

Any alternative wagons? I mean you arent voting at all and day ends tomorrow.

 

so it looks like we are gonna no lynch with everyone unvoting and no lynch is now at 4 votes...

Again an alternative? I dont see a wagon forming we can get information off of. There isnt any 'X vs X', theres alot of wagon hopping. I dont think we'd get what were hoping for at this point except a rushed lynch with "we had to lynch someone. Sorry he was town" excuses and everyone would throw any information we gather out. We should've had wagons picked days ago, not 1 day til the end.

 

We had a good forming on CM v Myself but it never truly took off and I'm obviously not gonna vote myself. I also dont believe CM is scum enough to warrant a vote there. A lynch off chance should still gather SOME information. I see a lynch at this point gathering nothing but a potentially dead scum or townie with really nothing but excuses being available tomorrow.

Yeah, isoc, what was that?

 

Unvote

 

 

brewersalliance, on 17 Dec 2018 - 16:08, said: so it looks like we are gonna no lynch with everyone unvoting and no lynch is now at 4 votes... Again an alternative? I dont see a wagon forming we can get information off of. There isnt any 'X vs X', theres alot of wagon hopping. I dont think we'd get what were hoping for at this point except a rushed lynch with "we had to lynch someone. Sorry he was town" excuses and everyone would throw any information we gather out. We should've had wagons picked days ago, not 1 day til the end

 

 

which is why I stayed on medved from a few days ago and havent been hopping around.  At this point, we really wouldnt have much to go on.  Sure iSoc acted strange, and it could very well be he looked at the wrong vote count like he said, so that alone with so little time until deadline isnt enough to sell me he is scum and should be lynched.  

 

medved was the most interesting wagon of the day imo, and then the way nadarr and kverst jumped so quickly was interesting and a bit alarming, and nadarr did get really defensive when questioned about it.  Combined those are usually scum tells, but it can also be attributed to her being new.  So as of right now I think the medved wagon at least gives us something to think about going forward.  

 

While I still wish d1 would end in a lynch, if we go for a quick lynch now, we are more likely to rush it, not give someone adiquet time to defend themselves and most likely get it wrong.  And scum knows this, so I doubt anyone from scum would join a rushed wagon at the end of the day, so we would probably have just a bunch of townies on it, so we wouldnt gain much.  so while I dont like a no lynch, it feels like we have crossed the point of no return with it.  

The truth prevails.  No-lynch is the best option!

 

We know a little bit about activity (I know I'm at the low end) and investigative roles will know more tomorrow.

It looks like no lynch would eventually win out. Hopefully we will have some more information to go off on next day. ISoc's behavior has been a bit weird so even though I voted for him for inactivity, his out of the blue vote on SHG and then immeduately taking it off felt off.

Vote Count

 

Brewersalliance (0):

CampinKiller (0):

Colonel Medved (1): Brewersalliance

iSocialism (1):  Lachiton

KevinH (1): Rafay

Kverst (1): Lord MK

Lachiton (0):

Lord MK (0):

Nadarr (0):

Rafay (0):

Robert2424 (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

 

No Lynch (4): Wolfpacks, KevinH, Kverst, SeaBeeGipson

 

Not Voting: CampinKiller, Colonel MedVed, iSocialism, Nadarr, Robert2424, Sister Midnight

 

With 14 players alive it take 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline will be at 3:00pm CN Server time on Tuesday, December 18th.

 

Currently in line to be mod-killed:

 

 

Not Voting: CampinKiller, Colonel MedVed, iSocialism, Nadarr, Robert2424, Sister Midnight

 

cool, we have 6 people not voting, which is nearly half the game....  I dont see how this helps us  

 

Not Voting: CampinKiller, Colonel MedVed, iSocialism, Nadarr, Robert2424, Sister Midnight

 

cool, we have 6 people not voting, which is nearly half the game....  I dont see how this helps us  

I see not voting as the result of not knowing what to do, so by not voting we are essentially doing a passive no lynch vote. The only real info I have is that SBG is USUALLY, NOT ALWAYS scum when I play. Statistically it is unlikely he actually is scum, so there is no logical reason to vote for him. If there was a successful bandwagon the odds are high that we will lynch town, which helps scum. I realize that a successful day 1 bandwagon that resulted in a scum death MIGHT exonerate those on the bandwagon and point a finger at those who most strenuously opposed the bandwagon, but really, Brewsky, how likely is that to happen?

 

Addendum: since a D1 lynch is most likely going to kill town, and you are super intelligent and manipulative it seems scummy that you are complaining that people are passively voting no lynch.

 

FOS BREWERS

Its not always about finding scum d1.  lets say we lynch town but have a couple wagons.  We then have something to analyze.  when we no lynch we are 100% relying on our power roles getting lucky and finding scum for us.  In this case we dont even know what kind of roles may or may not be in the game.  So no lynching is basically banking on the fact that we have enough roles to give us info, when its possible that this could be a heavy VT game.  So in theory we might be down 1 townie (or more if there is a SK or idiot vig) on d2, and have zero information learned from potential power roles, and then have absolutely nothing to go on for wagons, and thus be in the exact same situation as we are to start D1, except this time with less players

and if you havent noticed SM, i advocate for a D1 lynch in every single game Ive played

sure it sucks if we lose a townie, but when we no lynch we are 100% relying on PR roles that in this game we do not know if they even exist.  

lynching is the way the town wins.  And the only thing town has control of.  If advocating a lynch= scummy, then why lynch anyone all game.  Why not no lynch D2?  And D3? and so on until someone comes out and claims cop and says XYZ is scum?  

Yeah. It sucks but with 3 hours left we have no other choice....