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[TW-08] IRON Mafia - MAFIA WINS

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IRON Mafia


 

Sample Role PM said:


You are a Vanilla Townie. Your power is in your vote.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.




Players:


  • Brewersalliance
  • CampinKiller (Rhizoctonia)
  • Colonel Medved
  • iSocialism (SeaBeeGipson), a Town Jailkeeper, has been blown up on night 3.
  • KevinH (Brewersalliance), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Voyeur, was smashed by the IRON Christmas tree on night 2.
  • Kverst (Mandarijn), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Watcher, was killed on night 4.
  • Lachiton (Samus), a 1-Shot Bulletproof Serial Killer, has been lynched on day 6.
  • Lord MK (Hertt), a Vanilla Townie, has been lynched on day 4.
  • Nadarr (The Warrior), a Town Rolestopper, has retired on night 5.
  • Rafay
  • Robert (Sister Midnight), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Follower, was killed on night 4.
  • SeaBeeGipson (Rhizoctonia), a Town Vanilla Cop, has been stabbed in the back on night 1.
  • Sister Midnight (Kevin H), a Town Cop, has been lynched on day 5.

  • Wolfpacks (Matt Miller), a Mafia 1-Shot Lynchproof/3-Shot Role Cop, was lynched on day 3.

Rules:

  • During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
  • If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
  • At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
  • If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, the player who reached that number of votes first will be lynched.
  • You may vote no lynch.
  • After the day, the game goes to night.
  • The game thread is closed during the night. The mafia may speak to each other at night.
  • All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
  • The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
  • After the night, the game goes to day.
  • All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
  • Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
  • The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
  • Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
  • You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
  • When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.
  • Active Participation Rule:
    All live players must make a minimum of 3 posts in the game thread per game day. Any player who does not meet the 3 post minimum on a given day will be subject to being mod-killed unless a legitimate reason for the lack of posting is communicated privately to the game mod. (In the event that something comes up that will prevent you from playing actively, please alert the mod so that a potential replacement can be found.) If multiple players have not met the post minimum on a given day, the player with the fewest overall posts will be mod-killed.

Game days will last seven days until there are fewer than seven players remaining. Then they will last as many days as there are players left.
Game Nights will last 48 hours.

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What's a false btw?

 

MK does have a point though. Lynch proof is too powerful of a role to be infinite shot. But with that being said it can be definitely be more than one shot. Also don't agree with his assertion there might not be a vig. If talking about balance it makes sense to expect the presence of a vig.

 

To me WP is scum but tbh I am not getting strong scum feeling from MK. Just because he is trying to lynch WP again doesn't make him scum. But there's a definite risk of trying to lynch him again as we can't waste another lynch. I am bit unsure as well what to do.

 

Expecting everyone to chip in as we are getting close to deadline and we need to decide fast.

Would TW make someone completely lynchproof without telling them? Doubtful, but possible imo.

 

At least 2 peeps visited SBG N1. Kverst watched SBG and saw WP. Believable role claim from Kverst. WP claims he’s a 3 shot cop, which if true, means a 3rd person killed SBG, but Kverst somehow did not see them. We attempt to lynch WP, he’s lynchproof. It seem super likely right now that WP is some kind of scum. But on the other hand lynchproof is more often town. So if we try to lynch WP again he maybe genuinely lynchproof or he might come up town, which would suck dirt.

 

There’s a good chance we have a Vig, but we don’t know for sure, and they should not RC at this point in the game.

 

Meanwhile we have people judging scuminess on whether someone wants a relynch or not. I think a good argument could be made by town for either option, and I’m not opposed to a relynch attempt if we don’t come up with a better suspect. But I’d rather find a better suspect and hope for a vigilante to act tonight.

Well I read hoping there was something interesting or helpful that had been revealed while I was away enjoying some time with my family and see it hasn't.

 

I'm kinda lost on why MK is being put up because he wants to lynch WP who I have stated on a few occasions I believe is likely scum. Unless someone has something else on MK and that's their reason which could be what's happening here. Just because WP wasn't able to be lynched yesterday doesn't necessarily mean he can't today, but not knowing exactly how it happened is a problem. If he in fact he is lynchproof doesn't mean he is all game

 

To WP defense, I don't know ow why people assume he knew he was lynchproof. A lot of times things like "weak roles" or a ascetic modifier isn't known so he very well may have not known. That being said that doesn't Grant him any town points for me, just think the possibility he wasn't told is possible, if in fact that's what stopped it.

 

I dunno, looks like ATM we have 2 options. I think WP is the right vote because I believe he's scum(only reason not to is if we can't Lynch avgain), and MK I don't believe deserves all the suspicion of wanting to Lynch WP unless someone on wagon knows something more rest of us don't.

@lachiton,

 

A false is a false lead.

 

Like having a lynchproof to make everyone think there's a vig. But there's no vig in reality.

Here, it may because the addition of vig will seriously tilt the balance towards town.

Maybe the scum team is vulnerable, so tw may have given an extra protection.

 

If someone is lynchproof, and that person is scum, their power is a game changer when they are about to be lynched when there's just 3 or 4 players left.

WP blew that protection way early.

He shouldn't go anywhere. I think its in the towns best interest to let him survive the day. Look elsewhere and instead of wraped around 2 days of lynching the same person with no additional insight other then his role. 

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Vote Count

Brewersalliance (0):
Colonel Medved (1): Lord MK
iSocialism (0):
Kverst (0):
Lachiton (0):
Lord MK (2): Brewersalliance, Colonel Medved
Nadarr (0):
Rafay (1): Robert2424
Rhizoctonia (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Sister Midnight (0):
Wolfpacks (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting:  iSocialism, Kverst, Lachiton, Nadarr, Rafay, Rhizoctonia, Sister Midnight, Wolfpacks

With 12 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline will be at 10:00am CN Server time on Friday, January 4th.

 

Currently in line to be mod-killed: Nadarr (2 posts on day 3)

Could but I'd rather unless the vig is sure to shoot. Otherwise we get another rafay wanna be sk. We can re engage wolfpacks tomorrow.

Didn't know we was engaged

I would really like to hear more from CM as to his reasons I MK. I get a scumy vibe off him, but now enough to vote quite yet. I would love to hear more of your reasons to mix with the vibes I am picking up.

 

I also don't think trying to lynch WP again is smart. We have very limited knowledge on this D2 to try and relynch someone when we have no clue if it is an x-shot lynchproof. While it would be super OP not to be limited I would not but it past TW to something along these lines. I have faith that there is a vig sitting in the dark waiting to have more information.

 

At this point there is not enough information to place my vote, and to be completely honest this day has just confused the shit out of me. I will reevaluate voting if I can get more info from CM.

Fine.

 

I am Hertt, town cop.

 

I investigated Wp, that's why i went after him.

So that's a double confirmation then. I think majority is in agreement that WP is scum. The only problem is whether WP is more than 1 shot lynch proof. If he is then we waste another lynch. If a gov saved him then I guess we can try to lynch him again.

I believe your RC at this point. There is no way a scum will risk trying to pose as a cop and out himself as scum if the actual cop showed up. Unless you're emboldened by the fact that WP too RCed cop and there was no counter claim so thid was a clever strategy to fool town.

Vote: WP

 

As earlier stated didn't understand all the votes directed at MK for simply going after WP, and look what it caused, forcing the reveal of the real cop.

Let's hope we have a doctor

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Vote Count

Brewersalliance (0):
Colonel Medved (1): Lord MK
iSocialism (0):
Kverst (0):
Lachiton (0):
Lord MK (3): Brewersalliance, Colonel Medved, Robert2424
Nadarr (0):
Rafay (1): iSocialism
Rhizoctonia (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Sister Midnight (0):
Wolfpacks (1): Rhizoctonia

 

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting:  Kverst, Lachiton, Nadarr, Rafay, Sister Midnight, Wolfpacks

With 12 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline will be at 10:00am CN Server time on Friday, January 4th.

 

Currently in line to be mod-killed: 

 

 

I would really like to hear more from CM as to his reasons I MK. I get a scumy vibe off him, but now enough to vote quite yet. I would love to hear more of your reasons to mix with the vibes I am picking up.

 

The only reason i decided to vote towards MK was because he was willing to risk another lynchless day by voting for WP. It could be possible that WP has a 1 shot lynchless, but the only person who knows for sure is TW (and possibly WP). I personally think its to much of a risk to attempt lynching WP again, just because it's always a possibility. On top of that, his OMGUS vote against me also makes him more suspicious in my eyes.

 

His RC as cop is a possibility, but could also be a last ditch effort to not get lynched. For the time being i'm keeping my vote on MK, i'll have to think it more over before deadline if i want to take his word on it.

I do agree that WP is 99% scum, and while there is a chance MKs role claim is a lie, I do think it would be much more of a risk to go after MK than WP.  At the moment WP looks like our only option

 

so no need to put MK at risk of someone joining his wagon and killing him instead of WP

 

unvote

 

fingers crossed that WP is just a 1 shot lynchproof

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