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[Jazzy95]

*Kratos is not a playable character, I just wanted to use this gif

 

 

Canik, Hermes (Town-aligned Vote Thief) died N1

 

It is now Day Three

 

Vote Count:

1. Medved:
2. KevinH:
3. Brewers:
4. The Warrior:
5. Lord MK:
6. Rafay: 
7. Velocity:
8. SeeBeeGipson:
9. Nadarr: 

Not Voting: Medved, Lord MK, KevinH, SeeBeeGipson, Nadarr, Brewers, Warrior, Rafay, Velocity

 

 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.  Deadline is Thursday, March 14th at 5:00 PM CN.

[Nadarr]

Damn. That sucks.

[SeaBeeGipson]

*Kratos is not a playable character, I just wanted to use this gif

 

Rage quit imminent 

Also, a vote thief? Is he able to steal someone's vote? That might explain why there was 6 votes yesterday on Kverst despite there only be 5 people on it.
 

[brewersalliance]

Vote theif just steals a vote at night so that player can't vote. I don't think it's a double voter. That would make sense if scum has a double voter balance wise (to potentially stop them from using their power)

With that being said

Kverst: Brewers, Canik, Warrior, Rafay, Velocity

I'm town. Canik was town. I am 95% sure TW is town

And after a very believable RC both rafay and velocity STILL voted kverst

That means one of them is most likey our scum double voter
FoS Rafay and Velocity

Vote: Kverst.

Rafay voted him with no reason at all.

Unofficial: Kverst-3: Brewers cannik TW
Cannik-1: Kverst
Rafay-1: SBG
So with 11 alive it will take 6 to lynch.

We may as well, just because it seems like we need to get a lynch done.

Vote: Kverst

Velocity did with the reason of it just needs to be done

I am very confident one of these are our scum

[The Warrior]

Wth? A vote thief? :| I guess that explains how kverst was lynched with only 5 people voting for him.

[brewersalliance]

If you read the wiki tho it doesn't say they cast the vote or the vote threshold would change. It basically just says the vote theif can prevent a lylo situation

So idk if the theif is why we had a Lynch tbh

[brewersalliance]

Hopefully we have some info to go off from our power roles

[Jazzy95]

Let me actually clarify that. Canik was allowed to steal and cast another player's vote.

[brewersalliance]

Oh so he was allowed to cast two votes

Well shit.

Either way, it does not change the fact that velocity and Rafay basically voted for keverst even tho his role claim made perfect sense

What bothers me the most is Velocity had knowledge of what Kversts name claim was, and his name basically meant he was town (going of th mythology)

So why would he vote Kverst then?

[Velocity]

If you read the wiki tho it doesn't say they cast the vote or the vote threshold would change. It basically just says the vote theif can prevent a lylo situation

So idk if the theif is why we had a Lynch tbh

It’s always possible that Jazzy just changed the threshold to match if we had a vote thief alive? I’m not sure on that one either

[brewersalliance]

Read up like two posts lol jazzy specified how it happened
And way to ignore what I said about you...

[Velocity]

Read up like two posts lol jazzy specified how it happened
And way to ignore what I said about you...

Y’all posted while I was writing, that’s why I didn’t see it
And I don’t need to explain what you said about me. I explained why I did it, we needed to get lynched going, and we were wrong. Yes it was after a believable role claim, but you can’t say you haven’t given a role claim that was believable while in reality faked before.

[brewersalliance]

If we could unvote I'd probably vote velocity right now but we can't so I'm gonna hold my vote but if nothing comes of the day, I'll def place my vote on him

[Velocity]

If we could unvote I'd probably vote velocity right now but we can't so I'm gonna hold my vote but if nothing comes of the day, I'll def place my vote on him

I’m fully prepared to defend myself if need be, but as it currently stands, I see no reason to give scum a reason to kill me, even though saying this may end up getting me killed regardless.

[brewersalliance]

 

If we could unvote I'd probably vote velocity right now but we can't so I'm gonna hold my vote but if nothing comes of the day, I'll def place my vote on him

I’m fully prepared to defend myself if need be, but as it currently stands, I see no reason to give scum a reason to kill me, even though saying this may end up getting me killed regardless.

 

good

 

we need to acuse and have people defend themselves early in the day since we cant unvote.  otherwise we will just keep mislynching since defenses come after people are close to being lynched.  I would have unvoted kverst if I could have but the rules prevented it

[The Warrior]

 

If we could unvote I'd probably vote velocity right now but we can't so I'm gonna hold my vote but if nothing comes of the day, I'll def place my vote on him

I’m fully prepared to defend myself if need be, but as it currently stands, I see no reason to give scum a reason to kill me, even though saying this may end up getting me killed regardless.

 

 

There is no reason for you to role claim right now since no votes have been cast.

 

Let me actually clarify that. Canik was allowed to steal and cast another player's vote.

 

@Jazzy - If Canik was allowed to steal someone else's vote does that mean that whomever he stole it from wouldn't have been able to vote at all? If that is the case, what would that person have been told if they tried to vote?

[brewersalliance]

 

 

If we could unvote I'd probably vote velocity right now but we can't so I'm gonna hold my vote but if nothing comes of the day, I'll def place my vote on him

I’m fully prepared to defend myself if need be, but as it currently stands, I see no reason to give scum a reason to kill me, even though saying this may end up getting me killed regardless.

 

 

There is no reason for you to role claim right now since no votes have been cast.

 

Let me actually clarify that. Canik was allowed to steal and cast another player's vote.

 

@Jazzy - If Canik was allowed to steal someone else's vote does that mean that whomever he stole it from wouldn't have been able to vote at all? If that is the case, what would that person have been told if they tried to vote?

 

 

the only problem with role claiming after votes are cast is we are not allowed to unvote.  A perfect example is Kverst.  While I am not saying Velocity needs to or should RC now, I am saying we need to be a lot more proactive with things.  We need to accuse people early so they can defend themselves BEFORE votes are cast

[Lord MK]

Okay, another thing to consider.
Someone is voteless today.
"If the Vote Thief is killed during the Night, rendering one player Voteless during the next Day."
So we have 8 votes

[Lord MK]

.
Jazzy95
Can you like update the first page?
The player list, specifically.
So that we can know who was killed and when.
And stuff like that

[brewersalliance]

Okay, another thing to consider.
Someone is voteless today.
"If the Vote Thief is killed during the Night, rendering one player Voteless during the next Day."
So we have 8 votes

@jazzy

 

would the order of the actions matter in this scenario?

 

example:  Player A kills the vote sealer before the vote stealer submits his action.  Would the vote still be stolen or not?

 

 

my guess is scum probably is submitting their targets the second night opens in order to make sure they go thru.  so in this situation, with how the rules work, I am not so sure we would lose a vote today