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A Feast for Crows Mafia Serial Killer Wins[BA-09]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7L2PVdrb_8

 

Players

  • ABT, Grand Maester Pycelle, a doctor, died N3
  • Canik died N2
  • D3brignger, king Tommen, a Town Governor, was Lynched D1
  • Dontavian
  • Ferastical, Breanne of Tarth, a Tracker, died N4
  • Finster Baby
  • KevinH, Arienne Martell, a Double Voter was Lynched D2
  • Lyner, Areo Hotah a jailor, died N6
  • MK, Victarion Greyjoy, a mafia Flavor Cop, died N2
  • KevinH2.O, The Waif, has died N5
  • Rafay, The High Sparrow, a mafia Godfather, died D7 in a trial by combat
  • Robert, Quyburn, a Watcher, Was Killed N1
  • STP, The Blackfish, a mafia JOAT, died N4
  • Tony2 was lynched D4
  • TW
  • Tony, Euron Grayjoy, a Day Vig, was killed N1
  • Torres951, Jamie Lannister, a Vigilante, was lynched D6
  • Velocity, Cersei Lannister, An innocent child and Tree Stump died n3
  • Wolfpacks, Arys Oakhert, a bodyguard, died N4
  • lilweirrdwad, Arya Stark, a mafia Janitor was lynched D3

Events

Rules

  • This game has a night start
  • During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
  • If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
  • At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
  • If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, they will be put to a trial by combat against each other.
  • You may NOT vote no lynch. This is Game of Thrones. Valar Morghulis
  • If no player reaches a half majority by the deadline, the player with the highest vote count will be subject to a trial by combat. The god's will determine his/her guilt or innocence.
  • After the day, the game goes to night.
  • The game thread is closed during the night. Only mafia may speak to each other at night.
  • All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
  • The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
  • After the night, the game goes to day.
  • All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
  • Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
  • The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
  • Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
  • You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
  • When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.
  • Roles are not guaranteed to be sane
  • This game is not normal, there may be roles used you never seen before
  • Role modifications are in play

ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IS REQUIRED.

  • ​All players are required to post a minimum 3 times per day. Any player who does not meet the reqired post counts will be subject to a mod kill. A mod kill and a lynch may both happen at my discretion. If multiple players do not meet the requirement, the one with the lowest post count will be killed
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lol

 

back to the game

 

what happened yesterday? the Kevin wagon formed very quickly during the last day

  • KevinH (5) LWW, Dontavian, TW, MK, STP

high chance there's at least one scum in this wagon

Well we know for certain that at least one scum was on the wagon :P but I agree that it's worth looking at the people that piled on so quickly.

 

I should've known better putting a vote on a new player so late in the day, but it looked like WP was the person who was actually getting bandwagonned, and I dislike not voting on principle, so I thought Kevin was at least a good lead that we could start with today. I had no idea it would take off so quickly though.

 

The votes from Dontavian and TW are interesting because they elaborately defended their late switch as it was happening. I think Dontavian actually directly referenced my logic in why he was voting for Kevin, but I'd have to check. Either way, at this point it still seemed like WP or TW would go to trial by combat, so I can see justifying this the same way I did, but the WIFOM take is that scum might know WP is town and wanted to have a safe vote on their record instead of coming into today on WP's train.

 

MK was obviously scum. I'm honestly surprised he didn't stick with his Torres vote. Jumping on this train is a pretty traditional scum move which he doesn't make a ton, but he obviously did here.

 

I don't know how to read STP's vote. Hammering him is a super scummy thing to do but he's a newer player so it's harder to really attribute much to it. Might be interesting to hear his thought process though.

 

I'm kind of curious about the people who voted for someone else or didn't vote at all. I think Velocity still hasn't voted yet this game, as he is want to do lol.

 

lol

 

back to the game

 

what happened yesterday? the Kevin wagon formed very quickly during the last day

  • KevinH (5) LWW, Dontavian, TW, MK, STP
high chance there's at least one scum in this wagon
Well we know for certain that at least one scum was on the wagon :P but I agree that it's worth looking at the people that piled on so quickly.

 

I should've known better putting a vote on a new player so late in the day, but it looked like WP was the person who was actually getting bandwagonned, and I dislike not voting on principle, so I thought Kevin was at least a good lead that we could start with today. I had no idea it would take off so quickly though.

 

The votes from Dontavian and TW are interesting because they elaborately defended their late switch as it was happening. I think Dontavian actually directly referenced my logic in why he was voting for Kevin, but I'd have to check. Either way, at this point it still seemed like WP or TW would go to trial by combat, so I can see justifying this the same way I did, but the WIFOM take is that scum might know WP is town and wanted to have a safe vote on their record instead of coming into today on WP's train.

 

MK was obviously scum. I'm honestly surprised he didn't stick with his Torres vote. Jumping on this train is a pretty traditional scum move which he doesn't make a ton, but he obviously did here.

 

I don't know how to read STP's vote. Hammering him is a super scummy thing to do but he's a newer player so it's harder to really attribute much to it. Might be interesting to hear his thought process though.

 

I'm kind of curious about the people who voted for someone else or didn't vote at all. I think Velocity still hasn't voted yet this game, as he is want to do lol.

It’s not like me not voting is going to get my lynched as scum. I don’t like to push a wagon further than it already has been, and I don’t like to end days. Being a confirmed town makes it easier, but I still don’t like to vote without more knowledge. As of now, I do think Kevin may be our best bet to lynch, if not him then start looking into LWW. I can’t do any searching myself, I’m basically just a confirmed VT

Haha oh yeah, I confused the games and forgot this is the one where you were confirmed town lol. Speaking of which, Kevin is already lynched in this game :P

 

 

 

Almost feels like LWW is trying too hard to be town

I concur

I know I'm a bit newer but this is kind of generally how I try to play every game, especially early on. I think out loud and try to come up with ideas that'll hopefully push us towards some good leads. I am town though, I'm Arya Stark.

lol

 

back to the game

 

what happened yesterday? the Kevin wagon formed very quickly during the last day

  • KevinH (5) LWW, Dontavian, TW, MK, STP

 

high chance there's at least one scum in this wagon

Yes indeed and hopefuly we'll find it out soon. Looking at the game setup, we had 20 players, so 2 teams with 3 scums each is what we can expect. I'd say we could even expect an SK here, don't you agree, TW? 

 

So could you tell us, TW, what were you up to, last night? 

 

 

 

 

I know I'm a bit newer but this is kind of generally how I try to play every game, especially early on. I think out loud and try to come up with ideas that'll hopefully push us towards some good leads. I am town though, I'm Arya Stark.

Do I understand it correctly, that you, Arya Stark have voted on the KevinH yesterday, because, let me quote you here:

 

an anti Lannister character who also seems to be a double voter is an actual good lead and I'd like my vote history to reflect that

  

If you were town, bearing STARK name, you'd never vote on other character because of his anti Lannister name (just like you). Sir, you're a scum and I'd have voted on you, but we have a bigger fish to fry right now (and we can give our Vigilante something to do at night). 

@llw, I wasn’t elaborately defending anything, just explaining my vote. I was operating under the mistaken premise that we’re all supposed to pick someone and vote before deadline and no lynch allowed, but with over half not voting, that’s obviously not the case


Not Voting:  Canik, Ferastical, Finster Baby,Nadarr, Rafay, Torres Velocity, Wolfpacks,

there was a scum in that train, MK which I had expressed my concern that he was acting antiTown by how hard he was pushing for Torres to be lynched even though we knew he was a Vig

 

we have velocity still thinking KH would be a good lynch candidate

 

we have Torres posting single word responses that don’t make sense and now TM is talking in plural and that he grows trees... almost like a Hodor response... or I am groot 

lol

 

back to the game

 

what happened yesterday? the Kevin wagon formed very quickly during the last day

  • KevinH (5) LWW, Dontavian, TW, MK, STP

high chance there's at least one scum in this wagon

Very high as Mk was scum lol

 

The next suspect i see as his name has been spoken a lot to being scum is LWW and he started the wagon

Do I understand it correctly, that you, Arya Stark have voted on the KevinH yesterday, because, let me quote you here:

 

an anti Lannister character who also seems to be a double voter is an actual good lead and I'd like my vote history to reflect that

If you were town, bearing STARK name, you'd never vote on other character because of his anti Lannister name (just like you).

Well he was also a double voter which isn't an obvious scum role but could have been, which was two half strikes against him with his role. You can see in that exact quote of mine that I wasn't saying that I knew he was scum or anything, but we had literally nothing else and it seemed like a good lead. But yes, we had just been talking about the Martells being an almost guaranteed scum alignment, so it seemed suspicious even with my character. Arya hates Cersei but for the most part she's not really in direct conflict with the Lannisters, which is how I've been justifying my alignment since all the talk of anti Lannister started.

 

Sir, you're a scum and I'd have voted on you, but we have a bigger fish to fry right now (and we can give our Vigilante something to do at night).

Oh come on, this is scummy as hell to do. Latching onto a loose thread to try to really get a lynch train going, but not actually putting your vote on it so you can't be blamed when I turn up town. Like seriously, I shouldn't ask you to vote for me lol, but what bigger fish are there to fry? What are you gonna vote for WP again because he's "too inactive"?

 

Actually you know what, I'll actually put my money where my mouth is.

 

Vote: AbT

@llw, I wasn’t elaborately defending anything, just explaining my vote. I was operating under the mistaken premise that we’re all supposed to pick someone and vote before deadline and no lynch allowed, but with over half not voting, that’s obviously not the case

 

 

Not Voting: Canik, Ferastical, Finster Baby,Nadarr, Rafay, Torres Velocity, Wolfpacks,

there was a scum in that train, MK which I had expressed my concern that he was acting antiTown by how hard he was pushing for Torres to be lynched even though we knew he was a Vig

 

we have velocity still thinking KH would be a good lynch candidate

 

we have Torres posting single word responses that don’t make sense and now TM is talking in plural and that he grows trees... almost like a Hodor response... or I am groot

This is fair, I wasn't necessarily trying to accuse you, just thinking out loud that it might be a convenient thing for scum to do (follow my vote when it seemed like he wouldn't be lynched). I did remember thinking when you posted though that I agreed with your logic and it didn't seem scummy.

 

Ha, yeah the growing trees comment is curious but Tony always comes up with weird posts like that lol. I've been trying to figure out how to read it since I think he's always been town when he acts like this, but it's definitely weird and confusing.

Haha oh yeah, I confused the games and forgot this is the one where you were confirmed town lol. Speaking of which, Kevin is already lynched in this game :P

You were the one who confused me thinking that lol

 

When you were talking about me not being confirmed I was thinking “okay so this is the game where I’m not confirmed and kev is prime lynch target

 

Do I understand it correctly, that you, Arya Stark have voted on the KevinH yesterday, because, let me quote you here:

 

an anti Lannister character who also seems to be a double voter is an actual good lead and I'd like my vote history to reflect that

If you were town, bearing STARK name, you'd never vote on other character because of his anti Lannister name (just like you).
Well he was also a double voter which isn't an obvious scum role but could have been, which was two half strikes against him with his role. You can see in that exact quote of mine that I wasn't saying that I knew he was scum or anything, but we had literally nothing else and it seemed like a good lead. But yes, we had just been talking about the Martells being an almost guaranteed scum alignment, so it seemed suspicious even with my character. Arya hates Cersei but for the most part she's not really in direct conflict with the Lannisters, which is how I've been justifying my alignment since all the talk of anti Lannister started.

 

Sir, you're a scum and I'd have voted on you, but we have a bigger fish to fry right now (and we can give our Vigilante something to do at night).

Oh come on, this is scummy as hell to do. Latching onto a loose thread to try to really get a lynch train going, but not actually putting your vote on it so you can't be blamed when I turn up town. Like seriously, I shouldn't ask you to vote for me lol, but what bigger fish are there to fry? What are you gonna vote for WP again because he's "too inactive"?

 

Actually you know what, I'll actually put my money where my mouth is.

 

Vote: AbT

But the thing is im not so inactive now, but he has got a fair point AbT, if your that certain why have you not voted for him

I was in the process of revoting for Wolfpacks when the moderator closed the game.

 

AbT's thought process regarding LWW seems sound to me.

Can someone please explain to me why you guys kept voting for WP? The literal only thing anyone ever came up with is that he was "inactive" even though he wasn't really, just not posting a ton which isn't a crime lol. Nothing he did read scum to me, it just seemed like a "might as well get rid of someone" vote. I'm not saying my Kevin logic was perfect (he was town so obviously not lol) but I genuinely think it had a better chance of being accurate than all the WP hate.

 

But the thing is im not so inactive now, but he has got a fair point AbT, if your that certain why have you not voted for him

 

He has no point at all. Oddly, you're even quoting my explanation, why I'm not voting on him right now...and yet you're asking this question. Is LWW your friend, or something? 

 

I said there's a bigger fish to fry here, than just an ordinary scum. That's why I'm not voting on LWW. At least Lyner gets it. I'm waiting for TW to explain what did he last night.

 

 

 

But yes, we had just been talking about the Martells being an almost guaranteed scum alignment, so it seemed suspicious even with my character. Arya hates Cersei but for the most part she's not really in direct conflict with the Lannisters, which is how I've been justifying my alignment since all the talk of anti Lannister started.

 

That's quite entertaining. So you say Martell's almost guaranteed scum, while the girl that got her father and brother killed and her sister held hostage by the Lannisters...the girl that repeats like a mantra that she'll kill Cersei is "not in a direct conflict with the Lannisters"? 

 

You also seem quite desperate with that latching onto WP argument in every post. WP was inactive for almost the whole D2. Coming back just one day before the end of D2 is not going to help, if there are no other obvious targets. Unless you're desperate to keep him alive. 

 

I was in the process of revoting for Wolfpacks when the moderator closed the game.

 

AbT's thought process regarding LWW seems sound to me.

Can someone please explain to me why you guys kept voting for WP? The literal only thing anyone ever came up with is that he was "inactive" even though he wasn't really, just not posting a ton which isn't a crime lol. Nothing he did read scum to me, it just seemed like a "might as well get rid of someone" vote. I'm not saying my Kevin logic was perfect (he was town so obviously not lol) but I genuinely think it had a better chance of being accurate than all the WP hate.

 

Inactivity was just as good a reason.  I wasn't buying into the Kevin bandwagon, but MK's comments led me to pull back my vote on WP because I wanted to hear his "better target."

 

That he advocated voting for others rather than WP is rather telling, methinks.  Tho, MK is quite good at this game, so I wouldn't expect to see him make a move like that.

 

I can be convinced to go either LWW or WP right now, as AbT's commentary about LWW is well thought out and clear, and to be honest LWW your defense seems to be struggling.

 

 

But the thing is im not so inactive now, but he has got a fair point AbT, if your that certain why have you not voted for him

 

He has no point at all. Oddly, you're even quoting my explanation, why I'm not voting on him right now...and yet you're asking this question. Is LWW your friend, or something? 

 

I said there's a bigger fish to fry here, than just an ordinary scum. That's why I'm not voting on LWW. At least Lyner gets it. I'm waiting for TW to explain what did he last night.

 

 

 

But yes, we had just been talking about the Martells being an almost guaranteed scum alignment, so it seemed suspicious even with my character. Arya hates Cersei but for the most part she's not really in direct conflict with the Lannisters, which is how I've been justifying my alignment since all the talk of anti Lannister started.

 

That's quite entertaining. So you say Martell's almost guaranteed scum, while the girl that got her father and brother killed and her sister held hostage by the Lannisters...the girl that repeats like a mantra that she'll kill Cersei is "not in a direct conflict with the Lannisters"? 

 

You also seem quite desperate with that latching onto WP argument in every post. WP was inactive for almost the whole D2. Coming back just one day before the end of D2 is not going to help, if there are no other obvious targets. Unless you're desperate to keep him alive. 

 

Seems to me AbT you already know....

The theory about anti-Lannister players from A Feast for Crows has now been proven false with Kevin’s death. He was a Martell who were opposition to the Lannister’s at that time and he was town. It doesn’t do us any good to continue discussing that line of thinking anymore.

 

Given ABT’s thinly veiled comments about me and what I did last night, I’m going to assume he is either a tracker and tracked me or a watcher and watched MK. However, given that MK was visited by more than one person last night due to the way yesterday played out and that ABT isn’t questioning anyone else, I’m going to assume it’s more likely that I was tracked.

 

I have a role that allowed me to visit MK last night. I did not kill him however. I know what you think you know, but you’re wrong. I’m looking for that person. Think about what that means and you’ll know what my role is.

 

 

The theory about anti-Lannister players from A Feast for Crows has now been proven false with Kevin’s death. He was a Martell who were opposition to the Lannister’s at that time and he was town. It doesn’t do us any good to continue discussing that line of thinking anymore
 

 

I beg to differ. It can acctually do us a lot of good. KevinH was lynched because of "anti-Lannister name = scum" theory. Therefore it's logical to assume that every person on his wagon had Lannister-friendly name, isn't it? After all, if one was a town named, let's say "Arya Stark", it would be obvious to him, that this anti-Lannister theory is false. Therefore he wouldn't participate in KevinHs wagon, or use anti-Lannister argument. 

 

This leads us to a logical conclusion, that there were NO town characters on KevinH's wagon who had anti-Lannister names. Therefore anyone on the KevinH's wagon who bears anti-Lannister name is a scum. 

 

So just in case, TW would you mind sharing your name with us? 

 

 

 

 

Given ABT’s thinly veiled comments about me and what I did last night, I’m going to assume he is either a tracker and tracked me or a watcher and watched MK. However, given that MK was visited by more than one person last night due to the way yesterday played out and that ABT isn’t questioning anyone else, I’m going to assume it’s more likely that I was tracked. I have a role that allowed me to visit MK last night. I did not kill him however. I know what you think you know, but you’re wrong. I’m looking for that person. Think about what that means and you’ll know what my role is.
 

 

I'm not a Watcher/Tracker. Information I'm collecting is more limited. Luckily for us, there was a watcher present at the scene and we know the names of everyone that visited MK last night. Full list consists of:

 

- me,

- TW

- LWW 

 

It was provided already few days ago. It was vague, but I bet everyone who visited MK understood the message. I've waited for some time, to see if any of you starts investigating it, but you had no intention apparently, to uncover the truth. So whatever you say about looking for "that person" I'm not holding my breath. 


Oh and to be precise: when I said " I've waited for some time, to see if any of you starts investigating it," I didn't meant I wanted to find it out for myself (because I knew you wouldn't). I wanted it to be more evident for the town. 

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