https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7L2PVdrb_8

 

Players

• ABT, Grand Maester Pycelle, a doctor, died N3
• Canik died N2
• D3brignger, king Tommen, a Town Governor, was Lynched D1
• Dontavian
• Ferastical, Breanne of Tarth, a Tracker, died N4
• Finster Baby
• KevinH, Arienne Martell, a Double Voter was Lynched D2
• Lyner, Areo Hotah a jailor, died N6
• MK, Victarion Greyjoy, a mafia Flavor Cop, died N2
• KevinH2.O, The Waif, has died N5
• Rafay, The High Sparrow, a mafia Godfather, died D7 in a trial by combat
• Robert, Quyburn, a Watcher, Was Killed N1
• STP, The Blackfish, a mafia JOAT, died N4
• Tony2 was lynched D4
• TW
• Tony, Euron Grayjoy, a Day Vig, was killed N1
• Torres951, Jamie Lannister, a Vigilante, was lynched D6
• Velocity, Cersei Lannister, An innocent child and Tree Stump died n3
• Wolfpacks, Arys Oakhert, a bodyguard, died N4
• lilweirrdwad, Arya Stark, a mafia Janitor was lynched D3

Events

• Day 1 Start Vote Count 1.0 Vote Count 1.2 Final Vote Count
• Day 2 Start Final Vote Count
• Day 3 Start Vote Count 3.1 Vote Count 3.2 Final Vote Count
• Day 4 Start Vote Count 4.1 Final Vote Count
• Day 5 Start vOTE cOUNT 5.1 Final Vote count
• Day 6 start  Final Vote COunt
• Day 7 Start

Rules

• This game has a night start
• During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
• If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, they will be put to a trial by combat against each other.
• You may NOT vote no lynch. This is Game of Thrones. Valar Morghulis
• If no player reaches a half majority by the deadline, the player with the highest vote count will be subject to a trial by combat. The god's will determine his/her guilt or innocence.
• After the day, the game goes to night.
• The game thread is closed during the night. Only mafia may speak to each other at night.
• All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
• The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
• After the night, the game goes to day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
• You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
• When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.
• Roles are not guaranteed to be sane
• This game is not normal, there may be roles used you never seen before
• Role modifications are in play

ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IS REQUIRED.

• ​All players are required to post a minimum 3 times per day. Any player who does not meet the reqired post counts will be subject to a mod kill. A mod kill and a lynch may both happen at my discretion. If multiple players do not meet the requirement, the one with the lowest post count will be killed

Can we get the vote count and post count.

Well it’s agreeed that now TW is good for now we can go back to lww

 

vote: LWW

 

He is the less bad of the two for now lol

 

I concur with the above post, made about how we should more focus on how the scum plays, than their roles. I know he picked my role for me, he likely made me confirmed town so town wouldn’t go to lynch me because I usually am not a super active player.

 

GoT is a very complicated show, in it’s politics, and many people play multiple sides, so names can’t always confirm who is and isn’t good or bad.

 

 

There are a ton of other holes in AbT's behavior that I think are more interesting anyway, like how he can essentially have two confirmed people who visited MK, but suddenly drop the push for one of those people being scum if his role confirmed that both visitors tried to kill MK. Is there something he's not telling us about what he knows, or is he simply lying? I'm interested to see if AbT will even read anything I posted, or just keep trying to push his mantra that I must be scum, sort of like how MK kept trying to push the lynch of Torres.

 

 

I dropped the vote on TW because Tony's revelations turned out to be unlucky coincidence and also due to Torres involvement. TW was on the crime scene. It's worth keeping in mind, but I'm not sure if that's enough.

 

As for the KevinH wagon I'm aware that it wasn't you, but TW who came up with the information about KevinH's character. And again it wasn't you but Canik and Nadarr who talk about possible scum alignment. But it was not them who start the wagon, but you. They didn't even participated (except for TW). 

Still I jumped on you just after you shared your name, which is also anti-Lannister. And I don't believe Brewers comment was aimed to specifically call out the Starks. That was just an example using most famous rivalry between houses. 

 

That being said, you argument about Martells is valid, since they are the main part of the book. Though:

 

 

 

And if you'll notice the quote that AbT specifically put in his most recent post, I explicitly said that I thought we had a good lead on Kevin, not only because of his role (which was obviously not enough on its own), but also because he was a double-voter, which is a very suspicious and powerful role to have as scum, especially for someone who didn't want to actually claim his role (even though we'd essentially already figured it out).

 

 

You stress yourself that his name was not enough to vote on him. It was his suspicious role that weighted your decision. Except that there's nothing suspicious about double-voter. Not only it can have any alignment, like for example Watcher or even RoleCop (imagine how powerful would that be in the hands of a scum), but also is very easy to spot (it didn't take long to identify him, did it?) and at that point he's accountable for his actions. 

 

To me it seems like you're filling up the "argument" list, for it not to look too barebones (hence that "didn't want to claim" statement). I don't buy double-voter as a possible scum indicator. But maybe I'm mistaken and it was well established in mafia history on those pages? 

 

 

im still confused where to go here everytime I think i got a line on it, it goes off in another tangent, so far I got TW is innocent, LWW sounds very scummy to a few of you, AbT knows 2 people visited MK, but MK is scum so isn't that a good thing unless there are and correct me if im wrong 2 factions, I see a lot of back and forth but no real concrete evidence.

 

Im going to vote for AbT because he gone on about a know scum member and in my opinion been leading us away from active scum catching

 

VOTE AbT

Ok I am beyond thoroughly confused. 

 

AbT sees TW at MKs death last night along with another.  But its LWW that seems to be the best vote due to Kevin's wagon and his name claim.

 

Is that the Readers Digest version of all this?  Nevermind Torres' inability to read.

Ok I am beyond thoroughly confused. 

 

AbT sees TW at MKs death last night along with another.  But its LWW that seems to be the best vote due to Kevin's wagon and his name claim.

 

Is that the Readers Digest version of all this?  Nevermind Torres' inability to read.

 

I'm feeling this is the best version we're gonna get.

I still think you’re reading more into your result than you should be, Ali. To me it seems like the whole “MK was attacked twice” thing is just referring to Torres shooting him and me visiting him. That just sounds like the way Brewers chose to return your result.

 

We know Torres killed him. I know I didn’t try to kill him. Your result clearly indicated two people visited him (Torres and I). You would not have been told if someone like a ninja also visited him so the “attacks” Brewers is referring to have to be Torres shooting and me visiting.

Well that was a lot of wasted time

 

Unvote

 

 

 

And LWW. Dropping Arya name out of nowhere is strange. Also she's perfect for a SK role.

Are we going to stop here? ABT and TW are off the table for lynches at leadt for now.

 

Why not go for LWW? And if not him Ferastical or velocity?

TW, nope. Theres no interpretation here. I literaly wrote what i received. You being on MK wagon and trying to downplay this information sounds suspicious.

 

Wolpacks, there' ve been multiple kills /attempts every night, so unless those people fall of the stairs by accident it means there are multiple factions.

And Im not surprised by your vote at all. Judging by all your previous comments you were itching to do it from the beginning of D2

Are we going to stop here? ABT and TW are off the table for lynches at leadt for now.

 

Why not go for LWW? And if not him Ferastical or velocity?

Velocity is confirmed Town, why would we do that?

I dropped the vote on TW because Tony's revelations turned out to be unlucky coincidence and also due to Torres involvement. TW was on the crime scene. It's worth keeping in mind, but I'm not sure if that's enough.

 

You're definitely either reading too much or too little into something here. Let me reiterate, TW openly admitted that he took some sort of action on MK last night that would have been visible to a role like a watcher. Of course he's denying that it was a killing action (which, in theory, is supported by the fact that Torres has already owned the kill), but you are

adamant that the only two actions you witnessed were killing actions. Both of these things can't be true: either you did not witness two killing actions, or TW's visit must have been an attempt to kill MK (or he's lying about even having visited MK).

 

Also, for the rest of town confused why this is a tangent, isn't there a chance that TW (or someone else) is a different scum faction than the one MK was in? I thought even Rafay mentioned at the start of the day that it's good to see two scum factions taking each other out. Maybe I'm the one over thinking it now lol, but I feel like it's possible that one scum faction hit Canik, and the other one was trying to hit MK but got lucky that Torres was doing it too.

 

To me it seems like you're filling up the "argument" list, for it not to look too barebones (hence that "didn't want to claim" statement). I don't buy double-voter as a possible scum indicator. But maybe I'm mistaken and it was well established in mafia history on those pages?

If I'm being totally honest, I knew that my reasoning for my Kevin vote was a little thin, but I thought it was better than WP (IIRC he showed up a few RL days before the end of the day and posted a couple times, so not inactive) and TW (nothing at the time even remotely indicated he might be scum, and he was active). I don't think I've ever not voted since I started playing here, and it was the very end of the day, so I wanted to put my vote on who I felt was the most suspicious, even if I didn't have a ton to go on. I had no idea people would follow my lead and turn it into a lynch, but I should've known to be more careful I guess.

 

Obviously I'm going into detail explaining my thought process anyway because you can't understand why I would vote for him in spite of my character, so this is my very in depth explanation for what that's worth. I never said it was foolproof logic that was guaranteed to catch scum, but it's what I've got. If you still don't want to believe me then I don't have much left I think I can say to prove myself to you, but you're even admitting that what I'm saying makes sense, and hopefully the rest of my play is showing that I'm trying to help find the rest of the scum just like you.

 

Are we going to stop here? ABT and TW are off the table for lynches at leadt for now.

 

Why not go for LWW? And if not him Ferastical or velocity?

Velocity is confirmed Town, why would we do that?

 

My mistake.

 

we could just have LWW, ABT, TW and Torres as mafia confusing the whole town

Vote Count 3.1

• ABT (2) LWW, Wolfpacks
• Dontavian
• Ferastical
• Finster Baby
• Lyner
• Nadarr
• Rafay
• STP
• TW
• Tony
• Torres951
• Velocity
• Wolfpacks
• lilweirrdwad (2) ABT, Tony

Not Voting: Dontavian, Ferastical, Finster Baby, Lyner, Nadarr, Rafay, STP, Velcocity

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline

Deadline is8/13 at 9am CN time

CURRENTLY IN DANGER OF MOD KILL: NADARR 0 POSTS

 

NADARR HAS NOT POSTED IN OVER A WEEK. IF SHE DOES NOT POST WITHIN 24 HOURS OR A REPLACEMENT IS NOT FOUND WITHIN 24 HOURS, SHE WILL BE MOD KILLED DUE TO SEVERE INACTIVITY

TW, nope. Theres no interpretation here. I literaly wrote what i received. You being on MK wagon and trying to downplay this information sounds suspicious.

 

Wolpacks, there' ve been multiple kills /attempts every night, so unless those people fall of the stairs by accident it means there are multiple factions.

And Im not surprised by your vote at all. Judging by all your previous comments you were itching to do it from the beginning of D2

Actually listening to TM and TW im not totally sure you are scum,

 

UNVOTE

 

So for me listening to whats been said here it seems like a toss up between Torres or LWW

TW, nope. Theres no interpretation here. I literaly wrote what i received. You being on MK wagon and trying to downplay this information sounds suspicious.

 

Wolpacks, there' ve been multiple kills /attempts every night, so unless those people fall of the stairs by accident it means there are multiple factions.

And Im not surprised by your vote at all. Judging by all your previous comments you were itching to do it from the beginning of D2

 

I understand that you wrote what you received. I'm not questioning that. What I'm saying is that, if you saw two people "attack" MK, one of them was definitely Torres who shot him. The other was definitely me who visited him. What I'm saying is that you are assuming the phrasing Brewers gave you "you saw two attacks" does not actually mean attacks. I visited him with a different type of role. Brewers just chose to describe it to you as an "attack" instead of a "visit" or something else.

 

 

 

Are we going to stop here? ABT and TW are off the table for lynches at leadt for now.

 

Why not go for LWW? And if not him Ferastical or velocity?

Velocity is confirmed Town, why would we do that?

 

My mistake.

 

we could just have LWW, ABT, TW and Torres as mafia confusing the whole town

 

 

You are doing the town a disservice by posting things like this. Unless Torres is actually a serial killer we already know that he's a town Vigilante and he shot MK last night. ABT and I had that back and forth over the last couple days but I am most certainly not scum and I actually don't believe ABT is either. I think he is town that was just operating with partial information and on an assumption.

 

I have no idea what alignment LWW is so I can't really comment on that.

Hold on, can someone please explain to me why AbT is suddenly not scummy to anyone? He explicitly stated that he knew the exact three people who visited MK last night were, even though we've now learned that was completely false, and there's no way he could have had any idea at all who had visited MK.

 

I'd say we could even expect an SK here, don't you agree, TW?

 

So could you tell us, TW, what were you up to, last night?

 

I'm waiting for TW to explain what did he last night.

 

I'm not a Watcher/Tracker. Information I'm collecting is more limited. Luckily for us, there was a watcher present at the scene and we know the names of everyone that visited MK last night. Full list consists of:

 

- me,

- TW

- LWW

 

Not only did I not visit MK, but Torres actually did and admitted to the kill. Of course AbT didn't know Torres was there, because he had no idea who all visited MK other than supposedly knowing that two people were there.

 

Literal best case scenario is that he took Tony too seriously and lied about his information to try to pressure TW to come forward, in which case, Lynch All Liars. Worst case scenario he's lying about his entire premise. Maybe the TW thing was still a lucky guess, or maybe he knows via some other means how TW would have visited MK, and tried to use that information to get TW lynched.

 

Seriously, what am I missing here?

 

TW, nope. Theres no interpretation here. I literaly wrote what i received. You being on MK wagon and trying to downplay this information sounds suspicious.

 

Wolpacks, there' ve been multiple kills /attempts every night, so unless those people fall of the stairs by accident it means there are multiple factions.

And Im not surprised by your vote at all. Judging by all your previous comments you were itching to do it from the beginning of D2

Actually listening to TM and TW im not totally sure you are scum,

 

UNVOTE

 

So for me listening to whats been said here it seems like a toss up between Torres or LWW

 

Maybe I'm wrong here, but I thought Torres RC'ed as a Town Vig, but I could be sorely mistaken.

 

TW, nope. Theres no interpretation here. I literaly wrote what i received. You being on MK wagon and trying to downplay this information sounds suspicious.

 

Wolpacks, there' ve been multiple kills /attempts every night, so unless those people fall of the stairs by accident it means there are multiple factions.

And Im not surprised by your vote at all. Judging by all your previous comments you were itching to do it from the beginning of D2

Actually listening to TM and TW im not totally sure you are scum,

 

UNVOTE

 

So for me listening to whats been said here it seems like a toss up between Torres or LWW

 

I'd say Torres has been basically confirmed by Brewers, to be a Vig when they both discussed the consequences of him making a shot (not revealed when killing mafia, revealed when killing town).  

 

 

 

If you still don't want to believe me then I don't have much left I think I can say to prove myself to you, but you're even admitting that what I'm saying makes sense, and hopefully the rest of my play is showing that I'm trying to help find the rest of the scum just like you.

 

 

So you're trying to help find the rest of them scum just like me. Then are you voting on me, if as you say, I'm trying to find scum? 

 

 

 

Hold on, can someone please explain to me why AbT is suddenly not scummy to anyone

 

 

5 hours later you stopped believing, that I'm trying to find scum? 

 

 

I'd say Torres has been basically confirmed by Brewers, to be a Vig when they both discussed the consequences of him making a shot (not revealed when killing mafia, revealed when killing town).  

 

 

I never said that.  All I said was that is not how our conversation went and someone doesnt know how to read their role PM.  Torres is not confirmed as any role or with any modifications of any typle

 

 

Almost feels like LWW is trying too hard to be town

I concur

I know I'm a bit newer but this is kind of generally how I try to play every game, especially early on. I think out loud and try to come up with ideas that'll hopefully push us towards some good leads. I am town though, I'm Arya Stark.

 

 

Why did you name claim here @lww?

 

I'd say Torres has been basically confirmed by Brewers, to be a Vig when they both discussed the consequences of him making a shot (not revealed when killing mafia, revealed when killing town).  

 

 

I never said that.  All I said was that is not how our conversation went and someone doesnt know how to read their role PM.  Torres is not confirmed as any role or with any modifications of any typle

 

Alright. So lets say, I'm 90% sure. 

 

If you still don't want to believe me then I don't have much left I think I can say to prove myself to you, but you're even admitting that what I'm saying makes sense, and hopefully the rest of my play is showing that I'm trying to help find the rest of the scum just like you.

 

So you're trying to help find the rest of them scum just like me. Then are you voting on me, if as you say, I'm trying to find scum?

Hold on, can someone please explain to me why AbT is suddenly not scummy to anyone

 

5 hours later you stopped believing, that I'm trying to find scum?

I voted for you early on when you claimed with complete certainty that I was scum without putting a vote on me, which is just unquestionably scummy as the job of any town is to lynch scum, not rely on vigs or whatever odd excuse you gave. Trust me, I've been suspicious of you since then and haven't taken my vote off intentionally, but that doesn't mean I can't continue playing the game and seeing if I can mislead you or other scummy players into thinking I'm not still suspecting you as our most likely scum.

 

Also I'm on my lunch break which is why I'm posting this now lol.

 

I know I'm a bit newer but this is kind of generally how I try to play every game, especially early on. I think out loud and try to come up with ideas that'll hopefully push us towards some good leads. I am town though, I'm Arya Stark.

 

Why did you name claim here @lww?

It was just a rush of the moment thing that I thought would help explain my behavior or something without role claiming. Names are hard to fake in a game this big and Arya would be a horrible safe claim lol, so I was hoping it would help me here sort of like it did when I was Batman in another world. In hindsight though I can see how that (and my explanation now) is a bit suspect, but that's just the honest truth. If there happens to be a town flavor cop left I'm more than happy to be investigated to show that it's my real name, and I'll learn my lesson about not relying on flavor to prove my town-iness lol.

What we know for sure is that TW and I visited MK last night. I admitted to killing him, which might not have been the smartest move on my part if he were town. He turned out to be mafia so that means we can gloss over the fact that I shot into the dark, hoping for the best!

 

We also know that ABT saw that two people visited MK in some way, shape, or form. The form presented to him was that two people attacked MK. It would make sense for Brewers to tell ABT that he saw an attack and something else rather than two attacks and leave it as that.

 

I'm not asking you to RC, but explaining what you meant by...

 

 

I visited him with a different type of role

Would be very helpful.