[KH-21] JOAT^2 Mafia
This game mimics Mafia Championship Season 7 as found at
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/forums/69-Mafia-Championship-Season-7
The setup:
3x Mafia Goon
2x Town Jack Of All Trades (9x Doctor, 9x Motion Detector, 9x Tracker)
10x Vanilla Townie

The Jacks Of All Trades must use all three actions before repeating an action, i.e. they are rotating. This does not mean they must use the actions in the same order every time.

Players:
Lilweirdward, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1
Torres951, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2
Tony Maurice Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 3
Wolfpacks Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 4

ghaws, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 4

Lord MK, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 5

Ali bin Turban, Town Jack Of All Trades, killed Night 5
Velocity, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 6

Ferastical, Town Jack Of All Trades, killed Night 6

Rafay Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 7

The Warrior, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 7

Finster Baby, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 8

brewersalliance, Vanilla Townie
Lyner, Vanilla Townie
Robert2424, Vanilla Townie




Rules:
• During the Day phase, each player may speak and vote in-thread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched; tied votes will result in a player being lynched at random from among the tied players
• You may vote No Lynch.
• After the Day, the game goes to Night.
• The game thread is closed during the Night.
• All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.
• The Mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.
• Mafia factional kills are assigned; they display as an action to the Tracker and the Motion Detector actions.
• The mafia faction kill is mandatory.
• Mafia may communicate at any time.
• After the Night, the game goes to Day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game, or nothing can prevent the same.
• Mass role-claiming is allowed.

Game Days will last half as many real-life days as there are players alive.
Game Nights will last 48 hours.

Sample Role PM:

Hello, xxxxx
You are a Vanilla Townie
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Personally I’m starting to feel like either MK or Lyner is one of our scum. They’ve been at it for too long.

 

Though, I don’t have the same feeling that Lyner has about brewers and FB, brewers especially seems pretty town to me. He usually likes to play his way and do what he thinks best, and it works. I’d argue he’s one of the better mafia players we have.

FR i have 2 questions rn

 @abt what happened to the wagon against rafay?

 

There was no wagon against Rafay, just me voting. He's my default lurking target, unless more convincing options appear.

So if I may ask, where are you going with that question?

I took a look at Wolfpacks history. Last day he initialy voted on Finster, when Tonys wagon was in the lead. However he unvoted as soon as both wagons got equal number of votes, with following comment:

 

Unvote

 

Im starting to buy in with Robert here about brewers and im getting very suspicious of TM

An odd reasoning to start suspecting those two, at the same time, when they're in obvious conflict and cant both be scum.

Personally I’m starting to feel like either MK or Lyner is one of our scum. They’ve been at it for too long.

 

Though, I don’t have the same feeling that Lyner has about brewers and FB, brewers especially seems pretty town to me. He usually likes to play his way and do what he thinks best, and it works. I’d argue he’s one of the better mafia players we have.

Right now Im thinking both Lyner and MK might be town ( even though MK's playstyle is scummy). I was a bit suspicious about Brewers, but as new suspects appear, he's of my list for now ( after all there cannt be more than 3 scums)

 

My main suspects are Wolfpacks and then Finster.

I like stiring the pot and causing discussion. MK a bit too smug for my liking as well, and we need a true wagon to actully get people like TW out and perticapate more. Get off the sideline people. Nothing going to happen with people being too scared to put themself out there and vote. Shit happens. You'll never win by not voting and taking chances. 

 

VOTE MK

 

 

@lyner any reasoning for backing down from the finister wagon?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone from my list of suspects is fine, actually. Testing MK's reaction and seeing what happens.

 

On D1 we can see that some people are defending Brewer wagon (MK/FB/u (ghaws)/TW)

 

On D2 MK defended FB wagon.

 

Now let's see what happens when we push MK wagon.

@abt the reason I asked you that question was because last day I felt like you would push rafay again as last day u stopped only coz there were no votes

now that u lay it down tho same reasoning can be said against WP but WP is always like that it does makes sense what u are saying tho

 

 

@lyner yes I now see what you are trying to do here

Am I always like that, I thought I used to more active, personally I like to add a little mystery it keeps you wondering if im Town or Scum,

 

brewersalliance: doesnt sound scummy to me,

 

Lord MK: isnt scum he tend to get a little angrier when he's defends his scum status

 

Finster Baby: I think is scum, put other people names forward to take any suspicion from himself

 

Ferastical: second scum, in league with Finster

 

ghaws: not scum not sure why just feels Town

 

The Warrior: RL keeping him busy done think hes scum

 

Tony Maurice: out of the 7 that voted the least suspected, why cos he can't vote to lynch himself

 

ABT:isn't scum either but seem to have a grudge against me,

 

Wolfpacks: im vanilla Town no powers at all

So the only thing i learned so far.

Is that peopl hold grudges way too long

 

Like lyner's grudge with baby, brewers, me, tw.

Abt's grudge with WP, rafay

Lww's rivalry with Robert

Robert's conspiracy theories against everyone who posts more than him. (When he used to play more that is. So that's me, brewers, TW)

Rafay's grudges with well, everyone who has ever voted for him.

.

People need to chill out.

Wolfpacks:

 

- yesterday you've jumped off Finster's wagon when it reached the same number of voters as Tony's wagon. Now you're saying, that you think he's a scum. 

- yesterday you were buing in with Robert about Brewers, that he's a scum. Now you're saying that he does not sound scummy to you. 

 

To me it seems, that you have no readings at all. You sound like a scum making things up. 

So the only thing i learned so far.

Is that peopl hold grudges way too long

 

Like lyner's grudge with baby, brewers, me, tw.

Abt's grudge with WP, rafay

Lww's rivalry with Robert

Robert's conspiracy theories against everyone who posts more than him. (When he used to play more that is. So that's me, brewers, TW)

Rafay's grudges with well, everyone who has ever voted for him.

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People need to chill out.

Why is voting on someone called "having a grudge"? Aren't we suddenly allowed to vote on people because of scum hunting? 

Why is person, who voted on Rafay 3 pages ago, because he didn't died in Torres game, advising people to chill out? What's up with your habit of preaching about something you don't adhere to yourself?

brewersalliance: doesnt sound scummy to me, Lord MK: isnt scum he tend to get a little angrier when he's defends his scum status Finster Baby: I think is scum, put other people names forward to take any suspicion from himself Ferastical: second scum, in league with Finster ghaws: not scum not sure why just feels Town The Warrior: RL keeping him busy done think hes scum Tony Maurice: out of the 7 that voted the least suspected, why cos he can't vote to lynch himself ABT:isn't scum either but seem to have a grudge against me, Wolfpacks: im vanilla Town no powers at all

 

Well, ain't that a neat list, throwing everything out there at once, hoping something catches?  

Or just trying to present a safe read to your scum buddies, huh?    (Noticed you didn't have a 3rd scum read, although there are 3 in-game)

 

 

 

Why is voting on someone called "having a grudge"? Aren't we suddenly allowed to vote on people because of scum hunting? 

 

Yeah, I mean, we try to remain objective by basically saying "vote away" in order to analyze each other's behaviour, but we end up taking everything personally and sometimes it's funny as hell from a third person viewpoint 

 

Point being, we need to create more discussion.

 

Vote -> Lord MK

 

brewersalliance: doesnt sound scummy to me, Lord MK: isnt scum he tend to get a little angrier when he's defends his scum status Finster Baby: I think is scum, put other people names forward to take any suspicion from himself Ferastical: second scum, in league with Finster ghaws: not scum not sure why just feels Town The Warrior: RL keeping him busy done think hes scum Tony Maurice: out of the 7 that voted the least suspected, why cos he can't vote to lynch himself ABT:isn't scum either but seem to have a grudge against me, Wolfpacks: im vanilla Town no powers at all

Well, ain't that a neat list, throwing everything out there at once, hoping something catches?

Or just trying to present a safe read to your scum buddies, huh? (Noticed you didn't have a 3rd scum read, although there are 3 in-game)

 

 

Why is voting on someone called "having a grudge"? Aren't we suddenly allowed to vote on people because of scum hunting?

Yeah, I mean, we try to remain objective by basically saying "vote away" in order to analyze each other's behaviour, but we end up taking everything personally and sometimes it's funny as hell from a third person viewpoint

 

Point being, we need to create more discussion.

 

Vote -> Lord MK

To be fair to WP, he also didn’t list everybody in the game with his lost, though I feel like if he had another scum read he’d post it. Me personally, I don’t have great reads on most people, but I think a few things.

 

Brewers more than likely is town, I’m getting a town read from ABT as well. You I don’t have suspicions of, and are playing like town would know this situation. MK could be scum, but I don’t really have strong scum reads from anyone.

I don't know.

 

I didn't say it first.

Wp is the one who said he had a grudge with you.

.

 

Vote Count:

 

Lord MK (3): Lyner, Robert, Ferastical

Lyner (1): Lord MK,

Wolfpacks (1): Ali bin Turban,

Rafay (0):

Finster Baby (0):

brewersalliance (0):

The Warrior (0):

Robert2424 (0):

ghaws (0):

Ferastical (0):

Ali bin Turban (0):

Velocity (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

 

 

Not Voting: Velocity, Rafay, Wolfpacks, brewersalliance, Finster Baby, Ferastical, ghaws, The Warrior, Robert2424,

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is Tuesday, September 15 at 16:00 EDT.

 

 

Ah, bollocks.

3 votes on me, just cause "discussion"

 

Seems no one wants to question lyner about his ever changing persuasions

Or WP about his lurking.

 

Ah, well.

I argued my piece.

Wolfpacks:

 

- yesterday you've jumped off Finster's wagon when it reached the same number of voters as Tony's wagon. Now you're saying, that you think he's a scum.

- yesterday you were buing in with Robert about Brewers, that he's a scum. Now you're saying that he does not sound scummy to you.

 

To me it seems, that you have no readings at all. You sound like a scum making things up.

You played this way before, i think you are scum and you know I know it, thats why you want to get rid of me, I dont actually lurk I only say stuff when I feel its important.

to make it official

Vote Count:

Lord MK (3): Lyner, Robert2424, Ferastical,
Lyner (1): Lord MK, 
Wolfpacks (1): Ali bin Turban,
Rafay (0):  
Finster Baby (0):
brewersalliance (0): 
The Warrior (0):
Robert2424 (0):  
ghaws (0):
Ferastical (0):
Ali bin Turban (0):
Velocity (0):

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Velocity, Rafay, Wolfpacks, brewersalliance, Finster Baby, ghaws, The Warrior,

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Tuesday, September 15 at 16:00 EDT.

Wolfpacks, few hours ago you said yourself you think I'm not a scum.

However when I kept pushing and pointing out your inconsistencies it suddenly turned out, that not only you think the opposite, but also that somehow I know that you know.

 

Youre constantly changing your story and now Im pretty sure youre scum.

I'll be back tomorrow evening. I have like zero reception lol But I will try sometime during the day to make someone else drive part of the way home so I can read up and vote before deadline

 

 

You played this way before, i think you are scum and you know I know it, thats why you want to get rid of me, I dont actually lurk I only say stuff when I feel its important.

 

If you know you know it, why no vote? See, like this:

 

Vote -> Wolfpacks

Tbh I cant get full readout I wasnt sure of the third scum member until now, but if I do get lynched and I will turn up town remember who started the witch hunt Abt, then Ferastical.

 

VOTE Abt

I had a chance to read through a bit and Ferastical is sticking out to me.  He has been wagon jumping quite often onto wagons whenever they are starting to pick up steam (me, tony, MK and now wolfpacks)

 

that is typically a scum tell to wagon jump like that into the middle of several wagons.  he has basically done this every single day so far

 

vote Ferastical 

Deadline is today. Everyone who is not voting. Are you really waiting on JOAT's to come out cause you can't scum hunt or are you just that passive to give scum free days to determine who the JOAT's are?

This late in the day and there's still no wagon that qualifies for lynch (4 votes)

 

 

I'd say it's probably because we got scum in at least one of our leading wagons (MK / WP)

 

 

Can we afford a no lynch today? If not then start voting pls

 

Calling out ghaws/Velocity/TW/FB/Rafay

If you want a vote,

 

Vote: WP

 

Personally I think that WP is the better choice to lynch today, despite me thinking he may not be one of our scum, no lynches won’t do much good at this point.

 

I’m trying to pick up my voting habits so I don’t have ole brewers smacking me about not voting in every game haha

 

I think a lot of people are scared to vote because if they end up being the lynching vote on a townie, everyone will go after them. Not necessarily a scum tell, but could point to it.