[KH-21] JOAT^2 Mafia
This game mimics Mafia Championship Season 7 as found at
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/forums/69-Mafia-Championship-Season-7
The setup:
3x Mafia Goon
2x Town Jack Of All Trades (9x Doctor, 9x Motion Detector, 9x Tracker)
10x Vanilla Townie

The Jacks Of All Trades must use all three actions before repeating an action, i.e. they are rotating. This does not mean they must use the actions in the same order every time.

Players:
Lilweirdward, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1
Torres951, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2
Tony Maurice Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 3
Wolfpacks Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 4

ghaws, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 4

Lord MK, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 5

Ali bin Turban, Town Jack Of All Trades, killed Night 5
Velocity, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 6

Ferastical, Town Jack Of All Trades, killed Night 6

Rafay Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 7

The Warrior, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 7

Finster Baby, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 8

brewersalliance, Vanilla Townie
Lyner, Vanilla Townie
Robert2424, Vanilla Townie




Rules:
• During the Day phase, each player may speak and vote in-thread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched; tied votes will result in a player being lynched at random from among the tied players
• You may vote No Lynch.
• After the Day, the game goes to Night.
• The game thread is closed during the Night.
• All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.
• The Mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.
• Mafia factional kills are assigned; they display as an action to the Tracker and the Motion Detector actions.
• The mafia faction kill is mandatory.
• Mafia may communicate at any time.
• After the Night, the game goes to Day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game, or nothing can prevent the same.
• Mass role-claiming is allowed.

Game Days will last half as many real-life days as there are players alive.
Game Nights will last 48 hours.

Sample Role PM:

Hello, xxxxx
You are a Vanilla Townie
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

 

 

 

Robert, while I do have town feel about you ( those genuine long posts, where you really put up an efort) I dont see substancial evidence against Brewers, even though you hunt him for a few days now.

I mean, its more off of who's he's voted for and who's died. I also like the take the hard and less traveled road. If your saying I look more town cause I'm not being a wall flower and just sheeping, sure, but what makes you think I"m town?

As I said, it's due to your long posts. They don't seem fake, but rather describe something you seem to believe in. Hence that townish feel...even though I don't share your opinion about Brewers.

I had doubts about him, but as I said, at the end of last day he put a lot of effort into something that not only he didn't have to do, but would also endanger him, if he was a scum.

 

I'm also not sold on the idea that Ferastical is a scum. His yesterday's wagon jumping looks more townish than scummish to me. Assuming both MK/WP are town and Ferastical is a scum, what's the difference to him which one gets lynched?

 

I was also thinking about Lyner. Could MK be right and Lyner actually be a scum? I'm not convinced due to Tony's wagon:

 

Tony Maurice (7): brewersalliance, Lord MK, Finster Baby, Ferastical, ghaws, The Warrior, Tony Maurice,

 

Since Lyner's against MK and Finster (and coupled this with my opinion on Brewers/Ferastical), him being a scum would mean there were no scum on the wagon (TW was so far that I think he didn't even count)

 

 

Right now Im suspicious about:

- Finster. Even though WP turning out to be town lessen that, his evasive vote on Rafay yesterday didn't build up my trust.

- MK. Yesterday he was further on the list due to other suspects, but WP case changed things. I don't like his comments aimed to sow discord among town. Last one is for example this:

Did you just call brewers by the wrong name order? Oo, boy. You are going to get it this time. I wish you good luck.

 

Secondly it shows that he tries to latch onto Brewer's back as his pal (which, btw, is one more indicator of Brewers being town).

 

Also when his wagon grow to 3 people yesterday, he reminded himself about WP, which sounded like a bit desperate call to look for lynch elsewhere

Ah, bollocks. 3 votes on me, just cause "discussion" Seems no one wants to question lyner about his ever changing persuasions Or WP about his lurking.

 

- Velocity: I actually don't have feeling about him right now, because he does not participate much, but when I reread his yesterdays comment it seemed a bit odd:

If you want a vote, Vote: WP Personally I think that WP is the better choice to lynch today, despite me thinking he may not be one of our scum, no lynches won’t do much good at this point.

 

Now, knowing that WP indeed turned out to be Town, it looks a bit like trying to avoid a lynch of someone else.

 

 

All that's left are TW and Rafay. Fact that both MK and Finster pushed for Rafay indicates he might be town. TW on the other hand has too little activity and always comes late, to get a feeling about him.

Normally I would not have voted at all, but I’m trying to change my play style from not voting or contributing much to voting and contributing more.

 

The other option was basically MK. Between the two, I think the best argument was made against WP yesterday. However, having turned up town, I currently think that MK could be the next best choice, unless a new compelling argument comes against Ferastical, especially if from somebody who isn’t brewers.

something interesting that might be nothing but could be something

 

I saw TW lurking on the thread.  He posted in his game's sign up thread and I was going to make a joke for him to stop posting in the sign ups for a game and go post in the actual game going on but then i saw him viewing the thread so I assumed he was gonna post his thoughts on whats going on... bur then nothing

 

He has said he is busy with RL but he could be using that to his advantage as scum.  His lack of being normally like TW makes getting a solid read on him fairly difficult 

 

 

All that's left are TW and Rafay. Fact that both MK and Finster pushed for Rafay indicates he might be town. TW on the other hand has too little activity and always comes late, to get a feeling about him. 

 

Keep in mind that I casted the lynching vote for Wolfpacks (a now known town) ~20-25 minutes before the deadline yesterday. Had I not voted for Wolfpacks or opted to vote for someone else, the day would have ended without a lynch and we would have even less to work with today than we did yesterday. We were ultimately wrong but I figured no lynch wasn't an option. No matter what Wolfpacks' alignment ended up being we would at least have something else to examine today. If I was scum I wouldn't have done that for town and make myself look bad when I cast the deciding vote in the lynching of a townie. I would have been perfectly happy with nothing happening yesterday.

 

something interesting that might be nothing but could be something

 

I saw TW lurking on the thread.  He posted in his game's sign up thread and I was going to make a joke for him to stop posting in the sign ups for a game and go post in the actual game going on but then i saw him viewing the thread so I assumed he was gonna post his thoughts on whats going on... bur then nothing

 

He has said he is busy with RL but he could be using that to his advantage as scum.  His lack of being normally like TW makes getting a solid read on him fairly difficult 

 

Don't read too much into it. I hopped into the thread to quickly catch up in between work calls. I didn't have enough time to reply to anything. I just wanted to stay caught up.

I mean, while WP wasn't helping, I wasn't about to jump on the easy wagon. I also feel if we are going to agree that Tony and wolfpacks wagon was easy to jump on. I'm still going to look at both wagons that resulted in lynches as it's really only thing we have other then reads.

 

So here's a new theory, cause I know people love hearing my theory's, especially brewers. The JOAT's aren't going to claim unless the get a guilty result. Meaning we might as well be playing all as VT's vs. scum. People taking a back seat should be looked at more. And those who were lynched, who was on there scum list/who did they suspect. What about those killed by scum. Who was on there's/who did they suspect? Nobody has mentioned or cared.

 

And believe it or not brewers last post looked the most townish all game.

 

The main thing on tw, besides now a lurking alligation, is he's been on both wagons that's lynched a town.

 

Rafay....he just gots to take a stand somewhere. Not voting on either and too little to late dosent help anybody except scum. Who do you suspect, who do you not. Hell vote for me if you can't really think of someone. Just do something.

 

 

 

All that's left are TW and Rafay. Fact that both MK and Finster pushed for Rafay indicates he might be town. TW on the other hand has too little activity and always comes late, to get a feeling about him. 

 

Keep in mind that I casted the lynching vote for Wolfpacks (a now known town) ~20-25 minutes before the deadline yesterday. Had I not voted for Wolfpacks or opted to vote for someone else, the day would have ended without a lynch and we would have even less to work with today than we did yesterday. We were ultimately wrong but I figured no lynch wasn't an option. No matter what Wolfpacks' alignment ended up being we would at least have something else to examine today. If I was scum I wouldn't have done that for town and make myself look bad when I cast the deciding vote in the lynching of a townie. I would have been perfectly happy with nothing happening yesterday.

 

This is correct, though I think, it's a bit more complicated. Town has put itself in a bad spot, creating a situation, where 20 minutes before deadline there were just 2 options, lynch WP or no lynch. So whomever came and hammer that wagon, be it town or scum, could have made a valid justification, that it's better to lynch a suspect than not to lynch anyone at all (and for scum lynching townie without consequences is better than not lynching at all).

 

That being said, hammering is always risky and not something scum would like to do. So for me it's not something that would put you on a scum list, but still not enough to get you on the town side.

The main thing on tw, besides now a lurking alligation, is he's been on both wagons that's lynched a town.

 

A lurking allegation? Lol. I was catching up on the thread when I had time between work calls. Looking at the thread one time without posting hardly classifies as lurking.

 

As far as voting goes, yes I voted to lynch both Tony and Wolfpacks. Me voting for Tony shouldn't shock anyone. I literally pushed him almost the entirety of day 2 and day 3 after he cast two careless no lynch votes. Not exactly a good scum play to ride someone so hard for two days who I would've known was town and would certainly reflect poorly on me when he was lynched and revealed as town. My vote for Wolfpacks was because 1) He could have been scum and 2) Even if he wasn't scum, which we now know, we would at least have more to look at today. Neither of those actions are indicative of scum behavior. Both of them could have been avoided and nobody would have batted an eye.

 

 

Don't read too much into it. I hopped into the thread to quickly catch up in between work calls. I didn't have enough time to reply to anything. I just wanted to stay caught up.

 

if you end up being scum and use RL as a cover for your play I am going to drive down to St Louis and punch you in the dick 

 

 

The JOAT's aren't going to claim unless the get a guilty result.

 

 

the joats dont have a cop ability so they cant get a guilty result

 

Don't read too much into it. I hopped into the thread to quickly catch up in between work calls. I didn't have enough time to reply to anything. I just wanted to stay caught up.

 

if you end up being scum and use RL as a cover for your play I am going to drive down to St Louis and punch you in the dick 

 

 

Come at me, bro. I owe you a good beating anyway.

 

 

Don't read too much into it. I hopped into the thread to quickly catch up in between work calls. I didn't have enough time to reply to anything. I just wanted to stay caught up.

 

if you end up being scum and use RL as a cover for your play I am going to drive down to St Louis and punch you in the dick 

 

 

Come at me, bro. I owe you a good beating anyway.

 

so youre admitting its a cover then? 

 

 

 

Don't read too much into it. I hopped into the thread to quickly catch up in between work calls. I didn't have enough time to reply to anything. I just wanted to stay caught up.

if you end up being scum and use RL as a cover for your play I am going to drive down to St Louis and punch you in the dick

Come at me, bro. I owe you a good beating anyway.

What’d he do before to earn himself a beating from you?

Also why are you threatening to beat each other, just get into a firefight in my game

Does one even need a reason to want to beat Brewers?

 

Anyway, returning to previous question, no it’s not a cover. I’ve legitimately been swamped in just about all aspects of life for the last two months. There’s a lot going on.

 

What happened to our boy Rafay btw after he tried to vote late for WP?

I wish I knew where Rafay was.

 

He'll come in here and bluster about and not give us any help.  I'm convinced he's scum this game.  This is why I voted for him, and, barring a convincing better target, will likely continue to vote for him.

Vote Count:

Ferastical (1): brewersalliance,
brewersalliance (1): Robert2424,
Lord MK (0):
Lyner (0):
Ali bin Turban (0):  
Rafay (0):  
Finster Baby (0):
The Warrior (0):
Robert2424 (0):  
Velocity (0):

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Rafay, Ali bin Turban, Ferastical, Velocity, The Warrior, Lyner, Lord MK, Finster Baby,

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Tuesday, September 22 at 12:00 EDT.
 

 

The main thing on tw, besides now a lurking alligation, is he's been on both wagons that's lynched a town.

 

A lurking allegation? Lol. I was catching up on the thread when I had time between work calls. Looking at the thread one time without posting hardly classifies as lurking.

 

As far as voting goes, yes I voted to lynch both Tony and Wolfpacks. Me voting for Tony shouldn't shock anyone. I literally pushed him almost the entirety of day 2 and day 3 after he cast two careless no lynch votes. Not exactly a good scum play to ride someone so hard for two days who I would've known was town and would certainly reflect poorly on me when he was lynched and revealed as town. My vote for Wolfpacks was because 1) He could have been scum and 2) Even if he wasn't scum, which we now know, we would at least have more to look at today. Neither of those actions are indicative of scum behavior. Both of them could have been avoided and nobody would have batted an eye.

 

 

That's the definition of lurking....It was done by Brewers. more often then not it's a scum tell. But isn't a for sure thing and I was just stating that you were. I understand each of your reasons before you repeated them. I'm just being objective thats the only thing I can say about you. You've been a true neutral. Sure, I can pick out Lyner, or somebody else being aggressive towards somebody, but you riding the line that its like impossible to truely judge you. 

 

Don't read too much into it. I hopped into the thread to quickly catch up in between work calls. I didn't have enough time to reply to anything. I just wanted to stay caught up.

 

if you end up being scum and use RL as a cover for your play I am going to drive down to St Louis and punch you in the dick 

 

 

I Feel this is touting the line of not bring outside influences in. Lets not threaten to punch people in the dick. Please? or TW beating up Brewers. 

 

The JOAT's aren't going to claim unless the get a guilty result.

 

 

the joats dont have a cop ability so they cant get a guilty result

 

Then I don't feel they will ever claim. 

That's a lot of posts to read up on.

Yesterday was bustling here.

 

So AbT.

That comment about Brewers name order directed at ferastical.

I didn't do that to sow discord.

I was trolling there.

Jeez, don't read that much into it.

 

Where's Rafay?

Haven't seen him in the other game either.

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Also how can you punch someone in the dick?

Kicking?

Sure.

Vote: MK

So AbT. That comment about Brewers name order directed at ferastical. I didn't do that to sow discord. I was trolling there. Jeez, don't read that much into it.

 

That's the point. Ferastical and Brewers are in the conflict right now and you're trying to keep those animosities. But since you say you didn't meant to harm town, it's fine then. You would never lie, would you? 

 

Such scummy trolling is hardly helpful for a town and I'm pretty sure it would get you instantly lynched outside of this forums. Why should we accept plays that are detrimental to the town? 

 

Also

 

Vote: MK

 

That's a crazy wall of text. I'm willing to vote on MK myself but you lost me with your elaborate arguments. 

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Also how can you punch someone in the dick?

Kicking?

Sure.

Apparently you've never seen Mortal Kombat or Bruce lee punch somebody in the balls before. 

 

 

 

But in all seriousness, I'm hoping Rafay comes out by this weekend. 

 

But if nobody going to be willing to go over to brewers, I'll probably switch over to MK. 

Lol.

That's punching the balls.

Not the dick.

 

 

Vote: MK

 

That's a crazy wall of text. I'm willing to vote on MK myself but you lost me with your elaborate arguments. 

 

I already said my piece 

WARNING: Wall of text, mostly quotes though.

Here is why I'm sticking with Rafay.

 

Tony Maurice (7): brewersalliance, Lord MK, Finster Baby, Ferastical, ghaws, The Warrior, Tony Maurice,

 
Well well well. Looking forward to 7 explanations.
 
We're lucky that the mafia are either incompetent or someone successfully blocked.

 

Here we go with his accusations of those who voted for Tony Maurice on D3. It was quite clear why everyone who voted for Tony did so. Yes its not good that TM came up town, but with not much to go on and TMs actions it was a good play.
 
 

 

 

Tony Maurice (7): brewersalliance, Lord MK, Finster Baby, Ferastical, ghaws, The Warrior, Tony Maurice,

 
Well well well. Looking forward to 7 explanations.
 
We're lucky that the mafia are either incompetent or someone successfully blocked.

 

Not Voting: Velocity, Rafay, Wolfpacks,

How about you start on why you felt you didn't need to vote???

My guess is one of the JOATs guessed correctly last night. Good show, we needed that.

 

I asked why he didn't vote at all.
 

First of all I am not going to provide an "excuse" because only wrong doers make "excuses".
 
My "reasoning" is that I didn't think he was guilty so I didn't feel the need to lynch out a townie unlike you 7 trigger happy murderers.

Now I don't recall anyone asking him for an excuse, just an explanation.  Paranoid much? Scared you might be outed? Plus a shot at the TM bandwagon? What gives here?
 

Ding ding looks like we're on to something. Why so angry MK. I didn't accuse you yet...

Looks like a deflection post to me. Just my observation. 
 

Why am I being tried for NOT KILLING AN INNOCENT FELLA???

 
 

 

Why am I being tried for NOT KILLING AN INNOCENT FELLA???

youre not being asked questions for not voting for tony.  youre being asked questions for not voting at all for anyone

 

Brewers got it 100% right here.  
 

 

youre being asked questions for not voting at all for anyone

 
AS I've  explained b4 I don't have a read on any1 yet....

 

It was D4 at the time. We all should have some sort of read on everyone. Right now, my read on you is 100% scum.

 

 

Rafay is second, basically because he didn't vote and his reasoning is rather weak.

I have no words.

 

Which is exactly why you're on my list.

 

And you haven't posted AT all since this last post. That was 6 days ago, although there was a night in between there.  No opinion at all about the WP mis-lynch. No words at all about my continued suspicion about you. No words AT ALL.

I believe you're lurking because you know you're scum and you know that opening your mouth will only shine harsher light upon you.

GOAT my ass.

VOTE: Rafay

In addition, I FOS Ferestical based on what has been posted by a couple of other people and actions over D4. The last scum I have less of a read on. Could be AbT. Could be Brewers. Could be MK. (Note, that's not my best to least possibilites, just who I'm looking at.)

He been very quiet, witch I've said, I'm giving him to essentially till after the Bronco's game to do something or he's going to be right up with MK and Brewers. 

The votes are all over the place today lol we aren't going to get anywhere like this