Mad17
Mimicking Season 6 of the Mafia Championship
Setup: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/21905-Season-6-General-Information "Season 6 Setup & Mechanics"
13x Town
4x Mafia
 
Of the following 18 roles, 1 will randomly be discarded and the other 17 will be assigned at random to one player in the game without regard for the player's alignment.
Each role is restricted to using its action only on the nights listed on the chart.
The Mafia will be told which role is not present in the game.

Role   Acts On These Nights   Modifier

• Watcher n1 Only Macho
• Watcher n2 Only
• Alignment Cop n2 Only 1x Ninja
• Alignment Cop n3 Only 1x Ninja
• Vigilante n2 Only
• Vigilante n3 Only
• Doctor n1, n3
• Doctor n2, n4
• Tracker n1, n3 1x Strongman
• Tracker n2, n4 1x Strongman
• Jailkeeper n1, n3
• Jailkeeper n2, n4
• Roleblocker n1, n3
• Roleblocker n2, n4
• Role Cop n1, n2, n3 1x Strongman
• Jack of All Trades (Role Cop, Tracker, Roleblocker) n1, n2, n3
• Jack of All Trades (Doctor, Jailkeeper, Voyeur) n1, n2, n3
• Voyeur n1, n2, n3, n4 1x Strongman

MECHANICS

• Role reveals at death are alignment only. You will not learn a player's exact role when they die.
• Usage of night actions is optional, but unused actions will be lost.
• Town wins when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
• Mafia factions win when they achieve Parity and all other evil factions have been eliminated at any time.
• Votes are automatically locked in at LYLO.
• No Lynching is enabled. Vote for No Lynch to forgo a lynch that Day.
• Mafia factional kills are optional. Mafia may submit a factional kill each night, but are not required to. However, starting night 5, the factional kill will be mandatory.
• Mafia factional kills are assigned. They can be tracked, watched, or roleblocked.
• Mafia share a factional Night Kill, which is a single standard shot for their faction.
• Mafia members may perform the faction kill in addition to their regular action at the same time.
• Mafia may communicate at any time.
• Tied votes will result in a player being lynched at random from among the tied players. Ties can't occur.

Lilweirdward, townie, killed Night 1

Robert2424, townie, killed Night 2

Torres951, mafia, lynched Day 3

Lord MK, townie, killed Night 3

The Warrior, townie, killed Night 3

Finster Baby, townie, lynched Day 4

Rafay, mafia, lynched Day 5
Kaziocore, townie, killed Night 5
Dontavian, townie, killed Night 6
Velocity, townie, lynched Day 7
Chaplain of death, townie, killed Night 7

Wolfpacks, townie, lynched Day 8

Ali bin Turban Captainjf, townie
Brewersalliance, mafia
Ferastical, townie
Lyner, mafia
Tony Maurice, townie

 Seeing as we have 12 DAYS left, I don't really feel rushed to vote on anyone.

Agree with Ferastical on this...

LWW

This is one of those situations where I really wish AbT was active and around, since he would at least help tally up the numbers and provide some good probabilities, which would make me feel better about either approach.

@Kevin, has AbT answered his role PM or acknowledged that he’s playing this game?

Lynch lww, the guy advocating for town forfeiting their most important power.

He wants to take out votes away.

He wants to take our voices away.

 

Lynch him and say no to authoritarianism.

abt was replaced in the other game and my game.  both he said he was not going to be able to play

 

i doubt he is going to be able to play this game

 

do we have a potential replacement?

Politics a great way to spoil the mood

 

I mean that's why I didn't want to turn it into a full political argument. Brewers threw a lil' jab so I did too, not sure why MK is stuck on it lol. 

 

 

Politics a great way to spoil the mood

I mean that's why I didn't want to turn it into a full political argument. Brewers threw a lil' jab so I did too, not sure why MK is stuck on it lol.

Oo, i sense a bit of butthurt in there, but ah, whatever.

 

 

Politics a great way to spoil the mood

I mean that's why I didn't want to turn it into a full political argument. Brewers threw a lil' jab so I did too, not sure why MK is stuck on it lol.

Oo, i sense a bit of butthurt in there, but ah, whatever.

 

 

 

The only butthurt I can see is yours so far but mkay lol. 

 

 

 

 

Politics a great way to spoil the mood

I mean that's why I didn't want to turn it into a full political argument. Brewers threw a lil' jab so I did too, not sure why MK is stuck on it lol.

Oo, i sense a bit of butthurt in there, but ah, whatever.

 

The only butthurt I can see is yours so far but mkay lol.

Yes, i was wondering when we will be starting to get to personal attacks.

Since you did, i guess i won.

 

Yes, i was wondering when we will be starting to get to personal attacks.

Since you did, i guess i won.

 

 

lolwut? You accuse me of being butthurt to which I reply 'NO U' (which lol come on I can do better than that but I really am trying to shut this stupid side conversation down but you just won't let it die) and somehow I am the one resorting to "personal attacks"?  Road2Delusions.

Okay lets be honest, me rising to every bait isn't letting it die either 

Okay lets be honest, me rising to every bait isn't letting it die either

After we get into the R2D territory I usually just stop acknowledging it, usually works.

Vote Count

Lilweirdward (4): Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance, Finster Baby,
Brewersalliance (3): Robert2424, Rafay, Chaplain of death,
Robert2424 (1): Tony Maurice,
Rafay (1): Kaziocore,
The Warrior (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Ali bin Turban
Chaplain of death
Dontavian
Ferastical
Finster Baby
Lord MK
Lyner
Tony Maurice
Torres951
Velocity
Wolfpacks

No Lynch (2): Lilweirdward, Wolfpacks,

Not voting: Ali bin Turban, Dontavian, Ferastical, Lyner, The Warrior, Velocity,

 
With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
There is not a deadline half-majority lynch.
Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, December 30 at 17:00 EST

Ali bin Turban has not read his PM yet. I'll post for a replacement.

I feel politics should be left out of mafia. It has no bearing on the game at all. 

The best way to solve this issue is vote Robert for president in 2424 and he will stop,the establishment

Sorry for being inactive, we're always busy here during the holidays.

 

And I agree with Robert. Let's avoid talking about politics to avoid spamming the game and besides, not everyone is from the US

 

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I 100% disagree with no lynching as it gives a free pass for the mafia for D1 and we won't have wagons to analyze the next day. To even consider no lynching more than a day is very suspicious

 

Anyway my vote stays with Rafay because it felt like he was just posting to appear active.

 

He noted that Lyner uncharacteristically supported No Lynch on D1 but didn't act on it like for say voting for him. He didn't even give an opinion regarding Lilweirdward and brewer's debate.

and even if you say oops, you forgot the scum get four of those roles, you still have no idea what those roles are. you are therefor relying on a couple things: the RNG workts out in the towns favor and the town players will randomly guess the scum players with their actions if we just vote no lynvh every day, no one will have a single reason for who they pick for their actions other than guessing. so the game will come down to pure dumb luck if town manages to miss scum with their actions and we no lynch every single day scum will have a HUGE edge. we will have nothing to go off for future days, and we will have three dead townies and no idea who might or might not be scum, and then we will also have no more actions that can be done. this is a terrible strategy IMO and as to me, it relies solely on pure luck. And when you factor in how poor the strategy is with you competently leaving out the fact that scum get 4 of the roles and 1 is discarded while making it look like town has more abilities than they really do, i think there is a chance you are scum and were trying to come up with a strategy that appears pro town when in reality it is not pro town. and it seemed to have worked at first, as we did get someone to post saying they think you are town because of this. but when you actually dig into the strategy, it is not pro town, and it is filled with inaccuracies/misinformation about the distribution of roles

To be honest I also didn't know that the mafia can also get the random roles lol

 

But yeah in the worst case, there would only be 4 town players with actions tomorrow (if 4 mafia players have all the roles and 1 out of 5 town players with abilities gets killed) and these players won't necessarily have an informed opinion on who to vote tomorrow

Yes that's true.

We can't really depend on the PRs that much

 

 

  especially on a first date.  nothing will get you in her pants quicker than talking about God, Guns, and Donald Trump 

 

lmao what if shes an AOC supporter tho? 

 

Unvote

 

Vote: LWW

Rafay is ignoring me FeelsWeirdMan

I 100% disagree with no lynching as it gives a free pass for the mafia for D1 and we won't have wagons to analyze the next day. To even consider no lynching more than a day is very suspicious

 

I'll argue for this one more time and then give it up since I can't convince everyone on my own lol.

 

Normally I agree, lynching gives us vote patterns which is generally the most reliable source of information we can use as town to find scum. Even in games with useful town roles or closed role madness games I usually advocate for lynching D1 (and obviously beyond) since it's too risky to depend on a few roles or a bunch of unknowns to pull through.

 

In this game though, we have two important factors:

 

1) Literally every single player has a power role, and the vast majority of those roles are pretty much only useful to town in this specific setup. With 17 players and 13 town, that's A LOT of information, and with an open setup, we know with relatively high certainty what to expect (other than which roles mafia got and which role is missing).

 

2) All of those roles become useless after N4, and most are useless after N3. This is why I've been saying that cop or tracking roles aren't useful for mafia in this specific game, since they really only have 2 nights to make any use of the information at all, assuming they aren't blocked/jailed/etc. Similarly once we get past that point, the game gets WAY harder for town since the whole game basically goes vanilla, and whatever information we have up to that point is all we get aside from lynched and NKs.

 

That's why I think it's at least worth considering no lynching for a few days. If we maximize the players alive and information available when the game goes vanilla, we might have the best chance to win the game since it seems extremely unlikely that we couldn't figure out the scum with all those results and 3.5 days to get it right. We could always ignore the setup and just play a normal game, but it's at least worth analyzing since it's an open setup, right? It's ok to take a non traditional approach if it works, which it arguably did in the last championship setup game we did here.

 

 

especially on a first date. nothing will get you in her pants quicker than talking about God, Guns, and Donald Trump

lmao what if shes an AOC supporter tho?

 

Unvote

 

Vote: LWW

Completely ignoring Kazio and voting me without any reason? Interesting.

 

especially on a first date. nothing will get you in her pants quicker than talking about God, Guns, and Donald Trump

lmao what if shes an AOC supporter tho? [/b]

Well, then she got good taste.

AOC for 2024.

 

 

lmao what if shes an AOC supporter tho? 

 

 

LOL she actually does support aoc.  shes a hard core liberal ;p

 

 

 

I'll argue for this one more time and then give it up since I can't convince everyone on my own lol.

 

because its a bad idea lol 

 

 

Rafay is ignoring me FeelsWeirdMan

 

No I'm not ol chum. I'm sorry it felt that way to you. Welcome back.

Rafay is ignoring me FeelsWeirdMan

 

Feels nostalgic to me. Rafay usually ignored me lol.

Vote: Kaziocore for being party pooper 

Vote Count

Lilweirdward (5): Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance, Finster Baby, Rafay,
Brewersalliance (2): Robert2424, Chaplain of death,
Robert2424 (1): Tony Maurice,
Rafay (1): Kaziocore,
Kaziocore (1): Lyner,
The Warrior (0):
Ali bin Turban
Chaplain of death
Dontavian
Ferastical
Finster Baby
Lord MK
Lyner
Tony Maurice
Torres951
Velocity
Wolfpacks

No Lynch (2): Lilweirdward, Wolfpacks,

Not voting: Ali bin Turban, Dontavian, Ferastical, The Warrior, Velocity,

 
With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
There is not a deadline half-majority lynch.
Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, December 30 at 17:00 EST