Do I know you kekw

Nope lol but you're something of a legend around here, so I figured I'd take my first chance to vote for you.

 

Unvote

 

Also I feel like I only ever get votes piled on me randomly when I'm actually mafia, so it's kind of nice that it's happening now when I'm just a townie. I don't think mislynching me will do much except make the game less active though.

 

What is all this?

 

VOTE: TW

 

So he can go start the Harry Potter game.

Lol it's not happening. If we're gonna vote him out it should be because he'll be inactive until the very end when he can just demolish us, although voting out the best players because they're good is generally not a fair strategy.

I'm here and I will start the HP game at some point. So screw you guys.

I'm here and I will start the HP game at some point. So screw you guys.

Well we got his attention.

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE:  LWW

 

Because why not.

 

 

Also I feel like I only ever get votes piled on me randomly when I'm actually mafia, so it's kind of nice that it's happening now when I'm just a townie. I don't think mislynching me will do much except make the game less active though.

This feels a little sus 

 

What is all this?

 

VOTE: TW

 

So he can go start the Harry Potter game.

Lol never gonna happen

Unvote

 

Vote lww

 

He's a liberal. So he needs to be voted out

 

 

Unvote

 

Vote: Brewers

 

Vote out the facist!        You know, like the U.S. just did.   

If we're gonna vote him out it should be because he'll be inactive until the very end when he can just demolish us, although voting out the best players because they're good is generally not a fair strategy.

Demolish us?

Aka the scum team

 

 

Now if you recall call brewer's game

Lww had a similar slip of tongue, when he said he will help rafay kill Finster again.

 

That's happening here again.

 

Vote: Lww

.

 

I'm here and I will start the HP game at some point. So screw you guys.

"Some point"

Aka not happening.

Vote out the facist! You know, like the U.S. just did.

If you think trump is a fascist, then i recommend you get a thesaurus.

 

If we're gonna vote him out it should be because he'll be inactive until the very end when he can just demolish us, although voting out the best players because they're good is generally not a fair strategy.

Demolish us?

Aka the scum team

 

 

Now if you recall call brewer's game

Lww had a similar slip of tongue, when he said he will help rafay kill Finster again.

 

That's happening here again.

 

Vote: Lww

Stupid reads like this get on my nerves so much. I'm obviously referencing the multiple recent games that TW has been scum but not been around much except to make a bunch of "I'm busy and will analyze this later" comments, only to come up with an absolutely brilliant story at the end of the game that is hard to disprove in any circumstance, much less when he's hardly been around, and then easily beats town. I know you know this, and trying to spin it as me "slipping up" is honestly a bit suspicious to me.

 

I'm town and would obviously prefer not to get lynched since I have an actual useful role, but if this is gonna be a game where people just assume everything I say is scummy for no reason then so be it. Just everyone make sure you pay attention to how people explain their votes for me, and especially who doesn't join in since they'll know I'm town and might not want to be on record lynching a townie this early on.

You are reacting way too aggressively for someone who claims to be town.

 

So this might be really interesting.

I think we got a viable d1 lynch target, guys.

You are reacting way too aggressively for someone who claims to be town.

 

So this might be really interesting.

I think we got a viable d1 lynch target, guys.

It may be because you act extremely aggressive towards almost everyone in general.

 

On everything else, I’m not a huge fan of throwing votes just to throw them, so unless something shows up I will hold my vote for a while.

 

 

If we're gonna vote him out it should be because he'll be inactive until the very end when he can just demolish us, although voting out the best players because they're good is generally not a fair strategy.

Demolish us?

Aka the scum team

 

 

Now if you recall call brewer's game

Lww had a similar slip of tongue, when he said he will help rafay kill Finster again.

 

That's happening here again.

 

Vote: Lww

Stupid reads like this get on my nerves so much. I'm obviously referencing the multiple recent games that TW has been scum but not been around much except to make a bunch of "I'm busy and will analyze this later" comments, only to come up with an absolutely brilliant story at the end of the game that is hard to disprove in any circumstance, much less when he's hardly been around, and then easily beats town. I know you know this, and trying to spin it as me "slipping up" is honestly a bit suspicious to me.

 

I'm town and would obviously prefer not to get lynched since I have an actual useful role, but if this is gonna be a game where people just assume everything I say is scummy for no reason then so be it. Just everyone make sure you pay attention to how people explain their votes for me, and especially who doesn't join in since they'll know I'm town and might not want to be on record lynching a townie this early on.

This is neither here nor there in relation to this game but you make it sound like I was scum in every game for the last 5 games or something.

 

In the last 7 games I was scum twice. Granted, I also won as scum twice (1 mafia, 1 SK). However, I also won as town twice. And the last two games I was active for the entirety of the games.

 

 

 

If we're gonna vote him out it should be because he'll be inactive until the very end when he can just demolish us, although voting out the best players because they're good is generally not a fair strategy.

Demolish us?

Aka the scum team

 

 

Now if you recall call brewer's game

Lww had a similar slip of tongue, when he said he will help rafay kill Finster again.

 

That's happening here again.

 

Vote: Lww

Stupid reads like this get on my nerves so much. I'm obviously referencing the multiple recent games that TW has been scum but not been around much except to make a bunch of "I'm busy and will analyze this later" comments, only to come up with an absolutely brilliant story at the end of the game that is hard to disprove in any circumstance, much less when he's hardly been around, and then easily beats town. I know you know this, and trying to spin it as me "slipping up" is honestly a bit suspicious to me.

 

I'm town and would obviously prefer not to get lynched since I have an actual useful role, but if this is gonna be a game where people just assume everything I say is scummy for no reason then so be it. Just everyone make sure you pay attention to how people explain their votes for me, and especially who doesn't join in since they'll know I'm town and might not want to be on record lynching a townie this early on.

This is neither here nor there in relation to this game but you make it sound like I was scum in every game for the last 5 games or something.

 

In the last 7 games I was scum twice. Granted, I also won as scum twice (1 mafia, 1 SK). However, I also won as town twice. And the last two games I was active for the entirety of the games.

Three times* you were also scum with Finster in my GoT game when he recruited you lol

This is neither here nor there in relation to this game but you make it sound like I was scum in every game for the last 5 games or something.

 

In the last 7 games I was scum twice. Granted, I also won as scum twice (1 mafia, 1 SK). However, I also won as town twice. And the last two games I was active for the entirety of the games.

Yeah you have been more active lately, it's mostly just a meme I'm recycling from a few games ago where you'd actually won a game as scum in part by not really being around until the end, and then brewers spent like half a game saying he'd kick you in the balls if you were doing it again lol.

 

This is neither here nor there in relation to this game but you make it sound like I was scum in every game for the last 5 games or something.

 

In the last 7 games I was scum twice. Granted, I also won as scum twice (1 mafia, 1 SK). However, I also won as town twice. And the last two games I was active for the entirety of the games.

Yeah you have been more active lately, it's mostly just a meme I'm recycling from a few games ago where you'd actually won a game as scum in part by not really being around until the end, and then brewers spent like half a game saying he'd kick you in the balls if you were doing it again lol.

That's right I'm supposed to kick TW in the balls.

So I've been thinking, and maybe we should No Lynch for a few days in this game. Literally everyone is some sort of PR, and not a single role will have abilities after N4. This will make D5 onward a huge advantage for scum, and the less information that town can have going into that day, the better for them. Mislynching townies will 100% rob us of some sort of information that we could use in the end game, so I would think that the goal is to have as many players alive in D5 as possible so we can lay our cards on the table and try to nail down scum with the information we have.

 

As a reminder, these are the roles:

 

Watcher n1 Only Macho

Watcher n2 Only

Alignment Cop n2 Only 1x Ninja

Alignment Cop n3 Only 1x Ninja

Vigilante n2 Only

Vigilante n3 Only

Doctor n1, n3

Doctor n2, n4

Tracker n1, n3 1x Strongman

Tracker n2, n4 1x Strongman

Jailkeeper n1, n3

Jailkeeper n2, n4

Roleblocker n1, n3

Roleblocker n2, n4

Role Cop n1, n2, n3 1x Strongman

Jack of All Trades (Role Cop, Tracker, Roleblocker) n1, n2, n3

Jack of All Trades (Doctor, Jailkeeper, Voyeur) n1, n2, n3

Voyeur n1, n2, n3, n4 1x Strongman

 

Which means the pattern of information gathering will look like below. By D3 we'll still have up to 13 players that have actions left to take, with 9 of them taking their final action the next night.

 

N1: 9 actions, D2: 16/17 players with actions left

N2: 11 actions, D3: 13/17 players with actions left

N3: 10 actions, D4: 4/17 players with actions left

N4: 5 actions, D5: 0/17 players with actions left

 

If we No Lynch through the first three days, at max we should only lose 3 players (potentially fewer if any of the several protective roles stop a NK), and still have 10 town alive to play against 4 mafia with nearly all of its available information collected. If we mislynch every day (which would be unlucky but is obviously possible), we could get to D4 with only 7 town alive to 4 mafia and almost no information left to gather, plus everything lost from the townies that were dead.

 

So, for the time being:

 

Vote: No Lynch

 

If someone has a counter argument I'm all ears, but I think this might give town the best shot to win the game.

 

You are reacting way too aggressively for someone who claims to be town.

 

So this might be really interesting.

I think we got a viable d1 lynch target, guys.

It may be because you act extremely aggressive towards almost everyone in general.

Yes, i do act that way.

But i don't react differently in specific situations.

He is acting all chill when someone else is being accused or voted upon.

But suddenly turns volatile, after a couple of votes pile on him.

 

If we're gonna vote him out it should be because he'll be inactive until the very end when he can just demolish us, although voting out the best players because they're good is generally not a fair strategy.

Demolish us?

Aka the scum team

 

 

Now if you recall call brewer's game

Lww had a similar slip of tongue, when he said he will help rafay kill Finster again.

 

That's happening here again.

 

Vote: Lww

.

 

I'm here and I will start the HP game at some point. So screw you guys.

"Some point"

Aka not happening.

Vote out the facist! You know, like the U.S. just did.

If you think trump is a fascist, then i recommend you get a thesaurus.

 

 

Do you prefer Autocrat? or the classic, Tyrant? You did ask for a thesaurus.

 

 

 

If we're gonna vote him out it should be because he'll be inactive until the very end when he can just demolish us, although voting out the best players because they're good is generally not a fair strategy.

Demolish us?

Aka the scum team

 

 

Now if you recall call brewer's game

Lww had a similar slip of tongue, when he said he will help rafay kill Finster again.

 

That's happening here again.

 

Vote: Lww

.

 

I'm here and I will start the HP game at some point. So screw you guys.

"Some point"

Aka not happening.

Vote out the facist! You know, like the U.S. just did.

If you think trump is a fascist, then i recommend you get a thesaurus.

Do you prefer Autocrat? or the classic, Tyrant? You did ask for a thesaurus.

I prefer small words I can understand

So I've been thinking, and maybe we should No Lynch for a few days in this game. Literally everyone is some sort of PR, and not a single role will have abilities after N4. This will make D5 onward a huge advantage for scum, and the less information that town can have going into that day, the better for them. Mislynching townies will 100% rob us of some sort of information that we could use in the end game, so I would think that the goal is to have as many players alive in D5 as possible so we can lay our cards on the table and try to nail down scum with the information we have.

 

As a reminder, these are the roles:

 

Watcher n1 Only Macho

Watcher n2 Only

Alignment Cop n2 Only 1x Ninja

Alignment Cop n3 Only 1x Ninja

Vigilante n2 Only

Vigilante n3 Only

Doctor n1, n3

Doctor n2, n4

Tracker n1, n3 1x Strongman

Tracker n2, n4 1x Strongman

Jailkeeper n1, n3

Jailkeeper n2, n4

Roleblocker n1, n3

Roleblocker n2, n4

Role Cop n1, n2, n3 1x Strongman

Jack of All Trades (Role Cop, Tracker, Roleblocker) n1, n2, n3

Jack of All Trades (Doctor, Jailkeeper, Voyeur) n1, n2, n3

Voyeur n1, n2, n3, n4 1x Strongman

Which means the pattern of information gathering will look like below. By D3 we'll still have up to 13 players that have actions left to take, with 9 of them taking their final action the next night.

 

N1: 9 actions, D2: 16/17 players with actions left

N2: 11 actions, D3: 13/17 players with actions left

N3: 10 actions, D4: 4/17 players with actions left

N4: 5 actions, D5: 0/17 players with actions left

 

If we No Lynch through the first three days, at max we should only lose 3 players (potentially fewer if any of the several protective roles stop a NK), and still have 10 town alive to play against 4 mafia with nearly all of its available information collected. If we mislynch every day (which would be unlucky but is obviously possible), we could get to D4 with only 7 town alive to 4 mafia and almost no information left to gather, plus everything lost from the townies that were dead.

 

So, for the time being:

 

Vote: No Lynch

 

If someone has a counter argument I'm all ears, but I think this might give town the best shot to win the game.

 

Haven’t QCd the math but this makes sense... also seems like a very Town-centered suggestion on LWWs part

 

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

There is not a deadline half-majority lynch.

Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, December 30 at 17:00 EST

And we have almost 2 weeks before deadline, so no hurry to lynch

 

 

 

 

If we're gonna vote him out it should be because he'll be inactive until the very end when he can just demolish us, although voting out the best players because they're good is generally not a fair strategy.

Demolish us?

Aka the scum team

 

 

Now if you recall call brewer's game

Lww had a similar slip of tongue, when he said he will help rafay kill Finster again.

 

That's happening here again.

 

Vote: Lww

.

 

I'm here and I will start the HP game at some point. So screw you guys.

"Some point"

Aka not happening.

Vote out the facist! You know, like the U.S. just did.

If you think trump is a fascist, then i recommend you get a thesaurus.

Do you prefer Autocrat? or the classic, Tyrant? You did ask for a thesaurus.

Now you are just pulling random words out of the bag.

 

Trump is like the opposite of tyranny, he's the popular candidate.

Sleepy Joe is the true Autocract.

Just like Obama was.

They are also pussies, having the most drone strikes in American history.

If you are going to attack a country, attack them face to face, not from the safe places of liberal California.

 

Cause no matter the flaws of Bush, he atleast sent actual troops, unlike the democrat snowflakes.

 

 

In the last 7 games I was scum twice. Granted, I also won as scum twice (1 mafia, 1 SK). However, I also won as town twice. And the last two games I was active for the entirety of the games.

 

Agreed. No matter what part he plays TheWarrior plays it with heart. He tries to be as active as possible. 

Since this is another championship setup, is there any stat & optimal strat?

 

So I've been thinking, and maybe we should No Lynch for a few days in this game. Literally everyone is some sort of PR, and not a single role will have abilities after N4. This will make D5 onward a huge advantage for scum, and the less information that town can have going into that day, the better for them. Mislynching townies will 100% rob us of some sort of information that we could use in the end game, so I would think that the goal is to have as many players alive in D5 as possible so we can lay our cards on the table and try to nail down scum with the information we have.

 

As a reminder, these are the roles:

 

Watcher n1 Only Macho

Watcher n2 Only

Alignment Cop n2 Only 1x Ninja

Alignment Cop n3 Only 1x Ninja

Vigilante n2 Only

Vigilante n3 Only

Doctor n1, n3

Doctor n2, n4

Tracker n1, n3 1x Strongman

Tracker n2, n4 1x Strongman

Jailkeeper n1, n3

Jailkeeper n2, n4

Roleblocker n1, n3

Roleblocker n2, n4

Role Cop n1, n2, n3 1x Strongman

Jack of All Trades (Role Cop, Tracker, Roleblocker) n1, n2, n3

Jack of All Trades (Doctor, Jailkeeper, Voyeur) n1, n2, n3

Voyeur n1, n2, n3, n4 1x Strongman

Which means the pattern of information gathering will look like below. By D3 we'll still have up to 13 players that have actions left to take, with 9 of them taking their final action the next night.

 

N1: 9 actions, D2: 16/17 players with actions left

N2: 11 actions, D3: 13/17 players with actions left

N3: 10 actions, D4: 4/17 players with actions left

N4: 5 actions, D5: 0/17 players with actions left

 

If we No Lynch through the first three days, at max we should only lose 3 players (potentially fewer if any of the several protective roles stop a NK), and still have 10 town alive to play against 4 mafia with nearly all of its available information collected. If we mislynch every day (which would be unlucky but is obviously possible), we could get to D4 with only 7 town alive to 4 mafia and almost no information left to gather, plus everything lost from the townies that were dead.

 

So, for the time being:

 

Vote: No Lynch

 

If someone has a counter argument I'm all ears, but I think this might give town the best shot to win the game.

 

Haven’t QCd the math but this makes sense... also seems like a very Town-centered suggestion on LWWs part

 

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

There is not a deadline half-majority lynch.

Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, December 30 at 17:00 EST

And we have almost 2 weeks before deadline, so no hurry to lynch

 

 

town wins by lynching scum.  no lynching through three days?  that will give town absolutely nothing to go off and we will be relying solely on luck, and scum not killing the PRs that can assist us.  I think this is a terrible idea.  no lynch is almost always stupid.  no lynch for three straight days?

 

can i vote twice for LWW?  lol

Did you even read my post or did you just stop at me suggesting a No Lynch? I said it gives us 1) the most people alive by the time most of everyone's actions are spent, and 2) the most information that we can just lay on the table since we'll all basically turn into VTs and have nothing to lose by just dropping everything we know to catch the scum.

 

Seriously, tell me why it's actually a bad idea (and not just "no lynch bad" since you did it twice in Kevin's last championship game). Unless you're mafia and would love to see us mislynch our way to a quick win.

Did you even read my post or did you just stop at me suggesting a No Lynch? I said it gives us 1) the most people alive by the time most of everyone's actions are spent, and 2) the most information that we can just lay on the table since we'll all basically turn into VTs and have nothing to lose by just dropping everything we know to catch the scum.

 

Seriously, tell me why it's actually a bad idea (and not just "no lynch bad" since you did it twice in Kevin's last championship game). Unless you're mafia and would love to see us mislynch our way to a quick win.

Or you are scum and don't want us to lynch your teammates, like we did in brewer's game

Normally I'd go no lynch first day but not sure if he still wants to play

 

VOTE ROBERT

 

 

Vote robert

 

Apathy.

Way to help increases my interest in mafia in general. Plus blitz voting me worked so well for you guys in the other game.