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[BA-11] A Dance with Dragons - SK Wins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZE9gVF1QbA

 

 

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Day 1 Start VOTE COUNT 1.1 VOTE COUNT 1.2 Vote Count 1.3 End of Day 1

Day 2 Start Vote Count 2.1  Vote Count 2.2 Vote Count 2.3 End of Day 2

Day 3 Start vote count 3.1 Vote Count 3.2 Vote Count 3.3 End of Day 3

Day 4 Start Vote Count 4.1

Rules

  • This game has a daystart
  • During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
  • If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
  • At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
  • If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, they will be put to a trial by combat against each other.
  • You may NOT vote no lynch. This is Game of Thrones. Valar Morghulis
  • If no player reaches a half majority by the deadline, the player with the highest vote count will be subject to a trial by combat. The god's will determine his/her guilt or innocence.
  • After the day, the game goes to night.
  • The game thread is closed during the night. Only mafia may speak to each other at night.
  • All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
  • The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
  • After the night, the game goes to day.
  • All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
  • Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
  • The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
  • Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
  • You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
  • When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.

ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IS REQUIRED.

  • ​All players are required to post a minimum 3 times per day. Any player who does not meet the reqired post counts will be subject to a mod kill. A mod kill and a lynch may both happen at my discretion. If multiple players do not meet the requirement, the one with the lowest post count will be killed.  Anyone mod killed for lack of participation WITHOUT a Valid excuses will no longer be allowed to play in my games.

Potential Roles:  Only the following roles may appear in this game.  

  • Vanilla Townie, Jack of all Trades, Cop, Tracker, Watcher, Neapolitan, Tracker, Gunsmith, Psychologist, Role Cop, Vanilla Cop, Bodyguard, Doctor, Jailor, PGO, Vengeful, Supersaint, Vigilante, Innocent Child, Friendly Neighbor, Fruit Vendor, Neighborizor, Commuter, Mason, Miller, Universal Backup, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Hider, Buss Driver, Tree Stump, Double Voter, Serial Killer, Arsonist, Goon, Tailor, Godfather, Lawyer
  • Role Modifiers may also be in play

if no one reaches deadline lynch, the trial by combat will be between whomever has the most votes and a random person who isnt voting.  therefore, if you dont vote you might die, and any player who goes more than two consecutive days without voting will be subject to a trial by combat as well.  not voting is an issue that seems to be plaguing several games now

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I mean he'll go to trial by combat if he's still tied for votes, and with how inactive everyone has been I don't know if I'd wait until the last minute to try to save myself.

This feels fishy to me, encouraging the vig to shoot a specific set of people before the day has even ended. I'm not saying you're scum because I still think it's far more likely that you're a miller as you've claimed, but this strategy would be hugely beneficial to scum if they aren't at least one of the two who haven't claimed.

Captain asked for advice about what to do yesterday. I’m offering advice for what to do today based off of what I believe is the correct course of action for the town. Captain can ultimately decide what he wants to do but I think the likelihood is that at least one of the mentioned people is scum.

I'm not saying it's suspicious that you gave him advice since I did that yesterday too, but telling a vig to kill one of two people before we even know how the game is gonna end is just a really convenient thing for scum to do if none of them turn out to be scum.

I'm leaning towards voting for COD right now for a couple reasons:

1) He was one of the people on my short list initially due to his questioning my role claim.

2) He seemed to come off pretty strong in his opposition to other people role claiming. It sort of seemed like someone who didn't want to see a bunch of role claims yet because he might have to.

3) He's been noticeably less active recently.

4) There is most likely two scum left and he's one of the remaining players that we know nothing about.

 

Now, I make these points with the following caveats:

1) It's everyone's job to question everything, including role claims..

and

2) Mass role claiming isn't allowed.

 

@Captain - If we do lynch one of the unknowns today (COD or Velocity) and they happen to be town, my suggestion would be to shoot the other at night. I would say we have Rafay investigate whichever lives but chances are he will be the scum's target tonight (unless they have a Godfather and aren't worried about letting the Cop live).

 

Just a little less invested in this one since I haven't had any info to work off of other than the role claims that we've got en masse which can be true or fake. Also hard to give a shit about the game when the integrity of the game is long since dead.

 

 

 

OOC: take care of yourself WP

Deadline is in two days and you are currently tied with two other people (me and Wolfpacks) for the vote lead. I’d say that if you get a second vote against you, you should go ahead and claim. Especially if it means you can confirm something for the town.

Ok...

 

VOTE: Velocity

You didn’t even shout it!

 

I’m going to spare the good captain the stress of shooting me.

 

I am Daario Naharis, the Commander of the Second Sons, and a Bodyguard

 

I was also informed that I am 1-shot bulletproof. I do not know if it has been used yet or not, but I haven’t been told and likely won’t be. I could swear it’s brewers messing with me, because I remarked before the roles for this game were sent out that he doesn’t use very many bulletproof roles.

 

N1 - I protected TW, as I wanted to see what his claim was, and if he’s town aligned he is always a good player to have.

 

N2 - I protected Rafay. Despite his blunder with the whole TW situation, I believe that he is the cop. The cop is always a good choice to protect.

 

I don’t have much more to share about my role, but to re-iterate I am a 1-shot bulletproof bodyguard. There’s also likely a scum role that gets around my ability, but I don’t know.

 

 

 

I suppose he was now the vote leader at 2 votes and there's a day plus change before deadline so its not as random as some of the others but so be it. I am now the only unclaimed player as I see it.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  

 

 

I am Daario Naharis, the Commander of the Second Sons, and a Bodyguard

 

I was also informed that I am 1-shot bulletproof. I do not know if it has been used yet or not, but I haven’t been told and likely won’t be. I could swear it’s brewers messing with me, because I remarked before the roles for this game were sent out that he doesn’t use very many bulletproof roles.

 

N1 - I protected TW, as I wanted to see what his claim was, and if he’s town aligned he is always a good player to have.

 

N2 - I protected Rafay. Despite his blunder with the whole TW situation, I believe that he is the cop. The cop is always a good choice to protect.

 

I don’t have much more to share about my role, but to re-iterate I am a 1-shot bulletproof bodyguard. There’s also likely a scum role that gets around my ability, but I don’t know.

Wait why would you protect TW? If he's Miller then scum would be complete morons to kill him, and if he's scum, then...yeah lol.

We didn’t know he was a miller until he claimed on D2, just some suspected iirc, and I wasn’t paying an incredible amount of attention on D1 since it was so early on, but I saw him say that he would “claim tomorrow.” I was already inclined to protect him, as I usually protect one of the much more active players in the early nights when we know little to nothing, so his talking like that got me to decide on him.

 

I suppose he was now the vote leader at 2 votes and there's a day plus change before deadline so its not as random as some of the others but so be it. I am now the only unclaimed player as I see it. :roll: :roll: :roll:

You don't really have any thoughts about his actual claim? Yes we get it, it's dumb that so many people have role claimed, but we're coming up on our last 24 hours of the day and we need to be serious. It's starting to feel like you're almost intentionally using the mass claiming situation as a way to avoid having to play, honestly.

 

 

Wait why would you protect TW? If he's Miller then scum would be complete morons to kill him, and if he's scum, then...yeah lol.

We didn’t know he was a miller until he claimed on D2, just some suspected iirc, and I wasn’t paying an incredible amount of attention on D1 since it was so early on, but I saw him say that he would “claim tomorrow.” I was already inclined to protect him, as I usually protect one of the much more active players in the early nights when we know little to nothing, so his talking like that got me to decide on him.

TW literally all but confirmed it on D1. Someone (I think Kevin actually) blurted out that he seemed to be claiming Miller, and TW basically said he wasn't wrong but he couldn't confirm just yet. Also I know you, and you do lurk, but you usually do pay attention to games too, so I don't know if I buy that you just weren't thinking and protected TW out of nowhere.

 

TYVM!

 

UNVOTE

Honestly this sequence of intentionally voting on Velocity just to get him to RC and then unvoting once you've got it is super suspicious to me. It's bad play if nothing else; now scum knows that he's a bodyguard if he is telling the truth, which doesn't help us as town.

 

 

Wait why would you protect TW? If he's Miller then scum would be complete morons to kill him, and if he's scum, then...yeah lol.

We didn’t know he was a miller until he claimed on D2, just some suspected iirc, and I wasn’t paying an incredible amount of attention on D1 since it was so early on, but I saw him say that he would “claim tomorrow.” I was already inclined to protect him, as I usually protect one of the much more active players in the early nights when we know little to nothing, so his talking like that got me to decide on him.
TW literally all but confirmed it on D1. Someone (I think Kevin actually) blurted out that he seemed to be claiming Miller, and TW basically said he wasn't wrong but he couldn't confirm just yet. Also I know you, and you do lurk, but you usually do pay attention to games too, so I don't know if I buy that you just weren't thinking and protected TW out of nowhere.

I do pay attention, but a lot less so on D1, unless I know something right off of the bat. TW is always one of my top choices to protect when I can regardless, as I already mentioned, since he is very active and a very good player to have on the town side. I honestly think I missed Kevin saying that he was a Miller on D1, becuase I just knew that he was going to claim and it seemed like it was something important.

 

TYVM!

 

UNVOTE

Honestly this sequence of intentionally voting on Velocity just to get him to RC and then unvoting once you've got it is super suspicious to me. It's bad play if nothing else; now scum knows that he's a bodyguard if he is telling the truth, which doesn't help us as town.

 

Basically, everything is suspicious to you. I guess that is one way to play the game.

Basically, everything is suspicious to you. I guess that is one way to play the game.

That's how the game works: you know nothing and should take everything with a grain of skepticism until you can confidently clear them. The only two people who I feel almost completely confident about are captain (claimed vig, shot mafia, pretty clear cut) and Rafay (outed himself D2 as cop just to tell everyone TW is guilty, which, lol), and everyone else I feel deserve varying degrees of suspicion until more evidence comes to light (TW probably the least, the others more so). If you don't want town to think you're suspicious, maybe don't do suspicious things like claiming VT for no reason or voting people just to get them to claim.

 

Basically, everything is suspicious to you. I guess that is one way to play the game.

That's how the game works: you know nothing and should take everything with a grain of skepticism until you can confidently clear them. The only two people who I feel almost completely confident about are captain (claimed vig, shot mafia, pretty clear cut) and Rafay (outed himself D2 as cop just to tell everyone TW is guilty, which, lol), and everyone else I feel deserve varying degrees of suspicion until more evidence comes to light (TW probably the least, the others more so). If you don't want town to think you're suspicious, maybe don't do suspicious things like claiming VT for no reason or voting people just to get them to claim.

 

Being careful isn’t a bad way to proceed.  WRT to me playing “suspiciously”... that’s likely attributable to me not following textbook tells as laid out in the Wiki Mafia Tome of Knowledge or whatever the hell that compendium is...which basically distills every possible response (or non response) down into somehow being scummy.  I gave my reasoning for RCing as VT, it’s just you’re not willing to accept it. And for the record...the veterans on this game have an abysmal record of identifying me as scummy, because of an unconventional play ( I used the wrong verb tense, or replied when I shouldn’t have or didn’t when I should have or...) , starting a wagon that results in my lynching, and I’ve been Town every time...which I declared prior to being lynched. With the exception of replacing Robert in brewers election game and getting lynched because of his record prior (being scum) and in TMs game with the 3 Jesters ( me being one with the goal of getting lynched) I have not been given scum roles. I did RC for cause, now you all know I’m VT, with no role or modifier. I chose to do the SHOUTING just to add some flavor to the character, which doesn’t happen much in our games. Anyway, I’ve RCd, what gets done with that info is up to the voters.

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Vote Count 3.3

 

CAPTAIN 
COD 
DONTAVIAN
LWW 
RAFAY
THE WARRIOR (1) rafay
VELOCITY (1) Captain
WOLFPACKS (1) LWW

 

Not voting:  COD, Dontavian, tw, velocity, wolfpacks

 

with 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch or 3 at deadline

deadline is 2/3 at 9am cn time

I feel awful voting for COD as their the only one not to roll claim. As I see it though, it is COD or someone who claimed VT.

 

Additionally, how are we feeling about that Miller role?

 

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I feel awful voting for COD as their the only one not to roll claim. As I see it though, it is COD or someone who claimed VT.

 

Additionally, how are we feeling about that Miller role?

 

UNVOTE

 

 

No need to feel bad about it. No one person led us to the position we are in.

At this point it looks like TW, Velocity, and WP would go to trial by combat, plus maybe someone who didn't vote depending on how brewers uses that rule he made in D2. I don't really feel confident that any of them are scum enough for me to want to hammer them, but all of them have been at least a little suspicious in my book, so I think I'm ok with letting trial by combat decide our fate. That list could obviously change though if TW or anyone else votes between now and 9am tomorrow.

Oops correction, not Velocity unless he got unlucky with not voting lol

 

I suppose he was now the vote leader at 2 votes and there's a day plus change before deadline so its not as random as some of the others but so be it. I am now the only unclaimed player as I see it. :roll: :roll: :roll:

You don't really have any thoughts about his actual claim? Yes we get it, it's dumb that so many people have role claimed, but we're coming up on our last 24 hours of the day and we need to be serious. It's starting to feel like you're almost intentionally using the mass claiming situation as a way to avoid having to play, honestly.

 

 

I'm not sure what thoughts you want but here goes.

 

He listed night action results which could be refuted, and has had reasons behind those decisions. I trust Velocity's role claim much more than I do a few of the others that I've seen. 

 

I wouldn't say I'm intentionally using the situation to avoid playing, though I certainly understand how it could appear that way. Would it make you feel better if I roleclaimed? I mean it sounds like you're asking and that's apparently all the reason I need.

 

Additionally, how are we feeling about that Miller role

Idk man, I don't have a reason to really doubt the claim, but if anyone is good enough to pull it off, it's TW. Unless CoD is a role cop or got lucky as a tracker or something, then we're probably stuck not being able to confirm or disprove his claim. At this point I'm still taking it at face value since it would be so hard to successfully fake, but I've been trying to analyze his play more to get a better sense that way.

 

Which way are you leaning?

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if no one reaches deadline lynch, the trial by combat will be between whomever has the most votes and a random person who isnt voting.  therefore, if you dont vote you might die, and any player who goes more than two consecutive days without voting will be subject to a trial by combat as well.  not voting is an issue that seems to be plaguing several games now
 

 

 

You don't really have any thoughts about his actual claim? Yes we get it, it's dumb that so many people have role claimed, but we're coming up on our last 24 hours of the day and we need to be serious. It's starting to feel like you're almost intentionally using the mass claiming situation as a way to avoid having to play, honestly.

 

I'm not sure what thoughts you want but here goes.

 

He listed night action results which could be refuted, and has had reasons behind those decisions. I trust Velocity's role claim much more than I do a few of the others that I've seen.

 

I wouldn't say I'm intentionally using the situation to avoid playing, though I certainly understand how it could appear that way. Would it make you feel better if I roleclaimed? I mean it sounds like you're asking and that's apparently all the reason I need.

Honestly that's all I was looking for. I don't really agree lol, I think Velocity's claim is really convenient in knowing almost everyone's roles by now and picking actions that, unless I missed something, specifically can't be refuted by any current claim or info we have. That being said though, you quoted Velocity's claim basically only to comment that it was a claim, which doesn't actually help anything and is basically a way to speak without playing. I get that the way the game is going is frustrating, and I'm not necessarily FoS'ing you or anything, but it's a safe way for scum to play where they comment on the flow of the game without taking sides.

 

So, you can claim or not claim if you want, but it doesn't have anything to do with what I was looking for or why I called you out. IMO we all need to be putting in effort since this is still a fair game to play and for us to win; we just have to make the best of what we've got and not let the semi-mass claiming be an easy excuse for scum to sit out until the end.

 

 

I’ve been debating claiming or not, because if I do it’ll save town a lot of trouble, and if I don’t I’ll have to claim tomorrow anyways to explain something (if I’m not lynched).

 

Well, I kind of forgot about this little bit too. @Velocity, since you have now claimed, mind explaining what you wanted to explain? This is now a little bit more sus in my eye as in your RC post you said you had nothing much more to share. 

Really good points and observations. I'd be really interested to hear some explanations from Velocity before the day ends.

 

I’ve been debating claiming or not, because if I do it’ll save town a lot of trouble, and if I don’t I’ll have to claim tomorrow anyways to explain something (if I’m not lynched).

Well, I kind of forgot about this little bit too. @Velocity, since you have now claimed, mind explaining what you wanted to explain? This is now a little bit more sus in my eye as in your RC post you said you had nothing much more to share.

If COD was lynched it was likely you were going to shoot me, which would mean I would have to retroactively explain why I didn’t die, which would have cast a lot of suspicion if I claimed afterwards instead of today, but I wanted to avoid a mass claim if possible.

 

As far as me viewing this thread and the forums go, I always keep this tab open so sometimes I click onto it and don’t mean to, sometimes it might just say I’m reading and I’m not, but I do usually check in a few times a day.

I'd like to add that Velocity was viewing this thread a little before my last post (4:55pm Central) and was doing so until about 5:10pm Central.

Because I hadn’t been clicked onto this website until just now, after about 5:30 EST (4:30 central) when LWW made his post before you. I’m not sure why it says I’m viewing beyond that.

 

Additionally, how are we feeling about that Miller role

Idk man, I don't have a reason to really doubt the claim, but if anyone is good enough to pull it off, it's TW. Unless CoD is a role cop or got lucky as a tracker or something, then we're probably stuck not being able to confirm or disprove his claim. At this point I'm still taking it at face value since it would be so hard to successfully fake, but I've been trying to analyze his play more to get a better sense that way.

 

Which way are you leaning?

I assure you that I’m Town. I’ve tried to be as forthcoming as possible throughout the game. I guess my question for you would be, if you’ve been willing to trust me this far, why change your mind now? Nothing has happened that would indicate that I wasn’t being truthful.

 

Deadline is tomorrow morning so I’m going to go ahead and vote for my top candidate at this point.

 

Vote: COD

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