Additionally, how are we feeling about that Miller role

Idk man, I don't have a reason to really doubt the claim, but if anyone is good enough to pull it off, it's TW. Unless CoD is a role cop or got lucky as a tracker or something, then we're probably stuck not being able to confirm or disprove his claim. At this point I'm still taking it at face value since it would be so hard to successfully fake, but I've been trying to analyze his play more to get a better sense that way.

 

Which way are you leaning?

I assure you that I’m Town. I’ve tried to be as forthcoming as possible throughout the game. I guess my question for you would be, if you’ve been willing to trust me this far, why change your mind now? Nothing has happened that would indicate that I wasn’t being truthful.

 

Deadline is tomorrow morning so I’m going to go ahead and vote for my top candidate at this point.

 

Vote: COD

 

 

Additionally, how are we feeling about that Miller role

Idk man, I don't have a reason to really doubt the claim, but if anyone is good enough to pull it off, it's TW. Unless CoD is a role cop or got lucky as a tracker or something, then we're probably stuck not being able to confirm or disprove his claim. At this point I'm still taking it at face value since it would be so hard to successfully fake, but I've been trying to analyze his play more to get a better sense that way.

 

Which way are you leaning?

I assure you that I’m Town. I’ve tried to be as forthcoming as possible throughout the game. I guess my question for you would be, if you’ve been willing to trust me this far, why change your mind now? Nothing has happened that would indicate that I wasn’t being truthful.

 

Deadline is tomorrow morning so I’m going to go ahead and vote for my top candidate at this point.

 

Vote: COD

 

 

The only reasons being the list of scum is so short, that I'm making sure we are covering all the claimed roles too. Don't you think it would be an epic power play to claim miller? Nothing could be done to disprove it...Now, I'm not insinuating that you are scum at all, just to clear that up. I'm leaning towards voting COD as well based off the claimed roles. It does mean that there is a false claim out there.

 

I assure you that I’m Town. I’ve tried to be as forthcoming as possible throughout the game. I guess my question for you would be, if you’ve been willing to trust me this far, why change your mind now? Nothing has happened that would indicate that I wasn’t being truthful.

 

Deadline is tomorrow morning so I’m going to go ahead and vote for my top candidate at this point.

 

Vote: COD

 

 

The only reasons being the list of scum is so short, that I'm making sure we are covering all the claimed roles too. Don't you think it would be an epic power play to claim miller? Nothing could be done to disprove it...Now, I'm not insinuating that you are scum at all, just to clear that up. I'm leaning towards voting COD as well based off the claimed roles. It does mean that there is a false claim out there.

 

 

 

Yes, I completely agree with this. I wasn't necessarily saying that I actually don't trust TW's claim right now, but the fact that we've essentially forced more people to claim than there are scum left means someone must be fake claiming. TW's Miller claim is not anywhere close to one of the most likely to be fake IMO, but there's nothing I'm aware of that rules out the possibility that it is fake, which means we should at least consider it as a possibility throughout the game, especially if it progresses that far. 

 

 

Additionally, how are we feeling about that Miller role

Idk man, I don't have a reason to really doubt the claim, but if anyone is good enough to pull it off, it's TW. Unless CoD is a role cop or got lucky as a tracker or something, then we're probably stuck not being able to confirm or disprove his claim. At this point I'm still taking it at face value since it would be so hard to successfully fake, but I've been trying to analyze his play more to get a better sense that way.

 

Which way are you leaning?

I assure you that I’m Town. I’ve tried to be as forthcoming as possible throughout the game. I guess my question for you would be, if you’ve been willing to trust me this far, why change your mind now? Nothing has happened that would indicate that I wasn’t being truthful.

 

Deadline is tomorrow morning so I’m going to go ahead and vote for my top candidate at this point.

 

Vote: COD

 

 

OMGUS

 

er, I mean I've been telling town not to consider you confirmed as townie since D2 since there's nothing that confirms you as town. As I know that I am town, and the fact that I tend to believe Velocitys claim far more than yours, I don't really have another option.

 

Vote: The Warrior

 

Wolfpacks is also just claimed as a townie and has been notably inactive but I have stronger suspicions with you.

Yup, I understand what you are saying COD.

 

Vote: COD

 

Now, in the off chance that COD is voted off and isn't scum (lord help us), whos next on the list?

TW as that's who COD is OMGUS towards?

Wolfpacks? (low activity, VT claim) 

Don? (VT Claim)

LLW? (strictly because of possible godfather role)

 

Of this list, I'm most sus of Wolfpacks...

Low activity because of work and VT claim was the truth whats sus about it

- Rafay has gone completely silent... not helpful

 

- WP is like: I RCd so why should I be participating? Got a lot going on...  not helpful

- our assumption on captain is that he’s town, how sure is that? “Captain - Town Vig. Claimed to have shot Kevin (scum) on N2.

I'm me...”

 

 

Yup, I understand what you are saying COD.

 

Vote: COD

 

Now, in the off chance that COD is voted off and isn't scum (lord help us), whos next on the list?

TW as that's who COD is OMGUS towards?

Wolfpacks? (low activity, VT claim) 

Don? (VT Claim)

LLW? (strictly because of possible godfather role)

 

Of this list, I'm most sus of Wolfpacks...

Why aren’t Rafay and velocity on your list? (What cleared them of sus?)

so, he understands COD, but voting him anyway...

 

 

Deadline is approaching, with very little to go on (TWs Miller claim is it) and apparently game apathy level is high, So to mix it up some...

 

VOTE:

Captain

OMGUS

 

er, I mean I've been telling town not to consider you confirmed as townie since D2 since there's nothing that confirms you as town. As I know that I am town, and the fact that I tend to believe Velocitys claim far more than yours, I don't really have another option.

 

Vote: The Warrior

 

Wolfpacks is also just claimed as a townie and has been notably inactive but I have stronger suspicions with you.

I just don't get this at all. Multiple people have called you into suspicion, so instead of claiming or really doing anything that might provide some evidence that you're town, you just loosely declare "I know that I am town" as if that means anything on its own, and then put TW a vote shy of the deadline minimum to try to save yourself (again, with really no justification other than I guess hoping that we'll let you save yourself). I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're just a mafia purist or something lol, but this really feels like a blatant attempt to skate through the game without having to unveil your role or actions because you know you'd have a hard time explaining them.

 

Honestly, I was convinced that I wouldn't hammer anyone and that I'd let fate decide our lynch today, but this is the first time I've felt reasonably confident that someone might be scum. So...

 

Vote: Chaplain of Death

 

Now, in the off chance that COD is voted off and isn't scum (lord help us), whos next on the list?

TW as that's who COD is OMGUS towards?

Wolfpacks? (low activity, VT claim)

Don? (VT Claim)

LLW? (strictly because of possible godfather role)

 

Of this list, I'm most sus of Wolfpacks...

Yeah I really hope I didn't just mess this up lol. If he's not scum I will definitely see TW as more suspicious, and honestly I know it'll make me look suspicious to have hammered him, although I'm genuinely just going with my gut and hoping it works. Idk though, I feel reasonably confident that we might have found the 2nd mafia, so hopefully we're having a different conversation tomorrow

I’m just going with my gut here as well. If COD is somehow not scum then it’s likely two of our VT claims have lied.

 

My concern now is that a Godfather might actually exist. There are a couple reasons I believe one might exist:

1) I am a townie (Miller) who investigates as scum. It would absolutely be a Brewers move to also have a scum (Godfather) that investigates as a town in this game.

2) The Cop wasn’t targeted for the kill last night. Could be that mafia thought he could be protected. On the other hand could it be because at least one of the scum isn’t afraid of being investigated?

 

The scum’s choice for night kill tonight could be very telling.

Yeah I think it's definitely seeming more possible. I agree that the cop not being targeted is suspicious, but 1) it's Rafay lol, and 2) captain wasn't targeted either, which raises the possibility that they were just trying to avoid a doctor. Actually now that I think about it though, it's possible they were worried about a tracker or voyeur or something too, which might also make the godfather idea more plausible.

 

Either way I agree that tonight's actions will be more interesting since everything has been claimed I believe.

Final vote count

 

CAPTAIN (1) dontavian
COD  (3) TW, captain, lww
DONTAVIAN
LWW 
RAFAY
THE WARRIOR (2) rafay, cod,
VELOCITY 
WOLFPACKS

 

Not voting:  velocity, wolfpacks

 

with 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch or 3 at deadline

deadline is 2/3 at 9am cn time

 

"my queen, we have caught the man responsible for all the death's recently."  Hizdahr said.

 

Danny Smiled.  'Perhaps he will give up the harpy.  Show him pain."  The dothraki soldier took a rod made of glass.  He pulled down the pants of the man and shoved it into the man's urethra.  "who is the harpy?" he asked.  

 

The man was silent.  THey forced him to drink water.  And then they smashed the glass rod.  "I said who is the harpy?"  The man screamed in pain and yelled, "HIM IT IS HIM" pointing at Hizdahr zo loraq.  Hizdahr shook his head.  "more water."  they kept forcing the man to drink.  Eventually he had to piss.  The piss forced the broken glass to shred everything in his urethra.  The pain was unbearable.  With a nod from the queen, the dothraki soldier slit his throat.

 

 

COD  (3) TW, captain, lww

 

Chaplain of Death, a Son of the Harpy and Tailor, was lynched D3.

It is now Night 3.  Deadline is 2/5 at 9am CN time

 

 

captainjf 68 lilweirdward 66 brewersalliance 46 The Warrior 41 Dontavian 26 KevinH 25 Velocity 24 Wolfpacks 24 Chaplain of death 21 Rafay 16 Tony Maurice 16 Torres951 15 Lord MK 13 Lyner 10

The tournament was going nicely in the fighting pits.  The crowd was cheering as the fight raged on.  Daenerys watched on with disgust.  Her husband smiled and cheered at the death.  He stood up to take a piss.  He began to leave the box and a man grabed him and began to stab him.  He fell to the ground dead.  The queens guard looked for the killer but he seemed to have vanished.  A few seconds passed by.  Countless men with masks on emerged from the crowd, killing the freed slaves.  The attack from the haprys was on in full force.  The queen retreated to the areana floor.  What was left of her guard surrounded her to protect her.  Hundreds of harpy's encircled them.  Death for everyone was imminent.

 

Danenrys closed her eyes.  This was it, she thought to herself.  There was a loud roar.  A giant shadow befell the arean.  Drogon, the largest of the dragons has arrived!  He landed around the queen, his monther.  Belwas was not paying attention as the dragon flew to the ground.  Drogon landed right on top of him, crushing the member of the queen's guard and killing him.  Maybe they had a chance to survive after all....

 

The Warrior, Hizdahr zo Loraq, a Miller, died n3

Wolfpacks, Belways, a VT, died  N3

 

It is now D4

Deadline is 2/10 at 9am CN time

Ok time to get serious. The below five players are are all that's left. I think we can assume probably just one mafia left among here, which means we have two mislynches to get this right.

 

CAPTAIN

DONTAVIAN

LWW

RAFAY

VELOCITY

 

Very interested to hear everyone's actions and what we've learned from last night.

Why kill WP? Did he get Mod killed?

 

Rafay and cod voted TW and cod got lynched.

TW, captain, and lww voted cod (lww voted twice? OR did his two votes kill TW and WP?)

velocity and WP didn’t vote

 

I targeted Wolfpacks last night. I didn't have much to go on so I tried to narrow the choices down. I ended up deciding on Wolfpacks for a few reasons: First, activity level. I know he said he'd been busy at work, but he also wasn't helping the town much. Second, VT claim (we decided as town that the VT claims were the most sus as they are easy to claim). Third, his fast vote for Rafay a few nights ago.

 

I did consider not killing, but it felt like a 51% to 49% split and I just went for it. Was it wrong? Perhaps, but the list of suspects is now shorter.

So you took a chance and targeted WP (as good a pick as any I guess)

 

still wondering about the two votes by lww

 

and just based on the voting fall out, my SUS are Rafay and Velocity

So you took a chance and targeted WP (as good a pick as any I guess)

 

still wondering about the two votes by lww

 

and just based on the voting fall out, my SUS are Rafay and Velocity

 

Brewers forgot to remove LWW's vote from Wolfpacks. In his last post, LWW voted for COD.

 

If we are doing Sus lists, I sus Velocity and Don (sorry don)

FOS: Velocity

 

CoD tried hard to defend the credibility of Velocity's claim, which I thought felt fishy anyway.

 

still wondering about the two votes by lww

Yeah captain is right, I changed my vote a few hours before deadline to CoD. Brewers just must have forgot to drop the vote I took off WP.

Remember me the way I was yesterday.

I hope Rafay was smart last night and investigated me. I think a godfather is very unlikely since there was a tailor in play (a variant of framer that can make somebody show up town to a cop). LWW could have been tailored to show up as town, so we can’t really say he’s town based on that. Any result after that night I think can be trusted because I don’t think a godfather would be in the game with a tailor as well.

 

Me and COD were the only options for a lynch yesterday, no argument to be made otherwise.

 

If we were both scum why would he try to defend me instead of try and get me lynched, to build town credit? Him defending me if we were both scum would just put me in a really bad position if he got lynched (which did happen). However, it would give his other remaining partner an easier time going after me for that exact reason the next day...

 

I think Rafay is truly the cop, and captain I doubt is scum. Don is possible but unlikely to be scum, he committed to his role all game. Which leaves only lww and myself. I know I’m town, so..

 

FOS LWW (I think this might be my second FOS ever!)

 

I think we need a claim from him, since there’s nothing left to be lost by him not claiming and it can only help town.

I honestly completely forgot that I hadn't actually claimed yet. I'm Groleo, Admiral of Daenerys' fleet, and a Vanilla Townie. 

 

If we were both scum why would he try to defend me instead of try and get me lynched, to build town credit? Him defending me if we were both scum would just put me in a really bad position if he got lynched (which did happen). However, it would give his other remaining partner an easier time going after me for that exact reason the next day...

 

You both were stuck as the last two people that we knew nothing about, and you ended up being the first to make a claim, which was admittedly a pretty decent one. Captain basically said that he was going to shoot whichever of the two of you wasn't lynched before you made that claim, so what do you think makes more sense? Double-bussing each other and making Captain even more suspicious of you, or trying to add some extra believability to your claim before making a last-ditch effort to get TW lynched and take a vig kill for the team? In fact you basically admitted that you were aware of the fact that you'd be shot if COD was lynched, which influenced the claim you've gone with.

 

 

Well, I kind of forgot about this little bit too. @Velocity, since you have now claimed, mind explaining what you wanted to explain? This is now a little bit more sus in my eye as in your RC post you said you had nothing much more to share.

 

 

If COD was lynched it was likely you were going to shoot me, which would mean I would have to retroactively explain why I didn’t die, which would have cast a lot of suspicion if I claimed afterwards instead of today, but I wanted to avoid a mass claim if possible.

 

Tbh the only reason that I'm not already voting you is because I think Dontavian has been extremely suspicious as well since dropping the Dothraki bit, all the way up to voting captain yesterday for whatever reason. Captain is basically the most confirmed townie outside of maybe Rafay since he claimed vig before shooting mafia, and the way Don tried to make him look suspicious while completely overlooking COD is a definite scum tell to me. I am almost 100% certain that one of you two is scum, I'm just not convinced that I know which is which.

 

 

Me and COD were the only options for a lynch yesterday, no argument to be made otherwise.

 

 

Also I just want to point out that this is completely false. With less than 24 hours to go, COD didn't even have any votes, and captain took his vote off you right after this vote count. There was suspicion around COD for not claiming, but you two were not "the only options for a lynch" by any stretch.

 

 

Vote Count 3.3  

 

CAPTAIN 

COD 

DONTAVIAN

LWW 

RAFAY

THE WARRIOR (1)rafay

VELOCITY (1) Captain

WOLFPACKS (1) LWW  

 

Not voting:  COD, Dontavian, tw, velocity, wolfpacks

 

 

Me and COD were the only options for a lynch yesterday, no argument to be made otherwise.

 

 

Also I just want to point out that this is completely false. With less than 24 hours to go, COD didn't even have any votes, and captain took his vote off you right after this vote count. There was suspicion around COD for not claiming, but you two were not "the only options for a lynch" by any stretch.

 

 

Vote Count 3.3  

 

CAPTAIN 

COD 

DONTAVIAN

LWW 

RAFAY

THE WARRIOR (1)rafay

VELOCITY (1) Captain

WOLFPACKS (1) LWW  

 

Not voting:  COD, Dontavian, tw, velocity, wolfpacks

 

 

 

To be honest, the claim made by Don convinced me (at the time) that he should not be the target of my Vig shot (flame breath). The three I had in consideration were Velocity, Don, and Wolf. Since wolf was the most inactive and (sorry to admit) most unhelpful, I ended up going with him. That said, it is now between Don and Velocity for me. I am leaning towards Don though because of his very odd vote for me. In fact, that was almost the determining factor (I wish I didn't wimp out on it).

 

Me and COD were the only options for a lynch yesterday, no argument to be made otherwise.

 

Also I just want to point out that this is completely false. With less than 24 hours to go, COD didn't even have any votes, and captain took his vote off you right after this vote count. There was suspicion around COD for not claiming, but you two were not "the only options for a lynch" by any stretch.

Vote Count 3.3

 

CAPTAIN

COD

DONTAVIAN

LWW

RAFAY

THE WARRIOR (1)rafay

VELOCITY (1) Captain

WOLFPACKS (1) LWW

 

Not voting: COD, Dontavian, tw, velocity, wolfpacks

TW was never going to end up getting lynched, don’t get that in your head. Nobody wants to lynched TW, and when there’s better candidates than him people will take it. People were pushing me and COD more than WP. You were basically the only person pushing WP. The only reason WP had votes is because you were playing multiple sides of the vote in questioning my claim, nudging COD about that he could be lynched, and voting WP.

I honestly completely forgot that I hadn't actually claimed yet. I'm Groleo, Admiral of Daenerys' fleet, and a Vanilla Townie. 

 

 

If we were both scum why would he try to defend me instead of try and get me lynched, to build town credit? Him defending me if we were both scum would just put me in a really bad position if he got lynched (which did happen). However, it would give his other remaining partner an easier time going after me for that exact reason the next day...

 

 

You both were stuck as the last two people that we knew nothing about, and you ended up being the first to make a claim, which was admittedly a pretty decent one. Captain basically said that he was going to shoot whichever of the two of you wasn't lynched before you made that claim, so what do you think makes more sense? Double-bussing each other and making Captain even more suspicious of you, or trying to add some extra believability to your claim before making a last-ditch effort to get TW lynched and take a vig kill for the team? In fact you basically admitted that you were aware of the fact that you'd be shot if COD was lynched, which influenced the claim you've gone with.

 

 

 

Well, I kind of forgot about this little bit too. @Velocity, since you have now claimed, mind explaining what you wanted to explain? This is now a little bit more sus in my eye as in your RC post you said you had nothing much more to share.

 

 

 

If COD was lynched it was likely you were going to shoot me, which would mean I would have to retroactively explain why I didn’t die, which would have cast a lot of suspicion if I claimed afterwards instead of today, but I wanted to avoid a mass claim if possible.

 

Tbh the only reason that I'm not already voting you is because I think Dontavian has been extremely suspicious as well since dropping the Dothraki bit, all the way up to voting captain yesterday for whatever reason. Captain is basically the most confirmed townie outside of maybe Rafay since he claimed vig before shooting mafia, and the way Don tried to make him look suspicious while completely overlooking COD is a definite scum tell to me. I am almost 100% certain that one of you two is scum, I'm just not convinced that I know which is which.

The “claim I’ve gone with” is my role. I protected Rafay last night. What makes sense to me is a townie coming out about his role so the vigilante doesn’t waste a shot on him. It would have made a lot more sense if we were both scum to shift it onto somebody that wasn’t one of us. If you want to make the argument that somebody other than me or COD could be lynched, you have to accept that me and him are both scum, which by the case. I think it’s suspicious as hell of you to swap onto him near the end of the day, so when he gets lynched and turns up as a scum you can use it to say “look! I lynched a scum!” It’s almost always either the first or last person to join a wagon on a scum that is scum, if anyone is. You are the person who would’ve had the most reason to kill TW, as well. He kept questioning that you could probably be a godfather. I think you realized, if he was allowed to make it to today, he would have figured out that with a tailor you were probably tailored to look like town. And people follow TW, so you wanted to get him out of the picture.

 

We cannot trust Rafay’s town result on you now. There was a tailor out there until last night. What we know about you is that you’re claiming VT. That is all we can be sure of. And I’m not going to believe that. The admiral of the fleet? The one leading the entire navy? A VT? I’d think Daenerys’s admiral would have as much power as her bodyguard (me, a bodyguard). Definitely not as little as say, a dorthraki screamer.

 

I think I’ve seen enough. An FOS simply does not do.

 

Vote: lww