Well, crap. We now have an alleged cop claim and Vig claim. If we have a protective role, please think long and hard (that’s what she said) about who you protect tonight.

That vig claim is bs in my opinion. Sorry I’m on a bus right now.

That vig claim is bs in my opinion. Sorry I’m on a bus right now.

 

Very well. If I die in a trial by combat, you will see for sure Tony!

 

 

Torres: Friendly Neighbor (note: he has actually not personally confirmed this, TW has just claimed it for him)

I kinda confirmed it here:

 

 

I would like to say that I chose to "come out" to TW because I knew that he could vouch for me if he was town and that people would actually believe what he had to say.

 

But the wording wasn't super clear, so I get why you thought that. 

If I miraculously make it though the day, I could use some advice on who to go for tonight

Additionally, COD, could you please explain a little bit more why you think I am guilty?

If I miraculously make it though the day, I could use some advice on who to go for tonight

The general way I've seen people suggest to play vig is to shoot someone that town suspects anyway, because either they were right and you get a free scum kill, or you eliminate a potential mislynch candidate and save town a possible wasted day. Just be careful shooting someone that you personally suspect but no one else does, because if you're wrong then you actually cost town a player they wouldn't have eliminated anyway and just make their job harder. You also could gamble on not shooting again in the hopes that scum goes after Rafay instead of you. You obviously risk losing your shot, but if you're feeling like you don't have any confident leads then it's always an option imo.

 

This is assuming you're telling the truth of course lol, but no one has countered your claim yet so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt for today.

 

If I miraculously make it though the day, I could use some advice on who to go for tonight

The general way I've seen people suggest to play vig is to shoot someone that town suspects anyway, because either they were right and you get a free scum kill, or you eliminate a potential mislynch candidate and save town a possible wasted day. Just be careful shooting someone that you personally suspect but no one else does, because if you're wrong then you actually cost town a player they wouldn't have eliminated anyway and just make their job harder. You also could gamble on not shooting again in the hopes that scum goes after Rafay instead of you. You obviously risk losing your shot, but if you're feeling like you don't have any confident leads then it's always an option imo.

 

This is assuming you're telling the truth of course lol, but no one has countered your claim yet so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt for today.

 

 

Thanks for the tips LLW.

Additionally, COD, could you please explain a little bit more why you think I am guilty?

 

I'm trying to work with what little info we have. you just hit me wrong when you were coming at Kevin about posting things that weren't contributing to the conversation when he has been contributing more than a fair number of players. You backed off of it when push came to shove but it still seemed scummy to me the way you were trying to throw suspicion on people.

 

The fact that you voted Lyner is interesting but you make it sound as if you didn't have a choice. He removed his vote in response to you voting him, and you posted after that but kept your vote there. That wasn't "self preservation" at that point.

 

 

Also we are swiftly approaching a Mass claim situation here which is against the rules of the game. I don't know where Brewers and the other mods have been drawing that line these days, but the rules state "unless you have something interesting to contribute". Personally I don't feel "oh crap I have the most votes" is something to contribute. Night action results or information that only you have besides your role is something to contribute. TW claiming miller before he was investigated and confirming Torres is something to contribute.

 

Additionally, COD, could you please explain a little bit more why you think I am guilty?

 

I'm trying to work with what little info we have. you just hit me wrong when you were coming at Kevin about posting things that weren't contributing to the conversation when he has been contributing more than a fair number of players. You backed off of it when push came to shove but it still seemed scummy to me the way you were trying to throw suspicion on people.

 

The fact that you voted Lyner is interesting but you make it sound as if you didn't have a choice. He removed his vote in response to you voting him, and you posted after that but kept your vote there. That wasn't "self preservation" at that point.

 

 

Also we are swiftly approaching a Mass claim situation here which is against the rules of the game. I don't know where Brewers and the other mods have been drawing that line these days, but the rules state "unless you have something interesting to contribute". Personally I don't feel "oh crap I have the most votes" is something to contribute. Night action results or information that only you have besides your role is something to contribute. TW claiming miller before he was investigated and confirming Torres is something to contribute.

 

This is my train of thought too.

I somehow missed deadline by less then ten minutes

 

I doubt he’ll count it, but let it be known if I could

 

Vote: Tony M

Nevermind, I’m a massive tool as was thinking EST (where I live), not CST

Vote captain.

 

to save my own ass and some suspicion

 

more explanation later

So uhh I guess we won't get this explanation huh?

As for the mass claiming, I'm okay with claiming as long as people are claiming to save their own skin.

 

I think all the claims have been either in an attempt to try to prevent a lynch or to share info (for the most part)

 

But CoD is right we are getting close to mass claiming.

Since we are in twilight, I could still use advise on the Vig ability! Anyone the the town is suspect of?

Final Vote Count:

 

CAPTAIN (2) COD, KevinH, Tony
COD (1) Wolfpacks
DONTAVIAN
KEVIN
LWW (1) Tony
RAFAY
THE WARRIOR (1) RAFAY
TONY (4) Captain, Dontavian, LWW, Velocity
TORRES
VELOCITY
WOLFPACKS (2) Torres, TW

Barristan Selmy walked the streets of Meereen.  The fighting pits are to open tomorrow but Grey Worm is still missing.  He feared the worst, but continued his task. He was walking up and down the streets looking for any sign of a struggle that might point towards his disappearance.  Daenerys was already on the brink of a collapse and if Grey Worm isnt found soon, Barristan worried she might break.  He rounded a corner and was greeted by a fat man.

 

"Hey, youre the man who's always with the queen."  He said.  Barristan nodded and continued on, ignoring him.

"Hey, stop, I want to talk to you."  Barristan gave paid him no attention.  "You are going to want to hear what I have to say"  But he kept walking.  Barriston could hear the man following him.  He placed his hand on his sword.  He rounded a corner and came into a large crowd.  

 

"He is the one!"  the man yelled at and pointed at Barriston.  

 

"MURDERER!"  Yelled the crowd.  Barriston had no idea what they were talking about.  He readied himself for a fight.  And then he saw it.  The head of Grey Worm, on a spike.  He took his hand off his sword in shock.  As he did so, the crowd overwhelmed him. They started kicking and punching him,  He felt his ribs break, and next his jaw.  He was beat bloody and weak.  The crowd Grabbed him and stood him up on a block.  A rope was placed around his neck.  

 

"See?"  the fat man whispered into his ear..."You shouldnt have ignored me.  But my men, my followers cannot be stopped.  Meereen shall be freed"  He gave Barristan a shove, and with a loud snap, his neck cracked. 

 

 

TONY (4) Captain, Dontavian, LWW, Velocity

 

Tony, Barristan Selmy, a Paranoid Sword Owner, was lynched D2

 

It is now N2.  Deadline for all actions is 1/28 at 9am CN time

 

captainjf 53 lilweirdward 43 brewersalliance 35 The Warrior 28 KevinH 24 Dontavian 18 Wolfpacks 18 Tony Maurice 16 Torres951 15 Velocity 15 Chaplain of death 14 Lord MK 13 Rafay 13 Lyner 10

MIssandei woke from her sleep.  There was a noise in the corner of her room.  She looked but did not see anything in the darkness.  She felt a tug on the covers of her bed and a figure got into the bed with her.  Grey Worm, she realized.  He was finally back!  She cuddled up with him.  But then something struck her as strange.  He was wearing a mask.  A Harpy Mask!  She realized it was not gray worm but before she could scream, he spun and stabbed her through the heart.   The Harpy got up and left the room.  Two other Hapries were standing guard outside the door.  The three of them left in different directions.  The tallest of the three went left and was walking along the sides of the walls.  It was a beautiful night.  He had one more task to complete tonight.  He had to complete this task, otherwise the Harpy's may be in danger... As he was walking he heard the wind pick up.   Strange he thought.  A chill came over him.  He could tell something was behind him.  He turned around and was struck with pure terror.  The last thing that went through his mind was pain... nothing but pure pain.

 

 

Torres, Missandei, a Friendly Neighbor Died N3

KevinH, A Son of the Harpy, and JOAT, Died N3

 

It is now D4.  Deadline is 2/3 at 9am CN time

Well I'm lucky enough to have survived the night. I investigated LWW and he's not guilty.

 

Lets pick up where we left off.

 

Vote: TheWarrior

Wait Torres?? What in the world. Good work to whoever killed Kevin though.

 

@captain I'm definitely interested to hear what actions you took last night and what your reasoning was.

Well I'm lucky enough to have survived the night. I investigated LWW and he's not guilty.

 

Lets pick up where we left off.

 

Vote: TheWarrior

Why don’t you actually think about what I’ve claimed to be and how I’ve played the game up to this point instead of voting based off of your flawed investigation result? I am a Miller. That is the only reason why I investigated as guilty to you. That’s what a Miller does.

 

Regarding Torres: I helped confirm him as a Friendly Neighbor and a member of the town.

Regarding Kevin: I didn’t end up voting for him yesterday but I listed him as one of my top suspects and called him out early in the game as well when he was critical of me being a Miller. If Wolfpacks didn’t play the way he did yesterday I would have voted for Kevin when no one else was.

 

 

MIssandei woke from her sleep. There was a noise in the corner of her room. She looked but did not see anything in the darkness. She felt a tug on the covers of her bed and a figure got into the bed with her. Grey Worm, she realized. He was finally back! She cuddled up with him. But then something struck her as strange. He was wearing a mask. A Harpy Mask! She realized it was not gray worm but before she could scream, he spun and stabbed her through the heart. The Harpy got up and left the room. Two other Hapries were standing guard outside the door. The three of them left in different directions. The tallest of the three went left and was walking along the sides of the walls. It was a beautiful night. He had one more task to complete tonight. He had to complete this task, otherwise the Harpy's may be in danger... As he was walking he heard the wind pick up. Strange he thought. A chill came over him. He could tell something was behind him. He turned around and was struck with pure terror. The last thing that went through his mind was pain... nothing but pure pain.

 

Torres, Missandei, a Friendly Neighbor Died N3

KevinH, A Son of the Harpy, and JOAT, Died N3

 

It is now D4. Deadline is 2/3 at 9am CN time

Shouldn’t it be D3?

 

Shouldn’t it be D3?

 

AGREED, IT SHOULD BE D3, NOT D4.

 

ALSO AGREED, GOOD JOB WHOEVER GOT KEVIN, THAT SON OF A HARPY!   2 MORE TOWNIE GONE THOUGH AND ONLY LEAD SO FAR IS THE CONTINUANCE OF THE TW IS A MILLER DISCUSSION.

 

WHY WOULD THEY TARGET TORRES OVERNIGHT?

 

 

 

Shouldn’t it be D3?

 

AGREED, IT SHOULD BE D3, NOT D4.

 

ALSO AGREED, GOOD JOB WHOEVER GOT KEVIN, THAT SON OF A HARPY! 2 MORE TOWNIE GONE THOUGH AND ONLY LEAD SO FAR IS THE CONTINUANCE OF THE TW IS A MILLER DISCUSSION.

 

WHY WOULD THEY TARGET TORRES OVERNIGHT?

He was as close a confirmed town as there was, so killing him sets the town back.

 

 

Shouldn’t it be D3?

AGREED, IT SHOULD BE D3, NOT D4.

 

ALSO AGREED, GOOD JOB WHOEVER GOT KEVIN, THAT SON OF A HARPY! 2 MORE TOWNIE GONE THOUGH AND ONLY LEAD SO FAR IS THE CONTINUANCE OF THE TW IS A MILLER DISCUSSION.

 

WHY WOULD THEY TARGET TORRES OVERNIGHT?

He was as close a confirmed town as there was, so killing him sets the town back.

 

I GET THAT POINT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, SCUM KNOW WHO IS ON THEIR TEAM ALREADY, SO WOULDNT THEY GO AFTER A DIFFERENT TOWNIE TO POTENTIALLY GET MORE OF A PR THAN A FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR?

Wait Torres?? What in the world. Good work to whoever killed Kevin though.

 

@captain I'm definitely interested to hear what actions you took last night and what your reasoning was.

 

I'm excited, because I targeted KevinH last night! I was really not sure who to target the discussion was focused on TW and his miller claim, Rafay for the cop claim, and me. However, when I claimed Vig late in the day, I was monitoring to be able to answer questions quickly. I saw that Kevin was viewing the thread for some time (10-20 minutes), but never responded, changed his vote, or acknowledged my claim.

 

My thought was, if he is scum, he wouldn't want to respond and hope that I get a few more votes to eliminate me as a threat. If he was town, I would at least expect a, "Bro, that is a late claim and sus." I went with my gut and I was correct!

 

 

 

 

 

However, shifting the conversation slightly, isn't it obviously LLW what action I took? It looks like torres wasn't a vengeful townie or paranoid sword owner, so how else could Kevin have died?

 

 

Wait Torres?? What in the world. Good work to whoever killed Kevin though.

 

@captain I'm definitely interested to hear what actions you took last night and what your reasoning was.

I'm excited, because I targeted KevinH last night! I was really not sure who to target the discussion was focused on TW and his miller claim, Rafay for the cop claim, and me. However, when I claimed Vig late in the day, I was monitoring to be able to answer questions quickly. I saw that Kevin was viewing the thread for some time (10-20 minutes), but never responded, changed his vote, or acknowledged my claim.

 

My thought was, if he is scum, he wouldn't want to respond and hope that I get a few more votes to eliminate me as a threat. If he was town, I would at least expect a, "Bro, that is a late claim and sus." I went with my gut and I was correct!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, shifting the conversation slightly, isn't it obviously LLW what action I took? It looks like torres wasn't a vengeful townie or paranoid sword owner, so how else could Kevin have died?

I mean I definitely assumed it was you with your claim since obviously mafia wouldn't kill another mafia lol, but between a PGO surfacing yesterday and the fact that neither you or Rafay were apparently targeted (unless there are 3 killers and one was stopped or something), I wanted to give you a chance to speak for yourself to see how you'd explain your actions. Someone lying about their claim might take more time to think of a way to explain killing Kevin if they actually didn't, and I wanted to give you that chance to mess up if you were somehow not the one who killed him.

 

That being said this explanation totally makes sense to me and feels really believable even without situational evidence, which is definitely on your side too. The bit about seeing him lurking after your claim is really smart btw, honestly that was a gutsy but good call.