1. Assuming you're town, you're almost certainly still around because your inexperience has already led to a few things that make you come off as potentially scummy, and mafia will always try to leave people like that alive because they want town to mislynch suspicious players like we did with Kevin. Also since you're new, you're probably a bit less likely to convince the town to go for a wagon that you start, so your scattered voting is likely less risky to them.

 

I dont know about this. If you walk like a duck, quack like a duck, you are probably a duck.

 

Vote: Zacch 

 

His extreme flip-flopping, baseless reasoning, jumping on wagons to lynch, all point towards a scum. He is standing out so much because he is an inexperienced scum, it doesnt means he is a clueless townie. Or he is another Rafay n disguise. I cant remember how many game Rafay survived as scum because everyone thought he always posts scummy. I am not going to give the same free-pass to Zacch. Lets lynch the ones with the scummiest behavior.

 

jazz is yet to show up. FOS: Jazz

 

I would call for him to be lynched, if Zacch wasnt acting so scummy. I am on the fence regarding Velocity. I need to go through the earlier posts again, but for now I will go with the ones I find the most scummy.

FYI- iSoc 2.0 has been prodded.

A lot of walls to unpack. To save time I'm not going to fully talked about my overall feeling of people TL;DR statements and soft list. How are some general thoughts.

 

Mafia might be targeting inactives because they happen to be more on the active side. Not a agenda but just a coincidence.

 

Some people who were quick to count Kevin claim out, or also quick to jump on Robert statements.

 

Zach seems to be a following the crowd type player. As of right now.

 

There's still something about LWW that I can't fully explain that has my gut feeling heightened.

 

but based on everyone's feedback about his statements being genuine

 

Where was this said? Who said it? Can you give a reference? 

 

 

Now brewers is not someone who always play fair But when it comes to situations like this, i think precedent sets his intentions as genuine

 

 

From what I understand, Velocity is one of the most skillful scum players there is,

 

I thought you were a newby who havent played many game. Where did you get this information from regarding past games played by Velocity. 

 

I've read parts of a few of the games on this forum, specifically some that were mentioned by brewers on discord, check the discord if you don't believe me.

 

 

Any one of us can claim a distain for brewers, @everyone in discord, sending dicks to people on day 1, spam posting just because, breaking #counting chains, everyone's got a legitimate reason to vote him off, a brewers night kill would give us nothing to go on, but yet he remains and the longer his is around the more suspicious it is.

 

You keep on bringing OOC reasons in this game. There is no evidence anyone is voing or night killing on OOC reasons.  

Fair, I will abandon those reasons as they should have nothing to do with the game.

 

And that's where I leave my vote, once again, believing that those who have presented a legitimate case against me must be townies, and those that have not, must see me as a low priority threat.

 

The only vote on you currently is Robert. And you voted for him. Now you are saying he is townie because he voted for you? 

 

Yea, in a nutshell.

 

Scum #1: lilweirdward

1. Day 1 Pro-Lynch

2. Day 1 Fake Vote for Velocity before dropping it (no vote at end despite being pro-lynch in D1 postings)

3. Day 2 Second to join Kevin Wagon.

4. Day 2 Was the most aggressive if not a close second to brewers in the Kevin push.

 

 

Scum #2: Brewers

1. Day 1 Pro-Lynch

2. Day 2 Fake vote for llw

3. Day 2 Started Kevin Wagon

4. Day 2 Clear team with llw.

 

Scum #3: Velocity

1, Day 1 Pro-Lynch

2. Day 2 Refused to vote for Kevin despite Agreeing with the Wagon.

 

Its interesting both Brewers and llw did a Fos on Velocity, almost on purpose to distance themselves from him. This threw me off on brewers at first thinking ok Velocity cant be scum brewers just pointed him out, but if you think about it, Velocity FoS was an obvious one due to his reluctance to vote kevin despite agreeing with the wagon. I now think this was a fake Fos to put distance between scum. llw's FoS of Velocity also being fake.

 

It just feels like the three of them are connected and actively trying to make it seem like they're not. 

 

Suspicious of:

1. Darkfox

2. Preston

 

Mostly for either being on the kevin wagon (DF) or Pro-Lynch day 1 (Preston).

 

I'm probably wrong, like usual, but this is my honest assessment of the game (no bullshit).

 

 

Mostly for either being on the kevin wagon (DF)

 

 

You were also on the vote for Kevin. I explained my logic and you agreed with it. I am curious why you find that suspicious now

 

Mostly for either being on the kevin wagon (DF)

 

 

You were also on the vote for Kevin. I explained my logic and you agreed with it. I am curious why you find that suspicious now

 

 

Where did I agree with your logic? I think this is our first exchange all game. What was your logic again?

Sorry I misunderstood, you meant on the original reason to vote for kevin, I thought on you explanation for why you were wrong about kevin.

 

Mostly for either being on the kevin wagon (DF)

 

 

You were also on the vote for Kevin. I explained my logic and you agreed with it. I am curious why you find that suspicious now

 

 

To answer directly, the logic doesn't matter at this point, you were on the kevin wagon, yes I followed you on it, but that doesn't mean I can't still be suspicious. Ultimately the reason your just suspicious and not listed as scum (same reason for preston, although I get more feeling for him being scum), is because I don't currently think you are.

 

The Triad is full, if there is a forth, then maybe thats where either you or preston come into play.

Scum #1: lilweirdward

1. Day 1 Pro-Lynch

2. Day 1 Fake Vote for Velocity before dropping it (no vote at end despite being pro-lynch in D1 postings)

3. Day 2 Second to join Kevin Wagon.

4. Day 2 Was the most aggressive if not a close second to brewers in the Kevin push.

 

 

Scum #2: Brewers

1. Day 1 Pro-Lynch

2. Day 2 Fake vote for llw

3. Day 2 Started Kevin Wagon

4. Day 2 Clear team with llw.

 

Scum #3: Velocity

1, Day 1 Pro-Lynch

2. Day 2 Refused to vote for Kevin despite Agreeing with the Wagon.

 

Its interesting both Brewers and llw did a Fos on Velocity, almost on purpose to distance themselves from him. This threw me off on brewers at first thinking ok Velocity cant be scum brewers just pointed him out, but if you think about it, Velocity FoS was an obvious one due to his reluctance to vote kevin despite agreeing with the wagon. I now think this was a fake Fos to put distance between scum. llw's FoS of Velocity also being fake.

 

It just feels like the three of them are connected and actively trying to make it seem like they're not.

 

Suspicious of:

1. Darkfox

2. Preston

 

Mostly for either being on the kevin wagon (DF) or Pro-Lynch day 1 (Preston).

 

I'm probably wrong, like usual, but this is my honest assessment of the game (no bullshit).

Pushing for lynches in general is not a scum thing to do. We have to lynch scum, it's legitimately the only guaranteed way that town can win the game. Sometimes there can be vigilantes or other town killing roles, but we have no idea if they exist in this game at all, and we certainly can't expect them to kill off the entire scum team for us even if they did. So, in general, I think it's a bad idea to FoS people just because they pushed for lynches generally.

 

Now, pushing to get townies lynched is generally something that town should find more suspicious because that is beneficial to scum, but town doesn't have a sure fire way of knowing if someone is town or not before lynching them, so it's not a guarantee that someone who lynches a townie is scum. In fact, oftentimes scum will avoid lynching a townie because of the fact that people will be suspected over having done that, so sometimes it's the people off of wagons that should be sussed out as much as the ones on them.

 

Also, I unvoted for Velocity on D1 because I didn't think he was being scummy and I didn't want him to be my lol vote for D1. I said that I would vote for an inactive, but the Tony situation happened right after that IIRC, and by the time that got sorted out, I didn't get to log back to post a vote in before the day ended. I think it should be obvious that I would have voted for an inactive though.

 

Lastly, I'm not on a team with brewers lol. Usually if anything, mafia will try to do different things throughout the early to mid game to avoid looking like they're obviously working together, and even if I'm not smart enough to do that (although I'd like to think I am), I guarantee that brewers is. He and I just play fairly similarly - we tend to have similar reads, and we like to push for wagons pretty hard - so it seems like we've ended up on the same people the last few days. Idk if he's following me because he's scum and wants to stick to a townie to be more believably town, but I haven't gotten that sense, and I know that I'm town so obviously I'm not doing that lol.

honestly for me it can go either way with zacch.  or zaach or zach...  he is coming off as either a new town player, and what he is doing feels like it could be that, but it can also be mistakes from an inexperienced scum player.

 

  

 

4. Day 2 Clear team with llw.

 

 

you are pointing out how both lww and i both were very aggressive on kevin.... if anything this makes it extremely UNLIKELY that we are partners.  no two competent scum players are going to both go after someone hard like that

 

my thoughts on the game:

 

Town:

Me-obviously

Dark Fox- town, he knows why i am 99.9% sure he is town.  dont want to out him tho if anyone missed what happened.

lww: posts feel townish, as well as his push for kevin early.  dont feel like he would do that as scum.  now if kevin flipped scum, he could have been bussing but I dont see scum pushing that hard on a townie this early, ESPECIALLY since i was leading the charge and there would be no reason to do it since i am gonna push kevin all day anyways

Preston:  ive never played with him before so idk his play style but typically the giant quote walls go hand in hand with town players, so for now im giving him the benefit of the doubt

 

No clue:

Imran:  dont have a feeling either way.  He hasnt done anything that screams scum or town.  he is a skilled player so he could play as scum easily without being obviously scum

isocialism 2- i dont even remember who he replaced and hes posted once so I got nothing for him

Lyner:  same as imran

MK: no where near as active as he usually is, but i feel like he would be a lot more active if scum.  tho he has made some weird votes

zach:  cant tell if he is scum or just a new townish player.  it feels like he is trying hard tho so brownie points i guess

 

Scum Suspects:

Robert- ive detailed my reasoning before

Jazzy: he has been very quiet and his actions feel like he is trying to hide under the radar.  also his place on the Kevin Wagon feels like a spot where scum would hide.  im def open to voting him instead of robert

velocity:  he came out of the gate d1 saying it was a new velocity and he votes now... and then doesnt vote at all d2 and avoids the kevin wagon even tho he comments right before deadline saying he thinks kevin might be scum... feels like potental scum trying to avoid a wagon

 

 

 

i think thats everyone

 

 

. Idk if he's following me because he's scum and wants to stick to a townie to be more believably town

 

 

you followed me on kevin so shut up

two feels on the set up:

 

Scum is three people or scum is two people and if thanos gets all three stones half the townies die randomly

 

if scum is three people, my gut tells me that one of the scum is probably from my no clue list of people.... usually at least one scum will do a good job blending in with town, and for my suspects, usually we are good for a few townies playing poorly and looking like they are scum lol  tho there is no rafay this game thats usually his job, but kevins RC felt like a Rafay move so I guess rafay was with us in spirit

If I calculated the votes correctly, as it stands Velocity will be lynched in 2 days

 

Would urge these people sitting on the sidelines to start voting:

 

Not Voting: Darkfox, Imran Ehsan, iSocialism2.0, Jazzy95, Velocity

 

I'm going to come to the defense of Zach here. He's a newer guy to at least or forums and will be a great addition for later games. His voting is scattered, but this is typically not a scummy strategy. His voting is not just an one vote on someone random but actually has weight and could put someone's wagon further into motion.

 

Now it does seem slight wishy-washy with his commitment of his voting and also to mention the feeling of following the wagons. But he's willing to put a lot of players at risk. If he is scum this will give us a better idea who he's mates are. But I will go with, not scum.

As for my vote, out of the two popular options I don't see Robert as scum. In fact, I think him being pushed is sus.

 

I think the next option will bring a lot of clarification to some others things. For that reason

 

Vote Velocity

 

 

 

but based on everyone's feedback about his statements being genuine

Where was this said? Who said it? Can you give a reference?

Now brewers is not someone who always play fair But when it comes to situations like this, i think precedent sets his intentions as genuine

From what I understand, Velocity is one of the most skillful scum players there is,

I thought you were a newby who havent played many game. Where did you get this information from regarding past games played by Velocity.

 

I've read parts of a few of the games on this forum, specifically some that were mentioned by brewers on discord, check the discord if you don't believe me.

 

Any one of us can claim a distain for brewers, @everyone in discord, sending dicks to people on day 1, spam posting just because, breaking #counting chains, everyone's got a legitimate reason to vote him off, a brewers night kill would give us nothing to go on, but yet he remains and the longer his is around the more suspicious it is.

You keep on bringing OOC reasons in this game. There is no evidence anyone is voing or night killing on OOC reasons.

 

Fair, I will abandon those reasons as they should have nothing to do with the game.

And that's where I leave my vote, once again, believing that those who have presented a legitimate case against me must be townies, and those that have not, must see me as a low priority threat.

The only vote on you currently is Robert. And you voted for him. Now you are saying he is townie because he voted for you?

 

Yea, in a nutshell.

Scum #1: lilweirdward

1. Day 1 Pro-Lynch

2. Day 1 Fake Vote for Velocity before dropping it (no vote at end despite being pro-lynch in D1 postings)

3. Day 2 Second to join Kevin Wagon.

4. Day 2 Was the most aggressive if not a close second to brewers in the Kevin push.

 

 

Scum #2: Brewers

1. Day 1 Pro-Lynch

2. Day 2 Fake vote for llw

3. Day 2 Started Kevin Wagon

4. Day 2 Clear team with llw.

 

Scum #3: Velocity

1, Day 1 Pro-Lynch

2. Day 2 Refused to vote for Kevin despite Agreeing with the Wagon.

 

Its interesting both Brewers and llw did a Fos on Velocity, almost on purpose to distance themselves from him. This threw me off on brewers at first thinking ok Velocity cant be scum brewers just pointed him out, but if you think about it, Velocity FoS was an obvious one due to his reluctance to vote kevin despite agreeing with the wagon. I now think this was a fake Fos to put distance between scum. llw's FoS of Velocity also being fake.

 

It just feels like the three of them are connected and actively trying to make it seem like they're not.

 

Suspicious of:

1. Darkfox

2. Preston

 

Mostly for either being on the kevin wagon (DF) or Pro-Lynch day 1 (Preston).

 

I'm probably wrong, like usual, but this is my honest assessment of the game (no bullshit).

I like this post from you. I don't agree with most of it but you have done your own analysis without following others points and discarding Ooc reasons. But I still cannot fully ignore your earlier scummy behaviour so I will keep the vote on you still for now.

 

Velocity and jazz needs to post and vote.

As for my vote, out of the two popular options I don't see Robert as scum. In fact, I think him being pushed is sus.

 

I think the next option will bring a lot of clarification to some others things. For that reason

 

Vote Velocity

Allow me to clarify.

 

Vote: Jazzy.

 

I have a gut feeling about Jazzy, and while he is usually not super active, he is also usually not this quiet. I want to hear more from him.

Good to see the mod prod worked and iSoc2 is posting again!

 

A lot of walls to unpack. To save time I'm not going to fully talked about my overall feeling of people TL;DR statements and soft list. How are some general thoughts.

Mafia might be targeting inactives because they happen to be more on the active side. Not a agenda but just a coincidence.

Some people who were quick to count Kevin claim out, or also quick to jump on Robert statements.

Zach seems to be a following the crowd type player. As of right now.

There's still something about LWW that I can't fully explain that has my gut feeling heightened.

Much of this is pretty general and covers topics same or similar to what the thread has already discussed. Good to catch up on that.

 

The main item I want to hear more from YOU on is your last sentence. You ended D2 with a splash of taking over for the inactive Bryan and voting for LWW instead of joining any other wagon. I'd encourage you to solidify and share the basis for why you voted for LWW as your first iSoc2 post, because otherwise we have relatively little on your/Bryan's associations and that leaves you skating under the radar. See the conversation about Velocity regarding why "I could have just been inactive" is not a great defense.

 

 

Scum #1: lilweirdward

1. Day 1 Pro-Lynch

2. Day 1 Fake Vote for Velocity before dropping it (no vote at end despite being pro-lynch in D1 postings)

3. Day 2 Second to join Kevin Wagon.

4. Day 2 Was the most aggressive if not a close second to brewers in the Kevin push.

 

 

Scum #2: Brewers

1. Day 1 Pro-Lynch

2. Day 2 Fake vote for llw

3. Day 2 Started Kevin Wagon

4. Day 2 Clear team with llw.

 

Scum #3: Velocity

1, Day 1 Pro-Lynch

2. Day 2 Refused to vote for Kevin despite Agreeing with the Wagon.

 

Its interesting both Brewers and llw did a Fos on Velocity, almost on purpose to distance themselves from him. This threw me off on brewers at first thinking ok Velocity cant be scum brewers just pointed him out, but if you think about it, Velocity FoS was an obvious one due to his reluctance to vote kevin despite agreeing with the wagon. I now think this was a fake Fos to put distance between scum. llw's FoS of Velocity also being fake.

 

It just feels like the three of them are connected and actively trying to make it seem like they're not. 

 

Suspicious of:

1. Darkfox

2. Preston

 

Mostly for either being on the kevin wagon (DF) or Pro-Lynch day 1 (Preston).

 

I'm probably wrong, like usual, but this is my honest assessment of the game (no bullshit).

This looks like you're starting to copy the style of others' analysis. It's a good way to begin and it's definitely good to see your suspect list written down with a little more of what you consider substance. 

 

You seem to put a very heavy emphasis on people being Day 1 pro-lynch, but dont seem to understand the idea. Day 1 is usually a shitshow of LOL votes early on until the seemingly inevitable Lynch/NoLynch discussion begins. From my memory it's relatively uncommon for Day 1 to end in an ACTUAL lynch, either due to nobody getting near the vote threshold or everyone swapping back to no-lynch at the end. However it's valuable to see what tells people might drop early on when/if they get more serious past the LOL vote stage - is there an actual push, does any wagon actually build more than 1-2 votes and how did that happen, etc. The theory is that scum will almost always want a Day 1 lynch to start cutting down town numbers, but absent power role data all we have to start forcing people onto sides so that we can scum hunt is a wagon of people and the confirmation of whether said wagon flipped town or scum. Basically it has to start somewhere. 

 

As for Brewers and LWW on your list, I think you are mostly reacting to their more forward/aggressive posting style. They led/pushed the Kevin wagon on D2 and Robert wagon on D3. To an extent this game is about being persuasive/convincing others to side with you, and confidence/aggression in your posts is one way to go about it. 

 

As for Velocity - per the rest of D3 there's more to why they are suspicious than the two items you list, but on at least that entry we are agreed.

 

 

Mostly for either being on the kevin wagon (DF)

 

You were also on the vote for Kevin. I explained my logic and you agreed with it. I am curious why you find that suspicious now

 

On the one hand, Zacch paying attention to who was on what wagon is a step in the right direction in terms of making their otherwise random gut-feeling posts into something more coherent. It's also normal for people to ignore their own presence on a wagon because "I know I am town."

 

At this stage in the game Zacch has already accumulated a number of potential scum tell flags. Some may be just genuine newness, but a newbie can be scum as well as town. 

 

Also DF you need to get some more posts in to solidify your stance/suspect list and put down a vote - slipping inactive while others drive the thread doesn't do anyone any favors.

 

 

Town:

Me-obviously

Dark Fox- town, he knows why i am 99.9% sure he is town.  dont want to out him tho if anyone missed what happened.

lww: posts feel townish, as well as his push for kevin early.  dont feel like he would do that as scum.  now if kevin flipped scum, he could have been bussing but I dont see scum pushing that hard on a townie this early, ESPECIALLY since i was leading the charge and there would be no reason to do it since i am gonna push kevin all day anyways

Preston:  ive never played with him before so idk his play style but typically the giant quote walls go hand in hand with town players, so for now im giving him the benefit of the doubt

 

No clue:

Imran:  dont have a feeling either way.  He hasnt done anything that screams scum or town.  he is a skilled player so he could play as scum easily without being obviously scum

isocialism 2- i dont even remember who he replaced and hes posted once so I got nothing for him

Lyner:  same as imran

MK: no where near as active as he usually is, but i feel like he would be a lot more active if scum.  tho he has made some weird votes

zach:  cant tell if he is scum or just a new townish player.  it feels like he is trying hard tho so brownie points i guess

 

Scum Suspects:

Robert- ive detailed my reasoning before

Jazzy: he has been very quiet and his actions feel like he is trying to hide under the radar.  also his place on the Kevin Wagon feels like a spot where scum would hide.  im def open to voting him instead of robert

velocity:  he came out of the gate d1 saying it was a new velocity and he votes now... and then doesnt vote at all d2 and avoids the kevin wagon even tho he comments right before deadline saying he thinks kevin might be scum... feels like potental scum trying to avoid a wagon

 

[...]

 

two feels on the set up:

 

Scum is three people or scum is two people and if thanos gets all three stones half the townies die randomly

 

if scum is three people, my gut tells me that one of the scum is probably from my no clue list of people.... usually at least one scum will do a good job blending in with town, and for my suspects, usually we are good for a few townies playing poorly and looking like they are scum lol  tho there is no rafay this game thats usually his job, but kevins RC felt like a Rafay move so I guess rafay was with us in spirit

Good to see a more detailed list from Brewers rather than just a top suspect of the moment!

 

Interesting to see such confidence in DF - though the "I dont want to out him" feels like "Dont think about ..."; you're doing it by saying you DONT want to do it?

 

Much of your suspect list actually matches my own theories thus far.

 

The main difference is I"m taking a much dimmer view of iSoc2 because he posted at D2 end voting for LWW on the theory LWW wasnt actually contributing (what?), in doing so avoided all other wagons (scum vote spreading?), and then went silent until just recently following a mod poke. 

 

Regarding game setup - I /really/ hope you're wrong about the stones' effect because that sounds like an auto-win condition for the scum. There's obviously something to them since TW is tracking it so explicitly, but that interpretation would be pretty slanted.

 

I'm going to come to the defense of Zach here. He's a newer guy to at least or forums and will be a great addition for later games. His voting is scattered, but this is typically not a scummy strategy. His voting is not just an one vote on someone random but actually has weight and could put someone's wagon further into motion.

Now it does seem slight wishy-washy with his commitment of his voting and also to mention the feeling of following the wagons. But he's willing to put a lot of players at risk. If he is scum this will give us a better idea who he's mates are. But I will go with, not scum.

This is actually really interesting to see from you. Since you're currently my #2 suspect and defending my #4, does that mean you're scum allies trying to cover for each other, a scum trying to get points by defending an awkward newbie, or town doing the same? 

 

Per my earlier posts I am leery of just letting "excuse my odd behavior because I'm new" stand unchallenged, but the fact you are sticking up for him is notable. 

 

As for my vote, out of the two popular options I don't see Robert as scum. In fact, I think him being pushed is sus.

I think the next option will bring a lot of clarification to some others things. For that reason

Vote Velocity

And now my #2 suspect is voting for my #1 suspect! 

 

Given that the Velocity wagon actually may complete the day, this is a fairly strong distancing move between you and Velocity. If Velocity flips scum it won't FULLY clear you (potential scum sacrifice), but it will certainly improve your case.

 

I'd still like to see you elaborate on the 'gut feeling' you had about LWW though - I dont want to let that point drop until you've put a basis under it. 

 

We've got roughly a day and a half left before deadline. Need everyone remaining to stake your positions and get your thoughts posted before the day ends and we play the 'who doesnt wake up tomorrow' roulette. 

 

@TW can we get an updated vote count?

P.S. As I'm posting I see that Velocity himself has thrown a vote for Jazzy? Good to have a position recorded at least.

 

Given earlier theories that Velocity wanted to stay off the Kevin wagon because Jazzy was already on it, this could be a distancing move. Jazzy really does need to come back and post something solid before the day ends. 

Vote Count
 

Velocity (4): Lord MK, Lyner, Preston, iSocialism 2.0

Robert2424 (2): lilweirdward, Brewersalliance

Zacch (2): Robert2424, Imran Ehsan

Brewersalliance (1): Zacch

Jazzy95 (1): Velocity

Darkfox (0):

Imran Ehsan (0):

iSocialism2.0 (0):

lilweirdward (0):

Lord MK (0):

Lyner (0):

Preston (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Darkfox, Jazzy95

 

With 12 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline will be at 5:00PM CN Server time on Saturday, August 27th.

I'd like to point out that Velocity is now comfortably over the minimum votes needed to be lynched, and he's a good player so I'm sure he was aware of that when he last posted. Not only is he not really defending himself anymore, but he also tossed a vote on jazzy (without much effort into convincing anyone to go along with it) which doesn't help his cause at all. If he's town and any sort of power role, this is a horrible strategy, and if he's scum at all, it's also a horrible strategy. My best guess is that he's either VT (probably most likely), joker, or some niche role that gets an ability if lynched.

 

Either way, I think it's worth noting how Velocity is playing out the end of this day since it seems likely that he's going to be lynched unless something significant changes.

Well. The velocity train seems to be in full swing. I believe MK was the only one on both wagons? (I don't remember where Preston voted. ).

 

Again. It's possible I'm grilling Zacch and he's just being a new player, but it's hard with how he's acting. Even if from some it's "normal"

 

Preston making always these super long posts. You think his active he is and how much he's typing he'd be more of a topic or driver of the town, or find him saying something super scummy. It's odd to me.

 

LWW dose makes some good points. Yes we have to lynch in order to win. I just didn't find Kevin to be as scummy enough to vote off. Witch is fine. I feel it's more me not supporting the Kevin Lynch blindly I have the two votes on me anyways from the two. He's also made a good analysis on his last post about Velocity not being on it.

 

It feels wierd the interaction between Brewers and Zacch. Zacch seems convinced Brewers is scum and Brewers is just like. Eh. I don't care at all about you. Idk if Brewers just thinks he's just a noob or is trying to insult him. Or both.

 

I try to get to this game at least once a day when I'm at work. At least theres a ton to read each morning.

 

I do feel Jazzy and Darkfox should vote.

 

Irman joins me on voting Zacch and has been Grilling him.

 

And yeah. I get the sentiment that Brewers and LWW seem like partners in some way but doubt scum would just buddy up like that. Not impossible, but not super likely. I do feel there something extra there, but unsure.

 

 

And yeah. I get the sentiment that Brewers and LWW seem like partners in some way but doubt scum would just buddy up like that. Not impossible, but not super likely. I do feel there something extra there, but unsure.

 

 

fuck you got us.  lww is my multi

 

ive always said i had one... well here it is.

 

im fine with a lynch of velo.

The velocity vote on jazz looks like a distancing move to me. If velocity is lynched today and turns up scum, I think we got out 2nd scum too.

The velocity vote on jazz looks like a distancing move to me. If velocity is lynched today and turns up scum, I think we got out 2nd scum too.

I agree with this 10000%

I'd like to point out that Velocity is now comfortably over the minimum votes needed to be lynched, and he's a good player so I'm sure he was aware of that when he last posted. Not only is he not really defending himself anymore, but he also tossed a vote on jazzy (without much effort into convincing anyone to go along with it) which doesn't help his cause at all. If he's town and any sort of power role, this is a horrible strategy, and if he's scum at all, it's also a horrible strategy. My best guess is that he's either VT (probably most likely), joker, or some niche role that gets an ability if lynched.

 

Either way, I think it's worth noting how Velocity is playing out the end of this day since it seems likely that he's going to be lynched unless something significant changes.

I am *more* than a town-aligned power role.

 

I’m not really defending myself anymore because I have said all I need and wish to, and talking to you is a brick wall. If you don’t think it is enough, then that is on you. I thought Kevin’s actions looked scummy, but thought that what he did was with town intentions. Is that so hard to comprehend? lmao

And to note what brewers said, I don’t think I ever said that Kevin is scum, just that he had acted scummy.

 

Jazzy has barely posted and seemed to just want to fly under the radar by hopping on the wagon late, is posting less than usual, and my gut (while I admit could just be my hunger) tells me something is off with Jazzy. If you think I wanted to fly under the radar I would have done the opposite of way “I don’t think he’s scum” after saying he was acting scummy all day. That line of thought makes no sense to me. I said what I believed.

 

 

 

As per Robert, I don’t really think he is necessarily scum, and I don’t want to vote for him to try and save myself when I am just not confident in it, even knowing that I am town and probably shouldn’t end up dead so soon.

I think Preston is more than likely town.

I think MK is definitely town.

Not many thoughts on everyone else.

 

It is also my first mafia game in over a year, and I have a hectic RL right now so I’m missing a lot of what is being said about me and will fully admit I have not been putting 100% of the effort/time I should be into mafia yet, but I’m hoping to be able to put some walls of text out there after the next week or two (if I don’t end up lynched, of course). That’s not to cut myself any slack, but more to explain why I’m being more shit than usual if I do end up lynched. 😆

I mean you’re going to get lynched tomorrow so you might as well role claim to try to save yourself

 

Saying you are more than a town power role is stupid

 

It feels like you are implying you have an infinity stone…

Also saying town aligned is kind of weird and feels very specific instead of just saying town power role.

Are you claiming you are the collector

The whole "giving up" act ("I've said all I need to say", etc) has me split. I feel like sometimes, townies will do that when they know they're going to be mislynched and simply don't care enough to fight it, but also scum will do it sometimes because people assume that scum surely wouldn't just get lynched without putting up a fight. Idk, it doesn't move the needle for me on Velocity.

 

I will say that "something is off about jazzy" is not remotely good enough for me. That doesn't mean anything, you could say that about literally anyone. Heck iSoc 2.0 said it about me and I think Preston has been right to push on that. I am not convinced that Velocity is scum because of this - I'd like to think that he's a better player than the kind who would lamely attempt to bus his own partner as a way to make him seem less scummy after Velocity flips - but if he does flip scum then I completely agree that it makes jazzy even more suspicious.