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Mage Wars Mafia

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Hmm interesting analysis on the last 2 votes. It is agreeable that AoD's vote made unvoting and saving KevinH's neck unlikely. But I'm still pegging Carl Vincent as townie since his vote would be a vote of superfluity.

 

I want to know from AoD why he didn't unvote given the explanation that his scenarios could be prevented if a normal Doc was in play.

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we still dont know if our doc is a normal doc or not. also i didnt know the doc in the last game was a weak doc. and kevinH you are making yourself look worse by the minute, first you say you hinted at a power role then you come out and say:

 

Don't waste your lynch. I'm a townie. My role doesn't matter.

 

that is contradictory to what you've claimed earlier

 

 

@Falzis - above post is what AOD stated.

 

In all the games I've played...the doc is almost always normal. The faulty logic is to assume we start with a weak doc instead of a nomal doc. That's why I suspect AOD cuz he didn't change his vote and gave less reason to keep his vote on KevinH.

That's why I think 2 scum voted for KevinH.

One vote in the first 4 votes (I suspect EM).

One vote in the last 2 votes (I suspect AOD).

That's my reasoning for suspecting them.

 

Is is it suspicious too that both EM and AOD were the first ones to say something on D2 and both FOS/voted for people outside the KevinH bandwagon? Maybe if assuming they're scum (which right now I'm not really sure) they would like to shift the townie's focus to the other six instead.

i voted kevin because his posts were all over the place. and as for the doc statement, just because i considered the weak doc theory doesnt make me scum.

 

also consider it like this, since kevinH was a vig, we might have lost a 3rd person anyways, going on the possibility on him not having a choice to use his NK or not.

 

and also i FoS'd Kaziocore long before day 2 even started.

awfully quiet here during the weekend...

 

and falzis, it's like this... CD is at EM's neck as you say but he's trying to lynch AoD anyway. that and it's my gut feeling. (weak reason isn't it??)

Vote: angel of doom

 

For voting KevinH with the disproven scenario of a "Weak Doc", voting 5th making it less likely for any unvote to save KevinH (this vote of mine is also applicable to Carl Vincent but I perceive his vote as superfluous). And to catalyze discussion.

Vote: angel of doom

 

For voting KevinH with the disproven scenario of a "Weak Doc", voting 5th making it less likely for any unvote to save KevinH (this vote of mine is also applicable to Carl Vincent but I perceive his vote as superfluous). And to catalyze discussion.

 

where in this thread has the weak doc theory been disproved? also that wasn't my only reason for voting for him and you know it. sure the weak doc theory may be a stretch but its still a possibility

and the, "he didnt unvote so he must be scum" argument is weak as hell. so i take it that we're going to try and lynch anyone who puts the 2nd to last or last vote if the person lynched is town?

 

and while i'm at it. the "oh since he didnt unvote kevinH couldnt be saved" talking point is crap. there were 5 others besides me who could have just as easily unvoted and saved his neck. but they didnt because he didnt role claim and his votes and posts were all over the place.

That wasn't one of my reasons. I said your vote made it unlikely for others to unvote and save KevinH's neck.
I've seen people reading this thread and not commenting. Why so (un)serious? Give your inputs guys.
awfully quiet here during the weekend...

 

and falzis, it's like this... CD is at EM's neck as you say but he's trying to lynch AoD anyway. that and it's my gut feeling. (weak reason isn't it??)

 

 

I suspect both but put my vote on someone who has a higher % of being scum (in my opinion).

@AOD - these are all the posts you made since you voted for KevinH.

 

i've had some time to consider the possible outcomes.

 

1.) we dont lynch kevinH and he turns out to be a power role, he helps us.

 

2.) we dont lynch KevinH and he turns out to be scum, and if the doc decides to help him the doc will end up dead and we'll be down 3 people before the 2nd day even starts.(lynch, doc, and the mafia target)

 

3.) we lynch him and he's a power role. doesnt cripple the town but does hurt none the less.

 

with that in mind

 

unvote

vote:KevinH

 

the chances of loosing more ppl than needed is to high to risk not lynching you.

 

This is where you went wrong. You thought we might have a weak doc and we would lose an extra townie.

 

so your bandwagoning?

 

also vote count please?

 

You call out Carl Vincent for bandwagonning

 

we still dont know if our doc is a normal doc or not. also i didnt know the doc in the last game was a weak doc. and kevinH you are making yourself look worse by the minute, first you say you hinted at a power role then you come out and say:

 

Don't waste your lynch. I'm a townie. My role doesn't matter.

 

that is contradictory to what you've claimed earlier

 

You realize that you don't know if it is a normal doc or a weak doc.

Says KevinH is contridicting himself.

 

you say this.......

 

 

 

then turn around and say this......

 

 

about your OMGUS vote

 

 

it is completely opposite to your first statement.

 

vote: Kaziocore

 

Day 2 and you vote for Kaziocore.

 

that is true, however

 

 

this.................

 

is clearly a joke vote

 

 

this however........

 

is a OMGUS

 

and Carl Vincent didnt say a thing about being confused about random voting, he was confused about the no lynch not being a normal thing.

 

Defending your vote on Kaziocore.

 

he acted in no way like his previous games. he was all over the place in his voting and posting.

 

@molestargazer

 

and just because someone didnt vote for kevinH doesnt mean that they arnt scum.

 

Defending your vote on Kaziocore.

 

no it was for my earlier post

 

 

and i'm giving a notice that i wont be on tomorrow and most likely saturday cause i'm moving.

 

Clarification to EM.

 

i voted kevin because his posts were all over the place. and as for the doc statement, just because i considered the weak doc theory doesnt make me scum.

 

also consider it like this, since kevinH was a vig, we might have lost a 3rd person anyways, going on the possibility on him not having a choice to use his NK or not.

 

and also i FoS'd Kaziocore long before day 2 even started.

 

You never mentioned that your vote was cuz KevinH was all over the place. Hindsight is 20/20. Yes we might have lost a 3rd townie but he also had a chance to take out a scum too (low odds they may be).

 

where in this thread has the weak doc theory been disproved? also that wasn't my only reason for voting for him and you know it. sure the weak doc theory may be a stretch but its still a possibility

 

Where has the weak doc theory been proved?

How many games have you played and immediately think...oh...we have a weak doc and a cop?

 

and the, "he didnt unvote so he must be scum" argument is weak as hell. so i take it that we're going to try and lynch anyone who puts the 2nd to last or last vote if the person lynched is town?

 

and while i'm at it. the "oh since he didnt unvote kevinH couldnt be saved" talking point is crap. there were 5 others besides me who could have just as easily unvoted and saved his neck. but they didnt because he didnt role claim and his votes and posts were all over the place.

 

And that is why I have chosen to focus on the remaining 5 people who voted for KevinH. Out of the 5...I have suspected EM and you.

But if you're claiming to be townie...who do you want me to shift my attention to if not you?

 

You have you're vote on Kaziocore him not acting that way in previous games. As far as I'm aware...this is his second game (I think). I would still consider him a newbie. But I'll re-read Kaziocore's post and try to see what you see.

 

BTW...I still have my vote on you.

You have you're vote on Kaziocore him not acting that way in previous games. As far as I'm aware...this is his second game (I think). I would still consider him a newbie. But I'll re-read Kaziocore's post and try to see what you see.

 

never said my vote was for him acting different from earlier games. never played with him before now so i dont know his play style.

 

QUOTE (angel of doom @ Aug 27 2009, 06:39 AM) *he acted in no way like his previous games. he was all over the place in his voting and posting.@molestargazerand just because someone didnt vote for kevinH doesnt mean that they arnt scum.Defending your vote on Kaziocore.

 

that was a defense of my vote of KevinH not kaziocore, just to clarify

Mole and Martino were one of the biggest pushers for Kevin's death. Martino's death scene is proof of his innocence, leaving Mole as the only one left alive who built the case against Kevin. It would seem that Mole would be the next rational choice for suspicion but Mole haven't drawn any suspicion from anyone. I tend to think that Mole is most likely townie since he stuck his neck out but I tend to think a little different from most. If I had lead the charge instead of Mole, I would expect people to start pointing fingers at me.

 

Is it weird that I tend to give him townie points for sticking his neck out and giving his opinion, but I find it odd that no one else thinks he's suspicious?

Mole and Martino were one of the biggest pushers for Kevin's death. Martino's death scene is proof of his innocence, leaving Mole as the only one left alive who built the case against Kevin. It would seem that Mole would be the next rational choice for suspicion but Mole haven't drawn any suspicion from anyone. I tend to think that Mole is most likely townie since he stuck his neck out but I tend to think a little different from most. If I had lead the charge instead of Mole, I would expect people to start pointing fingers at me.

 

Is it weird that I tend to give him townie points for sticking his neck out and giving his opinion, but I find it odd that no one else thinks he's suspicious?

 

No it wouldn't be odd. You are entitled to your opinion. KevinH suspected mole prior to his lynch.

You have you're vote on Kaziocore him not acting that way in previous games. As far as I'm aware...this is his second game (I think). I would still consider him a newbie. But I'll re-read Kaziocore's post and try to see what you see.

 

never said my vote was for him acting different from earlier games. never played with him before now so i dont know his play style.

 

QUOTE (angel of doom @ Aug 27 2009, 06:39 AM) *he acted in no way like his previous games. he was all over the place in his voting and posting.@molestargazerand just because someone didnt vote for kevinH doesnt mean that they arnt scum.Defending your vote on Kaziocore.

 

that was a defense of my vote of KevinH not kaziocore, just to clarify

 

 

Re-read that post and yes...I can see it now was about KevinH being all over the place.

Of course that post was after KevinH being lynched.

I'll have to give it some more thought but I will leave my vote on you for now.

Mole and Martino were one of the biggest pushers for Kevin's death. Martino's death scene is proof of his innocence, leaving Mole as the only one left alive who built the case against Kevin. It would seem that Mole would be the next rational choice for suspicion but Mole haven't drawn any suspicion from anyone. I tend to think that Mole is most likely townie since he stuck his neck out but I tend to think a little different from most. If I had lead the charge instead of Mole, I would expect people to start pointing fingers at me.

 

Is it weird that I tend to give him townie points for sticking his neck out and giving his opinion, but I find it odd that no one else thinks he's suspicious?

 

I still think mole is townie just because it would be too obvious for scum to push for a lynch and like previous games, it's usually those who lead the charge in lynching someone that are townie (like I did in previous game/s).

Plus mole got lucky anyway. Had KevinH not cracked re his power role I would assume there would have been less discontent with KevinH's inconsistency and scattered posts.

@Narsis - can we get a prod on some that haven't posted in a while?

 

Prods sent.

Edited by Narsis

Carl Vincent - 2 (Falzis, Sir Jesus)

junkahoolik - 1 (Kaziocore)

 

 

Falzis and Sir Jesus - Do you still think that Carl Vincent is still the most suspicious? What, if anything, has changed your mind.

 

Junkahoolik, same question.

@EM - so out of the remaining 5 people who voted for KevinH...please name 2 that you suspect as possible scum.
i've kind'a been away these days mostly. i'll reread now then post something. and i think i promised a case against someone... i'm gonna take my time on it i think for a few more days... see how the target is acting and such :P
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