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[Falzis]

Plus the main reason I was withholding my vote is because I was still waiting for KevinH to role claim to be able to weight the costs-benefits and maybe get more information to use for discussion in the following days.

[CanucksDynasty]

@Narsis - can we get some prods again?

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Where did everyone go?
We have 4 days left before deadline and we are getting no where fast.


@Kaziocore - what are your thoughts on AOD and CV seeing as they have the most votes now?

[molestargazer]

The two votes I labelled as slightly off in my quick re-read of votes are Angel of Doom and Carl Vincent. Of the two, AoD seems more scummy to me since the reasoning that was used relies on setup-guessing rather than scum-guessing.
I am still willing to let CV off the hook for now, but I do hope that his posting picks up and sheds some light on all this.

There's still time to change. I'm working tomorrow, but I hope to get in a full read of AoD before deadline and decide if it really is the way to go.

Vote: Angel of Doom

[Kaziocore]

@Kaziocore - what are your thoughts on AOD and CV seeing as they have the most votes now?

Between AOD and CV, AOD seems more scummy to me.

Personally, I think CV is a townie. CV's recklessness for voting KevinH could be a town tell. If he's scum, most of the time he'll have second thoughts joining a bandwagon or something because he believes it would look scummy to the others (like theo in the last game who suddenly placed the banhammer to EM). And about his absence on D2, he could just be busy with college just like what he said before. I remember when SJ was scum and was not posting often in the last game I could see him viewing the game in the last day but not CV. I've never seen him visiting this game since D2.

And now, I'm suspicious of both AOD and EM (only one could be scum because I just feel that only 1 scum voted for KevinH).

where in this thread has the weak doc theory been disproved? also that wasn't my only reason for voting for him and you know it. sure the weak doc theory may be a stretch but its still a possibility

I don't like that he used the weak doc theory as a reason to vote KevinH. What are the chances that this game has a weak doc because normally the doctor is a regular doctor. It's like saying I won't go outside because I'll get diseases or something (I couldn't think of a better comparison or something).

Even though you said that it's not the only reason for voting KevinH, when I read this post it looks like you only started to vote KevinH because of your weak doc theory.

i've had some time to consider the possible outcomes.

1.) we dont lynch kevinH and he turns out to be a power role, he helps us.

2.) we dont lynch KevinH and he turns out to be scum, and if the doc decides to help him the doc will end up dead and we'll be down 3 people before the 2nd day even starts.(lynch, doc, and the mafia target)

3.) we lynch him and he's a power role. doesnt cripple the town but does hurt none the less.

with that in mind

unvote
vote:KevinH

the chances of loosing more ppl than needed is to high to risk not lynching you.

That's the only reason for me to be suspicious of him.

And now about EM...

Aside from what Sir Jesus has said (his reasons were really convincing for me). This post is also suspicious

Bad news is that KevinH was a townie after all, but judging by there being only 1 nk, it would appear that there are no sk's.

Martino was the one targeted, which is kind of odd in a way. Martino and Mole were the ones who did the most to lead the charge against KevinH. With Martino gone, it leaves Mole as the primary pusher of Kevin's death. This makes me think that scum wanted to set it up this way so we would go after Mole next. Also Martino was one of our most veteran players, taking him 1st is what I expect other veterans to do as well.

Something tells me that there were more scum that did not vote for KevinH then there was that voted for him.

CD is the first one that comes to my mind. His late unvote on KevinH seemed suspicious, as if he wanted to seperate himself from lynching a known townie. He's also smart enough to know that the scum stand a better chance of winning if the vets are taken out 1st. He may also be after revenge for being nightkilled so fast in the last game by Martino and SJ.

FOS CD

If he's scum he could have planned to immediately change the focus of the townie to outside the KevinH bandwagon by FOSing someone who is also suspicious. Only 1 of the reason for FOSing CD is okay with me which is the first but the the other two of his reasons are bad.

It's hard to choose who to vote from the two but right now I guess I'll vote for EM. I'll FOS AOD too.

FOS AOD
vote: EM

So this day I'll only vote for either EM or AOD unless someone became more suspicious than the two.

[angel of doom]

@everyone

besides my weak doc theory is there any other reason you have suspensions of me?


and i cant exactly back down off my theory i'll be considered as backing down in the face of pressure and staying with my theory hasnt helped me much either. so i'm in a catch 22 situation

i guess what i'm trying to say is if you have any other big reasons besides the weak doc one i'd love to hear them

[Falzis]

Bye guys. 3 days gone. If there's net in the province, I could check here. If not, I'm still not unvoting because I haven't heard a good defense from AoD. (I'm still here in an hour or two, I know you're there AoD so if you want me to unvote, make a good case for yourself or against somebody else).

[angel of doom]

Bye guys. 3 days gone. If there's net in the province, I could check here. If not, I'm still not unvoting because I haven't heard a good defense from AoD. (I'm still here in an hour or two, I know you're there AoD so if you want me to unvote, make a good case for yourself or against somebody else).

defense for what? all i did was suggest a weak doc possibility and read my above post

[Falzis]

i also voted for you because of the timing of your vote.

[Sir Jesus]

I feel like the evidence against EM is far more substantial than that of AoD's. To me, it seems like AoD is playing semi-actively and his timing was just off. Other than that, all he has done is think outside the box. I agree with everyone else that the weak doc idea is mostly ludicrous (no offense AoD), but it was a bad decision he made. Not a scummy one, at least in my eyes.

Keep in mind that AoD may have seemed like a bandwagoner, but Electric Mango was the first and most responsive to KevinH's hint at a roleclaim. This is an obvious scumtell, since the bad guys hate any non-scum powerrole. I would/did not have voted for someone because they have a role and didn't want to tell everyone.

I'm almost certain that EM is scum. Enough to bet my own life.

[junkahoolik]

How is this an FOS of everyone? It's only an FOS of EM for misrepping me.

As for commitment, KevinH looked scummy but I had doubts. That's why I couldn't commit because even though he looked scummy I felt he was town.

it's not just that post... this the post i realized that you were doing the thing that you were doing... or what i think you were doing... or whatever... i'm too drunk to be coherent... sorry mole, i remember you said something about being drunk and scum hunting not mixing well together...

btw, i noticed a lot of other guys posting... i'll reread everything in the morning hopefully...i ain't got a word you all said now

g'nigh y'all!!

[Narsis]

Thought I'd make a post this time around.

First:

The "Almost There" VC

Carl Vincent - 2 (angel of doom, junkahoolik)
angel of doom - 3 (CanucksDynasty, Falzis, molestargazer)
Electric Mango - 2 (Sir Jesus, Kaziocore)

Not voting - 3 (Theophilos, Electric Mango, Carl Vincent)


Second, Carl Vincent hasn't responded to any prods as of yet. I have a couple replacements I'll be talking with etc.

[angel of doom]

dang i was hoping i didnt need to pull this card until much later on but, i have a protown power role. i dont know how much info i can give without being mod killed. but i can say you will be loosing a very important role if i get lynched

You can paraphrase. emphasis on paraphrase. feel free to pm me what you want to post ahead of time and i can give you approval.

Edited by Narsis, 05 September 2009 - 05:58 AM.

[junkahoolik]

heh... too early for coming out of the closet if you ask me...

[junkahoolik]

well, i didn't lose much last night it seems... so, back to my thoughts on d1 about some other guys:

CD: in 118, you were trying to rationalize your vote when it was unneeded. it sounds kind'a odd since i don't think a townie feels like he has to excuse himself for voting in that situation.

in 131, who were you referring to exactly??




EM: is that a bit of gloating i see at the start of the day??


and also, i don't like how you and CD are FOSing each other and voting for other people...




and, last but not least, Theo..

in post 169 you seem to appear out of the blue and vote for someone. huh??

[angel of doom]

well i'm going to pull a kevinH here, reread my posts and figure it out

[Falzis]

Unvote

Vote: Electric Mango

If AoD is pro town, we should save him. But on one condition. That next day, he should reveal what power role he has or what information he has that will help the town (if cop or whatnot and who he investigated). If he doesn't, we lynch him.

I switched to EM because next to AoD he is now the most suspicious given SJ's reasons. If EM turns up town, we go for AoD.

[Kaziocore]

If AoD is pro town, we should save him. But on one condition. That next day, he should reveal what power role he has or what information he has that will help the town (if cop or whatnot and who he investigated). If he doesn't, we lynch him.

But I don't know. He could be nked because he said he has a pro town role.

[angel of doom]

what kind of bass ackwards logic is that? there has been no ling between me and EM at all and you wanna try to create one by saying, oh if EM is town then AoD must be scum.

[junkahoolik]

But I don't know. He could be nked because he said he has a pro town role.

so, you want to lynch him for that?? huuuuuh??

[angel of doom]

EBWOP

ling=link