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[Narsis]

The whole point of grouping into rooms was to deny the scum the chance to move to an adjacent room and do an action. I doubt that the rules were changed by only telling the power roles but not the rest of us. I'm still not clear what it means when rule 5 is still in effect but there is another mechanic that we won't know.

I think we should still group into rooms like we did the first night.

well we can either group together again, however i think that would be detrimental considering the mechanics change. the only case where it is really beneficial at all is in the original. we may not know whether they can move or not, but it would still prevent them from targetting who they want.

personally, i think a max spread would work. except in the original case, grouping together just inst really that beneficial imo.

although...if we grouped suspected mafia in say area 1 and suspected townies in area 9, with the rest sort of floating around towards area 1, it might help a bit.

VOTE COUNT
junkahoolik (3): Martino, Firkked, Aquinas
SinKon (3): Falzis, CanucksDynasty, Narsis
KevinH (1): Electric Mango
Falzis (1): Junkahoolik


Not Voting (4): KevinH, Sir Jesus, SinKon, Kaziocore

With 12 alive, 7 is needed to lynch.

Edited by molestargazer, 01 December 2009 - 08:41 PM.

[Electric Mango]

To quote Southwest, "We are now free to move about the cabin".

At least that's what I get from Mole's rule change.

That said, I still think we should stick to our original plan. That will ensure that the rest of the plane gets investigated and the chance of a townie getting the item(s) vs mafia will be increased. No use having a townie spend the night in a room we have already stayed the night in. Also I don't want our last 3 days spend debating best room placement, I would rather focus on scum hunting.

[Narsis]

the thing is both Falzis and Kevin said they didnt get an item...and neither did i. so one of them is lying, or we didnt get any items...

[Martino]

I'd also suggest that we stick to the original plan. Yes, most likely the movement restriction was removed, but there is the slight chance that it did not get removed. In that case, it will be highly advantageous for us to stick to the original plan. I don't really see any drawbacks from sticking to the original plan, so that is why I think we should still divide into the other four rooms.

Anyway, I also agree that we shouldn't spent too much time on this discussion. I too would like to hear from those that haven't voted yet.

[Electric Mango]

Well we occupied 1/2 the rooms, if we occupy the other 1/2 tonight someone is assured to receive an item. The town greatly out numbers the mafia so we have good odds of getting the item if we stick to the plan.

I don't know if anyone is going to say if they received an item or not.....

Maybe a townie got it night 1 but can't use it until tonight so they didn't want to admit they have one and be a prime target for mafia when today ends.

[Narsis]

Well we occupied 1/2 the rooms, if we occupy the other 1/2 tonight someone is assured to receive an item. The town greatly out numbers the mafia so we have good odds of getting the item if we stick to the plan.

I don't know if anyone is going to say if they received an item or not.....

Maybe a townie got it night 1 but can't use it until tonight so they didn't want to admit they have one and be a prime target for mafia when today ends.

even so...i would be interested to find if anyone did find any kind of item, and how it works.

[CanucksDynasty]

I agree with Martino and EM in staying in the same groups and in the other half of the rooms (2, 3, 6, 9).
Increases the chance of townies getting an item and prevents mafia from being the only one in a room that may contain an item.

[KevinH]

personally, i think a max spread would work. except in the original case, grouping together just inst really that beneficial imo.

We need to give the cop somebody to investigate so we shouldn't max spread. I think we have a quorum agreeing to stick with the original plan.

Vote: Sir Jesus

He's as likely as anybody to be scum and I want active townies in the end game.

[Falzis]

the thing is both Falzis and Kevin said they didnt get an item...and neither did i. so one of them is lying, or we didnt get any items...

there could have been no item in our room. mole didn't say there is an item in every room did he?

[SinKon]

MOD: I am here.

[SinKon]

even so...i would be interested to find if anyone did find any kind of item, and how it works.

So we should got with max spread thing since the room thingy doesn't matter anymore right?
Well...back to random hit. Well... not really random

Vote: KevinH

I vote for KevinH because EM is voting for him, and I believe he misleaded me into thinking a no-lynch strategy is good, might not be the case, but thats how I feel. Also, why would he vote for Sir Jesus? He is active and this doesn't feel right. Didn't Sir Jesus supported no-lynch on day 1 and sort of on his side. Yeah he switched and voted for me after I went britney spears on him I though KevinH said he wouldn't take a bad reason to lynch someone and Sir Jesus posted before me! If anything, he should've voted for me. Also, the prospect of a 3 horses race intrigues me.
Lets make people switch vote and ask them why later... so much fun! LOL

Vote: KevinH

[junkahoolik]

doubt it would have been SJ that is scum. i'm too good'a prime target for a lynch and he was in the same room as me. of course, if the rules were changed because mafia complained about them, then it would have been prudent to wait another day before nk-ing. still, i don't think he's scum.

[KevinH]

I vote for KevinH ... I believe he misleaded me into thinking a no-lynch strategy is good, might not be the case, but thats how I feel. Also, why would he vote for Sir Jesus? He is active and this doesn't feel right. Didn't Sir Jesus supported no-lynch on day 1 and sort of on his side.

I don't have any strong pro-scum feelings regarding Sir Jesus, but I think he's possibly a scum doing a good job appearing pro-town.

He's as likely as anybody to be scum and I want active townies in the end game.

My vote was based on these posts:

I'm posting in here, but won't be able to contribute at the moment.

RL is killing me.

It's nothing more than that.

I though KevinH said he wouldn't take a bad reason to lynch someone and Sir Jesus posted before me! If anything, he should've voted for me.

Are you saying there's a good reason to vote for you?
I don't see anything worthy of putting a 4th vote on you.

I still think no-lynch is a viable strategy and it wouldn't break my heart if nobody gets enough votes to be lynched.

[Aquinas]

I don't have any strong pro-scum feelings regarding Sir Jesus, but I think he's possibly a scum doing a good job appearing pro-town.

My vote was based on these posts:

It's nothing more than that.

Are you saying there's a good reason to vote for you?
I don't see anything worthy of putting a 4th vote on you.

I still think no-lynch is a viable strategy and it wouldn't break my heart if nobody gets enough votes to be lynched.

I was concerned about this as well. However, now that we are missing our night movement rule we need not be as concerned about inactives. Although, it is a shame we don't need to shove them off right away. That said, I am glad you are voting based on an issue that concerns you. Welcome to the team .

[Electric Mango]

I'm interested to see what actions the players who have not voted yet take.

Not voting: Sir Jesus, SinKon, Kaziocore

[Narsis]

sinkon voted for kevin.

[CanucksDynasty]

Unofficial Vote Count

junkahoolik (3): Martino, Firkked, Aquinas
SinKon (3): Falzis, CanucksDynasty, Narsis
KevinH (2): Electric Mango, SinKon
Falzis (1): Junkahoolik
Sir Jesus (1): KevinH

Not Voting (2): Sir Jesus, Kaziocore


We have a few days left and haven't reached a half-majority (ie. 4 votes) yet.

@Sir Jesus and Kaziocore - make your votes heard.

[Kaziocore]

Since I said earlier that I think SinKon is townie and that I believe that lynching will be good for townie...

Vote: junkahoolik

I'm not really sure who the scum here in this game so I picked him instead (he is likely to be scum like everybody else). This is like D1 of the other games where you're not really sure who the scum is except that there are rooms with items and if there is a cop, he already investigated 1 person.

[KevinH]

This is like D1 of the other games where you're not really sure who the scum is except that there are rooms with items and if there is a cop, he already investigated 1 person.

I agree.
... which is why not lynching is not terrible.

[junkahoolik]

I agree.
... which is why not lynching is not terrible.

actually, d1 already passed. this is like d2 when mafia didn't nk. which is why nl could make sense.