Downside to an 18-person game is how much effort it takes to do a comprehensive review of the entire game roster. I've spoken at greater length previously about my main suspects - KevinH, Lyner, Lego/D34TH - with side comments about others as they struck my interest with notable posts, but less comprehensive about it. However as everyone seems to be posting full lists and Lyner just pointedly poked me to do so, here is a list of everyone and my notes about them with town/scum impressions as i see it. This is obviously going to end up long, so sorry in advance...
legoboyvdlp - Current vote leader. Claimed early on as vanilla townie, and generally tried very hard to prove himself town on D1 before people got serious. Commented that it was unlikely to get the same scum team again, which is self-serving as last game he was scum. Constant back-and-forth with D34TH. Ultimately said his death could be used to help focus on the people voting for him, which struck me as an odd thing for a townie to say. Kevin supported this Lynch wagon with a "hypothetical" scenario - which is a departure from his usual stats-based posting style - however Kevin's vote is still on Rafay.
Notable question: Samus pointed out Lego said he broke/stretched the massclaim rule by roleclaiming too early, but did he ever actually SAY TW said something about it? Because if TW had to say something, that would almost serve to confirm Lego as town... I dont think he would have commented if Lego's claim was a fakeclaim.
Argument for Lego being scum is that he tried too early to say "I was scum last game so I can't be this game" with his comment about prior game scum, early VT roleclaim, and generally trying to remove himself from being a suspect immediately through 'proving' his towniness.
Argument for Lego being town is that he tried too hard because he was lynched early last game as scum, and that other people have advocated for his lynch while not voting for it themselves - i.e. scummy behavior on part of those who want him lynched, which would paint him as town.
D34THBR1NG3R - Has been focused heavily on Lego from the start. Had a minor slip-up at one point about when Lego had posted,demonstrating his emphasis on trying to get Lego lynched. Had a moment of calling Finster "confirmed town" early on D1. Had a comment on D1 about "If I now vote for Rafay people will think I'm scum for voting right after you said that" - i.e. saying aloud that he was explicitly avoiding doing a scummy thing. Potential explanation would be scum jumping on an existing wagon that seemed to be going somewhere, and was unable or unwilling to back off of it - until just now. His recent abandoning of his Lego focus makes me think he is recognizing the potential shift away from a Lego wagon and he says pointedly it would get himself killed. If he is scum then I suspect Finster is actually town, as the "confirmed town" plug would be to get a townie on his side.
Samus - Has largely stayed quiet, partially on premise of not expecting to survive N1. Not enough to really evaluate, though has had a few relevant points to make which shows some contribution. Just brought up the question about whether Lego was actually reprimanded by TW, which potentially could shift the entire Lego debate. Otherwise difficult to evaluate.
Chaplain of death - Responded frequently to Ali's D1 attacks on me, supporting the responses I gave and generally saying what I had meant in other ways, which helped validate that I was not being unclear in how I was writing. Overall townie feel, if only for that reason and him seeing what I saw.
Ali bin Turban - Started off on D1 casting me as a potential scum on the basis of my having seemed to support Lego, who he strongly feels is scum. Active with detailed posts and analysis, but on D1 he moved beyond just trying to examine me to actively attacking me and trying to turn my words around, almost to the exclusion of Lego whom he said was his initial scum suspect. Eventually backed off after what he claims was a misunderstanding in my words that CoD pointed out. Still looking at him with a slight scum feel due to how hard he was attacking me and stretching to make his case, but he is not my top suspect.
Finster Baby - Less active, but making comments I can agree with. Took notice of D34TH's recent "back pedaling" as he put it. Lyner caught him inconsistent about no-lynch on D1, but given Finster's vote cycling in the prior game I don't find that as odd, strangely. Seems to see Lego as more likely inept town versus scum making a mistake, though earlier on he seemed more to believe Lego was scum based on Lego's D2 reactions. Also FoS'd Ali based on his wall-of-text attacks on me D1. I'm inclined to say town here.
KevinH - Inscrutable as ever, but the few deviations from his stock statistics-based posts show him encouraging lynches that he is not always voting for - Rafay on D1 and Lego on D2 - and votes were indeed cast for those wagons after his input on them. Tried to cast critical opinions on his D1 behavior as "lies", which did not sit well with me either as it felt defensive on his part. My current vote because that kind of manipulation feels scummy to me.
Lyner - Similar to Kevin, encouraged Rafay lynch while keeping his own vote on no-lynch - at a time that no-lynch was by no means certain how the day was going to end. This struck me as the same manipulative scummy move that Kevin was doing, and so he was my D1 vote. On D2 he was quiet at first (as were we all), but he has gotten a little more active recently. On D2 he seems to support Lego being town, claiming Lego's claim was conclusive because it would have been a huge risk for scum. I disagree on it being conclusive. Lyner prompted Kevin for a post about his analysis, etc - prompting/supporting Kevin whom I also find suspicious at this stage.
Sister Midnight - Overall newish and trying, points out her own newness but at least is trying to contribute. Notable actions included voting for Rafay despite saying in her own post how the speed of his wagon building felt strange, seemingly contradicting herself, and a late-D1 vote after no lynch was effectively settled upon. Currently voting for Lego, but hedged her vote by saying she changes her mind a lot.
Preston - Me, elaborating on my thoughts to everyone. Sorry again for the wall of text.
Canik - Overall comes across as town. Seems fairly even-headed, observed/agreed with me about Lyner and Kevin's suspicious activity. Seems to be neutral about Lego at the moment, leaning positive despite Lego seeming to take Canik's response as an attack. Voting Rafay due to inactivity/lurking.
Rhizoctonia - Generally town feel in the sense that he comments on things that also catch my eye and vice versa. Recently pointed out a very interesting contradiction about 1ceCream's D1 behavior. Currently seems to feel Lego and D34TH are both newbies attacking each other, and is voting for Kevin.
Wolfpacks - Currently voting *NO LYNCH*??? Which does not sit right with me at all as it makes no sense on D2, and his unvoting from Legoboy has the flavor of trying to bail from that wagon as public opinion shifts away from that being a 'safe' conclusion. Otherwise had Maz and Legoboy and Rafay as his targets D1, with FOSes on the latter two. I'm actually leaning potential scum on Wolfpacks based on his support for existing popular wagons and backpedaling when lego's wagon support seemed to be wavering.
iSocialism - Currently voting for Kevin, and has been a little quiet. Says he thinks Lego and Rafay may both be town, but Rafay he would have seen lynched yesterday due to being a distraction. Voted Lego on D1 instead of Rafay, because at least Rafay had voted at that point. Overall I think this is town looking for wagons beyond the obvious options being presented, which is a good sign I think.
1ceCream - Active in other threads, quiet here. Same rationale as Mazu to avoid posting due to newness and fear of seeming scummy - but didn't have as much of a problem with that on D1 when he was watching Death, Lego, and Finster. Had a contradiction that Rhizo pointed out recently, where he started off saying Lynching was better than NL, then later was NL supporting. Most notable for the early game interaction with Lego and D34TH. Kept a FoS on D34TH after his 'confirmed town' statement on Finster. I feel neutral about 1ceCream with a very slight scum leaning, due primarily to how willing he was to scumhunt on d1 but on d2 posted he was afraid of making a mistake... were you not afraid D1?
Mazuurek - Lumping him in with Rafay in terms of not really participating. He posts more, but much of his posts contain little-to-no content and he just jumps on wagons without explanation or elaborating on his thoughts. Stated he thinks he has nothing to contribute and that's one reason why he's so quiet. Hard to tell if this is just a defense so he can lurk as scum, or whether he's genuinely that unwilling to try and play the game. His inactivity is on par with Rafay almost - but that gives me very little to say scum or town wise. His vote for Lego just now feels like his usual bandwagoning vote with no explanation given.
Rafay - Barely posted at all, but DID have a post at the very beginning of the day - showing he was active enough to see that. Very likely lurking at this point. If he was simply inactive I'd be less inclined to let wagons on him go, but that early post is a bit telling. Only problem is he apparently lurks EVERY game, so unable to tell if that's a scum tell on him or not. A wagon built on him rather quickly on D1 which struck me as suspicious, and made me think of him as town due to a potential scum push on an "easy" D1 lynch that ended up not happening. I'm wondering if we could consider asking TW to simply replace Rafay if he doesn't get more active, to remove this distraction altogether.
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So my updated list as a result of all this:
Scum suspects: KevinH, Lyner, Lego/D34TH (latter two may be downgraded to 'scum feel' based on recent posts)
Scum feel: 1ceCream, Wolfpacks
Town feel: ChaplainOfDeath, iSocialism, Rhizo, Finster
WTF Guys Actually Play The Game You Signed Up For: Rafay, Mazuurek (and to a degree 1ceCream here too)
My vote still rests on KevinH
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Bleh. I have spent way too long reviewing the thread at this point, so I am going to stop here. I'll look at further posts in the morning.
-Preston
Addendum: And I'm tired enough that I can't sum my own lists right at the end
Add Canik under Town feel there at the end, since can't edit.
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