Canik

Sorry everyone! Some RL stuff came up and I just forgot about the game TBH. xD Hmm.. so it seems it's down to Medved & SBG vs Robert.. and me? Not sure how I fit in there but okay.. I got a non-guilty on Robert N4. Missed N5. So to me it's either Rafay & Robert are a scum team or Medved & SBG. I can only trust my own investigations and I know I'm either sane or insane.

Hmm.. well, since no one has counter-claimed I guess it probably was an honest mistake. Btw people I think we only have two days left right? These days are a little shorter than usual. Who are we going to lynch? Medved or Rafay would reveal my sanity and are who I'd prefer. Some good points have been raised against Rafay so I am rather 50/50 now on who we lynch there. or Jazzy or Robert, which would reveal SBGs sanity. (and that is what he'd prefer I'm sure xD) As long as we kill one of them, scum will be a bad position as I don't think they can kill both WP and the person learning their sanity. Meaning we're sure to get at least 1 more investigate. Maybe two with MK's 1-shot as well.

So you're claiming you made two actions in one night.. is that even possible? I've never heard of that happening before..

Good job town! And good job Kitkat for fooling me early on. Your "mistake" seemed so geniune town would've had a hard time convincing me to vote for you. BUT YOU KEPT KILLING ME ANYWAY, WHY?! xD @TW - I would also like to see scum logs. but if nothing else, can you just tell me if I blocked a kill N1? When I protected Brewers?

N1 - investigated Rafay got not guilty N2 - investigated Brewers got no result N3 - investigated MedVed got a guilty result on him So I am either a sane cop or another insane cop. MedVed did vote to lynch Mandarijn last turn but it was only after Mandys fate was sealed. His getting guilty on everyone could just be a convenient cover for scum too so I'm leaning towards him actually being scum. Vote: MedVed

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I see what you're saying. If the accepted meta is that scum won't push for a town lynch early and everyone assumes that makes that person town then scum can do that and no one will suspect. Still.. meta is meta for a reason. It's so risky for scum to make that play. If Mandy does flip town, there's a very good chance TW would be next. So while I kinda feel you on that.. I'm going to take a leap of faith on TW for now. He's made the best arguments thus far IMO. Vote: Mandarijn

I investigated Rafay and he showed not guilty.

Look at who voted for him. Who voted for who? Less pronouns please. Use ppls name, helps avoid confusion.

I'm confused, this makes it sound like it's dependent on the player's number. P1 + P3 = 4? Like, I'm P10 so if I added my vote would it = 14? Or is it each persons vote counts as 1?

This will end well. Vote Rafay For playing the race card

Immediate would be more interesting IMO. But it would also make the role stronger since Cop can reveal results the same day, before Mafia get a chance to kill him at night. So some adjustment in balance would be needed if you do go with immediate results.

I'm in. btw will Day Cop get results immediately?

Wow, killed again. I assume this is because of my race and you all hate me. Gonna game throw so hard next game. (kidding. Good luck, town! Better get some scum soon!)

tl;dr - MK made elaborate/inconsistent lies as town, stuck to them till the end resulting in mislynch. Everyone is annoyed with him. He says he doesn't care because we always lynch him early and that is running him & you off from the game. SBG points out flaws with that arguement. Then you posted.

^ This. Lying is for scum.

Don't question Lach's innocence! There's absolutely no way he's scum! It's scummy to even think about it! Don't think about it! [/sarcasm] Good catch there, Jazzy! Very interested to hear Atliis explain this.

unvote Vote AbT As I said earlier, MK can wait. I'd like to get this situation resolved first.

"I highly doubt that he would go through the trouble of fabricating this story just to get Ali lynched. He would be trading his life (assuming Ali gets lynched first) for Ali's and I don't see scum thinking that that's a play worthwhile. " -Yehom Well, he wants MK lynched first. Plus Ali has a lover so really it'd be his life for Ali, MK, SBG. Just sayin', for the record and what-not. "(Is it even possible according to the rules to have two of the same PR??)" - Kitkat Yes it's possible. Unusual, but possible. If there were going to be multiple of the same role too, JOAT is one that is more likely. Since it's not super strong. So.. kinda hard to read real deep into it.

What? There was a lot said after your reveal, you know. You'll have to forgive me for considering those arguements, considering the possibility you're not town and talking about what might be the most logical next step. You getting upset over this is disappointing. I had hoped you'd show more willingness to die if town thought it best. That would've been more townie IMO. The reaction you did give.. a little scummy. Would be more scummy if you were straight up VT but since you're supposedly a JOAT it's somewhat understandable. Somewhat. Hmmm, being ok to be mislynched. Odd. Scum partner #2 possibly Not odd in my opinion. If I was a weak investigation role, made claims and people considered lynching me to have it proven, I wouldn't be too upset about it knowing that after my claims are proven true scum would be targetted next. If I was an actual cop I'd try to live more but the weaker the power role, the less the person should worry because trading your own life to take out a scum is still a big win for town. On the flip side, if you're scum in that scenerio, you being lynched first is the worst thing that can happen. So a scum is more likely to freak out. So logically, when no/weak roles freak out there should be at least a slight tendancy for them to be scum. Not saying Lach is for sure scum but to me, it's adds a tiny bit of suspicion. And although Lach has seemed town and I wouldn't be real surprised if his claim was true.. I don't completely close off my mind to suspicion against anyone until that are truly confirmed, which Lach is not. I always least my mind opened at least a crack until then and I'd think it odd if you didn't too. To make myself absolutely clear: I'm not saying Lach is for sure scum because of this. I'm just not sure he's town either and I'm going to question things I don't like until it is confirmed. I'm just explaining my logic behind my opinion that it would've been more town for Lach NOT to call me scummy for suggesting it may be better to lynch him first. One last thing - if I was AbT's scum partner, you really think I'd try to save him this way? What's my plan? I get Lach lynched, he flips town, then what? It's back to square one only now I'm a suspect too! w00! ????? Profit?

What? There was a lot said after your reveal, you know. You'll have to forgive me for considering those arguements, considering the possibility you're not town and talking about what might be the most logical next step. You getting upset over this is disappointing. I had hoped you'd show more willingness to die if town thought it best. That would've been more townie IMO. The reaction you did give.. a little scummy. Would be more scummy if you were straight up VT but since you're supposedly a JOAT it's somewhat understandable. Somewhat.

Hate to say it because I've leaned towards Lach being town all game and while I am less sure now I still lean slightly towards him telling the truth.. but wouldn't it be better to lynch him first since he definitely isn't connected to a lover? He he comes up scum, that makes AbT probably town and we can avoid lynching him and his lover. Hmm.. I guess AbT & Lover do have a very high chance of dying at some point anyway tho. AbT not posting doesn't help motivate me to vote him over Lach either.. man it's a tough call. I DEFINITELY do think that we should one of them tho, MK can wait.

@Atliis - who have you investigated? and what results did you get?

Yeah it's convenient too since AbT may have tried to push for a lynch on me. If Lach & I were scum buddies tho I would not have approved of such a plan because unless AbT was also scum we'd be proven wrong and lynched after. And if all 3 of us were scum, why let it get to this point? It'd be horrible scum play no matter how you slice it.

See AbT, this is what I was waiting for. How ironic that it's against you. xD I await your defense.