Sir Jesus

Do it. You have the power EM, you've got the bullet and the gun and the anger. Make it all happen, blast me away. But you won't because you are scum and you want to save your last shot. I never agreed with the plan, I found it illogical from the start. I also know there was an infinitely higher chance that I am townie then Aquinas. Also, my intuition was NOT that Aquinas was scum. I did not want to shoot him, but he forced me to. EM. I have a really strong feeling about EM. Of course that is a preliminary intuition but he seems by far the scummiest to me. I can't place my finger on it, but something definitely seems fishy on his end. Point A) and point are the same, you think I fired too quickly before making better judgement. I disagree, all that had to happen was 2 scum and a townie say "aye" and I'm done for. That could have been carried out while I was eating lunch... Right now, EM. So far everyone has seemed pretty pro-town to me, except him. He has taken control of the game (whether anyone realizes it or not) and people have completely disregarded the fact that he could be playing everyone as a fool as he manufactures townie death after townie death. Again I have no concrete evidence, call it a gut feeling. Thank you vgm.

I really enjoyed his post until the last paragraph. Also, there was no guarantee that he wasn't playing the WIFOM effect. Like I said before, I did not want to shoot him and it was not an irrational act. I had definitely thought it through completely before killing him, I can assure you of that. The odds were just not in his favor in that situation. Even if I was scum, I still would have shot him. Anyone should shoot anyone if they have an indication of it coming, since they are 100% sure that they are on their own side. Following through with this logic doesn't make me any more or less scummy. Sigh ... I know I am not looking very townie right now, but I assure you that killing me would be a mistake. I am now useless in this game except for my voice. I can harm nobody, but I really feel like I could be a help later in the game. If you have looked at my previous games (all of which I'm a townie ) you will notice my intuition has been spot on when fingering scum. Please allow my abilities to help us find the scum.

Shoot: Aquinas

Wrong choice Aquinas. I'm a man with nothing to lose but a lot to gain (my first mafia kill!). You have targeted me for your aggression without any logical reasons or accusations. While I am not 100% sure you are scum, I am 100% sure that I am not. You wish to speed up the killings, I will grant your wish. It is unfortunate that I must fire so early into the game, I really wanted to analyze this game. Oh well, Aquinas, you forced me to play my hand and openly admitted possible inactivity. I have no other choice but to prove to the town the fallacy of mixing democracy with Texan justice. *Sir Jesus walks up to Aquinas and shoots him in the chest I can only hope he was not one of us. Psst.

Ahhhhhhhh, that actually makes a ton of sense about KevinH. It just seemed like you were defending him out of the blue. Now I see the reason for the post. Thank you. However, this does not get rid of the WIFOM. KevinH could have suggested a game-breaking strategy as scum just as easily as if he were townie. Um, this does not make me suspicious. It means I was accusing you and KevinH of being in this together as scum. Kevin's strategy obviously was perfect and I would not have opposed it. Narsis' plan is flawed because the moment someone realizes they are about to be shot, they will fire whether they are guilty or not. I have done the same thing myself, as you can see by reading through my posts. However, I think she put herself back to "neutral" level and cannot be considered pro-town at this point. To do so would be to ignore a potential threat. Also, only 5 hours may have passed between posts but several people posited their opinions in the matter during that time. Oh boy, already with the return-defense. Excellent. What are the accusations levied against me? -Pointing out obvious flaws in a plan that anyone (especially scum) can manipulate. -Considering WIFOM on the part of all participants Hmm... I don't think I'm worthy of Texan justice. I've been racking my brain for a good plan for this game that has not been suggested, but I cannot think of anything that would be enforceable + fair. I think gut reactions will carry the day, one way or the other. My intuition tells me that you are not scum, but out of self-defense I could shoot you for your last sentence (I know I'm townie)... This is a very interesting setup, I'm interested to see what happens.

Uhhhh ...... what? Where did that come from, why did you post that? Seriously, how can you trust Kevin? Why do you particularly care about him staying alive? This post seems to stand out like block letters in the Constitution, it just seems illogical to post unless you have a vested interest in Kevin staying alive (as in, you're both scum). Also EM, you assume that anyone that does not support a specified plan is anti-town. I find this ridiculous since these suggested plans have awful fallacies that could, as vgm put it, allow scum to shepherd us toward our death. I definitely appreciate the putting forth of a target/discussion-piece (vgm) as it allows for conversation, but I do feel like you may have pressed hard for her death. Once you realized nobody was going to blast her, you post about how she is almost certainly pro-town. Something just seems fishy, EM...

Okay, thank you for the explanation. I'm not exactly new but I guess for experienced players two would just seem natural.

Ummm EM, nice catch. He did say both scum. This slip definitely needs to be noted more. SFOS: vgmmaster

I like Narsis' idea, but I see a flaw. If I'm about to get voted for, I know personally I will take someone out with me before the hammer vote.

ooh this is exciting, this is the first time I've ever had an action in a Mafia game other than lynching!

First! to sign up

Obviously, Falzis is scum. vote: Falzis

Im in!