"Come to the abandoned warehouse at [insert address] at midnight. Come alone. Tell no one. We are gonna have ourselves a fun game. N"

 

Still Alive

1. Curufinwe

2. ccabal86

3. ChaosHawk

4. Electric Mango

5. Kasabian

6. Nerau

7. Yahna

8. Preston

9. Kaziocore

10. Martino

11. CanucksDynasty

12. Deatvert

13. KevinH

14. 19thSpecOps

15. AKCPluto

 

Passed on

None.

 

General Rules

(Stolen from my last game)

 

1. This is game. Play to win; expect to lose. And have fun.

 

2. No editing or deleting posts.

 

3. No talking to other players outside the game thread unless your Role PM states specifically that you can.

 

4. No quoting any PMs from me, including Role PMs. Doing so will get you modkilled. Paraphrasing is OK. If you are worried about something not being ok, then either PM me or just dont say it.

 

5. Vote for a player to be lynched by using the Vote: Narsis format. You dont need to unvote before voting again, but it is appreciated(especially if you dont vote again right away).

 

6. Days will last 10 days. Nights will last up to 72 hours, but may be cut short if I get all actions in before then, with a minimum 24 hour night.

6-1. If discussion is lagging, I may impose a shorter deadline at my own discretion. Deadline extensions will happen on request - but will only happen once per day at most, and if I feel there's enough activity to warrant one.

 

7. A lynch requires a majority (50% rounded down + 1) vote. You can also No Lynch, by using Vote: No Lynch.

7-1. If there is no majority by deadline, only a half-majority is needed. (Majority / 2, rounded up if necessary)

7-2. If there are 2 players with the same amount of at least half-majority votes at deadline, then I will lynch the one who reached that number of votes first.

 

8. After someone has been lynched, discussion may continue until I can get to the thread and end the day. If you are dead you may continue to post until your death scene is posted. After that point I will only allow a Bah post, and only if you were night killed.

 

9. Don't use small / invisible font, don't use coloured text(except for mole who is allowed to use orange if he is acting as the super moderator of the forum), and don't use any form of clever encryption or code in your messages.

 

10. If you haven't posted in 2 days, I'll prod you. If you don't pick up that prod AND post within 48 hours, I'll replace you.

10-1. If you need to be replaced for whatever reason, please PM me, don't flake.

10-2. If you are V/LA, don't rely on me checking the thread / your signature. Please post in the thread notifying me of your V/LA or PM me about it.

10-3. If you replace out, you automatically lose. If you are someone replacing in, whether it counts as a win or loss depends on how long you have been replaced in for.

 

11. Vote counts will be made whenever I feel like it(or it is asked) and will be done in a separate post.

 

13. I hope it isn't necessary, but any modkills will negatively effect the rule-breaker's faction in some way which I see fit. If you are modkilled, you lose, no matter how the game ends.

 

14. I can change, add, or edit rules as I see fit. I will notify players in-thread if this happens.

 

15. I am not perfect. I may have got something wrong. I may have missed a rule out. Let me know, ask me questions, but don't abuse my mistakes.

15-1. To get my attention in-thread, use the MOD: <Your message> format. Or, y'know, you could PM me.

 

Special Rules

(stolen from one of the PYP games on mafiascum and edited for this game)

 

These rules are unique to this game. Probably worth a look at some point.

 

This is a semi-open setup: 4 mafia and 11 town. Each player will receive one of the following PMs:

 

Mafia wrote:

You are a part of the mafia along with X, Y, and Z. Each night the four of you can choose a player in the town to kill, though you are not forced too. Before the game begins, the four of you have 96 hours to talk and decide on which four poweroles the town will have, from the list of seven given in the rules post. Because of the importance of the decision, I'd like confirmation from at least three of you as to the choices being made. Oh, and remember, you can communicate in private with your partners at any point during the game.

 

You win when the town no longer has the majority of votes.

 

Townsperson wrote:

You are a townsperson. At present you have no abilities other than your voice and your vote, but it's possible you will receive a useful ability. You will be told at the start of day 0 what your ability is if any, otherwise you're just a vanilla townie.

 

You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

 

 

During the pregame stage, the mafia will have a maximum of 96 hours to choose four (different) protown poweroles from the following list:

 

Macho Cop wrote:

You are a macho cop. Every night you may investigate another player and receive a guilty or innocent result from me. You cannot be protected by a doctor if there are any doctors.

 

 

Doctor wrote:

You are a doctor. Every night you can give me the name of a player you want to protect; they will be immune to all kills that night. You may not protect yourself.

 

 

Weak doctor wrote:

You a weak doctor. Every night you can give me the name of a player you want to protect; you will block one kill against them that night. If you protect a member of the mafia, you will be killed that night. You may not protect yourself.

 

 

4-shot Vig wrote:

You are a vigilante. Each night you have the option of killing another player who you suspect is scum. You only have four shots and can only shoot once per night.

 

 

Bulletproof wrote:

You are bulletproof. You will block one night kill against you each night.

 

 

Vengeful wrote:

You are vengeful. If/when you are lynched, during the next night, and next night only, you can send me the name of one of the people that voted for you. A night kill will be attempted against them. This ability can't be roleblocked.

 

 

Detective wrote:

You are a detective. Each you can choose another player to track and watch that night. I will tell you who they targeted and who targeted them last night.

 

 

Once the mafia have chosen, the poweroles are immediately distributed randomly to four members of the town. The game then starts with day 0. During day 0, everyone gets to vote for three perks to give the mafia, from the following list:

 

4-shot roleblocker wrote:

You are a 4-shot roleblocker. Four times during the game, at night, you can block another player from taking any nightactions. If that player is a cop or detective they will be notified of the block, otherwise they won't be.

 

 

Day Rolecop wrote:

You are a day rolecop. Each day you may investigate another player and find out their full role.

 

 

1-shot janitor wrote:

You are a 1-shot janitor. Once during the game, before a lynch has taken place, you may PM me and ask for the lynched player's alignment to be covered up. You may not cover up your own alignment in this way.

 

 

Godfather wrote:

You are a godfather. Any cop investigations against you will show the opposite of their expected result, and any nightkills against you will fail. You also have the option of allowing a weak doctor to protect you and still survive; you can use this on any night by PMing me.

 

 

Ninja wrote:

You are a ninja. You will not show up to the detective as targeting anyone, or being targeted by anyone.

 

Bus driver wrote:

You are a bus driver. During the night you may "switch" two players. Any actions against the first player, will instead be used against the second and vice versa. You will be seen as targeting both players however.

 

 

Everyone has three votes on day 0, and these can be removed and changed as often as you like, just as with normal voting. Note that you can't place all your votes on the same perk, however. When a choice reaches 8 votes, it's locked in and can't be changed. When three perks/abilities have been chosen, the mafia have a brief period to decide amongst themselves which of them get which perk, and which one stays as a goon. After that, the game starts with day 1, and from them on progresses normally. Note that the mafia in this game can talk during day as well as night.

Edited January 2, 201115 yr by Narsis

@ CH: What are your thoughts on Kasabian?

@ Kasabian: What are your thoughts on CH?

Hi, sorry, dont have much time anymore, please do replace me.

Thanks and sorry.

 

Curu

I see Chaoshawk, Nerau, and AKCPLUTO in this thread at the time of this post.

 

Maybe nothing...maybe something.

@Martino

 

He clearly is most suspicious of KevinH this round. I don't have much of an opinion of him either way. I'd watch both of their actions closely later on.

I see Kasabian, Chaoshawk, Nerau, and AKCPLUTO in this thread at the time of this post.

 

Maybe nothing...maybe something.

 

Kasabian: He did support the roles I proposed, but only after it had picked up some steam. (AKC had already switched his votes at that point as well). Got into a little fight with AKC early on (putting a FOS on each other), though that could easily be distancing. Quickly joined Chaoshawk on voting KevinH for not voting no lynch. It would surprise me greatly if both of them turned out to be townies. There was a good excuse but no solid reason to vote KevinH. That is typically the kind of situation a mafia would try to take advantage of. After KevinH votes Kasabian he tries to defend himself. However, he is not very convincing and in fact the points he brings up are both false. (KevinH did not assume there was a cop and the majority of the players did agree there was no cop). Voting for AKC after the counterclaim should not clear him in any way.

 

 

First, when did i joined CH because voted kevinh choose to not vote for no lynch? Please show me the post when i say/do that.

 

When did i trie to defend myself after kevinh voted me? Please do show me that post too, i would like to see that.

 

I voted b/c CD, convince me about the counterclaiming, and i believed from the begining he is a townie.

 

@about CH, i can't say to much about him, what i thought that make me suspect about him was what you mentioned that he quickly supported kevinh decision about the roles, i don't believe to much that he "didn't" knew that the mafia selected the town role, why, b/c in the first post the MOD mentioned that after the mafia choose the roles for the townies, then we were going to choose the roles for them, so, that excuse is kinda odd.

I see Kasabian, Chaoshawk, Nerau, and AKCPLUTO in this thread at the time of this post.

 

Maybe nothing...maybe something.

It's activity! and a slice of paranoia.

It's activity! and a slice of paranoia.

 

Activity is nice

I'm completely paranoid when it comes to mafia :flail:

/me summons Narsis

 

lol I like to formulate a post before posting so its concidence i guess

 

@Martino I am trying to play a little stronger than i have been so if kills me let it be

 

 

Nerau: Also supported KevinH's role selection, as he believed them to be the weakest. KevinH obviously thought the same, so it does not necessarily mean he is scum, but it counts against him. Once Kasabian and CH were attacking KevinH, Nerau did say that he believed KevinH statement that there was most likely no cop to be valid. However, he was also quick to add that this did not clear KevinH. Nerau being scum would also support AKC's roleclaim. After all, if nothing had changed, and it certainly looked like nothing would change. AKC would be lynched and we would find out about Nerau's alignment. So that would be 2 scum down in 2 days. Certainly seems like the mafia had something to gain by making AKC roleclaim. As I explained above, the weak doc becomes useless as soon as his identity is known. On the other hand, even if Nerau is not scum, the weak doc would be a powerful tool for the town, so it may have been worth sacrificing AKC, who most likely was going to die anyway. If AKC comes up as the roleblocker, this theory can be discarded. Otherwise, Nerau could make a good D2 target. Remarkably enough, however, I was more suspicious of him before doing my reread. Most of his posts actually do seem to make sense. Perhaps it would be better to postpone his lynch for a bit. Also, he agreed to be the weak doc target without too much trouble. Kasabian and CH make better targets, but he should still be watched.

 

Yes i did say what i said but i will agree it was probably a miss read on my part and plus not taking into account other factors. Yes I also agree with the Weak doc b/c it can be used as a scum detector. This part i didn't see the first time i read the role, which is why my first reaction came up.

Things seem to have derailed a little - or at least devolved into more accusations.

 

Will it even register you visited that person if you are roleblocked?

I don't know as I've seldomly played games with a roleblocker.

I might get a message saying my attempts to protect player X was thwarted.

4-shot roleblocker wrote:

You are a 4-shot roleblocker. Four times during the game, at night, you can block another player from taking any nightactions. If that player is a cop or detective they will be notified of the block, otherwise they won't be.

Sounds like the answer to this one is no, which is VERY unfortunate. If WD were notified of block, then mafia would be forced to block for all of the first 4 nights so that we would be denied any information, and absence of roleblock could be treated as a 'true' townie verification while presence would be 'mafia screwing with results'. As it currently stands, unless mafia decides to go bulletproof hunting (since we're pretty sure there is one) there's not going to be an easy way to tick down their roleblocker shots; those 4 will be stretched pretty well.

 

As for the other stuff chaoshawk said... wow, lots of suspicion thrown around there. It's still worth investigating him tonight, but I dont entirely understand where your FoS came from CD; could you elaborate/explain please? Reading back, it sounded like he was just annoyed you had to roleclaim since now the roleblocker can target you as needed; see above.

 

For Day 2....Can everyone please make 2 votes (one for the lynch and one for me to protect)?

 

For example...

 

Vote: player A - this will be the person you want to lynch.

WD: player B - this will be the person you want me to protect.

 

 

We get 2 sets of info this way.

Which should help narrow down the field of suspects.

Just to be clear, Day 2 has not actually STARTED yet, right?

 

@Martino - Wow, a HUGE analysis wall-o-text! Why is it you think mafia is going to kill you tonight though?

 

-Preston

Heh... here's where I'd edit if I could, because rereading my own post I see genuine idiocy; I first ask CD to confirm that it's not the next day (The bold DAY 2 in your post DID make me go kinda wtf when I first read it), then I ask Martino about "tonight". That's what stream-of-consciousness will get you XD

 

So yeah... where IS narsis anyway? XD

 

-Preston

There are a lot of accusations being thrown around, some with reasonably well thought out backing, some without. The lynch is locked on AKC now (I believe) so why not wait until the end of night to gather some more info? (results from WD, any nightkills, etc)

First, when did i joined CH because voted kevinh choose to not vote for no lynch? Please show me the post when i say/do that.

CH voted KevinH in post #71, this is followed by your post #73:

You seems pretty sure there is no cop , don't you?

 

Also ,you were the only one that voted for the roles that were more favorable to the scums, right? So that's what makes me think that you KevinH are a scum, for that reason

 

Vote: KevinH

 

 

When did i trie to defend myself after kevinh voted me? Please do show me that post too, i would like to see that.

 

KevinH voted you because he felt you were stretching when coming up with a reason for your vote. Then you defend yourself in Post #84:(I suggest going to the actual post so you can also see what you are quoting)

Im not stretching anything out, im just saying what im seeing

 

First:

 

Here in this post you "assume" there may be a cop...

 

 

 

After CD voted for the reason that you Guaranteed there were a macho cop, you change your game to the assumptions that there were no cop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also i went true the posts and i don't see where you concluded with all "as a group" that there wasn't a cop,the only one that confirms that is Martino.

 

@Preston: I'll discuss that with you after the game is over.

I would just like to comment that I disagree that just voting for AKCPLUTO makes them suspicious

as almost everyone want to lynch an obvious lying scum

though I find it very suspicious the timing of the later voters.

The storm in the southeast U.S. is cramping my style. Maybe it is cramping Narsis, too.

I've been stuck since Monday because of the storm.

CH voted KevinH in post #71, this is followed by your post #73:

 

 

 

 

 

KevinH voted you because he felt you were stretching when coming up with a reason for your vote. Then you defend yourself in Post #84:(I suggest going to the actual post so you can also see what you are quoting)

 

 

 

First , you told that i voted kevinh, because CH vote him b/c kevinh choose not to lynch this time, when did i vote for that same reason? Please that's the post i want to see.

 

Excuse me but i don't see me defending myself in that post, i just see me still proving some point of why kevinh guaranteed or not there was or not a macho cop.

 

So Martino, what is really your angle against me? Im starting to see that maybe you might be a scum, you'r maybe a scum with an important role... im just thinking that's all

 

FoS: Martino

Heh... here's where I'd edit if I could, because rereading my own post I see genuine idiocy; I first ask CD to confirm that it's not the next day (The bold DAY 2 in your post DID make me go kinda wtf when I first read it), then I ask Martino about "tonight". That's what stream-of-consciousness will get you XD

 

So yeah... where IS narsis anyway? XD

 

-Preston

 

 

It's not the next day.

I'm saying that for D2...that everyone make 2 votes (one for the lynch and one for me to protect).

 

As for CH...like I said...some of his posts just gives me a bad vibe.

 

As for Martino...he's a veteran that a few of us in the game consider him to be townie.

If I was mafia...I'd nightkill known townies and vets (most of the time).

It's not the next day.

I'm saying that for D2...that everyone make 2 votes (one for the lynch and one for me to protect).

 

As for CH...like I said...some of his posts just gives me a bad vibe.

 

As for Martino...he's a veteran that a few of us in the game consider him to be townie.

If I was mafia...I'd nightkill known townies and vets (most of the time).

 

Bad vibe I can understand... and I can also understand veterancy making Martino a target :-/ Doubly so since the real doc has to protect you now CD.

I guess tomorrow I'll get to see how we learn from whomever mafia decides to kill... well, whenever Narsis gets back anyway!

 

-Preston

If I was mafia...I'd nightkill known townies and vets (most of the time).

 

If I get nk'd, then it must be CD!

If I get nk'd, then it must be CD!

 

No U.

First , you told that i voted kevinh, because CH vote him b/c kevinh choose not to lynch this time, when did i vote for that same reason? Please that's the post i want to see.

Not that it changes much, but I'll rephrase that part. Right after CH voted KevinH for not going with his usual no lynch strategy, you conveniently voted KevinH for something that happened days ago.

 

Excuse me but i don't see me defending myself in that post, i just see me still proving some point of why kevinh guaranteed or not there was or not a macho cop.

You vote KevinH for X, KevinH reputes X and votes you for making up a reason, you try to prove X was a valid reason. (but fail, as KevinH points out in his next post). I'd say that counts as defending yourself. Note though, that it was not the fact you were defending yourself that got my attention. It was the fact that you were claiming things that were false.

 

So Martino, what is really your angle against me? Im starting to see that maybe you might be a scum, you'r maybe a scum with an important role... im just thinking that's all

 

FoS: Martino

My angle against you is that you have done a few things that I find scummy. What I am curious about though is what makes you think I am scum? And if I am scum, what gave you the idea I have an important role? And you'll have to come up with something better than "I'm just thinking that's all".

Reading the posts, I think I'm again seeing the usual defensive Kasabian.

I don't know but based on this I have a feeling that Kasabian isn't scum.

Reading the posts, I think I'm again seeing the usual defensive Kasabian.

I don't know but based on this I have a feeling that Kasabian isn't scum.

 

But he was also defensive when he was scum too.

 

 

I'll flip a coin and decide to protect either Chaoshawk or Kasabian.

Not that it changes much, but I'll rephrase that part. Right after CH voted KevinH for not going with his usual no lynch strategy, you conveniently voted KevinH for something that happened days ago.

 

 

You vote KevinH for X, KevinH reputes X and votes you for making up a reason, you try to prove X was a valid reason. (but fail, as KevinH points out in his next post). I'd say that counts as defending yourself. Note though, that it was not the fact you were defending yourself that got my attention. It was the fact that you were claiming things that were false.

 

 

My angle against you is that you have done a few things that I find scummy. What I am curious about though is what makes you think I am scum? And if I am scum, what gave you the idea I have an important role? And you'll have to come up with something better than "I'm just thinking that's all".

 

 

I voted for him b/c i thought kevinh was hidden something that's all,

 

I was just trying to break him to see if i could get some information from him that's all.

 

You find scummy everyone but you imo, why , first, you'r trying to accuse alot of ppl , first akc,then me, ch, nerau and ccabal, maybe you want to have ppl to lynch for the coming days so the ppl won't come after ya.

 

Plus another thing that i found suspicious , is the whole history you came up about a few ppl including me, that make me think that, maybe im wrong.

 

 

@Kaziocore, im a townie,a vanilla townie.