I will vote when Preston does.

So both of you want to place the hammer vote? That's a first.

Preston, I will keep that in mind as I become a better player; that is, to try to provide reasoning as often as possible when making accusations or what have you.

 

In any case, I want to role-claim as a Cowardly Lifeguard. I am a townie except I do not have the ability to hammer vote.

I'll like you if you like me first?

Preston, I will keep that in mind as I become a better player; that is, to try to provide reasoning as often as possible when making accusations or what have you.

 

In any case, I want to role-claim as a Cowardly Lifeguard. I am a townie except I do not have the ability to hammer vote.

 

"Cowardly Lifeguard"? In a supermarket?

I will vote when Preston does.

So both of you want to place the hammer vote? That's a first.

Moderately amusing; my whole point is that I figured we could wait til the day ended naturally, but if RoT decided he wanted it over NOW I'd go with it. Didnt expect the loopback, but I guess it makes sense

 

I'll wait until tomorrow; CaoCao /might/ come back in the next 12 or so hours before mole calls the day over, I guess. Ironically, mole might not even check the topic before then anyway, so voting now wouldnt exactly buy us much time! XD

 

Preston, I will keep that in mind as I become a better player; that is, to try to provide reasoning as often as possible when making accusations or what have you.

 

In any case, I want to role-claim as a Cowardly Lifeguard. I am a townie except I do not have the ability to hammer vote.

Speaking of things that happen in the last 12 hours of the day... interesting. I'd expected this role to crop up after we saw the first two, though perhaps not as still having 'lifeguard' in the name. I know from experience it's not a role we can TEST, which is frustrating - but you have a decent chance of actually being this role unless someone counterclaims; it would be moderately risky for scum to claim a role that already has a GOOD chance of existing... unless they just made a mistake, which is also possible.

 

-Preston

"Cowardly Lifeguard"? In a supermarket?

 

No kidding. Talk about a fish out of water. Wouldn't it be "Cowardly Customer"? Something doesn't sound right. And I don't know why AKC felt he had to roleclaim.

AKC, could you paraphrase the part of your role pm that explains how a "Cowardly Lifeguard" got into the supermarket?

Lifeguards need groceries, too!

 

:fry:

Was not TC the same role or is my memory failing me?

Was not TC the same role or is my memory failing me?

Looking back, I dont see that TC ever stated the NAME of his role; he just USED it, and we drew the conclusion that it was identical to the revival doc from the last game. This is a good question to ask however.

 

TC:

Can you please tell us the NAME of your role? Do NOT quote the entire role PM (though you could paraphrase it), but knowing the name of your role would be very helpful here in examining AKCPLUTO

 

-Preston

I got sick of bobbing corpses and had to find a new employer, hence my role as a cowardly lifeguard.

 

LOL @ being a fish out of water.

 

I felt like I had to roleclaim because I wanted to set everyone's minds at ease. It's called paranoia.

Looking back, I dont see that TC ever stated the NAME of his role; he just USED it, and we drew the conclusion that it was identical to the revival doc from the last game. This is a good question to ask however.

 

TC:

Can you please tell us the NAME of your role? Do NOT quote the entire role PM (though you could paraphrase it), but knowing the name of your role would be very helpful here in examining AKCPLUTO

 

-Preston

 

I am an ex-lifeguard.

 

I also wonder where this roleclaim suddenly comes from... the way I see it CaoCao is pretty much dead meat (provided all those virtual votes become real), but by claiming my role... AKC is suddenly extremely suspicious on my list...

 

Also a question: how is paraphrasing a pm we can't check proof for anything?

Wow, a surprise roleclaim! Even though that is kind of suspicious, I think CaoCao has sealed his fate by not posting at all for more than 20 days. We should deal with this roleclaim on day 3. I hope CaoCao is scum or my next vote is for you EM.

Vote-CaoCao

TerrorChrist is misquoting the role, because there is no such thing as an ex-lifeguard; just a cowardly lifeguard. And I am the true cowardly lifeguard.

 

VOTE COUNT

CaoCao (5): Electric Mango, CanucksDynasty, KevinH, TerrorChrist, reign of terror

CanucksDynasty (2): ccabal86, AKCPLUTO

 

Not Voting (3): Nerau, CaoCao, Preston

 

With 10 Alive, 6 is needed to lynch.

3 is needed to lynch at deadline.

Edited May 5, 201115 yr by molestargazer

I am an ex-lifeguard.

 

I also wonder where this roleclaim suddenly comes from... the way I see it CaoCao is pretty much dead meat (provided all those virtual votes become real), but by claiming my role... AKC is suddenly extremely suspicious on my list...

 

Also a question: how is paraphrasing a pm we can't check proof for anything?

TerrorChrist is misquoting the role, because there is no such thing as an ex-lifeguard; just a cowardly lifeguard. And I am the true cowardly lifeguard.

Knowing an actual role name for a verified townie role allows us to check for an internal consistency in how mole named roles - i.e. does your 'lifeguard' sound like the one AKCPLUTO claimed. You say you are an ex-lifeguard, and he says he is 'cowardly lifeguard' as listed in the previous game - as opposed to an 'ex' lifeguard. It's more information for us to consider.

 

As for paraphrasing, one of the rules is that you cannot verbatim-quote your role PM or any other PM you have gotten from mole - though listing the NAME of your role verbatim is safe. The penalty for verbatim quoting mole is being modkilled, so whenever someone is told to paraphrase their role PM as extra justification/detail, this is why.

 

As for what we gain from paraphrased role PMs, it's both additional role detail and more internal consistency - we get to see if the role 'sounds' real, beyond simply having the name. It's not beyond a creative scum to come up with a fake role, but forcing them to say more gives them more space to possibly overreach/conflict with an existing role.

 

Also, RoT has decided to cast his vote after this surprising roleclaim. We dont have much time left in the day, but TC has responded with his role name and AKC has responded to THAT, so I dont think there's anything else to wait for - cao cao is not likely to appear in the mere hours left at this point. I will honor my previous post and provide the hammer now that RoT has voted.

 

Vote: CaoCao

 

Here's hoping his inactive self is scum - he WAS suspicious on day 1, so I'd give us a little better than the raw 1/3 odds on him. And if not... we have CD/ccabal and possibly EM/AKCPLUTO to consider on day 3.

 

-Preston

TerrorChrist is misquoting the role, because there is no such thing as an ex-lifeguard; just a cowardly lifeguard. And I am the true cowardly lifeguard.

TC was able to revive Nerau for the day. So I think I will take his word over yours.

Fingers crossed...

@Preston - the only one that gets a free pass from me is TC.

 

In any case, it's a majority lynch on CaoCao (EM, CD, Kev, TC, RoT, Preston). I hope we got mafia.

TerrorChrist is misquoting the role, because there is no such thing as an ex-lifeguard; just a cowardly lifeguard. And I am the true cowardly lifeguard.

 

 

Okay, this is just ridiculous.

Unvote CaoCao

Vote AKCPLUTO

Right.. guess we already had the lynch. But for me AKCPLUTO is clearly scum, trying to roleclaim a role which is known to be someone elses already.

Interesting how CD is giving TC a free pass even though TC is coming after an obvious townie. My vote on CD stands.

It seems we will have much to discuss on Day 3...

Interesting how CD is giving TC a free pass even though TC is coming after an obvious townie. My vote on CD stands.

What part of "He revived Nerau for the day" did you not understand?