Godfather Tony opened his eyes and took a deep breath, only to find it hindered by a lack of air and sucking a plastic bag into his mouth. Flailing, his arms reached just above his face and found a zip. A little working pulled it down, and this time, he was able to breathe in peace.

 

He sat up to find that he had been put into a body bag after his exploits at the supermarket.

How odd. He was most definitely alive.

 

After being awoken from what had almost been certain death, his first thought went not to food, or air, or perhaps somewhere to run away from the police and lie down for a while with a Whisky, but to his next plan.

 

He got up and ran away from the pool, and down the high street. He saw one building and his eyes narrowed.

"Yes...."

 

***

 

The IRONTown Supermarket had had another busy day, but now things were at last calming down. Employees were grumpily cleaning the shop and picking up fallen goods, whilst checking their watches to see when they could run to clock off for the day. A few customers remained, hurriedly trying to pick up all the shopping they could before the market closed.

 

It was to this end that Tony and some associates walked nonchalantly into the supermarket, before triggering the alarms which brought down the emergency shutters in the supermarket that had been installed for no purpose other than that they were quite cheap.

But they would serve their purpose. The good people of IRONTown would once again have to try and outwit the mafia who wanted to kill them....

 

TMCWPTI #2

The Mafia Choose Weird Places To Invade - #2

 

Still Alive: (Italics = Confirmed)

Narsis AKCPLUTO

Preston

ccabal86

Herodez reign of terror

TerrorChrist

 

Definitely Not Still Alive:

d3mon, aka One-Use Security Guard, Lynched Day One.

Nerau, Warehouse Worker aka One-Use Roleblocker, killed Night One.

CaoCao, Shoplifter, Lynched Day Two.

KevinH, Dedicated Employee aka One-Use Martyr, killed Night Two.

Electric Mango, Corrupt Manager aka Mafia One-Use Role Cop, lynched Day Three.

CanucksDynasty, Customer, killed Night Three.

Edited May 28, 201115 yr by molestargazer

I still think that AKC and CD might be both townies. That leaves Preston, EM, and ccabal86 to be the mafia. Just an idea I am throwing out there!

I still think that AKC and CD might be both townies. That leaves Preston, EM, and ccabal86 to be the mafia. Just an idea I am throwing out there!

Impossible that AKC and myself can both be townies. Just 3 mafia votes and the game would be over. It's been a couple of days already and neither of us has been lynched. So what the means is that ACK is mafia or I am mafia. It's ACK that is mafia.

 

And it's been almost a full day with a vote on EM by TC (a known townie). If it's not game over soon...then I have to believe that EM is mafia.

I still think that AKC and CD might be both townies. That leaves Preston, EM, and ccabal86 to be the mafia. Just an idea I am throwing out there!

 

I'm 100% sure that is not the case, because I'm a townie

 

Anyway it all seems to boil down to CD or AKC, with possibly EM as a possible second mafia member? Since we haven't learned that much in the past few days I think what everyone should do now is put a FoS on the person you'd vote for if you had to vote RIGHT NOW. Maybe that will spark some discussion.

 

FoS: CanucksDynasty

Addendum: Oh yeah, please state your reasons for the FoS if you haven't already. If you already voted, then no need to FoS obviously.

FOS-Preston

 

If CD and ccabal aren't lying, and AKC is lying that would leave AKC, Preston, and EM to be scum. Also Preston has not been challenged at all this entire game. Preston also voted for d3mon and then backed off quickly after d3mon roleclaimed as the security guard. Seems like something a scum would do because he doesn't want to have a deciding vote on one of the town's leading roles.

FOS-Preston

 

If CD and ccabal aren't lying, and AKC is lying that would leave AKC, Preston, and EM to be scum. Also Preston has not been challenged at all this entire game. Preston also voted for d3mon and then backed off quickly after d3mon roleclaimed as the security guard. Seems like something a scum would do because he doesn't want to have a deciding vote on one of the town's leading roles.

That is a possible combo.

 

It's clear that mafia combos are not...

CD+ACK

CD+cc

TC+EM

 

Known fact that TC is townie. If he guessed correctly on EM then we should not see a lynch (provided the remaining 2 townies do not vote). It's risky to wait but it's been a day and no lynch so far. If EM is not lynched...it confirms that he is mafia (cuz TC is townie and we assume 3 mafia in this game).

Isn't it about time everyone to roleclaim? We're facing a LYLO.

 

So far...

ACK - Cowardly Lifeguard

CD - vanilla townie

Rot - vanilla townie

TC - ex lifeguard

Does anyone want a list of the votes and unvotes so far in this game? I was making one for myself, but if anyone else wants it I will post it here.

@rot - sure...more info can't hurt.

 

@Pres - what are your thoughts on TC vote on EM?

Day 1

 

April 1st

Narsis votes KevinH

CD votes KevinH

Herodez votes KevinH

ccabal86 votes d3mon

d3mon votes Herodez

TC votes EM

CaoCao votes KevinH

Nerau votes ccabal86

 

April 2nd

EM votes ccabal86

CaoCao unvotes

 

April 4th

KevinH votes No-Lynch

 

April 6th

CaoCao votes TC

 

April 7th

KevinH unvotes then votes Herodez

 

April 8th

KevinH unvotes

d3mon unvotes then votes TC

CD unvotes then votes d3mon

KevinH votes No-Lynch

 

April 10th

Preston votes d3mon

 

April 11th

TC unvotes then votes d3mon

Preston unvotes

 

April 13th

CaoCao unvotes then votes d3mon

KevinH unvotes then votes CD

Preston votes d3mon

 

April 14th

Preston unvotes

Mole is Molestargazer, the IRON legend who is running this game.

 

That was actually the only bit that I DID understand

Day 2

 

April 25th

EM votes CaoCao

 

April 26th

CD votes CaoCao

ccabal86 votes CD

Preston votes CaoCao

 

April 29th

KevinH votes CaoCao

RoT votes AKC

RoT unvotes then votes CaoCao

Preston unvotes

RoT unvotes

 

May 1st

AKC votes CD

 

May 2nd

TC votes CaoCao

 

May 4th

RoT votes CaoCao

Preston votes CaoCao

 

Day 3

May 8th

AKC votes CD

CD votes AKC

 

May 9th

CD unvotes

 

May 10th

TC votes EM

 

May 11th

CD votes AKC

Online right now...

Ccabal+rot+CD+TC

Means this is not a mafia combo.

Isn't it about time everyone to roleclaim? We're facing a LYLO.

 

So far...

ACK - Cowardly Lifeguard

CD - vanilla townie

Rot - vanilla townie

TC - ex lifeguard

 

All right, I guess that makes sense, it is LYLO after all. But even if we miss here we may have a (however slim) chance of living another day...

 

I'm a Restroom Attendant. I can "lock" people in the restroom for a night, preventing any action by that player to be carried out. The player I lock in, can't be nightkilled either. It's also unused - I was saving it for a LYLO situation as a last straw.

All right, I guess that makes sense, it is LYLO after all. But even if we miss here we may have a (however slim) chance of living another day...

 

I'm a Restroom Attendant. I can "lock" people in the restroom for a night, preventing any action by that player to be carried out. The player I lock in, can't be nightkilled either. It's also unused - I was saving it for a LYLO situation as a last straw.

Another fish out of the water.

 

Restroom attendent in a supermarket? Must be a high-class supermarket.

 

VOTE COUNT

CanucksDynasty (1): AKCPLUTO

AKCPLUTO (1): CanucksDynasty

Electric Mango (1): TerrorChrist

 

Not Voting (4): Preston, ccabal86, Electric Mango, reign of terror

 

With 7 Alive, 4 is needed to lynch.

Edited May 25, 201115 yr by molestargazer

Actually it's not. The role PM says it's a small unisex bathroom with a strong door...

AKC, EM, and Preston all have not voted for each other. They seem to be the most likely scum group as long as no one except AKC is lying.

AKC, EM, and Preston all have not voted for each other. They seem to be the most likely scum group as long as no one except AKC is lying.

 

I think you will find that mafia will lie when it suits them.

They will most certainly lie in order to lynch a townie.

 

And voting records can be used to determine a pattern.

However, sometimes mafia will vote for one another as a distancing vote (to make it seem that they are not together).

Very rarely will you see mafia put the hammer vote on one of their own.

I believe RoT claim of being a vanilla townie cuz I don't believe I am the only vanilla townie in the game.

So the choices left are ACK, EM, Preston, and ccabal86.

 

I'm in the firm belief that ACK+EM are mafia now.

The only question to me is who is the 3rd (Preston or ccabal86).

 

I'll wait for the roleclaims before guessing who the 3rd member is.

 

 

 

Note:

CD+AKC+Preston online at this moment.

If EM is townie and TC being a known townie...then this is not a possible mafia combo.

CanucksDynasty,ccabal86,AKCPLUTO,Preston online at this moment.

CanucksDynasty,Preston,reign of terror,AKCPLUTO online at this moment

I'm 100% sure that is not the case, because I'm a townie

 

Anyway it all seems to boil down to CD or AKC, with possibly EM as a possible second mafia member? Since we haven't learned that much in the past few days I think what everyone should do now is put a FoS on the person you'd vote for if you had to vote RIGHT NOW. Maybe that will spark some discussion.

If I had to vote RIGHT NOW I'd vote for AKC, with CD as a backup. AKC increasingly looks like he got caught in a bad roleclaim when TC revealed the name difference, plus the start-of-day vote and accusing TC yesterday don't help him any. CD has his voting record against him, having lynched both d3mon and cao cao. I'm leaning towards AKC at present, but I think it's dangerous for us to completely disregard the day 1 votes: that's one of the few solid pieces of information we have, and at this point we're down to two names.

 

I am also not ruling out the possibility that BOTH CD and AKC are scum, and that they are setting up for a sacrifice today that will 'prove' one of them town for tomorrow. Remember that even if we succeed today, it will STILL be LYLO tomorrow unless scum's nightkill is blocked.

 

FOS-Preston

 

If CD and ccabal aren't lying, and AKC is lying that would leave AKC, Preston, and EM to be scum. Also Preston has not been challenged at all this entire game. Preston also voted for d3mon and then backed off quickly after d3mon roleclaimed as the security guard. Seems like something a scum would do because he doesn't want to have a deciding vote on one of the town's leading roles.

We're down to few enough players that "take X away, remaining 3 must be scum" arguments are possible. However we don't have anything on which to base the assumption that both CD and ccabal aren't lying - those are the remaining two from the list that voted for d3mon on day 1, and the prevailing wisdom yesterday was that d3mon's vote must have included at least ONE scum, if not more.

 

You are also forgetting that on day 1 just prior to the end of the day, KevinH was strongly asking people to unvote so we could figure out a way to test d3mon. I did that, and was talking about asking mole for an extension of the day to give us some time to do just that when the day ended. I could have easily stuck with the bandwagon (and frankly my analysis at the time was saying that I SHOULD have), but the danger of losing our security guard made me second guess myself.

 

@Pres - what are your thoughts on TC vote on EM?

TC first stated his suspicion of EM on day 1, and I was never clear on what he based that suspicion on - he mentioned EM's accusations, but aside from the usual day 1 scrambling (particularly with Kevin's april fools joke) I didn't see EM stand out of the crowd by the time TC first mentioned being suspicious of him. TC's vote today appears to be just a continuation of that first suspicion as opposed to something based on more current events - kinda like what CD does when he sticks on someone after first finding them suspicious.

 

I don't begrudge him his suspicion (and he may even be correct) but I think it's more of a long shot with less evidence behind it than the other candidates we're currently looking at. I'd rather a solid target instead of a guess from behavioral information like we did on day 1.

 

All right, I guess that makes sense, it is LYLO after all. But even if we miss here we may have a (however slim) chance of living another day...

 

I'm a Restroom Attendant. I can "lock" people in the restroom for a night, preventing any action by that player to be carried out. The player I lock in, can't be nightkilled either. It's also unused - I was saving it for a LYLO situation as a last straw.

Well this is interesting - and a little surprising that it's still unused, if real. I don't know how many roles there are left in this game... but I wonder if there is a way we can test this. Unlike AKC's role, this one has an active instead of passive ability.

 

First analysis:

This is basically a bodyguard role that roleblocks the one they protect, while the martyr (I think?) is a bodyguard role that dies if their target is attacked. They dont overlap, but they're close.

We've also already seen a simple 'roleblocker' - but that's more intended to be used against potential scum, where this role appears to be intended to protect but limit a townie; imagine if it were used on the security guard on night 1!

 

I don't want to immediately call this role fake, but it fits neatly between two roles we've already seen. I could see mole having a role like this in there as an attempt at limiting the town - two docs, but one blocks abilities and the other sacrifices the doc on successful use.

 

This role would be far more probable in a game where there are no vanilla townies - and so far we have yet to see any. Given that we have SIX town abilities in the game thus far, (four dead, TC and myself - I am not vanilla townie), I am not sure I'd believe that BOTH are vanilla.

 

-Preston

@Pres - so what is your role?

Okay, trying this again; lost my earlier post due to forums briefly going down :-p

 

I'd frankly wanted to avoid roleclaiming, but it IS LYLO and I'll be suspected/lynched if I delay and that'll be game over... so here it is.

 

My role is OCD Restocker.

Paraphrase: You have been the last one out of the store too many times, but you have learned where everything goes and don't get yelled at too much anymore. As the day ends you will check the shelves and notice if anything is out of place. You can't tell anyone what you find until the next day starts.

 

(Some of these words are difficult to paraphrase :-p)

 

Short version: This looks to me like curious child redux. I guess mole wanted to give it a try again, but this time be more specific to avoid errors. It says I learn information at the END of the day, which I'm guessing means that if something happened last night I won't hear about it until tonight, and be able to share it tomorrow. It doesnt specify WHAT I learn, but based off last game I'm guessing it's keyed to some specific mafia ability - could be janitor, but somehow I'm thinking mole is being more creative here.

 

I'm aware this ability can't be proven, but that's about all there is to it; I had an unprovable role last game after all.

 

You can also see why I wanted to avoid roleclaiming, and why I didn't believe d3mon really on day 1 - my role made no mention of movement, which I'd thought would HAVE to be present if a movement-based security guard were real. And finally you can also see why I'm skeptical about there being TWO vanilla townies; the role count is just too high otherwise.

 

I realize that by claiming this I have likely painted a giant bulls-eye on myself... but NOT claiming would have made me a lynch target, and we can't mess up today.

 

-Preston

I am surprised I am the only one voting EM right now. He´s been my suspect by some before. And the last vote, I was not the only one who gave him the benefit of the doubt. So it is not the continuation of an existing suspicion, but an enhanced suspicion on other acts by this person. Others too said something along the lines of `if this vote is wrong, EM must be maffia`.

 

I also wonder why reign of terror is so firm in his believe AKC is not lying. I am not too sure about this, because his roleclaim is just too close to mine. The way that went down, I have the feeling that the replacement entered the game, threw in a roleclaim, but didn't read the entire history before that. All the moves after that seem -to me- like some "trying to wriggle out of it" actions. AKC has a very strong FoS from me too.