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[KevinH]

By the way, I would rather not have the deadline extended. Those that are not as active had their chances to post and I want the game to progress with those of us that are active.

Those that have posted since last Friday:

• AKCPLUTO
• CanucksDynasty
• ccabal86
• Electric Mango
• KevinH
• Preston
• reign of terror
• TerrorChrist

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Those that have not:

• CaoCao
• Nerau

VOTE COUNT
CaoCao (4): Electric Mango, CanucksDynasty, KevinH, TerrorChrist
CanucksDynasty (2): ccabal86, AKCPLUTO

Not Voting (4): Nerau, CaoCao, Preston, reign of terror

With 10 Alive, 6 is needed to lynch.
3 is needed to lynch at deadline.

Edited by molestargazer, 05 May 2011 - 08:16 PM.

[Electric Mango]

I agree. I'm ready to see what happens next, things seem to be winding down with day 2

[reign of terror]

I am ready to lynch CaoCao if no one else wants to bring up any new ideas about anything.

[ccabal86]

I have stated everything I wanted, nothing more to add with things being so quiet recently.

[Preston]

Preston,

In the last 6 months, there was a game where I attempted to go for a "preemptive strike" in that I began accusing and voting against people on the first day. I ended up getting lynched real fast for talking too much. As such, I am trying to adjust and more under control with regard to what I say, when I say it, and how I say it. It has to do with being more conservative with how I play the game. CD is exactly right in understanding that I am reluctant to speak insofar as I am afraid of running into suspicion.
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My rationale for voting against CD is because of his involvement in voting against demon on day 1. I also noted how Caocao had the hammer vote, which may be part of the case against him here on day 2. I want to admit that I am somewhat hasty in my conclusion, but I am confident enough in it to move forward.

It's appropriate to remain vague and not draw attention. I think attention is increased if someone refuses to comment.

Kevin's response here is pretty much it.

Choosing to be less aggressive is entirely valid and noone would fault you for it. However whenever you DO take an action - voting, FoSing, etc - you need to provide your reasoning. Omitting this information is a choice that draws a lot of attention, and makes you MORE suspicious than nearly any justification would. Simply explaining your thought process is NOT an attack; it gives something for people to examine, agree/disagree with and ultimately use to judge you town/scum later in the game. Every time you post you are giving people material with which to see if you seem town/scum; and the act of NOT posting, or posting very little, also can be a sign of sorts.

If you dont want to lead/start lynch efforts against people you find suspicious that's fine - but dont restrict your posts and become largely inactive due to fear that you MIGHT be suspected, either. The whole game is about paranoia - have fun with it

By the way, I would rather not have the deadline extended. Those that are not as active had their chances to post and I want the game to progress with those of us that are active.

Those that have posted since last Friday:

• AKCPLUTO
• CanucksDynasty
• ccabal86
• Electric Mango
• KevinH
• Preston
• reign of terror
• TerrorChrist

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Those that have not:

• CaoCao
• Nerau

CaoCao has been the topic of discussion, and Nerau... well, I guess TC's revive didnt provide much more discussion than proving TC town and confirming Nerau didnt use his ability night 1.

AKCPLUTO explaining himself has helped tie up that loose end - it doesnt entirely clear him in my mind, but I dont feel like FoSing him yet either.

Barring CaoCao miraculously returning from inactivity to speak in his own defense (and since noone has answered my "does he get modkilled if he goes inactive with no replacements available" question), I think I'm ready for the day to end too. While I'm still wavering between CaoCao and CD, based on the former's inactivity (and the utility of the latter's analysis if he's town), I'm going to keep my 'virtual' vote on CaoCao.

Since the day ends tomorrow anyway unless people vote, I'm tempted to say just let the day time out instead of throwing down the votes again - I dont think cao cao will post, but 24 hours might make a difference - who knows? If people are desperate for this to end a night sooner, I'll vote when RoT does.

-Preston

[reign of terror]

I will vote when Preston does.

[CanucksDynasty]

So both of you want to place the hammer vote? That's a first.

[AKCPLUTO]

Preston, I will keep that in mind as I become a better player; that is, to try to provide reasoning as often as possible when making accusations or what have you.

In any case, I want to role-claim as a Cowardly Lifeguard. I am a townie except I do not have the ability to hammer vote.

[Electric Mango]

I'll like you if you like me first?

[ccabal86]

Preston, I will keep that in mind as I become a better player; that is, to try to provide reasoning as often as possible when making accusations or what have you.

In any case, I want to role-claim as a Cowardly Lifeguard. I am a townie except I do not have the ability to hammer vote.

"Cowardly Lifeguard"? In a supermarket?

[Preston]

I will vote when Preston does.

So both of you want to place the hammer vote? That's a first.

Moderately amusing; my whole point is that I figured we could wait til the day ended naturally, but if RoT decided he wanted it over NOW I'd go with it. Didnt expect the loopback, but I guess it makes sense

I'll wait until tomorrow; CaoCao /might/ come back in the next 12 or so hours before mole calls the day over, I guess. Ironically, mole might not even check the topic before then anyway, so voting now wouldnt exactly buy us much time! XD

Preston, I will keep that in mind as I become a better player; that is, to try to provide reasoning as often as possible when making accusations or what have you.

In any case, I want to role-claim as a Cowardly Lifeguard. I am a townie except I do not have the ability to hammer vote.

Speaking of things that happen in the last 12 hours of the day... interesting. I'd expected this role to crop up after we saw the first two, though perhaps not as still having 'lifeguard' in the name. I know from experience it's not a role we can TEST, which is frustrating - but you have a decent chance of actually being this role unless someone counterclaims; it would be moderately risky for scum to claim a role that already has a GOOD chance of existing... unless they just made a mistake, which is also possible.

-Preston

[CanucksDynasty]

"Cowardly Lifeguard"? In a supermarket?

No kidding. Talk about a fish out of water. Wouldn't it be "Cowardly Customer"? Something doesn't sound right. And I don't know why AKC felt he had to roleclaim.

[ccabal86]

AKC, could you paraphrase the part of your role pm that explains how a "Cowardly Lifeguard" got into the supermarket?

[KevinH]

Lifeguards need groceries, too!

[Electric Mango]

Was not TC the same role or is my memory failing me?

[Preston]

Was not TC the same role or is my memory failing me?

Looking back, I dont see that TC ever stated the NAME of his role; he just USED it, and we drew the conclusion that it was identical to the revival doc from the last game. This is a good question to ask however.

TC:
Can you please tell us the NAME of your role? Do NOT quote the entire role PM (though you could paraphrase it), but knowing the name of your role would be very helpful here in examining AKCPLUTO

-Preston

[AKCPLUTO]

I got sick of bobbing corpses and had to find a new employer, hence my role as a cowardly lifeguard.

LOL @ being a fish out of water.

I felt like I had to roleclaim because I wanted to set everyone's minds at ease. It's called paranoia.

[TerrorChrist]

Looking back, I dont see that TC ever stated the NAME of his role; he just USED it, and we drew the conclusion that it was identical to the revival doc from the last game. This is a good question to ask however.

TC:
Can you please tell us the NAME of your role? Do NOT quote the entire role PM (though you could paraphrase it), but knowing the name of your role would be very helpful here in examining AKCPLUTO

-Preston

I am an ex-lifeguard.

I also wonder where this roleclaim suddenly comes from... the way I see it CaoCao is pretty much dead meat (provided all those virtual votes become real), but by claiming my role... AKC is suddenly extremely suspicious on my list...

Also a question: how is paraphrasing a pm we can't check proof for anything?

[reign of terror]

Wow, a surprise roleclaim! Even though that is kind of suspicious, I think CaoCao has sealed his fate by not posting at all for more than 20 days. We should deal with this roleclaim on day 3. I hope CaoCao is scum or my next vote is for you EM.

[reign of terror]

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