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[KZ-02] SANE END: Madness Metropolis


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VOTE COUNT
ABigDeer (1): Rafay
OrangeRush7 (1): KevinH,
Rafay (1): cam177

Not Voting (10): ABigDeer, Alternate_Tree, Angel Cruz dela Sant, BeeBs, ccabal86, Daimos, Electric Mango, OrangeRush7, reign of terror, Xx Karl xX

With 13 Alive, 7 is needed to lynch.
Deadline is in 5 days.

 
1. We need 2 replacements, one for OrangeRush7 and one for Angel Cruz dela Sant
2. July 4 is a holiday in the US right? I can move the deadline to July 5.

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I'd personally prefer the later date because of the holiday

As for who to vote, I agree we can't just keep voting off the inactive people, we have to make a real decision

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How about this?

Eva999 had to make a choice between Rafay and Reign of Terror.
He chose Rafay so Reign of Terror is suspect.

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How about this?

Eva999 had to make a choice between Rafay and Reign of Terror.
He chose Rafay so Reign of Terror is suspect.


I'm kind of liking this version better, since we haven't actually seen any real voting patterns.

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By that logic, and your scum probability list, Daimos would be the best candidate to lynch. That is of course if scum didn't scatter their votes on purpouse.


I am curious to hear why I would be the best candidate out of the people who voted for Rafay.

Reason I voted for Rafay is because we need to lynch someone and it seemed like everyone was leaning towards him.

I will probably use my vote on someone who is close to being lynch again.

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Hmm why cam are you bent on lynching sum1. Especially me. So you're just gonna kill sum1 easy, who is already being lynched by so many. Sounds like scum/opportunistic talk to me.

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The way the game normally works, at some point the town has to start guessing at whom the scum are in order to win.

Since a scum, but not a townie, died by a night-kill last night, maybe this game is not normal.

However, we should at least get some voting going so we have something to analyze later.

Unvote: OrangeRush7
Vote: Reign of Terror


... because Ccabal86 is kind of liking that version better.

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Well, like it or not, we need to get lynching...

Vote: Reign of Terror

it's really sad that by Day 3, we still have nothing to go off of.

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I'm still pondering that no townies were killed last night.
Did a doc save us? Can he do it again?
Did a cop investigate? Is there information that's not being shared?

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I think with so many ppl there have to be multiple roles involved or maybe two ppl maybe given the same role for two factions. Also are we the only 4-5 alive.

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Reign_of_Terror I'm in agreement with the sentiment we need a lynching, and I'm going on vacation away from steady internet for the next few days.

One thing that is probable is that whoever is the cop role has some crazy twist as par for the rest of the game, so we can't assume someone just withholding cop info

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You bolded Reign_of_Terror but I'm not sure that will count as a vote.

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  • Votes should be bolded or they may not be counted (e.g. Vote: Player).
  • Vote revocations should be bolded or they may not be counted (e.g. Unvote: Player or Unvote).
  • You may Vote: No Lynch - a simple majority of these vote types is usually required to send the game to Night phase without a Lynch.
  • Votes/Unvotes should be placed on a line all by themselves to make them easier for everyone to see.
  • Votes/Unvotes that reasonably follow the guidelines specified above, and are unambiguous with respect to player nicknames/abbreviations, will count.
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Please post again with your intent.

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Posts since June 9th:

14 KevinH
8 Rafay
5 BeeBs
5 ccabal86
4 Electric Mango
3 Alternate_Tree
3 Cam177
2 Daimos
1 Xx Karl xX
0 Angel Cruz dela Sant
0 OrangeRush7
0 Reign of Terror
0 ABigDeer



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Sorry about that, forget the rules sometimes

Vote: Reign_of_Terror

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I'm behind pushing for a vote as well, but tossing a forth on Reign of Terror would be a little quick I think?

Before that happens can we decide as a team, that if a cop/doc does have information regrading last night or any other that they come forward? If there is something out there, I think it might be best to get into a offensive position before the last day. Certainly there is considerations of how pertinent the information is etc., but disregarding that: do we as a team collectively think a power role with solid information should step forward at this point? I think with new players (at least in this forum) answering this question might help encourage them to step forward, assuming those power roles are active in the thread.

I am generally for it, concerns about the weight of the information aside, I would hate to drop another townie on so little information - especially when our highest voted candidate at this point hasn't posted all day.

If I'm the only one feeling this way, so be it. All you eager voters, notice I am asking for consensus, not pushing for a reveal that the town does not find appropriate. In the alternative, if we mis-lynch today, what about tomorrow?

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But if sum1 role claims then won't they be targeted by mafia hence making their role useless.

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But if someone role claims and their role seems legit, I'm sure the town doctor would protect them.
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Rogues: 2, VE: 5, Sparta: 4

Equilibrium War Stats:
Against VE nation #1: Soldiers Lost: 13,283 -- Infra Lost: 311.19 -- Land Lost: 6,072.29 -- NUKES EATEN: 5
Against VE nation #2: Soldiers Lost: 7,530-- Infra Lost: 251.73-- Land Lost: 8,930.64-- NUKES EATEN: 6
Against VE nation #3: Nothin, cuz he's a pansy
Against VE nation #4: Soldiers Lost: 2,706 -- Infra Lost: 65.06 -- Land Lost: 2,281.09 -- NUKES EATEN: 2

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and I'm with BeeBs, but I don't think anyone knows anything super useful yet or else they probably would have tried to turn the vote off of reign of terror. So:

Vote: Reign of terror

Oh and I'm using my iPhone to post this, and I don't think you can bold things on the mobile site, so does my vote count? Or is there some way to bold that I'm just not seeing?
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Total Wars Fought:

Rogues: 2, VE: 5, Sparta: 4

Equilibrium War Stats:
Against VE nation #1: Soldiers Lost: 13,283 -- Infra Lost: 311.19 -- Land Lost: 6,072.29 -- NUKES EATEN: 5
Against VE nation #2: Soldiers Lost: 7,530-- Infra Lost: 251.73-- Land Lost: 8,930.64-- NUKES EATEN: 6
Against VE nation #3: Nothin, cuz he's a pansy
Against VE nation #4: Soldiers Lost: 2,706 -- Infra Lost: 65.06 -- Land Lost: 2,281.09 -- NUKES EATEN: 2

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Nevermind, I guess I can switch to the full version on my iPhone instead of the mobile version, so:

Vote: reign of terror
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Total Wars Fought:

Rogues: 2, VE: 5, Sparta: 4

Equilibrium War Stats:
Against VE nation #1: Soldiers Lost: 13,283 -- Infra Lost: 311.19 -- Land Lost: 6,072.29 -- NUKES EATEN: 5
Against VE nation #2: Soldiers Lost: 7,530-- Infra Lost: 251.73-- Land Lost: 8,930.64-- NUKES EATEN: 6
Against VE nation #3: Nothin, cuz he's a pansy
Against VE nation #4: Soldiers Lost: 2,706 -- Infra Lost: 65.06 -- Land Lost: 2,281.09 -- NUKES EATEN: 2

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I would urge the cop (if any) to use discretion in role-claiming.
If all you know is that someone is a townie, there are other ways to let us know that without role-claiming.
For instance if I were killed and shown to be a cop, you could place more weight on my belief that Electric Mango is a townie.

However, if I am killed I will not be shown to be a cop.
I had a one-use tracker which I used on EM on the first night. It gave no result so I simply hinted that he's less likely to be townie.

I find it amusing that two other players found it appropriate to "probe" him.

Regarding lynching. I would not be totally sad if we didn't reach majority.
I'm guessing 3 scum are still alive out of the 13 remaining players. Odds favor a random lynch hitting a townie.

The real tragedy will be when somebody investigates and discovers scum but we are not able to get 7 votes to lynch. That's very possible since only 9 players have posted this day. We would need 7 of those 9 to agree to lynch. If the lynching target happens to be scum, there won't be any scum votes on him.

If the scum have night-kills, then they will be targetting active townies and our problem only gets worse. The case can be made that we should lynch inactive townies so that a majority will be easier to reach when we finally have better information.

A pro-town vigilante that has to kill would be wise to choose an inactive as well.

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