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[KH-11] The Force Awakens -- Mafia Win

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If you're worried about one vote against you then you have something to hide. If you have to attack another player, and try to figure how he's scum because he voted for you then you are worried about something. My vote was to get you to talk, because you were/are the highest person on my list within the wagon. outside the wagon I don't have a clue. I got you to talk, and it was a heavy defense about one vote. Your vote is base off my vote for you. My vote, however is based on "weak" "poor" "something else ad hominine" reasoning.


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If you're worried about one vote against you then you have something to hide. If you have to attack another player, and try to figure how he's scum because he voted for you then you are worried about something. My vote was to get you to talk, because you were/are the highest person on my list within the wagon. outside the wagon I don't have a clue. I got you to talk, and it was a heavy defense about one vote. Your vote is base off my vote for you. My vote, however is based on "weak" "poor" "something else ad hominine" reasoning.

 

My vote was to get you to talk, because you were/are the highest person on my list within the wagon.

 

And you still have zero explanation as to why I am the 'highest person' on your list.

 

And if you wanted me to talk, you should have just asked, not voted for me. It screams scum and you know it. C'mon, even I'm new and can see that.

 

Plus also, I hate unjustified attacks. You've basically secured the fact that you have zero reason to have voted for me, while giving me every reason to vote for you. I think it's because you're constantly trying to deflect it back to me, while giving the same answer.


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you don't necessarily need a reason for someone to be your highest suspect tbh



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MVP(Mod’s Choice)= Master Samus; I think Master Samus played amazingly for a guy who claims it was his second only mafia game. He never led the town on him and that’s why he deserves this award. He was impressive in manipulating the town that led to the ultimate mafia victory.
 
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If you're worried about one vote against you then you have something to hide. If you have to attack another player, and try to figure how he's scum because he voted for you then you are worried about something. My vote was to get you to talk, because you were/are the highest person on my list within the wagon. outside the wagon I don't have a clue. I got you to talk, and it was a heavy defense about one vote. Your vote is base off my vote for you. My vote, however is based on "weak" "poor" "something else ad hominine" reasoning.

so basically you would vote on anybody who didnt talk? I would understand the votes on Kazio and Lyner but on Rusken I don't think so. He posts like at least once or twice per day. 

 

Also nice way to use your vocabulary btw, LOL

 

then who do you think is scummy besides the inactives?


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Hey, to prove no harm, no foul, if iSoc wants to vote an inactive, then I will gladly unvote him and vote for the inactive as well. That way it will give us time to figure out who is scum and who is not.


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I doubt that either iSoc and Rusken are townies. Rusken was on the lynch wagon for FF but as I have pointed out before I feel that was a pro-town lynch. On the other hand iSoc has been pretty active and has given his reasons for why he thinks Rusken may be scummy. So to me it feels like two townies bickering against one another while the real scum hold back and lurk around.

 

However, I pushed for a lynch of the inactive on D1 and as a result ended up in the short-list for scum category. It seems like some ppl still feel that inactives and lurkers should not be lynched with extreme prejudice. So I am wait and see who the rest of the players thinks deserves to be lynched as there are no info from last night coming to light. If I had my way I would lynch the most inactive player on D2 as well but I am not gonna push for it unless others agree with my views as well.


edit: oops..i meant I doubt that either iSoc and Rusken are townies scum.


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I would be down to unvote my vote on Isoc to vote inactives too. 


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To me the the discussion between ISocialism and Rusken feels like the trappings of two townies going at it while the scum sits back and let's the town do their work for them. It is usually how these games begin. In my experience I have found that most scum play safe and quiet then pounce at the end game. It is the safest move and many Mafia players tend to be less active when they are Mafia. They already know the answers and become bored with the game and this their play style can be a tell.

My strategy is to lynch the inactives early as they are more likely to be scum and at worst are dead weight.
An active townie is a good townie. After a couple a couple days of voting patterns to analyze along with the daily conversations we will be able to make reliable lunches against the scum.

My vote will go for the most inactive person as the day draws near.
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To me the the discussion between ISocialism and Rusken feels like the trappings of two townies going at it while the scum sits back and let's the town do their work for them. It is usually how these games begin. In my experience I have found that most scum play safe and quiet then pounce at the end game. It is the safest move and many Mafia players tend to be less active when they are Mafia. They already know the answers and become bored with the game and this their play style can be a tell.

My strategy is to lynch the inactives early as they are more likely to be scum and at worst are dead weight.
An active townie is a good townie. After a couple a couple days of voting patterns to analyze along with the daily conversations we will be able to make reliable lunches against the scum.

My vote will go for the most inactive person as the day draws near.

Well said thats what I was thinking


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And like I've said, I'd rather vote for an inactive than iSoc, but he voted for me, gave some BS reasoning, and blam. Instant back and forth. Just add water.

 

In light of this, and my agreement with the others, lynching inactives (as I have stated quite a few times both during and prior to this) is more appropriate.

 

I will still keep my eye on iSoc, as I don't trust him, but I think for now, a truce would be more appropriate until we can nix out the inactives/lurkers. Agreed?

 

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I will vote for the inactive too. 

 

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Vote: Kazio 

 

He seems to be the person that hasn't responded in days= inactive = possible scum 


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Vote Count

Electric Mango (2): Kaziocore, Perez,
iSocialism (1): Finster Baby,
Perez (1): Electric Mango,
The Warrior (1): Samus,
Lyner (1): Robert2424, 
Rafay (1): Rusken,
Kaziocore (1): Road2Victory,
Rusken (0): 
Mandarijn (0):
Finster Baby (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
Yehom (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Samus (0):
Road2Victory (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Mandarijn, Imran Ehsan, The Warrior, Yehom, Lyner, Rafay, iSocialism,

 
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Wait, didn't someone say that Lyner is good at playing mafia? That would mean that he knows that being inactive = scum. Would it make more sense to knock out the inactive lurker?


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Kazio actually hasn't been on the forum since the 25th.

 

All the others are just lurking, so I think I rather want to lynch a lurker than an inactive...


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Wait, didn't someone say that Lyner is good at playing mafia? That would mean that he knows that being inactive = scum.

 

Lyner isn't usually inactive. He's a very active player; both as scum and town. Kaz is active too in games but strangely not in this one..... 


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Hmm... hey KevinH? Can we get a current post count of the players please?


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Rusken 55

KevinH 49

Robert2424 48

Road2Victory 46

Samus 36

iSocialism 27

Mandarijn 24

Imran Ehsan 23

The Warrior 19

Finster Baby 19

Electric Mango 17

Rafay 13

Perez 13

Yehom 10

Lyner 8

Kaziocore 7

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MVP(Mod’s Choice)= Master Samus; I think Master Samus played amazingly for a guy who claims it was his second only mafia game. He never led the town on him and that’s why he deserves this award. He was impressive in manipulating the town that led to the ultimate mafia victory.
 
Player of Mafia; Master Samus/emudevelopment (shared); I think both were instrumental in the town’s defeat. Both were manipulative and deceptive. They clearly came out as pro-town and looked like de-facto town leaders. They led the lynch wagon w/o anyone uncovering their true motives.

Samus, you should be proud that you've helped make an environment where people feel safe enough to share their experiences.


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Based off of Sammys post count numbers I will be voting for Lyner or Kaz with Lyner being the front runner. Lurking is worse than inactivity and Lyner is always scum anyway.
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Lyner is normally an active player, but also has a low posting count. However, he can't be trusted.

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