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The SK is more likely to hit townies than scum as there are more of us. Eventually they'd have to deal with each other but removing town power roles would be their first priority.


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I have two opinions of Kevin right now. One he's scum and thought this wasn't scum because we'll he wasn't his team. Therefore Kevin is trying to earn town creed. The second opinion, Kevin is telling the truth.

The same goes with imran. Could have been a mafia watcher or such as, and saw the night kill and wanted to earn town creed. Or the second option. He's telling the truth. I will believe imran, and Kevin I still don't know.
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4 dead out of 13 should be 9 alive


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Rhiz was the sk. A solo killer Kevin defense for him is most likely what Kevin's says. If this turned mafia it would be something different. But I will Kevin reasoning that he wasn't set on this and removed his vote. A sk gets a kill every night most likely. In my theory the sk has a better chance of taking out scum. Saying a lynch requires majority in this game. Along with that IMO sk would not benefit scum.

If we assume that there are 3 scum present in the game then the probability of the serial killer killing one of them last night, if he wasn't lynched, was ~27% (3 scum / 11 players other than the SK alive). Even if we assume that there are 4 scum that would still only be a 36% chance that the SK would target scum. Neither are great odds. I think that it's more likely that they would have left Rhizo alone and hopefully used him to their advantage, at least this early in the game while the odds were in their favor. This is assuming of course that there was a serial killer at all and that it was probably Rhizo. CoD makes a good point about that. If the scum were certain that Rhizo was a serial killer then they already had the advantage there. They knew who he was, but he probably didn't know who they were. They could always target him on a later night when he became more of a threat to them.

 

We now know that in addition to the scum, we had a JOAT (likely with a Vig ability) and a serial killer among us. If I'm reading Robert's narrative correctly it looks like TheDoom (Argent) was killed by a shot from Cyborg. Would that likely make Cyborg a Vigilante?


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That would be my bet.


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I havent read all the responses yet. But quickly, my thoughts on the kevin flip flop and trying to derail the lynch was very scummy.

 

1. Rhiz already had 6 votes, with Mand saying he will also probably vote for him before deadline.

2. Scum knew Rhizo was not scum and could be either Townie or SK

3. Lynching him whoever he was will be a good thing for the scum

4. Scum had one person who was not voting yet and if needed he could hammer the lynch vote

5. kevin unvotes knowing him scum buddy can hammer home a lynch if needed

6. He unvotes because Rhizo turns up town he will claim that he was the only one who didnt want to lynch a townie and therefore he is confirmed town.

7. kevin unvotes and his scum buddy hammers home the lynch (TW)


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Cyborg is a good character in the main series, a part of Robin's team,so yes,I think he is a vigilante, not a serial killer.

My question is, do vigilantes and serial killers have limits on the times they can kill?

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Fermion is lurking by the way. He is reading the thread and not posting.


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Not sure i see the incrimination on TW other than in that exact scenario. With so many people trying to be or not be the hammer vote instead of just voting its hard to tell.


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Cyborg is a good character in the main series, a part of Robin's team,so yes,I think he is a vigilante, not a serial killer.

My question is, do vigilantes and serial killers have limits on the times they can kill?

 

What do you think? Do vigilantes have limits?


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Some do. Rhizo didn't as it would have been listed (like robins "sane" modifier), but the vig could potentially be non consecutive, or possibly an even night vig (yeah odd and even night abilities are a thing in some game.)

I think its probably more likely that the Vig chose not to kill anyone night one for the same reason that we no lynched day 1.


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Why would a Vigilante chose TheDoom? He pretty much claimed that he is the real JOAT yesterday.


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Are you fingering TW because he was a late vote?


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Are you fingering TW because he was a late vote?


Why are you jealous?
Its because he stayed out of the conversation and voting for so long and then hammers the last vote. That's Imrans reasoning


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Note this:

 

10. TheDoom, Argent, The Town JOAT

 

It specifically says TheDoom was the Town JOAT.

 

This means there is a Scum JOAT as well. So that means the Vig kill maybe one of the ability of the Scum JOAT. So the Vig kill was not a pro-townie kill. It was a kill used by the scum to take out a powerful townie role.


Are you fingering TW because he was a late vote?

 

Why do you think Mandarijn was targetted. The scum him for a reason. Who did he suspect the most yesterday? Ask yourself these questions and then go over TWs posts again from yesterday.


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I have two opinions of Kevin right now. One he's scum and thought this wasn't scum because we'll he wasn't his team. Therefore Kevin is trying to earn town creed. The second opinion, Kevin is telling the truth.
The same goes with imran. Could have been a mafia watcher or such as, and saw the night kill and wanted to earn town creed. Or the second option. He's telling the truth. I will believe imran, and Kevin I still don't know.Also @Robert2424 is there 8 or 9 alive? I count 8 but you said 9.


I think its pretty safe to assume that Imrans claim is legit since he claimed a character and role and nobody counter claimed either. Could be that Robert made BB scum to throw us off, but the other character affiliations seem to be spot on


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Can there be two people with the same role?


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Of power roles? Unlikely. Theoretically possi le but usually in very odd game setups where all or most of the town has the same role.


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Re: kevin - He unvoted and flip flopped because he was 100% certain that Rhizo was not scum. He knew Rhizo will turn up either Town or SK. And he will use the strategy that he is already using that anyone voting for Rhizo was scum. I now beleive there was 1 scum on the wagon and 2 scum off the wagon. One being Kevin and a second one who was lurking.


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At least as far as Kevin is concerned, it makes sense because from a scums point of view its highly more likely that we lynch a townie in rhizo than the SK.
Imran who did you target last night?


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