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Cybernations Mafia

 
Only the following roles may exist in this game:

Vanilla Townie, Bodyguard, Commuter, Sane Cop, Role Cop, Vanilla Cop, Flavor Cop, Doctor, Friendly Neighbor, Follower, Gunsmith, Innocent Child, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Mafia Goon, Mafia Encryptor, Mafia Godfather, Mafia Ninja, Mafia Strongman, Mafia Traitor, Mason, Miller, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Nurse, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Serial Killer, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vigilante, Voyeur, Watcher

The following modifiers may also exist in this game:

Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Even/Odd Night, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot

 

Assigned character names are various alliances from Cybernations. Ignore all current Cybernations foreign relations. The current treaty web has no bearing on the assigned characters. Alliances were randomly assigned as "good" or "bad" roles so one's personal opinion of an alliance will not necessarily translate to this game.
 

Sample Role PM said:

You are Valhalla, a Vanilla Townie. Your power is in your vote. You win when the Town controls the game.

 
Players:

1) Imran Ehsan (New Pacific Order) a Town 2-Shot Roleblocker has been rolled on night 3.
2) Robert2424 (Independent Republic of Orange Nations) a Town Universal Backup, has been rolled on night 7.
3) d3mon (Green Protection Agency) a Town Jack-of-all-Trades has been disbanded on day 3.
4) Samus (Umbrella) a Town 2-Shot Rolestopper has been rolled on night 1.
5) Yehom (New Polar Order) a Town Even-Night Follower, has been rolled on night 5.
6) Rafay (Orange Defense Network) a Mafia Jack-of-all-Trades has been disbanded on day 6.
7) Canik
8) Chaplain of Death (Doombird Doomcave) a Town Non-Consecutive Night Watcher has been rolled on night 3.
9) Ali bin Turban (R&R) a Town Vanilla Cop has been rolled on night 4.
10) iSocialism
11) King Hitler (NATO) a Town 1-Shot Commuter has been rolled on night 2.
12) Kaziocore (The Legion) a Town Odd-Night Tracker has been disbanded on day 2.
13) Finster Baby (Mostly Harmless Alliance) a Mafia 1-Shot Strongman has been disbanded on day 5.
14) Rhizoctonia (The Dark Templar) the Mafia Godfather has been disbanded on day 4.
15) Lyner
16) Avater (Federation of Armed Nations), a Town Motion Detector, has been forced to disband on day 7.
17) Roquentin
18) Mandarijn

19) KevinH (Sparta) a Town Miller, has been rolled on night 6.

 

Rules:

• During the Day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
• You may vote No Lynch.
• After the Day, the game goes to Night.
• The game thread is closed during the Night. The Mafia may speak to each other at Night.
• All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.
• The Mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.
• After the Night, the game goes to Day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
• You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread, but you may not get an answer to some things.
• When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.

Game Days will last seven days.
Game Nights will last 48 hours.

I'm not really feeling voting for Yehom. His frustration doesn't prove anything, people get frustrated in Mafia all the time.

His vote history also proves very little, and other proven townies have very similar records. iSocialism, your own record is just as bad if not worse. If we assumed Lyner is town, then you voted for townies every day past Day 1. Even voting for me yesterday instead of Rhizo.

My suspect list:

1) iSocialism - for being defensive of Rhizo from the start all the way to the bitter end/voting town every day/gut feelings

2) Robert/Avater - for being active at times but overall extremely quiet and unhelpful.

3) Rafay/FB - mostly just gut feelings. Rafay is a little too quiet IMO. FB is erratic. Both seem like they could be struggling with what to do as scum.

4) Lyner/Yehom - Both made claims and seem decently town to me, but both claims seem to follow already shared info which could be rather easily faked by scum. So they still make the list, but are at the bottom.

Mand, Kevin and Roq I am very certain are all town. (and myself of course)
 

I'm not really feeling voting for Yehom. His frustration doesn't prove anything, people get frustrated in Mafia all the time.

His vote history also proves very little, and other proven townies have very similar records. iSocialism, your own record is just as bad if not worse. If we assumed Lyner is town, then you voted for townies every day past Day 1. Even voting for me yesterday instead of Rhizo.

My suspect list:

1) iSocialism - for being defensive of Rhizo from the start all the way to the bitter end/voting town every day/gut feelings

2) Robert/Avater - for being active at times but overall extremely quiet and unhelpful.

3) Rafay/FB - mostly just gut feelings. Rafay is a little too quiet IMO. FB is erratic. Both seem like they could be struggling with what to do as scum.

4) Lyner/Yehom - Both made claims and seem decently town to me, but both claims seem to follow already shared info which could be rather easily faked by scum. So they still make the list, but are at the bottom.

Mand, Kevin and Roq I am very certain are all town. (and myself of course)

 

Care to show me how I was defending rhiz from the start.

 

Roq, confirm it for me: Did you target Mand last night?

 

Yeah he already said he did. So unfortunately you can't use that to really prove something. Your claim does sound pretty sincere though.

 

A little curious how you can confirm 3 things (Imran's protection, Mand's, and Yehom's tracking).. but have limited powers. There have been 4 nights, so can't be even and odd. Guess there could be some other kind of unusual modifier, just noting that this is a tad curious.

 

 

Yehom's tracking said I didn't do anything last night, of course I know that I didn't do anything last night

 

I checked Imran on the first night, and no about Mand it's just to confirm Roq's statement since it's not a clear one

 

Now you know what I mean by 'I got something, sort of'. It's useless to claim that I saw a protection before today, yet that information is pretty vital today. I'm a bit disappointed yesterday after Roq claimed since I don't know what to do with my info, but now since I know he is weak doctor, that means everyone he checked is confirmed town, I can further validate Roq's claim as a town doc.

 

 

For the non believer, I kind of prepared for this on day 2, I specifically gave an advice for the doctor, hinting that I know there is a doctor.

Note that King Hitler quoted 'Protection' instead of specific role like Doctor or Bodyguard, and I answered Doctor instead of 'Protection' role. I figured that if a protection is used on the first night it should be a doctor, since a bodyguard blindly targetting on the first night without concrete infos isn't a good move.

 

 

Rafay is a little too quiet IMO.

 

That's just me every game really. Trying to contemplate on who to vote next.

 

Why did Kev vote for Avater btw? 

Unvote Yehom

 

I haven't read everything yet, but he seems town at the moment.

 

Rafay is a little too quiet IMO.

 

That's just me every game really. Trying to contemplate on who to vote next.

 

Why did Kev vote for Avater btw?

 

Inactive more than likely. That's always Kevin's MO.

Vote Count

 

Yehom (2): iSocialism, Finster Baby
Avater (1): KevinH

Canik (0):
Finster Baby (0):
iSocialism (0):
KevinH (0):
Lyner (0):
Mandarijn (0):
Rafay (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Roquentin (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Avater, Canik, Lyner, Mandarijn, Rafay, Robert2424, Roquentin, Yehom

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at update (deadline).
Update (deadline) is Tuesday, May 31st, at 10:00am CN Server Time.

 

 

Confirmed Town: Canik(since I didn't die when I used protect on him), me

 

We could safely assume most Rhizo voters were town since the Mafia likely wouldn't vote for the godfather.

What do you mean you didn't die when you protected him. I don't think protecting a scum would cause a town doctor to die if that is what your suggesting.

 

Also Rhiz dodge the two previous days, it would only be time that he would be lynched. Scum might vote for their own, but it would be all. It also wouldn't be early on.

 

 

I'm a Weak town doctor, so if I target scum with protection I would die, so add Mandarijn to that list.

 

Why didn't you tell us from the start you're a weak Doctor?

@Lyner: What modifier do you have on your role and what was/were the other result(s) you got so far?

 

@Yehom: Are you a Tracker or Follower?

@Yehom: Are you a Tracker or Follower?

 

Follower

 

Also I think that Lyner's list is pretty much what is confirmed at this point. This means that of the other 5 people (Avater, Finster, Isoc, Rafay and Robert) there should be maybe 3/4 mafia. My question now is: do we use Roq as a scouting tool or is his healing ability more useful to us now? If Roq announces in advance who he's going to protect and he dies, we know who is scum, but we'll lose 2 people in the next night, so it is a bit of a risk. Can we afford that at this point in the game?

@Canik: What info do you have to share from your role, as you're pretty much a confirmed townie now as well? (You don't have to role claim if you have an important role that's still usefull. But please share any info you can)

 

@TW: Can you ping Robert and Avater again?

 

 

@Yehom: Are you a Tracker or Follower?

 

Follower

 

Also I think that Lyner's list is pretty much what is confirmed at this point. This means that of the other 5 people (Avater, Finster, Isoc, Rafay and Robert) there should be maybe 3/4 mafia. My question now is: do we use Roq as a scouting tool or is his healing ability more useful to us now? If Roq announces in advance who he's going to protect and he dies, we know who is scum, but we'll lose 2 people in the next night, so it is a bit of a risk. Can we afford that at this point in the game?

 

Yeah, I've thought about that as well. I would say he should put 3 names every day of who he might protect (2 should be pretty much confirmed townies) and pick one then, if he happens to die. We know who's scum. For example: "I'm going to protect Mandarijn, Canik or XX"

 

I'm going trough some posts now and it seems Finster, Rafay, Robert and/or Avater are scum. iSoc is the 5th one, but I'm getting the feeling he might be town. Although in the previous games were he was town, he was way less active than this game, so this might also be an indication he's scum.

I'm pretty sure all scums are between those 5 though, so anyone that wants to clear his name, it's your chance now to give us intel!

Robert was pinged again last night. I'll try and connect with Avater.

I'm odd voyeur

 

On the third day I peeped AbT and got the result 'Watched'

 

Either it's scum or it's CoD, pretty much useless unless others can complement my info

 

 

 

Even though we can use Roq's ability to find out which are scum, I think it'd be better to use it to protect confirmed townies, since if he got a scum then he'd die

 

If we lynch another townie today, Roq targetted a scum, and Scums killed another one, it'd mean 3 deaths and might risk the town losing tomorrow

 

 

Moreso, if we make Roq state who he is going to protect, and tomorrow he died, we can never know if he was killed by his weak modifier or by scum.

 

Unless there is another protection role to save Roq I'd say it's not a good strategy

 

 

 

 

I'd say FB/Avater/Rafay is a good candidate for today's lynch

 

 

Care to show me how I was defending rhiz from the start.

Looking back at when the wagon started on Rhizo. Looks like you said nothing at first, then about half-way into the wagon you say

"Go ahead and try to fight this, by calling me scum, find some random
thing and say I'm siding with rhiz, when I'm not. I'm siding with not
using BS to push a vote.

This whole I think so and so is scum, and the best choice, but I'm
going to vote for another guy because he has more votes. This is getting
old. Therefore,

Let's the game begin.

Vote Imran"

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/56759-tw-01-cybernations-mafia-day-5/?p=854996

Which was May 12th, so for a long time you did side with Rhizo and against townies.

Though I will say in your defense, you also were rather defensive of Lyner. (jokes that he is always scum aside) And it seems Lyner is more than likely town now. This shows you were at least consistent in being cautious towards joining wagons. You also encouraged giving me the benefit of the doubt early, but I dismissed it then was worried it could be scum trying to butter me up.

So upon farther review, I am slightly less suspicious of you. But the steadfast defense of Rhizo and terrible voting record are reason to be wary of you IMO. I hope you understand. Since you are active though and do make some posts that provide at least some helpful insight, I am thinking it would be better of me to put those suspicions aside from now and move to the next on my list.

I withhold my vote for the moment tho, want to give Robert/Avater a chance to speak.

 

Yehom's tracking said I didn't do anything last night, of course I know that I didn't do anything last night I checked Imran on the first night, and no about Mand it's just to confirm Roq's statement since it's not a clear one Now you know what I mean by 'I got something, sort of'.

Ah okay, thanks for clearing that up. Still question the wisdom of indicating your role so early. I was able to guess you role due to that.. but it appears you probably are town after all. Glad I didn't get you lynched.

And things did work out alright, so maybe it was a good move. I believe it was Kevin earlier who said there is no one right way to play Mafia and that is true. Though some things are less debatable than others, like Vanilla Town should scum hunt and not care so damn much about their own life. To me that was a rather damning scum tell on Rhizo. Which is why the 'Backup' theory he proposed gave me some pause.

[/ramblings]

 

@Canik: What info do you have to share from your role, as you're pretty much a confirmed townie now as well? (You don't have to role claim if you have an important role that's still usefull. But please share any info you can)

I don't have anything to share. My role isn't investigative. I'd role claim but I think it'd just benefit scum.

 

Even though we can use Roq's ability to find out which are scum, I think it'd be better to use it to protect confirmed townies, since if he got a scum then he'd die

I agree with Lyner on this strategy. We've already narrowed down the potential scum, but we're not far from losing due to town deaths. So survival > investigation.

My vote on Avater was based on inactivity.  When the town needs votes, he won't be there to deliver if he's a townie and there's just as much likelihood that he is scum as any other unconfirmed player.

@TW: What result does person Z get? If:

- person X watches Y

- person Z 'voyeurs' Y

- X gets killed

 

No result or watched?

Vote:  Mandarijn

 

FOS:  Lyner, Imran, ABT, Canik, Kevin

From Rhizo's post: http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/56759-tw-01-cybernations-mafia-day-5/?p=854318

All confirmed or pretty much confirmed townies.

 

So it's definitly 4 of these 5 guys (only Yehom isn't on both lists, but I kinda believe him): I'm convinced Finster is 100% scum, Rafay 95%, Avater and Robert are 50-50% and iSoc is well he's probably 60-70%...

 

So I'd rather vote for a Finster or Rafay, than for Avater as we can be down 2 townies that way (not that Avater is of much use, but he's also of no use to the scum I think, unless he's still active there, which would be really lame...).

 

 

Vote: Finster Baby

 

 

I also agree with you guys, it's better to keep Roq alive and let him protect the confirmed townies.

UPDATED

Green is confirmed town, light green is pretty much confirmed town, yellow is most probably town. Orange is most probably scum, rest is unsure, but 1-2 out of 3 are scum.

 

 

 

Yesterday at deadline:

Rhizoctonia (5): KevinH, Finster Baby, Yehom, Ali bin Turban, Rafay, Mandarijn, Lyner

Canik (3): Rhizoctonia, Canik, iSocialism

iSocialism (2): Roquentin

Not voting: Avater, Robert2424, Canik

 

 

Day 3 at deadline:

d3mon (5): Rafay, KevinH, Roquentin, Rhizoctonia, Yehom

Rhizoctonia (5): Chaplain of Death, Canik, Imran Ehsan, Mandarijn, Ali bin Turban

Canik (1): Finster Baby

Finster Baby (1): Lyner

Imran Ehsan (1): iSocialism (GOT KILLED DURING THE NIGHT)

Not voting: Avater, d3mon, Robert2424

 

Day 2 at deadline:

Kaziocore (5): Roquentin, KevinH, Lyner, King Hitler, Mandarijn

Lyner (4): Canik, Chaplain of Death, Finster Baby, iSocialism

Canik (1): Ali bin Turban

Imran Ehsan (1): Rhizoctonia

King Hitler (1): TheDoom/Yehom (GOT KILLED DURING THE NIGHT)

Rhizoctonia (1): Imran Ehsan

 

Not voting: Avater, d3mon, Kaziocore, Rafay, Robert2424

 

 

iSoc hasn't voted on any scum yet and the other 2 are just inactive...

Finster and Rafay only jumped on Rhizo's wagon on the 2nd day, because they gave up on him. They both stayed off the previous day.

Finster and maybe iSoc were the scum(s) on Lyners wagon, they prefered to lynch him over Kazio, but didn't want to take to much risks.

Rafay started the wagon on an inactive in an attempt to divert attention from Rhizo and it worked.

Is it time yet?

 

Unvote.

 

I guess it's not time yet.

 

Vote: Finster Baby.

 

Mandarijn does good analysis.

So lemme get this straight.

 

Since I laid off Rhizo the first day as I felt Canik was the better choice at the time, and then didn't come at him full throated soon as day broke the next day that makes me scum??

 

Hardly. Pardon me for having my own RL business keeping me from participating as much as you'd like.

 

If you remember, I did go and analyze why I felt Rhizo was the better choice than Canik at the time. I still feel that analysis of Rhizo at the time was dead on, and it was accurate, as he DID have a power role, as opposed to being VT as he claimed all along.

 

I don't buy Lyner's roleclaims right now, nor do I buy Yehom's either. I'm not going to change my vote, but at this point everyone is suspect, as the scum are trying to save their own skins.

Vote: Finster Baby

FB was in real early on Rhizo on D4. Pretty bold of him if he is scum.

FB was in real early on Rhizo on D4. Pretty bold of him if he is scum.

True, but don't you think if you were scum and Rhizo almost got lynched the previous day that they would agree to sacrifice him the next day and earn town points?

 

Both Rhizo and Finster have been pushing for Canik/Shah. Finster has remained vague and not committing on anyone else besides him.

 

If Finster isn't scum, then Lyner/Yehom or Canik/Roq are lying, but at this point I'm not convinced about that yet, but we'll see when we lynch Finster. If he isn't Lyner and Yehom are scum. (REMEMBER THIS IF FINSTER ISN'T SCUM AND I'M DEAD ) Also Finster hasn't given any usefull info yet (together with Rafay, iSoc, Canik and our 2 inactives), Roq is vouching for Canik, which leaves us with our 5 potential scum candidates... It would be really nice if Rafay, iSoc, Avater and Robert could share their thoughts with us. Especially if they're town as it's because of their inactivity that we don't have this in the bag yet...

So lemme get this straight.

 

Since I laid off Rhizo the first day as I felt Canik was the better choice at the time, and then didn't come at him full throated soon as day broke the next day that makes me scum??

 

Hardly. Pardon me for having my own RL business keeping me from participating as much as you'd like.

 

If you remember, I did go and analyze why I felt Rhizo was the better choice than Canik at the time. I still feel that analysis of Rhizo at the time was dead on, and it was accurate, as he DID have a power role, as opposed to being VT as he claimed all along.

 

I don't buy Lyner's roleclaims right now, nor do I buy Yehom's either. I'm not going to change my vote, but at this point everyone is suspect, as the scum are trying to save their own skins.

And the day before you still wanted to lynch Lyner. It's either you or Lyner+Yehom, at least they have given us some info (although it's nothing that can't be reproduced as there was no real new info), so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt at this point.

 

If Finster isn't scum, then Lyner/Yehom or Canik/Roq are lying, but at this point I'm not convinced about that yet, but we'll see when we lynch Finster. If he isn't Lyner and Yehom are scum. (REMEMBER THIS IF FINSTER ISN'T SCUM AND I'M DEAD ) Also Finster hasn't given any usefull info yet (together with Rafay, iSoc, Canik and our 2 inactives), Roq is vouching for Canik, which leaves us with our 5 potential scum candidates... It would be really nice if Rafay, iSoc, Avater and Robert could share their thoughts with us. Especially if they're town as it's because of their inactivity that we don't have this in the bag yet...

 

Your scum grouping is a mess, Manda

 

 

 

First I confirmed Roq's claim, that means if Roq is scum then I am scum too. But Yehom? I pressured Yehom early at the day, and Yehom suddenly role claimed to hopefully 'clear' my name. I don't see how you can group us together.

 

And Canik? I fervently push for a Canik lynch since second day, I think you can safely say that we can't both be scums together, perhaps one is town and one is scum or both are town, but no way we can both be scums.

Which means a Roq-Lyner-Canik scum circle couldn't happen