If Finster isn't scum, then Lyner/Yehom or Canik/Roq are lying, but at this point I'm not convinced about that yet, but we'll see when we lynch Finster. If he isn't Lyner and Yehom are scum. (REMEMBER THIS IF FINSTER ISN'T SCUM AND I'M DEAD ) Also Finster hasn't given any usefull info yet (together with Rafay, iSoc, Canik and our 2 inactives), Roq is vouching for Canik, which leaves us with our 5 potential scum candidates... It would be really nice if Rafay, iSoc, Avater and Robert could share their thoughts with us. Especially if they're town as it's because of their inactivity that we don't have this in the bag yet...

 

Your scum grouping is a mess, Manda

 

 

 

First I confirmed Roq's claim, that means if Roq is scum then I am scum too. But Yehom? I pressured Yehom early at the day, and Yehom suddenly role claimed to hopefully 'clear' my name. I don't see how you can group us together.

 

And Canik? I fervently push for a Canik lynch since second day, I think you can safely say that we can't both be scums together, perhaps one is town and one is scum or both are town, but no way we can both be scums.

Which means a Roq-Lyner-Canik scum circle couldn't happen

@TW: What result does person Z get? If:

- person X watches Y

- person Z 'voyeurs' Y

- X gets killed

 

No result or watched?

Person Z would see "watched".

Vote Count

 

Finster Baby (3): Mandarijn, KevinH, Lyner

Yehom (2): iSocialism, Finster Baby

Avater (0):

Canik (0):
iSocialism (0):
KevinH (0):
Lyner (0):
Mandarijn (0):
Rafay (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Roquentin (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Avater, Canik, Rafay, Robert2424, Roquentin, Yehom

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at update (deadline).
Update (deadline) is Tuesday, May 31st, at 10:00am CN Server Time.

Yeah, I don't remember how I matched you up with Yehom, but you're in the same color in my notes. I don't match you with Canik though, I match him with Roq. 

 

That's why Finster is (most probably) scum. He could be the 1 townie of the 5, but chances are very slim...

 

 

True, but don't you think if you were scum and Rhizo almost got lynched the previous day that they would agree to sacrifice him the next day and earn town points?

That does seem likely.. and I guess they would try to spread their votes out some so they don't all join Rhizo's wagon suspiciously late.

And since FB seems to want to vote his own way and isn't going to follow the virtually confirmed town, I guess we're not risking much by lynching him.

I'll go ahead and add my vote to him for now, but I'm very open to hearing arguments on why Rafay/Avater/Robert might be better if anyone wants to make those arguments.

Vote: Finister Baby

Let's give Finster still a chance to defend himself before we lynch him.

Vote Count

 

Finster Baby (4): Mandarijn, KevinH, Lyner, Canik

Yehom (2): iSocialism, Finster Baby

Avater (0):

Canik (0):
iSocialism (0):
KevinH (0):
Lyner (0):
Mandarijn (0):
Rafay (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Roquentin (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Avater, Canik, Rafay, Robert2424, Roquentin, Yehom

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at update (deadline).
Update (deadline) is Tuesday, May 31st, at 10:00am CN Server Time.

I think row should protect me, it's the only way to clear my name.

 

Also

Vote FB

Vote Count

 

Finster Baby (5): Mandarijn, KevinH, Lyner, Canik, iSocialism

Yehom (1): Finster Baby

Avater (0):

Canik (0):
iSocialism (0):
KevinH (0):
Lyner (0):
Mandarijn (0):
Rafay (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Roquentin (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Avater, Canik, Rafay, Robert2424, Roquentin, Yehom

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at update (deadline).
Update (deadline) is Tuesday, May 31st, at 10:00am CN Server Time.

I think row should protect me, it's the only way to clear my name.

 

Also

Vote FB

No. We don't want to risk his life...

 

You should clear your name by taking part in the discussion and giving us your thoughts...

I already gave my list and been giving input. Why don't want me to have my name clear?

I already gave my list and been giving input. Why don't want me to have my name clear?

A lot has changed since you gave that. And because you could be lying and then we'll be down 2 townies tomorrow...

So are we still waiting on FB to talk or should I go for it?

A lot has change because of what I said as well. We also won't be down two townies tomorrow. You guys think there is five scums and I will agree. However, your guys grouping has me as one of them. I was trying to figure it out. Who are all the people.  Two will die by tomorrow's beginning. Leaving us with 9. 3 scums 6 towns.

 If we lynch successfully the next three times, they will also kill three. 6 down out of the 11, 5 left. 2 scums and 3 town. If we then mis lynched, game won for the scum.

If we mis lynched early tho, lets say tomorrow with 9 alive, 3 scum 6 town, the next day we are  3 scums 3 town. The game is also over. In other words we can't afford to mis-lynch. I don't want you guys to have the mis-lynch fall on me. Roq might be targeted tonight saying he can't be protected, it's better for him to go after me so  I can be I'm confirmed.  THis should narrow it down.

I'm all for other ideas, but an idea that leads to a mis-lynch won't work.

I think we need the time for a bit more roq.

I already gave my list and been giving input. Why don't want me to have my name clear?

 

You got no infos from night?

 

 

Roq might be targeted tonight saying he can't be protected, it's better for him to go after me so I can be I'm confirmed. THis should narrow it down.

TheWarrior can you tell us if it'd show how Roq died at night or will it just say 'rolled' either way?

If it will indicate Roq died by targeting scum this plan by iSoc sounds like it might be a solid plan.

If it won't indicate one way or another then not such a great plan.

if anyone has tracking abilites they should tell us now

 

Roq might be targeted tonight saying he can't be protected, it's better for him to go after me so I can be I'm confirmed. THis should narrow it down.

 

TheWarrior can you tell us if it'd show how Roq died at night or will it just say 'rolled' either way?

 

If it will indicate Roq died by targeting scum this plan by iSoc sounds like it might be a solid plan.

 

If it won't indicate one way or another then not such a great plan.

 

We would notice two deaths. The mafia will still choose to target someone else in the night.

 

I already gave my list and been giving input. Why don't want me to have my name clear?

 

You got no infos from night?

 

Can you tell us anything at all, that could indicate you're town? What's your role? (don't claim it, if you can't though)

 

@Roq: Wait some more with the final vote on Finster. He only posted once and we're still debating something about your night action.

well, my role doesn't have any more information to add, and releasing my AA (character) name would allow mafia to think of a better false one for their guys. I also now that someone is going to try to discredit my rc, and I don't know how everyone will take it. It could further people idea of not knowing, and lead to a mis-lynch. The only true way right now, is having roq protect me.

Finster your defense? I'm holding off on voting to ensure we have maximum time to prepare for next night and day. Finster is going to get lynched on deadline anyway if he doesn't have a solid defense. If people have information to share regarding them being useful to the town, please speak up

TheWarrior can you tell us if it'd show how Roq died at night or will it just say 'rolled' either way?

It would only say rolled.

Meh, I say it depends. If Finster isn't scum Roq shouldn't risk it as iSoc is probably scum then.

 

If Finster is scum, there's a reasonable chance iSoc could be town, but I'm not sure if it's worth the risk. I'll leave that upto Roq, but Roq should then decide if he protects Canik, me or iSoc. So we know for sure that if he dies (and someone else also dies) iSoc is scum as he already succesfully protected me and Canik once. Or are there any holes in this logic?

 

 

@KevinH: I want more input from you! You're one of the confirmed townies, we need your input!

If Finster is scum, there's a reasonable chance iSoc could be town, but I'm not sure if it's worth the risk. I'll leave that upto Roq, but Roq should then decide if he protects Canik, me or iSoc. So we know for sure that if he dies (and someone else also dies) iSoc is scum as he already succesfully protected me and Canik once. Or are there any holes in this logic?

 

I see 2 risks:

1. If Finster is town, this scenario means we lost a total of 3 towns tomorrow, Scums may win the game

2. Scum may have a JOAT that has a one-shot kill ability, which means in addition of killing with 'faction kill' ability, they may kill another person using 'JOAT kill' ability on one night.

 

In case we're really unlucky, we got both risk 1 and risk 2, which means a certain defeat for town, but the chances of that happening is pretty unlikely IMO, but you asked

 

 

 

 

Roq will be targetted tonight by scum, that I'm pretty sure

I think they already used their JoaT kill on the night Chaplain and Imran died...

 

Yeah, if we still have a protective ability (and I think we do) he should still protect Roq.