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[iSocialism]

Why were you dead silent on D2 and now suddenly became very active?

@Rafay @Whitebeard you need to post more!

why does this bug you? Wouldn't you want someone to become more active. Plus I can't say because RL without getting some half-ass accusation.

[Mandarijn]

It's just odd. You go from not contributing at all on one day, to be very active at the start of the next. There has to be a reason for that...

[iSocialism]

A little bit of RL, a little bit of Rhiz walls, and a little bit of play style.

Are my actions now anti-town?

[Chaplain of death]

Only your thought that scum only has a 1/4 chance of finding the cop. Consider this.

Scum likely used role cop twice now, they wont have nightkilled the people they investigated since killing someone else and investigating leads to finding the cop faster. While its possible that we lynched someone they investigated (or vig killed them). Id say its likely that scum have investigated 1 of those 4, if not 2. So by waiting another day you are saying we should take a 1/3rd chance on receiving 0 information.

The town is already in a dire situation. If we mislynch today we lose

[Mandarijn]

Maybe

Can everyone post 3 names (not more!) of who you think are scum please?

 

Mine are:

Canik

Rafay

WB

[SeaBeeGipson]

Mine are:
Canik
Isoc
WB

[Canik]

 

 

One of the reasons I thought TW wasn't scum was his vote on Canik (Fermion at the time), together with Ali, Imran and Rhizo. So now that they're all town, that means we were right with accusing Fermion of being scum => Canik is the 2nd scum.

Except it doesn't. It just means it wasn't a set-up by those confirmed town. They can be and were still wrong though.

If I were scum I wouldn't have tried to convince the Vig not to use his power last night.

Why not? There was what, less than 50% chance that he would kill a scum...

 

There was 9 alive at the time so it was only a 33% chance of hitting scum. Also KH was suggesting TW as a target, if I were scum I would have known he was town and would have been happy with that. And I pointed out that Cop/Vig ran the risk of targeting the same person.

It doesn't absolutely prove my innocence but it's not very likely scum would hurt themselves like that. Just like how scum wouldn't have tried to stop townies from fighting each other so your one post asking them not to has us believing you are probably town.  Though that doesn't prove 100% you are either.

btw KH. If we fail to lynch a scum again today, make sure to use your power again and kill another target. We have to kill a scum otherwise tomorrow will be 3/3 and town loses.

[Canik]

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My top scum suspects are:

iSoc
WB
Rafay

then CoD/Rhizo

then Mandarjin

then KH

[SeaBeeGipson]

If we mislynch, the game is pretty set in stone at that point.

I'd rather not risk a lynch of someone I view on the fence, but someone who has been on the scum radar for a majority of the game. Despite not being active since the 11th, I think taking down the Mafia numbers would at least let us stay in the running to win for another day.

After my last kill put us in this spot, I'd like to get the rest of people's opinions on a kill tonight in the event we need it. We have enough Xs to allow this and allow the cop to investigate again.
Vote whitebeard

[Mandarijn]

We should wait on a few more lists before we lynch (iSoc, Rhizo, CoD to start with) and maybe Rafay and WB if they want to participate again, but we're not gonna wait for them...

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My top scum suspects are:

iSoc
WB
Rafay

then CoD/Rhizo

then Mandarjin

then KH

So all the inactives/lurkers?

[Canik]

We should wait on a few more lists before we lynch (iSoc, Rhizo, CoD to start with) and maybe Rafay and WB if they want to participate again, but we're not gonna wait for them...

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My top scum suspects are:

iSoc
WB
Rafay

then CoD/Rhizo

then Mandarjin

then KH

So all the inactives/lurkers?

Yep, I do think most if not all the scum have been playing the quiet game.

CoD is really high up there too, he's played very differently from last game. I just am doubtful CoD & iSoc are both scum since they're going at it now. Could be bussing though.

[Chaplain of death]

See the difference between me, and rafay and iSoc, is that i change my play style fromgame to game regardless of my role, whereas they stay quiet and risk looking scummy so that it looks innocent when they are scum. I didn't intend to be so inactive as i got but i got quite fed up with everyone posting a phd thesis on something someone said.

My suspects would be iSoc, Rafay and Whitebeard
(I think they told Whitebeard to lurk)

After that Canik

[Rhizoctonia]

So I do think, the 3 people that need to get all their feelings/thoughts out by the  end of today are Mand/KH/and myself.  It's very likely that one of us is going to be the next killed, as we have been more of the active people, but mostly because scum know they don't really stand a chance of pushing a lynch on one of us and causing a mislynch.  So nonetheless, by the end of the day, us 3 should at least make our thoughts known/finalized in the likely case one of us is the next to go.  

 

Scum List as of right this minute:

 

1.  Rafay

2.  WB

3.  Canik

 

 Rafay I'm about positive on.  He has played a similar style game when I was scum with him, with sitting back and not looking to say or contribute anything.  He hasn't contributed anything in this game at all, neither day.  I'm pretty sure at least 1 scum is playing the barely posting style, and that leaves Isocialism/Rafay, and though I certainly haven't written Isocialism off, I am more confident Rafay is at this point.  His only votes or FOS this game has been two confirmed townies as well, ABT/TW.  

 

I was wrong with Imran, and thus I do not feel as comfortable coming out so for sure on anyone, but if I had to pick the person out of everyone I'm most comfortable with lynching and likely being scum, it's Rafay, and at this point, is probably the best choice for today and not mislynching.

 

WB - I'm betting is scum.  Along with Canik, he gave off the impression of scum from the beginning from getting hostile early with ABT calling him out, to then posting nothing about the game, and staying very quiet.  I agree with CoD's point, my bet is the scum said on N1 to watch what he posts/not post too much, and instead try to stay in the shadows and not give anymore suspicion.  WB at this point would be my #2 scum.

 

Canik -  I was suspicious of Fermion, and pretty much every confirmed townie felt a sense of that early on.  Canik has done well since he took over to look pretty townish, but I still have this feeling about him.  He's been inching off my top scum list slowly with some of his posts and actions, and I'm not sold he's for sure scum, though the remaining people who could be scum haven't been suspicious enough yet to kick him off my top 3.  

 

I've already listed my thoughts on whose left, Isocialism and CoD so I wont rehash.  They both have some things/actions that make me a bit suspicious of them, however they have some things that make me believe they're town.  I'm not sold on them for sure either way.  I'm trying to do my best to really find somethings about the likes of Canik/Isocialism/CoD that can make me find, in my opinion, the 3rd scum.  With how important every lynch is, it's imperative we don't screw up...we've used all our mistakes up. 

[KevinH]

Vote Count:

Rafay (1): Rhizoctonia,
iSocialism (1): Chaplain of Death,
Whitebeard (1): King Hitler,
King Hitler (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):
Canik (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
Mandarijn (0)

No lynch (0):

Not voting: iSocialism, Canik, Whitebeard, Rafay, Mandarijn,

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, June 22, at 12:00 EDT.

[Mandarijn]

 

We should wait on a few more lists before we lynch (iSoc, Rhizo, CoD to start with) and maybe Rafay and WB if they want to participate again, but we're not gonna wait for them...

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My top scum suspects are:

iSoc
WB
Rafay

then CoD/Rhizo

then Mandarjin

then KH

So all the inactives/lurkers?

Yep, I do think most if not all the scum have been playing the quiet game.

CoD is really high up there too, he's played very differently from last game. I just am doubtful CoD & iSoc are both scum since they're going at it now. Could be bussing though.

Ok, but you still place CoD at the same level as Rhizo?

[Mandarijn]

My Top four scum list

Rafay

COD

Canik

WB

 

My Top four town

Myself

KH

Rhiz

Mandi

Who would be the 3 that you think are scum?

[KevinH]

Vote Count:

Rafay (1): Rhizoctonia,
iSocialism (1): Chaplain of Death,
Whitebeard (1): King Hitler,
King Hitler (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):
Canik (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
Mandarijn (0)

No lynch (0):

Not voting: iSocialism, Canik, Whitebeard, Rafay, Mandarijn,

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, June 22, at 12:00 EDT.

[iSocialism]

 

My Top four scum list

Rafay

COD

Canik

WB

 

My Top four town

Myself

KH

Rhiz

Mandi

Who would be the 3 that you think are scum?

 

it's in order

[Mandarijn]

What's the reason you put CoD so high?

[KevinH]

Vote Count:

Rafay (1): Rhizoctonia,
iSocialism (1): Chaplain of Death,
Whitebeard (1): King Hitler,
King Hitler (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):
Canik (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
Mandarijn (0)

No lynch (0):

Not voting: iSocialism, Canik, Whitebeard, Rafay, Mandarijn,

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, June 22, at 12:00 EDT.