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This setup was designed for the Open Setup Design Contest 2015.
 
Roles

• 1 Mafia Y-shot Rolecop
• 1 Mafia Y-shot Doctor
• 1 Mafia Y-shot Framer

• 1 Town X-shot Cop
• 1 Town X-shot Jailkeeper
• 1 Town X-shot Vigilante
• 7 VTs

Mechanics

• Daystart
• "X" starts as 4, and decreases with each shot spent by one of the power roles.
• "Y" starts as 4, and decreases with each shot spent by one of the power roles.
• If X or Y goes below 0 in one night, all actions by that team will fail and no shots will be spent.
• Every time a Town Power Role dies, X increases by 1.
• Every time a Mafia Member dies, Y increases by 1.

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• Ali bin Turban Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2
• Chaplain of Death, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 4
• Fermion Canik, Mafia Y-Shot Framer, lynched Day 3
• Imran Ehsan, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 2
• iSocialism, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 5
• King Hitler, Town X-Shot Vigilante, killed in the end-game
• Lyner, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1
• Mandarijn, Town X-Shot Cop, killed Night 3
• Rafay, Mafia Y-Shot Role Cop, lynched Day 4
• Rhizoctonia, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 4
• Robert2424, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 1
• The Warrior, Town X-Shot Jailkeeper, killed Night 2
• Whitebeard, Mafia Y-Shot Doctor, survives to the end

Mafia Win!

 

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Vanilla Townie PM:

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

 
Rules

• During the Day phase, each player may speak and vote inthread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched; the first player to reach the most votes over half-majority will be lynched in the event of a tie.
• You may vote No Lynch.
• After the Day, the game goes to Night.
• The game thread is closed during the Night. The Mafia may speak to each other at Night.
• All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.
• The Mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.
• After the Night, the game goes to Day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game, or nothing can prevent the same.
• Mass role-claiming is allowed.

Game Days will last as many real-life days as there are players alive.
Game Nights will last 48 hours but will include at least one weekday.

Day 2 ends.

 

Imran Ehsan, Vanilla Townie, has been lynched.

 

It is now Night 2.

 

Please send all actions to me by Tuesday, June 14, at 12:00 EDT.

Night 2 ends.

 

The Warrior, Town X-shot Jailkeeper, has been killed in the night.

Ali bin Turban, Vanilla Townie, has been killed in the night.

 

It is now Day 3.

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is Wednesday, June 22, at 12:00 EDT.

Told you we wasted our time, ABT..

Wow. Welp this game is over. I was wrong with Imran and Vig followed Imrans advice and killed off another townie.

Cop needs to rc right now for us to stand a chance. 1 mislynch and it is over

I freaking called it you all were townies... Rhizo is probably town as well and all scum were just hiding in the shadows. Fucks sake.

 

The Vig shouldn't role claim btw, we'll need you next night. But you made a mistake this night by killing TW (I have a feeling who you are as well).

 

I don't have time today unfortunately, but I'll post my thoughts tomorrow. I want to see a reaction from WB, iSoc, Rafay, Canik and Chaplain with their thoughts in the mean time!

King Hitler and Rhizo are still town in my eyes, so you guys can also share your thoughts, but the others are more important.

 

 

@KevinH: Can we also ping iSoc and Whitebeard already, as they haven't posted in a long time.

I don't have time today unfortunately, but I'll post my thoughts tomorrow. I want to see a reaction from WB, iSoc, Rafay, Canik and Chaplain with their thoughts in the mean time!

King Hitler and Rhizo are still town in my eyes, so you guys can also share your thoughts, but the others are more important.

The 2 townies between you need to step up and help us figure things out!

3 townies in one go.. fuck.

 

Guess we just wait for the cop to RC and hope he found something.

I freaking called it you all were townies... Rhizo is probably town as well and all scum were just hiding in the shadows. Fucks sake.

 

The Vig shouldn't role claim btw, we'll need you next night. But you made a mistake this night by killing TW (I have a feeling who you are as well).

 

 

It is fairly obvious who the Vig was. The plan was to do test the waters with an Imran kill. If hes townie, tW was most likely scum (obviously not the case.)

I was leaving hints that the cop was inactive to take pressure off the cop. I was trying to make it semi-obvious I was the Vig. Why? 

 

The goal was to take a scum out last night, whether it be Imran with a lynch. In which case, I would've refrained from a kill and hoped my obvious trial would've led the scum to lynch me (add an X-value, for cop to RC with results - we'd have 2 X left. From the cops claims, we'd figure out who was what and lynch one scum. Jailkeeper would, hypothetically, jail the other scum to prevent a night kill - 1 X left. With this case, we'd be provided the opportunity to be wrong. Cop could do one more investigation - no X left. and bam, we win.

 

The other alternative was Imran was town, tW was scum and I left a trial stating the cop was inactive. After I obviously killed, I'd RC Vig and state the cop was inactive and I had to do something. Pressure is off the cop for 1 more night, he can get one more result. We'd be in a better position.

 

My fucking luck, we get the case I was dreading. We are down 3 townies. There really isn't a way to bounce back from this one in my mind. 

 

Scum has a choice though. They can kill me tomorrow night, leaving the cop alive for one more result.

Or

Cop RCs now, scum have to choose. Kill me, or Cop. 

 

The game definitely depends on what the cop found now. Hopefully it isn't what we already know or he targetted someone dead.

 

(OOC) My bad, town. I feel I cost us this one. (OOC)

I went back and re-read the more recent non wall of text post, and I'm seeing a few trends and red flags IMO, but nothing to go on.

At this point as Rhizo pointed out. Cop needs to claim and we need to move forward from there. If the cop investigated someone we lynched or who had a lot of pressure on them, then imo they failed the town by not at least trying to take pressure off people they knew were town (or putting pressure on the people accusing someone they knew to be town).

 

Even if you only have town results reveal them. If you only investigated people who died we've essentially lost unless we get lucky today somehow

This is why I wanted the Vig to wait, and what's worse is Cop if active there's a decent chance he targeted TW as well. Though I can understand how after Imran showed up town you would think targeting TW wasn't a bad idea. Although Imran made some really suspicious posts, so it's hard to blame anyone for thinking he was scum. In the end I'm more annoyed with Imran than anyone else.

There's a good chance at least one if not both if Cops investigations were on people now dead. If that's so then just stay under cover and hopefully tomorrow we can get something useful. I'd investigate one of the 5 Mandarjin posted: WB, iSoc, Rafay, Canik and Chaplain

Mandarjin & KH I think we can count as town. Mandarjin fought the hardest for peace between Imran/AbT vs Rhizo/TW, scum almost certainly wouldn't do that. Also if KH was scum it wouldn't make much sense to claim Vig and responsibility for TW's death.. it would be far to risky.

Rhizo I'm leaning town on but not as confirmed as the other two.

 

 

 

I went back and re-read the more recent non wall of text post, and I'm seeing a few trends and red flags IMO, but nothing to go on.

Trends and red flags sure seem like they'd be something to go on, even if they're opinionated. The information could still help. How about contributing for the 1st time this game instead of just another vague and useless post?

Also @Kevin can you ping Rafay as well.

 

Vote Count:

iSocialism (0):

King Hitler (0):

Rafay (0):

Whitebeard (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Canik (0):

Chaplain of Death (0):

Mandarijn (0)

 

No lynch (0):

 

Not voting: iSocialism, Chaplain of Death, Rhizoctonia, Canik, King Hitler, Whitebeard, Rafay, Mandarijn,

 

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is Wednesday, June 22, at 12:00 EDT.

 

Inactives have been prodded.

I don't normally want the cop to be exposed for force to come out, but at this point, I think they must, even if they can only provide a single confirmed town at this point.  We're down to our last shot...if we miss, we lose (I am assuming that's correct without running numbers, I remember ABT saying 4 mislynches and we lose).  With now 2 mislynches, and 1 missed Vig hit, we're down to our last one.  Means, this isn't a time to guess and hope for the best, we need as much information as we can get.  Honestly, the scum probably have it narrowed down quite a bit from people's playing style and already down 4 VT's and 1 PR, and now KH has come out as the Vig which narrows it down more.  I don't see the risk paying off to wait and try to do one more if there is information out there to be given.  

 

The town has been our own worst enemy at this point.  I'll take the blame for Imran, as much as he wants to think it was over a grudge and looking to just lynch him, I felt some of his actions/comments led me to believe he was.  Day 2 resulted in the likes of 4 town out to lynch the fellow town and left us with nothing.  3 of the 4 fighting were killed, I was wrong about Imran, ABT/Imran was wrong about TW and Imran's suggestion to Vig killed TW backfired.  I get the reason for doing so, Imran was found to be town, likely TW was scum then.  Rather it not been done, but hindsight is 20/20, and there's no point in relishing in it.  

 

At this point, I would bet at least one of the scum are people not posting or doing anything.  I mean, they didn't have to, we did the work for them day 2.  I imagine at least one scum is someone posting more. In my eyes, the only one's I feel real sure of is myself, Mand, and KH.  I believe KH is likely telling the truth to RC this quickly...I know in the other game he left a few breadcrumbs to suggest he was the cop which scum bit on and lynched him which he wasn't...but I for now am going to take him on his word.  

 

At this point, I have to go after a lurker and has not voted nor posted. 

 

Vote:  Rafay

I don't actually think the cop should come out right now, unless we are going to lynch someone he knows is town. If he comes out and announces only one town, we only get two, the other including himself. With this being in the back of his mind.  This scenario is kind of a quasi- 50 50 chance of hitting scum with a lynch.  If we target someone he doesn't know about, assuming we are going to lynched either way, we would spare him his exposure, and help the town.

 

with 8 alive and 3 scums, town loses with three town deaths and one being the vig.

Except we also have KH as the vig unless the cop investigated him. So if the cop can confirm at least one person as town we would then have over 50% chance of hitting scum. I like the 3/5 odds better than 3/7.

Vote Count:

Rafay (1): Rhizoctonia,

iSocialism (0):

King Hitler (0):

Whitebeard (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Canik (0):

Chaplain of Death (0):

Mandarijn (0)

 

No lynch (0):

 

Not voting: iSocialism, Chaplain of Death, Canik, King Hitler, Whitebeard, Rafay, Mandarijn,

 

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is Wednesday, June 22, at 12:00 EDT.

I went back and re-read the more recent non wall of text post, and I'm seeing a few trends and red flags IMO, but nothing to go on.

Please share what you think please, doesn't matter how little you think it is...

I think I figured it out.

 

On D2 I was already thinking that everyone involved in the big discussion was town, which was also the case. I looked further and tried to convince the rest, but well no one would listen... I was pretty convinced Rafay was/is scum and I still am, he's active and voting on some, but not contributing anything (he didn't have to, because you all were just bickering between eachother). One of the reasons I thought TW wasn't scum was his vote on Canik (Fermion at the time), together with Ali, Imran and Rhizo. So now that they're all town, that means we were right with accusing Fermion of being scum => Canik is the 2nd scum.

Chaplain was the 1st to vote for Fermion, which he wouldn't do if they were both scum. And Canik voted for iSoc on 2 different days, which he also wouldn't do if they were scum. Leaving us with the inactive Whitebeard as the 3rd scum. (who had also voted for iSoc once)

 

Basicly it's Rafay and Canik who are scum and then one of these 3 has to be the other: Chaplain, iSoc and WB. And my educated guess would be WB.

 

 

I say we lynch the only active scum in Canik and try to Vig kill Rafay or WB (if Canik is the doc, kill Rafay. If he isn't you can choose one of the 2). The scums won't be active any more then and we should be able to win quite easily. I do feel sorry for Canik though with his 2 scum friends doing nothing.

Except we also have KH as the vig unless the cop investigated him. So if the cop can confirm at least one person as town we would then have over 50% chance of hitting scum. I like the 3/5 odds better than 3/7.

I didn't know KH roleclaimed.

 

Maybe I didn't explain myself in the best way. We are most likely going to lynch anyways, so we might as well vote for someone, if that person is town or the cop, the cop should come forward and then role claim. There is no need for him to come forward is there is no known risk of lynching a town. So if you think about it in a quasi state,

 

with 8 alive, one being your self, one being  KH (vig?), and one being the cop, and maybe one more being a confirmed town by the cop. that would  leave 4 remaining, and a 75 chance of hitting scum. It's only a 25% chance of us targeting the  cop and if it applies the confirmed town by him.

Personally I wouldn't clear Rhizo outright but I tend to agree with your assessment Mandy. 

 

iSoc I was more going off what we can prove for the town. Each person knows their role, and then we would have 3 confirmed townies. Therefore the 3 confirmed townies would have a 3/5 shot, because all of the scum will say they are vanilla townies too.

All I'm saying is we shouldn't have the cop role claim, because we are most likely going to lynch anyways, his roleclaim won't change the idea to lynch but only the person, maybe. Right now if we were going to lynch, from my POV, I would have 6 to choose from, assuming KH is the vig and myself as town. Though if the cop RC with one person confirmed this would narrow it down to 4 to pick from, and a 3/4 chance of hitting scum. Which I would agree, that that is a very good chance of hitting scum. But a RC isn't needed to get that chance. We lynch, and if the person we pick. 1/4 chance, is the cop or the person who he can confirmed as town, then he should roleclaim. It's a safety net Pretty much the first option would give a 3/4 chance of hitting scum and a 1/1 chance of scum knowing who the cop is. The second we have a 1/4 or 2/8 chance of hitting the cop or the person, which would leave us with a 3/4 chance of not taking out a town member.

 

Anyone pushing for a RC by the cop is on my suspect list.

It really depends on exactly the cop has to offer us.  If he has 2 results, be it 2 confirmed townie, 1 confirmed townie 1 scum, or 2 confirmed scums, it would be very wise of him to RC right now and not spend the whole day like yesterday arguing over someone he can confirm is town or confirm is scum.  It's pretty counter productive for the cop to wait till a lynch is near to then roleclaim if he is the one looking to be lynched, or a confirmed town is about to and he doesn't say til near the end and then we are left with little time to change the vote and lynch someone else with not much time to discuss.  It really all depends on what he has, but having something more then we have, where at least he can confirm is town and if he can confirm another, that's two less people to take out of the equation, maybe 3 if both people he investigated are alive still.  If he has nothing to add because all the people he investigated are dead, then I agree, there's no point.

 

But simply point, a cop risking doing another action tonight is not worth him not revealing information he can if he get's lynched (again, depends on how much he has to give).

 

After N1 - Scum have narrowed it down to 7/10 possible cops (Obviously didn't find him N1 or he would of been lynched last night)

After N2 - They have it narrowed down to as much as 2, that is if they didn't find him last night with their rolecop.  (1 Misylnch, 1 Vig Kill, 1 scum kill, 1 scum Rolecop, + 1 KH's RC)

 

That's not including the fact they maybe have gotten reads off people that would narrow it down.  Say for example, me.  If they didn't do any actions on me, they already know I'm likely not the cop as I've already stated the cop should likely RC so I would have already if it was me.  There are way too many variables to know exactly how close the scum are to finding the cop, as like I said, they may already know if they found him last night with the RC, and if not, still could have as good as 50% hitting the cop tonight.  Risking not giving the information he has if he does have anything substantial is stupid to maybe get 1 more night action tonight with a higher then ever chance of getting lynched tonight.  It would be different if the Vig didn't kill off an additional person and then RC....that alone checked possibly 2 more additional people the scum don't have to worry about killing if they are looking to target the cop.

 

You say pushing for a RC of a cop is suspicious, I say looking to keep the cop quiet today in hopes he is lynched tonight is as suspicious.  The odds have never been higher that the cop gets killed tonight, 100% if they found him with rolecop action last night.  Say neither the cop nor his confirmed townie is in any threat today of being lynched....great, the cop doesn't reveal.  The cop is then killed tonight, he doesn't get a 3rd night action to report, and we now do not know who the confirmed townie is.  We're on our last shot, we don't get to miss from this point forward.  The cards should be on the table at this point.  Advocating a cop risk getting killed at night (high odds)  for 1 more night while holding onto information we may never get is horrible idea.  

I think I figured it out.

 

On D2 I was already thinking that everyone involved in the big discussion was town, which was also the case. I looked further and tried to convince the rest, but well no one would listen... I was pretty convinced Rafay was/is scum and I still am, he's active and voting on some, but not contributing anything (he didn't have to, because you all were just bickering between eachother). One of the reasons I thought TW wasn't scum was his vote on Canik (Fermion at the time), together with Ali, Imran and Rhizo. So now that they're all town, that means we were right with accusing Fermion of being scum => Canik is the 2nd scum.

Chaplain was the 1st to vote for Fermion, which he wouldn't do if they were both scum. And Canik voted for iSoc on 2 different days, which he also wouldn't do if they were scum. Leaving us with the inactive Whitebeard as the 3rd scum. (who had also voted for iSoc once)

 

Basicly it's Rafay and Canik who are scum and then one of these 3 has to be the other: Chaplain, iSoc and WB. And my educated guess would be WB.

 

 

I say we lynch the only active scum in Canik and try to Vig kill Rafay or WB (if Canik is the doc, kill Rafay. If he isn't you can choose one of the 2). The scums won't be active any more then and we should be able to win quite easily. I do feel sorry for Canik though with his 2 scum friends doing nothing.

 

 

I like your feeling however I disagree on one point.  

 

Chaplain was the 1st to vote for Fermion, which he wouldn't do if they were both scum. And Canik voted for iSoc on 2 different days, which he also wouldn't do if they were scum. Leaving us with the inactive Whitebeard as the 3rd scum. (who had also voted for iSoc once)

 

I don't think that excludes Chaplain or Isocialism.  Neither of those votes were at a time that any were at risk...and it's not really something new for a scum to vote a fellow scum early on to separate themselves or distance themselves.  Not including the fact, CoD took his vote off Fermion right after Fermion started to gain steam, as both Imran and ABT followed COD on the vote on Fermion, and once ABT did, he retracted his vote with reason

 

My vote was more activity prodding than because i suspect him being scum this early. 

 

unvote

There was suspicion though. And ill likely still vote that way if that's what we decide to do.

(Ooc: so much going on lately, losing track of what's going on with these long day phases lol)

 

 

Which is odd, as even he states there is suspicion and he'd likely go that way if we decide to.  The vote was already going that way and he took it off suddenly when it was gaining ground, and then later switched to Robert (a town) and was part of that vote that got him killed.  

 

Canik voting Isocialism a few times doesn't mean anything when Isocialism was never at risk of actually being lynched.  Not like he put him in any harms way

 

You rest of the thought's I agree for most part, but I'm not sold on who the 3rd is yet. I called Canik/WB from the get go, but no one wanted to listen either, and I imagine 1 of the 3 scums are someone who has been sitting back at least (Rafay or Isocialism).  Isocialism/COD/WB all have little things that make them a bit suspicious, though not sold on who the 3rd is.

 

Isocialism - Hasn't helped much at all through 2 days.  Doesn't post, doesn't really vote, now suddenly comes out of the woodwork

WB - Suspicious of him early on, and hasn't done or said much to make me feel any less. Hasn't done anything to really change my mind, but also know he's new to the game so likely not as well finding clues.  

CoD - Has had some townie points IMO early on.  But been relatively quiet then in past games (maybe RL not sure), and his sudden change off Fermion when he even admitted he was suspicious of once Fermion vote was gaining steam is odd to me.  He was also a part of the kill of Robert as well, and didn't vote last day which gives us nothing to go on there.

 

Have to spend some time to look at these 3's posts when I have more time.  

Yeah there's no reason to wait any longer. For better or worse its time to put everything on the table. Cop probably won't get another day. And if we mislynch here then we don't get another day. Nobodies arguing against lynching, but we need to make as informed a decision as we can.

 

vote iSoc

 

Being against the town having more information at this stage is scummy as hell.

To explain myself as far as the fermion vote. I was quite busy at the time and had actually completely lost sight of the fact there was a reason i voted for him. Not a great explanation, so take it or leave it. When i saw the wagon and couldn't remember why ferm was suspicious i pulled my vote before looking back at the previous pages and seeing why i had placed it (at which point i posted again saying he was suspicious but it combined the 2 posts into 1)

Vote Count:

Rafay (1): Rhizoctonia,
iSocialism (1): Chaplain of Death,
King Hitler (0):
Whitebeard (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):
Canik (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
Mandarijn (0)

No lynch (0):

Not voting: iSocialism, Canik, King Hitler, Whitebeard, Rafay, Mandarijn,

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, June 22, at 12:00 EDT.