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[KevinH]

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This setup was designed for the Open Setup Design Contest 2015.
 
Roles

• 1 Mafia Y-shot Rolecop
• 1 Mafia Y-shot Doctor
• 1 Mafia Y-shot Framer

• 1 Town X-shot Cop
• 1 Town X-shot Jailkeeper
• 1 Town X-shot Vigilante
• 7 VTs

Mechanics

• Daystart
• "X" starts as 4, and decreases with each shot spent by one of the power roles.
• "Y" starts as 4, and decreases with each shot spent by one of the power roles.
• If X or Y goes below 0 in one night, all actions by that team will fail and no shots will be spent.
• Every time a Town Power Role dies, X increases by 1.
• Every time a Mafia Member dies, Y increases by 1.

 

• Ali bin Turban Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2
• Chaplain of Death, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 4
• Fermion Canik, Mafia Y-Shot Framer, lynched Day 3
• Imran Ehsan, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 2
• iSocialism, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 5
• King Hitler, Town X-Shot Vigilante, killed in the end-game
• Lyner, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1
• Mandarijn, Town X-Shot Cop, killed Night 3
• Rafay, Mafia Y-Shot Role Cop, lynched Day 4
• Rhizoctonia, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 4
• Robert2424, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 1
• The Warrior, Town X-Shot Jailkeeper, killed Night 2
• Whitebeard, Mafia Y-Shot Doctor, survives to the end

Mafia Win!

 

 
Vanilla Townie PM:

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

 
Rules

• During the Day phase, each player may speak and vote inthread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched; the first player to reach the most votes over half-majority will be lynched in the event of a tie.
• You may vote No Lynch.
• After the Day, the game goes to Night.
• The game thread is closed during the Night. The Mafia may speak to each other at Night.
• All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.
• The Mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.
• After the Night, the game goes to Day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game, or nothing can prevent the same.
• Mass role-claiming is allowed.

Game Days will last as many real-life days as there are players alive.
Game Nights will last 48 hours but will include at least one weekday.

[KevinH]

All role PMs have been sent.

I will inform the town power roles the value of X after each night.

Vote Count:

Ali bin Turban (0)
Chaplain of death (0)
Fermion (0)
Imran Ehsan (0)
iSocialism (0)
King Hitler (0)
Lyner (0)
Mandarijn (0)
Rafay (0)
Rhizoctonia (0)
Robert2424 (0)
The Warrior (0)
Whitebeard (0)

No lynch (0)

 

Not voting: Ali bin Turban, Chaplain of death, Fermion, Imran Ehsan, iSocialism, King Hitler, Lyner, Mandarijn, Rafay, Rhizoctonia, Robert2424, The Warrior, Whitebeard

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Sunday, May 29 at 21:00 EDT

[Ali bin Turban]

I know it's a first day, but lets not waste it on luling. As I've declared in previous game my vote is on Rafay. I'll post reasoning right away .

 

vote Rafay

[Chaplain of death]

Vote Rhizo

 

Hi everyone. 

 

reasons: I haven't seen him have a town role yet. 

[Ali bin Turban]

Why Rafay in a simple words. His playstyle is to act like a scum so that he has a free ride when he's one. Unfortunately that also means he's liability to the town in every scenario because you can never trust him or anything he says.

[Ali bin Turban]

And few numbers so we can actually understand what we're against:

 

- 4 misslynches and the game is lost

- 3 misslynches and one missed Vigilante shot and the game is lost

- There's 19% chance for the mafia to find a cop tonight (by finding I mean 2 tries, one with the kill second with the rolecop search).

- There's 57% chance for the mafia to find a random power role townie tonight.

 

So let's not be over reliant on our power roles.

[Mandarijn]

Why Rafay in a simple words. His playstyle is to act like a scum so that he has a free ride when he's one. Unfortunately that also means he's liability to the town in every scenario because you can never trust him or anything he says.

Very true actually...

 

I actually want to discuss some kind of game plan for the town here. Should we let the cop use the 1st 2-3 night actions? He can't come out with his results early I think, BUT if he happens to get killed before he reveals his results, we're screwed... That Framer and Mafia Role Cop (who might also get the 1st 2-3 night actions from the Mafia) might be a game breaker as well. Or how do we want to play this? We have only 3 PR and potentially 6 night actions, where the cop is the most important one. I have no idea if/when it's or will be smart to use the other 2 roles?

 

I really have no clue how hard it'll be to win this game as the town and how different it'll be from the normal games.

[Ali bin Turban]

Assuming we won't lynch anyone:

- Mafia has 19% chance to find cop during first night, 38% by second night and 57% by third.

- Cop has 23% to find a scum during first night, 42% to find one by second night and 58% by third night - that's just finding single scum. Finding two is practically impossible, with 5% chance and three 1% (talking about 3 nights time span)

 

So it's safe to assume our brave defender will die before finding every scum and that we'll need to get our hands dirty.

[Rhizoctonia]

On phone, but I can make it quick.

Me and Imran seem to always be arguing against one another, so I want to make sure we start out on the same page as one another. I know Imran always pushes for a lynch on D1, so I want to make sure he gets what he wants.

Vote: Imran

Also, if anyone presents evidence someone is Vanilla I automatically will vote for the person who came up vanilla. I don't care what the mod says the roles are or possible roles are, I know more then him and there can't be a single Vanilla Town. That is all

[Rhizoctonia]

Also King Hitler and Whitebeard are looking and not posting...tall tale sign of scum.

FOS - King Hitler, Whitebeard

[Ali bin Turban]

Rhizo there's no jester in this game. Why you're trying to get yourself lynched?

[Rhizoctonia]

ABT why are you not jumping on my witch hunt? We all know I am right and unless you go along with it, you're certainly not helping the town out. Why should we care about someone not helping out the town? You seem suspicious. You're only voting for Rafay because he voted for you (hidden vote), and aren't presenting anything new or proving your loyalty.

ABT added to FOS.


Man I love rain days at my job

[The Warrior]

 

I actually want to discuss some kind of game plan for the town here. Should we let the cop use the 1st 2-3 night actions? He can't come out with his results early I think, BUT if he happens to get killed before he reveals his results, we're screwed... That Framer and Mafia Role Cop (who might also get the 1st 2-3 night actions from the Mafia) might be a game breaker as well. Or how do we want to play this? We have only 3 PR and potentially 6 night actions, where the cop is the most important one. I have no idea if/when it's or will be smart to use the other 2 roles?

I like this overall strategy. The Cop is our most beneficial role in the early going. If he can even identify one person as scum we will be in much better shape early on. At that point we can look for a lynch or our Vigilante can put him down leaving only two scums. Of course the issue there is how the Cop should go about revealing what he knows, especially if he happens to find scum. We cannot afford for the Cop to get lynched or killed at night before he can reveal what he knows.

 

Having said that we also need to remember that the mafia has a Framer. The Framer can frame someone at night to make them investigate as guilty. This means that we should not take any guilty investigation as the end all be all. We will want to monitor posting habits, activity, etc and take all things into account before actually voting to lynch someone.

 

I think that it's reasonably fair to assume though that the mafia's Rolecop is their most likely to be used action in the early going for similar reasons as our Cop using his action. While the mafia will definitely take any easy lynch or kill of a townie that they can, they will want to identify the town power roles pretty quickly. So the scum wasting one of their actions by using the Framer early on is unlikely since the Framer is only really beneficial if the Cop happens to investigate the same person that night. The odds of that occurring increase each day that the Framer and Cop survive.

 

Also:

Vote: Whitebeard

 

Welcome to mafia.

[Chaplain of death]

Cant tell if dripping with sarcasm or legitimately butt hurt. Leave that game in its own thread.

Early votes are literally for no reason, don't take it seriously until someone makes an argument or someone wagons

[The Warrior]

Mass role-claiming is allowed.

 

Also, I just re-read the rules and discovered this.

[Rhizoctonia]

Cant tell if dripping with sarcasm or legitimately butt hurt. Leave that game in its own thread.

Early votes are literally for no reason, don't take it seriously until someone makes an argument or someone wagons

 

 

I'm sorry you cannot read my sarcasm.  I will make sure to put a smiley face after every sarcastic post so you know.  I kinda assumed it was pretty obvious. Lighten up a little bit, it's D1, I'm allowed to have some fun. 

 

Obligatory FOS vote for COD.  Tells me to leave another game to it's own thread, but votes me based off another game. Before I forget   

[Chaplain of death]

And yet, if power roles claim then they will get targetted. I suppose with the jailer we can try to dodge kills so long as he doesn't claim. Bit risky though.

Cant tell if dripping with sarcasm or legitimately butt hurt. Leave that game in its own thread.
Early votes are literally for no reason, don't take it seriously until someone makes an argument or someone wagons

 
 
I'm sorry you cannot read my sarcasm.  I will make sure to put a smiley face after every sarcastic post so you know.  I kinda assumed it was pretty obvious. Lighten up a little bit, it's D1, I'm allowed to have some fun. 
 
Obligatory FOS vote for COD.  Tells me to leave another game to it's own thread, but votes me based off another game. Before I forget   

Its text. Sarcasm and intent is much more difficult to read.

Getting a read on play style from past games is normal. Just don't hold grudges from other games lol.

Mass role-claiming is allowed.

 
Also, I just re-read the rules and discovered this.

Hear that Rhizo? Its okay for you to claim your scum role! =)

[Rhizoctonia]

And yet, if power roles claim then they will get targetted. I suppose with the jailer we can try to dodge kills so long as he doesn't claim. Bit risky though.

 

Cant tell if dripping with sarcasm or legitimately butt hurt. Leave that game in its own thread.
Early votes are literally for no reason, don't take it seriously until someone makes an argument or someone wagons
 

 
 
I'm sorry you cannot read my sarcasm.  I will make sure to put a smiley face after every sarcastic post so you know.  I kinda assumed it was pretty obvious. Lighten up a little bit, it's D1, I'm allowed to have some fun. 
 
Obligatory FOS vote for COD.  Tells me to leave another game to it's own thread, but votes me based off another game. Before I forget   

Its text. Sarcasm and intent is much more difficult to read.

Getting a read on play style from past games is normal. Just don't hold grudges from other games lol.

 

Mass role-claiming is allowed.

 
Also, I just re-read the rules and discovered this.

Hear that Rhizo? Its okay for you to claim your scum role! =)

 

 

 

I understand, I tried to make them as obvious as I could that I was just poking some fun at past suspicion claims/etc.  I figured my reply to ABT about "Rafay's hidden vote" would be a big detector.  No worries mate...you have to do more then suspect or kill me off in a mafia game to cause me to hold a grudge for something.  Now you insult the name Rhizoctonia, it's on!  

I don't want to claim my scum role so quickly, want people to at least work hard/put effort to get me lynched.  

[Chaplain of death]

Haha, tbh i skimmed past the Rafay comments cause I'm on my phone and i already know the argument.

Anyway.

unvote
Vote Whitebeard

Welcome to Mafia =)

[Ali bin Turban]

 

Mass role-claiming is allowed.

 

Also, I just re-read the rules and discovered this.

 

It's here because mass claiming wont help you with anything at least for now (in such case we'd have 10 VT roles claimed ). Maybe later on in some special cases we could take advantage out of it but don't expect to much.

 

As for mafia roles, framer sounds cool but It's very situational. All it takes to avoid framing is cop not making obvious checks. I'm pretty sure mafia knows that and will spend most if not all of their points on their role cop.

Same goes for our jailkeeper. It's most likely here just to introduce a little gambling factor for the mafia in case cop makes role claim. Will jailkeeper protect the cop or not? Shall scum go for a cop risking no kill or will they get a 100% sure kill on anyone else? Doctor is probably just to deter public setting of Vigilante targets.