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Why Trump will SMASH Hilary

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I've been watching this guys videos for a while now and he has helped me changed my mind set in alot of things.

 

But listen to what he believes Trump's strategy has been and the impact it has had.

 

I personally wouldn't vote for Trump if I were American, but if you break down and analyse his charisma, it is just something else (in a good way)

 

The video basically breaks Trumps strategy into these steps:

  1. Get Attention - did this with the whole controversial Mexican & Muslim speeches
  2. Win one audience at a time - Republicans
  3. Remove threats one at a time
  4. Define the terms of engagement
  5. Be flexible

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LibRNYJmZ-I

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For one, I do believe Trump understands the media (especially the US media) on a fundamental level. Hell, he's certainly better than the media experts of his opponents.

 

Second, he maximally took advantage of the fact that his opponents (quite stupidly)underestimated him. Actually, I think it's a tactic on his part to play the role of buffoon and play on this. I'mretty sure he still has tricks up his sleeve.

 

And third...it's either him or Hillary Clinton, ugh.

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For one, I do believe Trump understands the media (especially the US media) on a fundamental level. Hell, he's certainly better than the media experts of his opponents.

 

Second, he maximally took advantage of the fact that his opponents (quite stupidly)underestimated him. Actually, I think it's a tactic on his part to play the role of buffoon and play on this. I'mretty sure he still has tricks up his sleeve.

 

And third...it's either him or Hillary Clinton, ugh.

no bernie? :(

Bernie is unfortunately done for...

 

Just one final thought on HRC: It was her foreign policy that left the ME in a state that it is in now. Considering this fact, maybe the rest of the world would be luckier if she weren't to become president...

 

Good will always defeat evil, but what if it is two evils fighting each other?

evil + evil = bush.

 

 

Bush wasn't evil. He did some stupid stuff but no US president had to deal with anything like he had to. 

Trump is dismantling people one by one, then he recruits them to work for him. Impressive if you ask me. I wanted Ben Carson, and was fairly against Trump at first. I think I've warmed up to the idea.

I've been watching this guys videos for a while now and he has helped me changed my mind set in alot of things.

 

But listen to what he believes Trump's strategy has been and the impact it has had.

 

I personally wouldn't vote for Trump if I were American, but if you break down and analyse his charisma, it is just something else (in a good way)

 

The video basically breaks Trumps strategy into these steps:

  1. Get Attention - did this with the whole controversial Mexican & Muslim speeches
  2. Win one audience at a time - Republicans
  3. Remove threats one at a time
  4. Define the terms of engagement
  5. Be flexible

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LibRNYJmZ-I

You jacked this from my OWF comment, didn't you? :V

 

 

Good will always defeat evil, but what if it is two evils fighting each other?

evil + evil = bush.

 

 

Bush wasn't evil. He did some stupid stuff but no US president had to deal with anything like he had to. 

 

You mean like invading/bombing countries for no reason? Nah. Plenty have done that.

 

 

Trump is dismantling people one by one, then he recruits them to work for him. Impressive if you ask me. I wanted Ben Carson, and was fairly against Trump at first. I think I've warmed up to the idea.

I think Petro Poroshenko should hire Trump to govern some shit province in Ukraine. I mean, he's all about hiring the most retarded, racist and polarizing foreign rich boys he can find to govern his country. Then Ukraine can deal with Trump and Trump can pretend like he's popular. 

 

 

You mean like invading/bombing countries for no reason? Nah. Plenty have done that.
 

 

No I meant the largest terrorist attack on the US, ever. But hey ignoring pieces of history to over vilify someone is always smart.

 

You mean like invading/bombing countries for no reason? Nah. Plenty have done that.
 

 

No I meant the largest terrorist attack on the US, ever. But hey ignoring pieces of history to over vilify someone is always smart.

 

While I agree that would be a terribly difficult thing to handle, he went about handling it in a completely backwards way. AQ laid out their strategy for our government and then our response was to play exactly into their strategy and more. I guarantee you that Bin Laden was celebrating when we invaded Afghanistan and partying like no other when we invaded Iraq. In fact I think our invasion of Iraq just blew his and everyone else's minds. 

And in case you haven't noticed, the entire plan with 9/11 was to:

  1. Provoke an over-reaction. Check.
  2. Bog down the US in a war that will never end. Check.
  3. Drive the US into crushing debt. Check.

I mean it probably wouldn't be so bad if we didn't literally play into their hands with literally every god damn thing we did. Especially when said strategy was no secret.

 

 

You mean like invading/bombing countries for no reason? Nah. Plenty have done that.
 

 

No I meant the largest terrorist attack on the US, ever. But hey ignoring pieces of history to over vilify someone is always smart.

 

While I agree that would be a terribly difficult thing to handle, he went about handling it in a completely backwards way. AQ laid out their strategy for our government and then our response was to play exactly into their strategy and more. I guarantee you that Bin Laden was celebrating when we invaded Afghanistan and partying like no other when we invaded Iraq. In fact I think our invasion of Iraq just blew his and everyone else's minds. 

And in case you haven't noticed, the entire plan with 9/11 was to:

  1. Provoke an over-reaction. Check.
  2. Bog down the US in a war that will never end. Check.
  3. Drive the US into crushing debt. Check.

I mean it probably wouldn't be so bad if we didn't literally play into their hands with literally every god damn thing we did. Especially when said strategy was no secret.

 

 

Over-reaction? Of course but everyone was wanting it. Congress, the House of representatives and even the public. You cannot honestly blame that on one man, especially when no one spoke against the action until we were way too back. The fact that we reelected him after is proof of that. Now I am not justifying his presidency especially with how much I hate "no child left behind" and the "patriot act" but there were no innocent parties in government back then, and a good bit of them still hold office.

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I've been watching this guys videos for a while now and he has helped me changed my mind set in alot of things.

 

But listen to what he believes Trump's strategy has been and the impact it has had.

 

I personally wouldn't vote for Trump if I were American, but if you break down and analyse his charisma, it is just something else (in a good way)

 

The video basically breaks Trumps strategy into these steps:

  1. Get Attention - did this with the whole controversial Mexican & Muslim speeches
  2. Win one audience at a time - Republicans
  3. Remove threats one at a time
  4. Define the terms of engagement
  5. Be flexible

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LibRNYJmZ-I

You jacked this from my OWF comment, didn't you? :V

 

The only thing I go to the OWF for is monthly Moon base coordinates.

 

I'm a long time subscriber to that youtuber's channel.

 

Also I know too little in US politics to be in threads like that, I just enjoy intelligent mindsets

 

 

 

You mean like invading/bombing countries for no reason? Nah. Plenty have done that.
 

 

No I meant the largest terrorist attack on the US, ever. But hey ignoring pieces of history to over vilify someone is always smart.

 

While I agree that would be a terribly difficult thing to handle, he went about handling it in a completely backwards way. AQ laid out their strategy for our government and then our response was to play exactly into their strategy and more. I guarantee you that Bin Laden was celebrating when we invaded Afghanistan and partying like no other when we invaded Iraq. In fact I think our invasion of Iraq just blew his and everyone else's minds. 

And in case you haven't noticed, the entire plan with 9/11 was to:

  1. Provoke an over-reaction. Check.
  2. Bog down the US in a war that will never end. Check.
  3. Drive the US into crushing debt. Check.

I mean it probably wouldn't be so bad if we didn't literally play into their hands with literally every god damn thing we did. Especially when said strategy was no secret.

 

 

Over-reaction? Of course but everyone was wanting it. Congress, the House of representatives and even the public. You cannot honestly blame that on one man, especially when no one spoke against the action until we were way too back. The fact that we reelected him after is proof of that. Now I am not justifying his presidency especially with how much I hate "no child left behind" and the "patriot act" but there were no innocent parties in government back then, and a good bit of them still hold office.

 

Fair enough. I suppose that's also why Trump will be elected. :P

Thankfully, Americans seem to put more thought into invading nations after Iraq. Well sorta.

The Afghanistan invasion was fine, it was the following nation building that was completely mishandled. This is not to say there weren't screwups in that phase too (Tora Bora). Everything that followed from Iraq to the Arab spring is a damn mess, and the US should have never touched any of it.

 

The drone program though... It's nasty but effective, abd in the end, that's what really matters.

 

The drone program though... It's nasty but effective, abd in the end, that's what really matters.
 

 

To what end though? Bombing of a hospital, and countless on countries we aren't at war with. 

 

The difference is we want no civilian causalities, we never bombed with the intent to only harm civilians. Civilans get hurt, but they get hurt more when evil is allow to hide over borders. As soon as the war ends and the enemy is stopped, the bombing stops. The enemy on the other will always bomb, because their target is not a military force. It's a population, in which they went to destroy or control. Countries that hide these guys, are only supporting them. Shelter and a safe zone to restock and organize is a lot deadlier than a attack it's self.

 

 

 

 

The drone program though... It's nasty but effective, abd in the end, that's what really matters.

 

 

To what end though? Bombing of a hospital, and countless on countries we aren't at war with. 

 

 

The difference is we want no civilian causalities, we never bombed with the intent to only harm civilians. Civilans get hurt, but they get hurt more when evil is allow to hide over borders. As soon as the war ends and the enemy is stopped, the bombing stops. The enemy on the other will always bomb, because their target is not a military force. It's a population, in which they went to destroy or control. Countries that hide these guys, are only supporting them. Shelter and a safe zone to restock and organize is a lot deadlier than a attack it's self.

Exactly. Not to mention these people often intentionally use civilians as a shield to protect themselves. Despite that, the US has done a remarkable job in minimizing civilian casualties and collateral damage since the '90s.

There are always casualties in war, and this is a war. Nevertheless civilian casualties in military operations have drasically fallen, even since the 90s due to evolving technology and a serious effort to reduce them.

 

This also explains the difference between civilians killed by the US and those killed by the terrorists. The US wants to minimize collateral damage while taking out high priority targets, while the terrorists go specifically for soft targets and seek to kill or harm as many as possible.

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