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[Samus]

Also Finster baby is lower on my scum radar now, since King Hitler seems to be more visibly against him

[Wolfpacks]

The reason I've said nothing on Legoboy is because he called me for voting for Finster as the scummiest thing he's seen, didn't want to be called for another revenge vote

Oh my view on him is he's like a Facebook troll he comes in and makes a comments then sits back and waits for it to unfold, once the fallout has happened then he makes another comment and sits back again

[SeaBeeGipson]

Also Finster baby is lower on my scum radar now, since King Hitler seems to be more visibly against him

I find it interesting this is your logic. Does that also mean anyone I view is townie would be on your scum radar? Seems counterproductive to base your entire list on one person's perspective that isn't your own.

I also like how you tried to get a wagon going on me solely on the basis of my "Samus is alive on D2." Comments. Once you failed, you jumped on lego pretty quickly. Maybe because you see better odds at a wagon there?

FoS: Samus.

I was thinking you came out very active and content on hunting scum. Despite being your #1 suspect, I was happy to see you participate and honestly, expected more from you than what I've been seeing so far. as you keep posting it keeps looking as if you are just trying to hop around and find the easiest target. As far as my views on lego, they haventu changed much. His behavior D1 when SM joke voted for him came off pretty bad at the very start, but it's his first game. We all made noob mistakes. I'm on the fence with him as to whether these are noob mistakes or the actual acts of a scum. His silence to multiple people suspecting him isn't helping his case.

[Samus]

Once you failed, you jumped on lego pretty quickly. Maybe because you see better odds at a wagon there?

Oh no no, dear death eater, my wagon hasn't failed, i'm simply prioritizing who needs to go first, since you and your scum buddies want to pick out defenseless townies to lynch.

 

I'll come back to you don't worry, but no doubt you and your scum buddies will want me out by tonight. 

 

And I never jumped on lego, I have stated it from the START, that lego was #1 on my list, go read back on my posts

[Ali bin Turban]

KH, I don't think diagnosis of Finster's behavior is that simple. He's a possible scum, but let's not fall into a trap of interpreting everything he does as scummy (I know something about it).

I guess it's a bit scummy for Finster to wait with the vote for the last moment and not being forced to explain himself when asked...but on the other hand he could be just waiting for as much information as possible before making decision because he's afraid to make mistake (and he can surely show his reasoning while placing a vote). Obviously this may also be a smoke screen and he's not going to vote at all (explaining that he planned to do it on the last minute but then forgot)...but still, it's not easy to tell why did Finster say that. 

 

Also, Samus - now you're overusing my comments.True, I said he's my suspect and I actually won't hesitate much if/when we get more scum indications of him, but I'd really like for that "IF/WHEN" to happen first. That's because I've also said I'm not comfortable with voting on someone basing just on his joke vote (though if you just mean to press him for now, then I surely approve).

[Samus]

His silence to multiple people suspecting him isn't helping his case.

 

and a better candidate to lynch is someone who hasn't said anything at all? logic?

[Ali bin Turban]

 

Also Finster baby is lower on my scum radar now, since King Hitler seems to be more visibly against him

I find it interesting this is your logic. Does that also mean anyone I view is townie would be on your scum radar? Seems counterproductive to base your entire list on one person's perspective that isn't your own.

I also like how you tried to get a wagon going on me solely on the basis of my "Samus is alive on D2." Comments. Once you failed, you jumped on lego pretty quickly. Maybe because you see better odds at a wagon there?

FoS: Samus.

I was thinking you came out very active and content on hunting scum. Despite being your #1 suspect, I was happy to see you participate and honestly, expected more from you than what I've been seeing so far. as you keep posting it keeps looking as if you are just trying to hop around and find the easiest target. As far as my views on lego, they haventu changed much. His behavior D1 when SM joke voted for him came off pretty bad at the very start, but it's his first game. We all made noob mistakes. I'm on the fence with him as to whether these are noob mistakes or the actual acts of a scum. His silence to multiple people suspecting him isn't helping his case.

 

Actually there were plenty of other targets so if he were looking for the easiest, you wouldn't be the one. I think you both need to take a step back and think more about your quarrel. If you have something more against each other than some joke comments then share it so we can look at it too. If not, then it's just a distraction.

[SeaBeeGipson]

Once you failed, you jumped on lego pretty quickly. Maybe because you see better odds at a wagon there?

Oh no no, dear death eater, my wagon hasn't failed, i'm simply prioritizing who needs to go first, since you and your scum buddies want to pick out defenseless townies to lynch.
 
I'll come back to you don't worry, but no doubt you and your scum buddies will want me out by tonight. 
 
And I never jumped on lego, I have stated it from the START, that lego was #1 on my list, go read back on my posts

Lego hasn't even posted since your initial post. If you were truly prioritizing as you said and he was truly your #1 you would've voted for him from the start. I'm curious as to the genuine reason for your switch. In my mind, it looks like you are the one going after defenseless "townies". Quotes because lego has yet to prove either way. My vote towards Finister is a defenseless townie? He actually has been replying and can offer a rebuttal. I explained my reasoning for Rafay. You switched votes before Lego could even offer any response. Strangely, you change votes after I offer my response.

[Finster Baby]

KH, I don't think diagnosis of Finster's behavior is that simple. He's a possible scum, but let's not fall into a trap of interpreting everything he does as scummy (I know something about it).
I guess it's a bit scummy for Finster to wait with the vote for the last moment and not being forced to explain himself when asked...but on the other hand he could be just waiting for as much information as possible before making decision because he's afraid to make mistake (and he can surely show his reasoning while placing a vote). Obviously this may also be a smoke screen and he's not going to vote at all (explaining that he planned to do it on the last minute but then forgot)...but still, it's not easy to tell why did Finster say that. 
 
Also, Samus - now you're overusing my comments.True, I said he's my suspect and I actually won't hesitate much if/when we get more scum indications of him, but I'd really like for that "IF/WHEN" to happen first. That's because I've also said I'm not comfortable with voting on someone basing just on his joke vote (though if you just mean to press him for now, then I surely approve).

I appreciate the benefit of the doubt here Ali. I was waiting for more information here, and you guys have actually given it to me.

Someone asked my opinion about lego. After reading what Ali and Samus said about him, I went back and looked at his posts. I do see a pattern of "looking for someone to follow." Yeah he's new, but I played as a new scum last game and I can see the same thing I did in what he's doing now.

KH: When I'm conflicted on what to do, as I am here, I wait until such time that I have enough to make sense. And based on what I read and info from overnight.

VOTE: legoboy.

Yep, that's a bandwagon. But since I have no real other info to go on other than experienced players suspicions, that's what I'm going on.

Now I'm off to find Oliver Wood and see how the Quiddich team is coming along. (Translation, on holiday till Tuesday.)

[Samus]

 

 

Also Finster baby is lower on my scum radar now, since King Hitler seems to be more visibly against him

I find it interesting this is your logic. Does that also mean anyone I view is townie would be on your scum radar? Seems counterproductive to base your entire list on one person's perspective that isn't your own.

I also like how you tried to get a wagon going on me solely on the basis of my "Samus is alive on D2." Comments. Once you failed, you jumped on lego pretty quickly. Maybe because you see better odds at a wagon there?

FoS: Samus.

I was thinking you came out very active and content on hunting scum. Despite being your #1 suspect, I was happy to see you participate and honestly, expected more from you than what I've been seeing so far. as you keep posting it keeps looking as if you are just trying to hop around and find the easiest target. As far as my views on lego, they haventu changed much. His behavior D1 when SM joke voted for him came off pretty bad at the very start, but it's his first game. We all made noob mistakes. I'm on the fence with him as to whether these are noob mistakes or the actual acts of a scum. His silence to multiple people suspecting him isn't helping his case.

 

Actually there were plenty of other targets so if he were looking for the easiest, you wouldn't be the one. I think you both need to take a step back and think more about your quarrel. If you have something more against each other than some joke comments then share it so we can look at it too. If not, then it's just a distraction.

 

 

When I decided I was going to join this game, I had a strong feeling I would make N1, if I kept quiet on D1, tried not to start pointing fingers or start any meaningful discussion and also my believe is my ragequit thread kinda attributed to this in a weird type of way, it's an assumption, but I genuinely believe it did.

 

But I also knew people would start to point it out as a 'joke'. Cool, no problem there. 2 highest on my scum list is lego & King Hitler, because everyone who did point it out as a 'joke', made the joke once and moved on. Lego & KH repeated this 'joke' multiple times, a repeated joke isn't funny to me and imo from a psychological pov, it has other connotations to it. And again as i've stated, scum knew I was going to be alive D2, now they want to come publicly and act as if they're shocked, I don't buy it.

 

 

 

Once you failed, you jumped on lego pretty quickly. Maybe because you see better odds at a wagon there?

Oh no no, dear death eater, my wagon hasn't failed, i'm simply prioritizing who needs to go first, since you and your scum buddies want to pick out defenseless townies to lynch.
 
I'll come back to you don't worry, but no doubt you and your scum buddies will want me out by tonight. 
 
And I never jumped on lego, I have stated it from the START, that lego was #1 on my list, go read back on my posts

Lego hasn't even posted since your initial post. If you were truly prioritizing as you said and he was truly your #1 you would've voted for him from the start. I'm curious as to the genuine reason for your switch. In my mind, it looks like you are the one going after defenseless "townies". Quotes because lego has yet to prove either way. My vote towards Finister is a defenseless townie? He actually has been replying and can offer a rebuttal. I explained my reasoning for Rafay. You switched votes before Lego could even offer any response. Strangely, you change votes after I offer my response.

 

 

You know what's funny? You're making arguments against subjects that have already been answered You seem to ignore the actual content of my posts and it seems so because you're so much on the defense and you're making your arguments based what is not in this thread, but what you are actually communicating in the champer of secrets with your scum buddies (common scheme for mafia).

 

 

Lego hasn't even posted since your initial post. If you were truly prioritizing as you said and he was truly your #1 you would've voted for him from the start.

 

 

Answered before you even tried to argue it.

 

Even though I think legoboy is more scum than King Hitler, i'm keeping my vote for King Hitler because he's more experienced with his words in this game.   But legoboy I see right through you.

 

 

In my mind, it looks like you are the one going after defenseless "townies". Quotes because lego has yet to prove either way. My vote towards Finister is a defenseless townie?

 

I was referring to Rafay not Finster?

 

Anyway, Lego & Rafay's interactions are on 2 different scales.

 

Comparison:

 

Rafay: 2 posts all made in D1, 1 reasonable vote, last posted 2 weeks ago, last seen in game 2 weeks ago, last on forums 3 days ago.

Lego: 13 posts over D1 & D2, 1 unreasonable vote, last posted yesterday, last seen in game 3 days ago, last on forums 1 day ago.

 

Who is the clear inactive here? Only an inactive person can be defenseless.

 

I'm calling lego out, and he has yet to defend himself. Why? Maybe cause he knows he's been caught out.

 

The 4 of you that are voting on Rafay based on him 'lurking' are missing the true ACTIVE lurkers and are going to end up killing another innocent townie.

 

King Hitler, I believe you are scum, but I believe lego has proven to be more evident scum than you, that is simply why the vote has changed as I see we're close to deadline and i'd rather have scum dead than townie, i'm sure you would agree hmm?

[SeaBeeGipson]

Unvote.

Thanks for the explanation Finister. AbT, I honestly overlooked the possibility of him waiting for more information.

As for Samus, I'm lost as to what you mean by making arguments that have been answered? Unless I completely looked over it, the points im bringing up haven't been directly spoken about. Most this time I've been poking people and my vote towards Rafay, as I believe I explained, was due to him being unhelpful as town. There wasn't anyone at the time to feel scummy enough for me to vote for, so I was voting to get rid of anything to weigh us down. With random odds, again, Rafay could potentially pop up scum, despite being inactive. Whitebeard did that last game and was scum the whole time.

I'm unsure if deadline is in a few hours or the end of today? If that's the case, I feel everyone is bringing more information towards Lego. I have my concerns with him, though I feel he's a noob not scum. However, I don't believe we should go into D2 without someone lynched. Even if it's me. We need something.

Vote Legoboy.

If he pops up scum, it'll prove Samus is town in my eyes. No scum would lead a lynch against another scum. Least I hope because that's my assumption. His silence towards everyone poking him isn't helping either. It's following my logic with Rafay. Will Lego be silent when we need him later on? Despite our disagreements Master Samus, I do agree at this point. We can gather the most information off D2 from lego.

This back and forth isn't getting us anywhere, because neither of us are going to be lynched. The other thing is whether you or I end up dead tonight. I doubt if you are scum you'd kill me, but if I die, someone is setting you up. Though you are giving scum vibes with each post because I feel you have a weak argument and fail to see reasoning, I'm still under the assumption you're a misled townie. This lynch will decide it for me. If Lego pops up townie, I'm voting for Samus D3. If Lego pops up scum, Samus is more than likely townie.

Let's put this back and forth behind us for now, and see what this lynch yields.

[Samus]

Unvote.

Thanks for the explanation Finister. AbT, I honestly overlooked the possibility of him waiting for more information.

As for Samus, I'm lost as to what you mean by making arguments that have been answered? Unless I completely looked over it, the points im bringing up haven't been directly spoken about. Most this time I've been poking people and my vote towards Rafay, as I believe I explained, was due to him being unhelpful as town. There wasn't anyone at the time to feel scummy enough for me to vote for, so I was voting to get rid of anything to weigh us down. With random odds, again, Rafay could potentially pop up scum, despite being inactive. Whitebeard did that last game and was scum the whole time.

I'm unsure if deadline is in a few hours or the end of today? If that's the case, I feel everyone is bringing more information towards Lego. I have my concerns with him, though I feel he's a noob not scum. However, I don't believe we should go into D2 without someone lynched. Even if it's me. We need something.

Vote Legoboy.

If he pops up scum, it'll prove Samus is town in my eyes. No scum would lead a lynch against another scum. Least I hope because that's my assumption. His silence towards everyone poking him isn't helping either. It's following my logic with Rafay. Will Lego be silent when we need him later on? Despite our disagreements Master Samus, I do agree at this point. We can gather the most information off D2 from lego.

This back and forth isn't getting us anywhere, because neither of us are going to be lynched. The other thing is whether you or I end up dead tonight. I doubt if you are scum you'd kill me, but if I die, someone is setting you up. Though you are giving scum vibes with each post because I feel you have a weak argument and fail to see reasoning, I'm still under the assumption you're a misled townie. This lynch will decide it for me. If Lego pops up townie, I'm voting for Samus D3. If Lego pops up scum, Samus is more than likely townie.

Let's put this back and forth behind us for now, and see what this lynch yields.

 

Agreed this back & forth isn't getting us anywhere. I don't know if you are scum, but you're one I suspect, also I would agree with you voting for me if lego turns out to be town and would agree with everyone else does too. 

 

Also I disagree with the sentiment that scum wouldn't vote for their scum buddies, there can be strategy to scum voting for their partners. I'll explain this if I survive the night.

[KevinH]

Unofficial Vote Count
 

Wolfpacks (4): iSocialism, Ali bin Turban, Rhizoctonia, Preston,

Rafay (3): KevinH, Lyner, Sister Midnight

legoboyvdlp (3): Samus, Finster Baby, King Hitler

Samus (1): legoboyvdlp,

KevinH (1): Wolfpacks

Finster Baby (0):

King Hitler (0):

Ali bin Turban (0):

iSocialism (0):

Lyner (0):

Mazuurek (0):

Preston (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Mazuurek, Rafay,

 

 

A little over 3 hours to go and the 3 top candidates aren't voting for each other.
One would think they would try to save themselves.
 

[Rhizoctonia]

Well I hate to be a Finister...this is the exact reason I don't usually put my vote til near the end of the day because I spend the whole time figuring who I think is most while not changing it every time someone makes a good point or not.

But Unvote
Vote: Lego

I already stated my reasons, he would had my vote before I voted Wolf but didn't think we'd have enough active people come on before deadline to get enough for Lego, thus had to go to next on my list. But it seems we do. Lego's vote and reason for Samus D2 I didn't like, nor his answer it wasn't a joke vote when he was called out for it....seemingly trying to make it a legitimate reason to vote. I have been right going with my gut early on, and thus I am choosing to go with it here.

He's new to Mafia, but I am not going to keep giving people the benefit of the doubt for that. Feemion and WB was new last game, slipped up early and should of been knocked out, yet everyone let them off the hook because they were new and allowed a pass, besides me.

We can't keep justifying people miss speaking as well they're new. Yes, they're new but you can't keep writing them off as that being justification for not lynching them when they slip up.

Typing on phone so my fat fingers and autocorrect probably screwed up some of what I was trying to say, but hopefully not. If Lego isn't scum, I will be shifting my focus on wolfpacks.

[Wolfpacks]

Unofficial Vote Count

Wolfpacks (4): iSocialism, Ali bin Turban, Rhizoctonia, Preston,

Rafay (3): KevinH, Lyner, Sister Midnight

legoboyvdlp (3): Samus, Finster Baby, King Hitler

Samus (1): legoboyvdlp,

KevinH (1): Wolfpacks

Finster Baby (0):

King Hitler (0):

Ali bin Turban (0):

iSocialism (0):

Lyner (0):

Mazuurek (0):

Preston (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

No Lynch (0):
Not voting: Mazuurek, Rafay,

A little over 3 hours to go and the 3 top candidates aren't voting for each other.
One would think they would try to save themselves.

I'm not sure people are reading my posts, maybe it's because of my past posts, but I did give my reasons for not voting to save my arse, but then why would it be any different in here as it is in IRON

[Sister Midnight]

At this point I am looking hard at the inactives.  I don't feel I have enough of evidence to lynch any other individual.  I really want to vote for Rafay because of his consistent inactivity from game to game, but for this particular game he is not posting on the forums at all and I haven't seen him on discord, both of which make his inactivity less scummy to me.  I really hate it that this is Rafay's ongoing strategy.  Next game I play I intend to vote to lynch someone on the first night because not posting at all really messes with my ability to tease out anything of use later in the game (sorry in advance, Kevin, I know you dislike a first night lynch). 

 

UNVOTE RAFAY

 

I do not want to waste my vote and I am more suspicious of Lego than I am of Wolfy, who I think made some newbie mistakes in his presentation, but is not looking so scummy to me.

 

At this point there are several people who could be scum in my view, but  the final nail in the Lego's coffin (or should I say the final knot in Lego's noose?) is fact that he continues to vote Samus with no explanation at this late hour of the day.  That is just plain bad IMO.

 

 

VOTE LEGO

[Samus]

Been seeing @Lyner lurking in this thread all day.

 

Why don't you chime in too on what you think about Lego or how you feel about Rafay now?

[legoboyvdlp]

Believe it or not Ali, when you or Samus say something, it holds more weight than if others say it, IMO this is why mafia target me on n1  

 

 

Asking for evidence, Ali? That's it.

[Samus]

 

Believe it or not Ali, when you or Samus say something, it holds more weight than if others say it, IMO this is why mafia target me on n1  

 

 

Asking for evidence, Ali? That's it.

 

 

wat

[legoboyvdlp]

It looks like everyone is jumping on top of me because I made a ''joke vote''. 

So, since apparently a valid vote is too joky, I'll just unvote to please you.

 

 

Unvote.

 

Vote: Wolfpacks -- random posting that doesn't help the town doesn't exactly make me want to save him.

 

FOS: KevinH, Samus, King Hitler.