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[Sister Midnight]

Same here, but I'm leaning towards King.  It seems clear he's scum.  In fact,

 

VOTE: KING H

 

I'll change it if someone convinces me he isn't scum or that there's better scum to chase.

[SeaBeeGipson]

Oh wow I missed alot. I'm honestly surprised I am not at the end of a wagon from my inactivity.
First, my role claim that Samus requested. Ron Weasley, 1 shot commuter. May be why the results were different, though if my understanding is that the Ninja and VT also pull that result, what role could Lyner have? If VT pulls a different result than normal, we come to the conclusion that Lyner has a role other than VT. Possibly town, possibly scum.
Second, my inactivity. Keep it short and sweet. I'm going through a course of training and let's say the events in Dallas last night have lengthened a few things. Mainly because that's where I live and it all happened right around here.
Third, I feel as Samus is the only true 100% townie in my eyes. He roleclaimed, he led the lynch on Lego. I don't have alot of time at the moment. I just got back and I'll be going again in a few hours. I'd rather spend time with my kid than a back and forth, but at least now I should be able to participate more again.
FoS: mazuurek
Post didn't add much. Any post is contributing really, whether it contributes to you being scum or town is up in the air. But there has been alot of discussion to contribute to.

King Hitler's main point in his favor remains that Lego vote. However it is VERY difficult for me to reconcile him actually lying about his role like that. I see no reason for a townie to lie in the first place. Even if his posts since being confronted are not what Kevin would expect a savvy scum to do, neither are they what I would have expected from a townie. I would have expected confusion over why he was being accused, not... giving up posts, and "What magic is this?" - a quote from Book 1's main bad guy.SO: King Hitler, this is your opportunity to speak up and explain the posts youve made, especially those since you were called out. Clarify and confirm your role, and what you did which night, and what results you were given that made you post the way you did. If you can back it up, that may carry some weight to reduce the suspicion on you.On the flip side, welcome back Lyner? Whatever happened to "I wont be posting much until weekends, RL stuff?"? Looks like you were lurking after all, to see yourself suddenly at 4 votes and needing to respond to it! But I'm glad you're here to speak up in your own defense at least.I agree with clearing or confirming the non-confirmed players before seeking a Godfather, if one exists - which does make me a little curious why Kevin was pushing Wolfpacks earlier.Let's not rush this until both KH and Lyner have had more of a say... if someone hammers Lyner and he proves town, we'll be fairly certain scum are on that wagon.-Preston

I could give an explanation, but I thought trying a new play style would be fun and so far, it's making the game interesting in my opinion. At this point, who would believe any explanation? If you go back to the post where I roleclaimed (see above.) I never mention I used my ability. I didnt. Everyone assumed that for who knows why. I used it the day I said I was blocked and got the result "nothing happened." Ergo, blocked. Unless it meant no one targetted me but it's something I should've confirmed with mod before I posted.

Anyway, I'm going to put everyone's name in a hat, pull one out and cast my vote. May the luck be ever in your favor.

[Finster Baby]

UNVOTE

KH that's about the worst explanation I've heard from anyone.

You can do better. The only reason I haven't voted for you just now is I'm not gonna be the hammer vote.

[SeaBeeGipson]

UNVOTEKH that's about the worst explanation I've heard from anyone.You can do better. The only reason I haven't voted for you just now is I'm not gonna be the hammer vote.

Thank you

[Preston]

I never mention I used my ability. I didnt. Everyone assumed that for who knows why.

First, my role claim that Samus requested. Ron Weasley, 1 shot commuter. May be why the results were different

Emphasis mine - if you did not use your ability, why would you say that is why the result Samus saw could be different? On a night where you do not use your ability you should be the same as anyone else, and only if you used your ability that night should anything have possibly been different. So it feels like you were using your role as an explanation for Samus' different result. How do you reconcile what you said about your role affecting Samus' results then with saying now that you did not use your role at all?

-Preston

[Finster Baby]

I never mention I used my ability. I didnt. Everyone assumed that for who knows why.

First, my role claim that Samus requested. Ron Weasley, 1 shot commuter. May be why the results were different

Emphasis mine - if you did not use your ability, why would you say that is why the result Samus saw could be different? On a night where you do not use your ability you should be the same as anyone else, and only if you used your ability that night should anything have possibly been different. So it feels like you were using your role as an explanation for Samus' different result. How do you reconcile what you said about your role affecting Samus' results then with saying now that you did not use your role at all?

-Preston

Plus, if you remember when I challenged him about his commuter role being blocked, I pointed out that the commuter role cannot be blocked

Something stinks to high heaven here.

[SeaBeeGipson]

I never mention I used my ability. I didnt. Everyone assumed that for who knows why.

First, my role claim that Samus requested. Ron Weasley, 1 shot commuter. May be why the results were different

Emphasis mine - if you did not use your ability, why would you say that is why the result Samus saw could be different? On a night where you do not use your ability you should be the same as anyone else, and only if you used your ability that night should anything have possibly been different. So it feels like you were using your role as an explanation for Samus' different result. How do you reconcile what you said about your role affecting Samus' results then with saying now that you did not use your role at all?-Preston

Plus, if you remember when I challenged him about his commuter role being blocked, I pointed out that the commuter role cannot be blockedSomething stinks to high heaven here.

What's it smell like? I smell air.

Also, I drew Sister Midnight from my magical hat of names.
Unvote.
Vote Sister Midnight

[The Warrior]

"'Oh Professor Flitwick, I'm so worried I think I got question fourteen b wrong....'"

 

Vote Count
 

Lyner (3): iSocialism, KevinH, Mazuurek

King Hitler (2): Lyner, Sister Midnight

Sister Midnight (1): King Hitler

Finster Baby (0):

iSocialism (0):

KevinH (0):

Mazuurek (0):

Preston (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Finster Baby, Preston, Sister Midnight, Wolfpacks

 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is 12:00pm CST on Monday, July 25th.

[Sister Midnight]

Also, I drew Sister Midnight from my magical hat of names.
Unvote.
Vote Sister Midnight

Shocker

[SeaBeeGipson]

Well I only put your name and Lyner's in the hat. So it was like a 50/50

[KevinH]

King Hitler's main point in his favor remains that Lego vote ... which does make me a little curious why Kevin was pushing Wolfpacks earlier.

 

We're at a point in the game where we have alot of data points. I'm playing with the attitude that I may be killed soon and need to make my analysis heard.

1. One set of players lynched Legoboy when it seems that a scum on the wagon could have influenced things otherwise, but the possibility remains that scum might have been in on the lynch of their own.
2. Another set of players have been cleared through investigation, but the possibility remains that a Godfather exists.
3. One player was targetted by scum and could easily have been lynched when there was a townie choice that could have been made by that scum.

While not doing anything particularly scummy, Lyner didn't vote for Legoboy, didn't get cleared through investigation, and wasn't in serious danger from a scum vote.  So Lyner gets my vote.

 

If we need to look further to find scum, then it's a wide open field again because either the scum voted for themselves or there's a Godfather.

 

Based on posts, King Hitler and Wolfpacks are the next choices.

• King Hitler has very "random" and entertaining ideas, but I don't see anything devious in them.
• Wolfpacks was clearly acting on behalf of Ali bin Turban and now simply admits that he got it wrong.  However, maybe he really is a scum that hoped to save his buddy.

 

 

 

[Lyner]

King Hitler's main point in his favor remains that Lego vote. However it is VERY difficult for me to reconcile him actually lying about his role like that. I see no reason for a townie to lie in the first place. Even if his posts since being confronted are not what Kevin would expect a savvy scum to do, neither are they what I would have expected from a townie. I would have expected confusion over why he was being accused, not... giving up posts, and "What magic is this?" - a quote from Book 1's main bad guy.

SO: King Hitler, this is your opportunity to speak up and explain the posts youve made, especially those since you were called out. Clarify and confirm your role, and what you did which night, and what results you were given that made you post the way you did. If you can back it up, that may carry some weight to reduce the suspicion on you.

On the flip side, welcome back Lyner? Whatever happened to "I wont be posting much until weekends, RL stuff?"? Looks like you were lurking after all, to see yourself suddenly at 4 votes and needing to respond to it! But I'm glad you're here to speak up in your own defense at least.

I agree with clearing or confirming the non-confirmed players before seeking a Godfather, if one exists - which does make me a little curious why Kevin was pushing Wolfpacks earlier.

Let's not rush this until both KH and Lyner have had more of a say... if someone hammers Lyner and he proves town, we'll be fairly certain scum are on that wagon.

-Preston

 

 

Twisting my words now, Preston? I won't be posting much, aka not watching this thread as frequently as I do usually

 

 

Eh if I were scum wouldn't I rather wait till the "weekends" before making any statement? I'm pretty sure any townies wouldn't want to hammer me until I say anything. I'll note your strange insistence on this Preston, if I am still alive by tomorrow that is

Well Kevin, if you still insist on Wolfpack being a godfather why bother investigating him yesterday?

[Finster Baby]

We didn't take a godfather role into account initially.

When the godfather is investigated, he will come up as a vanilla town. Hence, why there's still suspicion even after Wolfpacks came back as a town.

Right now I'm 50/50 between You and KH. I'm looking for reasons to not vote for one...

[iSocialism]

I think it would be safe just for you to give your character name. It doesn't really do much, but it's something else.

[KevinH]

I was hoping that the Wolfpacks investigation would come back as scum.  It would have made things so much easier.

[Finster Baby]

You and me both Kevin. You and me both.

[Wolfpacks]

Tbh neither you still sound convinced about me, if I was the godfather wouldn't I rather vote for Ali bin turban to throw you off the scent then try to defend him. Remember there are 2 other possibles.

[SeaBeeGipson]

Tbh neither you still sound convinced about me, if I was the godfather wouldn't I rather vote for Ali bin turban to throw you off the scent then try to defend him. Remember there are 2 other possibles.

I honestly don't know why they are targeting you. When we have better candidates available.

[Sister Midnight]

 

Tbh neither you still sound convinced about me, if I was the godfather wouldn't I rather vote for Ali bin turban to throw you off the scent then try to defend him. Remember there are 2 other possibles.

I honestly don't know why they are targeting you. When we have better candidates available.

 

Like you?

[Preston]

At this point the wagons are Lyner and KingHitler - Wolfpacks, while talked about, has not been a wagon subject yet.

So King Hitler was given a opportunity to explain himself, and... I am not sure he's really engaged us about it. With the 'random' vote, it still feels like he is giving up. KH: When you said you got a message "Nothing Happened" - is that verbatim what it said?

-Preston