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[Kitkat16]

I am not sure if i took your statement the way you meant it, but as I read it, it rubbed me the wrong way.  Maybe wasn't meant to, and if so, I apologize for my hasty response, but when someone tells me to "educate" myself, especially on something I've yet to see anyone bring up about your response though you state they have does not sit with me well.  As I stated, I don't see anyone bring up your quick defense of oneself and trying to distance yourself from being on the wagon while trying to shed light on others, especially when no one had even came out D2 pointing suspicion at you for being on it.  You then go ahead and RC when you weren't even close to being lynched which is quite odd as well.  No need to do so that early, and certainly isn't helpful to town if you're to come out basically stating you don't have or don't have a good PR which allows scum to look elsewhere to kill at night and hitting a more important PR. I've seen others show some suspicion towards you for your playstyle and your self-voting yourself, but again, yet to see anyone do so for what I brought up.   

 

I'm going to call out anyone's response or actions that are suspicious to me.   My FOS isn't a vote, but it means I'm looking more into your responses and actions.

 

I was just about to reply and say that I didn't mean it the way it came across. I was trying to be over-the-top humorous. Evidently I should have made it more clear/ I am the only one who finds myself funny. :v I'll reply to your points later, have a mate over at my place atm.

[Rhizoctonia]

I am not sure if i took your statement the way you meant it, but as I read it, it rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe wasn't meant to, and if so, I apologize for my hasty response, but when someone tells me to "educate" myself, especially on something I've yet to see anyone bring up about your response though you state they have does not sit with me well. As I stated, I don't see anyone bring up your quick defense of oneself and trying to distance yourself from being on the wagon while trying to shed light on others, especially when no one had even came out D2 pointing suspicion at you for being on it. You then go ahead and RC when you weren't even close to being lynched which is quite odd as well. No need to do so that early, and certainly isn't helpful to town if you're to come out basically stating you don't have or don't have a good PR which allows scum to look elsewhere to kill at night and hitting a more important PR. I've seen others show some suspicion towards you for your playstyle and your self-voting yourself, but again, yet to see anyone do so for what I brought up.

I'm going to call out anyone's response or actions that are suspicious to me. My FOS isn't a vote, but it means I'm looking more into your responses and actions.

I was just about to reply and say that I didn't mean it the way it came across. I was trying to be over-the-top humorous. Evidently I should have made it more clear/ I am the only one who finds myself funny. :v I'll reply to your points later, have a mate over at my place atm.

Then I do apologize. I know statements in text do not always come across as they're meant, as I've had same happen to me. My response was right after reading it, so it was hasty after taking it wrong. I thought about it for awhile and thought I likely may have taken it wrongly because I haven't had a bad interaction with you prior, thus my last response. So I am sorry for first response.

I'll wait to see what you respond later.

[KevinH]

I'm Madame Maxime. Lynching me, while not being as bad as killing someone with proper powers ...

 

That's an easy thing for a scum to say ...

It certainly could be the truth, but if a scum wanted to fake roleclaim, that's what they would say.

[Kitkat16]

OK, Rhizo. Here are the posts prior to the post you cited where I was FoSed:

 

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/58889-tw-05-harry-potter-and-the-goblet-of-fire-mafia-day-3/page-12#entry895145

 

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/58889-tw-05-harry-potter-and-the-goblet-of-fire-mafia-day-3/page-12#entry895142

 

 

As soon as it turned out that Finster was a cop, given that I was the first person to nominate him, and that was based purely on my gut feeling about the tone of his post, I assumed I would be suspect #1, especially given my erratic style of play throughout this particular game, and especially given that multiple people (as you can see in those posts) had said they were suspicious of me. I roleclaimed when multiple people post-lynch said they were suspicious of me and SM told me to defend myself or face the noose. Nothing more to say on that score. I do have to say I wonder if you're trying to deflect attention from Canik. *looks suspiciously at Rhizo* After all, you were one of the people who lynched Finster.

 

 

I'm Madame Maxime. Lynching me, while not being as bad as killing someone with proper powers ...

 

That's an easy thing for a scum to say ...

It certainly could be the truth, but if a scum wanted to fake roleclaim, that's what they would say.

 

 

Well that's a pity, because it's true. What am I supposed to do, falsely claim to be an Auror or something? :V

[Robert2424]

I need to reread. But I'm still here.

[iSocialism]

A player has a name, but in TW past games the name never meant if they were scum or town.

[Rhizoctonia]

OK, Rhizo. Here are the posts prior to the post you cited where I was FoSed:

 

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/58889-tw-05-harry-potter-and-the-goblet-of-fire-mafia-day-3/page-12#entry895145

 

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/58889-tw-05-harry-potter-and-the-goblet-of-fire-mafia-day-3/page-12#entry895142

 

 

As soon as it turned out that Finster was a cop, given that I was the first person to nominate him, and that was based purely on my gut feeling about the tone of his post, I assumed I would be suspect #1, especially given my erratic style of play throughout this particular game, and especially given that multiple people (as you can see in those posts) had said they were suspicious of me. I roleclaimed when multiple people post-lynch said they were suspicious of me and SM told me to defend myself or face the noose. Nothing more to say on that score. I do have to say I wonder if you're trying to deflect attention from Canik. *looks suspiciously at Rhizo* After all, you were one of the people who lynched Finster.

 

 

I'm Madame Maxime. Lynching me, while not being as bad as killing someone with proper powers ...

 

That's an easy thing for a scum to say ...

It certainly could be the truth, but if a scum wanted to fake roleclaim, that's what they would say.

 

 

Well that's a pity, because it's true. What am I supposed to do, falsely claim to be an Auror or something? :V

 

 

Dude, everyone one the lynch of a townie are going to be suspected, as they should.  SM named me in her FOS as well, but you don't see me starting off the day trying to look to find an excuse for being on the lynch wagon like you have something to hide.  I explained my reason for voting FB, that is enough for me.  If someone wants to suspect me from my reasoning, then so be it, I'll defend myself, but just because I was on the lynch I am not suddenly going to come out trying to make an excuse of how you were "framed" by scum to take the heat.  Being the first person on a lynch isn't usually the most suspected anyway.

It also doesn't explain your roleclaim.  It totally was not needed to be done, you weren't even close to a lynch, so why do it?  Because someone put a FOS on you?  Who cares, you don't just RC when your get some suspicion thrown your way, and then to say you don't have an important PR is not helpful to town either as you're basically saying scum, don't kill my at night, and instead go after an important role.  A roleclaiming just a name proves absolutely nothing. 

 

You can try to shift it to I'm trying to take heat off Canik all you want, I already said I'm leaning towards voting him.  But just because I am, I'm not going to not call out suspicious behavior of others.  Obviously you don't like suspicion thrown your way...but trying to divert it by saying I'm taking heat away from Canik is a terrible excuse.  There's a scum between the likes of you or Canik, which one is what I'm wondering

A player has a name, but in TW past games the name never meant if they were scum or town.

 

 

I disagree a bit with this.  It seems the common theme is the "bad" guys in Harry Potter are usually the mafia and the non evil people are town.  

[Yehom]

Also Kitkat only gave a name, not a role, so it's not much of a role claim to begin with

[Sister Midnight]

A player has a name, but in TW past games the name never meant if they were scum or town.

A girl has no name...oh wait, wrong novel.

TW gives villain names to villains, but gives then alternate names for role claiming.

[Imran Ehsan]

I'm going to hold off on voting, because Canik is basically lynched, but I don't want to end this day prematurely (I'm going to vote Canik)

 

Imran's post makes a lot of sense as Kevin's behavior on D1 would warrant a cop to check Kevin. Finster also didn't pursue Kevin any further after N1 ended so it's safe to say that Kevin has been checked by Finster and has been cleared as a townie. I'm betting that SGB was Finster's 2nd check and turned out to be scum, hence his very sudden jump on him after he said that he was fine with SGB being busy and thus inactive

 

As far as my own innocence I was maybe too fast with dismissing Canik as being least likely scum between himself and Finster. Finster's sudden jump just threw me off and Canik made very quick work to punish that

 

Interesting......

 

So you are saying Finster used his first night action on kevin and found him town. And then on the second night he checked out SBG and found him scum?

[Kitkat16]

Well, I leave judgments re: my innocence or lack thereof to my esteemed fellow IRON members. I have already explained my reasons for acting as I did and I don't think I have acted irrationally. "Defend yourself or face the noose" then "omg roleclaiming makes you look like scum", welp! Evidently I assumed the sentiment against me was stronger than it actually was. I had just defended myself from accusations that I was scum and in the face of that was still threatened with a lynching unless I could defend myself further. From my perspective, I had to play my final card.

 

P.S. assuming that you're going to be suspected for starting the lynch on Finster when that was not on strong evidential grounds is not unreasonable either.

[Yehom]

I'm going to hold off on voting, because Canik is basically lynched, but I don't want to end this day prematurely (I'm going to vote Canik)

Imran's post makes a lot of sense as Kevin's behavior on D1 would warrant a cop to check Kevin. Finster also didn't pursue Kevin any further after N1 ended so it's safe to say that Kevin has been checked by Finster and has been cleared as a townie. I'm betting that SGB was Finster's 2nd check and turned out to be scum, hence his very sudden jump on him after he said that he was fine with SGB being busy and thus inactive

As far as my own innocence I was maybe too fast with dismissing Canik as being least likely scum between himself and Finster. Finster's sudden jump just threw me off and Canik made very quick work to punish that

Interesting......

So you are saying Finster used his first night action on kevin and found him town. And then on the second night he checked out SBG and found him scum?

Meh I just realized that you guys play mafia differently. I'm used to PR's using their powers before D1 starts. In my scenario it's possible for Finster to use his powers twice already, but here he could have only once because he was lynched before he could use it a second time. It still doesn't explain to me why Finster would act like he did on D2

[Imran Ehsan]

 

 

I'm going to hold off on voting, because Canik is basically lynched, but I don't want to end this day prematurely (I'm going to vote Canik)

Imran's post makes a lot of sense as Kevin's behavior on D1 would warrant a cop to check Kevin. Finster also didn't pursue Kevin any further after N1 ended so it's safe to say that Kevin has been checked by Finster and has been cleared as a townie. I'm betting that SGB was Finster's 2nd check and turned out to be scum, hence his very sudden jump on him after he said that he was fine with SGB being busy and thus inactive

As far as my own innocence I was maybe too fast with dismissing Canik as being least likely scum between himself and Finster. Finster's sudden jump just threw me off and Canik made very quick work to punish that

Interesting......

So you are saying Finster used his first night action on kevin and found him town. And then on the second night he checked out SBG and found him scum?

Meh I just realized that you guys play mafia differently. I'm used to PR's using their powers before D1 starts. In my scenario it's possible for Finster to use his powers twice already, but here he could have only once because he was lynched before he could use it a second time. It still doesn't explain to me why Finster would act like he did on D2

 

 

That or you are trying to set up SBG up for a mislynch later. anyway if you turn up scum then it will clear SBG.

[Yehom]

You can see the worst if you want to believe. It was an honest mistake as I play mafia differently. It almost cost me in another game as well. Can you honestly fault my thinking there?

[Robert2424]

I'm willing to believe finster investigated Kevin, but we don't know Kevin s role so it's hard to say. Even if I was a 2 shot or even one shot cop, I would use my night action immediately.

Looking over today, kit Kat is still being weird, as for canik, even though I was willing to Lynch him, I'm worried about doing it today. Him hammering was enabled by others. If he's town, he was given one option at the very end. Lynch foster, or get lynched himself. I feel yehom should be getting more heat then he should and he's currently on the top of my scum list.

VOTE YEHOM

Nothing is settling right with anything he said and his jump onto finster bandwagon was out of character. If we are going to start somewhere I'd rather start here.

[KevinH]

I agree that Canik's best move, whether town or scum, was to vote for Finster Baby to save himself.

 

That doesn't change the fact that Finster Baby was voting for Canik, and I'd like to follow through with his intentions.

[Imran Ehsan]

Canik voted at the last minute or 30 mins before deadline. He was in no danger of being lynched then. He could have easily not voted and let the game go to another night with another lynch. But he didnt and hammered the vote. So his claim that he hammered FB to save himself is false.

^  ...go to another night with no lynch i meant.

[Rhizoctonia]

Canik voted at the last minute or 30 mins before deadline. He was in no danger of being lynched then. He could have easily not voted and let the game go to another night with another lynch. But he didnt and hammered the vote. So his claim that he hammered FB to save himself is false.

^  ...go to another night with no lynch i meant.

 

Disagree with this, plenty of people wait last minute to vote, and when he voted it was 3 for him and 3 for FB, with 2 people not voting, and 3 more including yourself on people where there was a single vote.  That leaves 5 people that could of possibly came on last minute and voted Canik, and it's not like it hasn't before.  

 

Even still, Canik seems like the best option for me today.  

 

Vote: Canik

[The Warrior]

Vote Count

 

Canik (5): Canik, KevinH, Imran Ehsan, Kitkat16, Rhizoctonia

Kitkat16 (1): SeaBeeGipson

Yehom (1): Robert2424

Chaplain of Death (0):

Imran Ehsan (0):

iSocialism (0):

KevinH (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Robert2424 (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: Chaplain of Death, iSocialism, Sister Midnight, Wolfpacks, Yehom

With 12 alive, it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is 10:00am CST on Monday, February 13th.

[iSocialism]

My better judgement, canik hasn't, I'm my mind, given a list of his suspect. Majority of the people are hesitant on voting for him. While there's a strong wagon on him. There hasn't been a counter wagon, or much of a defense from others. Both of these can be good or bad, some Are likely bad while some are good. However, with my judgement I'm not going to vote for canik but rather someone else.

Vote Yehom