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[The Warrior]

Vote Count
 

LordSunday (5): iSocialism, Chaplain of Death, Sister Midnight, Finster Baby, King Cankles

iSocialism (5): SeaBeeGipson, FS108, KevinH, Yehom, Rhizoctonia

Rhizoctonia (1): LordSunday

SeaBeeGipson (1): Kitkat16

Chaplain of Death (0):

Finster Baby (0):

FS108 (0):

KevinH (0):

King Cankles (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Lyner (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

Yehom (0):

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Lyner, Wolfpacks

 

With 14 alive it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Friday, June 9th.

[SeaBeeGipson]

Vote Count
 

LordSunday (5): iSocialism, Chaplain of Death, Sister Midnight, Finster Baby, King Cankles

iSocialism (5): SeaBeeGipson, FS108, KevinH, Yehom, Rhizoctonia

Rhizoctonia (1): LordSunday

SeaBeeGipson (1): Kitkat16

Chaplain of Death (0):

Finster Baby (0):

FS108 (0):

KevinH (0):

King Cankles (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Lyner (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

Yehom (0):

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Lyner, Wolfpacks

 

With 14 alive it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Friday, June 9th.

In the event of a tie, what happens?

[Rhizoctonia]

 

Vote Count
 

LordSunday (5): iSocialism, Chaplain of Death, Sister Midnight, Finster Baby, King Cankles

iSocialism (5): SeaBeeGipson, FS108, KevinH, Yehom, Rhizoctonia

Rhizoctonia (1): LordSunday

SeaBeeGipson (1): Kitkat16

Chaplain of Death (0):

Finster Baby (0):

FS108 (0):

KevinH (0):

King Cankles (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Lyner (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

Yehom (0):

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Lyner, Wolfpacks

 

With 14 alive it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Friday, June 9th.

In the event of a tie, what happens?

 

 

 

First one to reach the tied number is one lynched.  So LS

[iSocialism]

So to better explain myself as best as I can

 

If you're voting LS, you assume it's more likely LS is scum and Isocialism is town.

 

So, say that this is the case, why would LS pull his vote from from Isocialism if LS is scum and Isocialism is town.  It doesn't make sense, especially considering the fact that this vote, like last one, is very close and may come down to a vote or 2.  If LS is scum, he still has a chance to help lynch a town.  Sure he will be killed the next day once Isocialism is found to be town, but why not try to kill off a town before that, thus voting Isocialism to help his chances.  

 

The only reason, if LS is scum, to not vote Isocialism (a town in this scenario) and instead vote me would be if LS knew he was a goner today, and I was a scum partner, him voting me and putting suspicion on me right before he's lynched would in turn gain me some town points that a known scum tried to put suspicion on me.  He would die, but I would look less suspicious.  That however I know isn't the situation, because I'm not scum, thus this can't be his rational.  

 

So to me, he's likely telling the truth that he honestly believes he came up scum due to a framer.  It just doesn't make sense if LS is truely scum why he would pull his vote off Isocialism when he knows it's either him or Isocialism today.  

 

So vote who you want.  I have swapped back and forth today, as both have some reasons to make me think they're lying.  I'm not going to sit here and tell someone how to vote, but I'll give my rational (when I have time to actually type)  I am not sure who is who, but I have tried to analyze what I have, and at this point I'm likely staying where I'm at and will see what happens, hopefully chose right.  

Then if you believe the truth is that LS is town and was framed, and that I'm still town. WHY vote me? You're saying you rather have a JOAT lynched than a VT. I'm seeing this as a last ditch effort, a distraction.

Why would he pull his vote off of me and onto you.

Because; he only did this after, "the post" but also after he was L-1 and looking strongly to be the lynched target. The people on my wagon, have been there for a while.. most of them. However, the people on LS wagon have been. He had nothing else, but to try to get a few people off his wagon. Just enough to have a lower count them mine.

This whole time though, he hasn't really scum hunted anyone else. Hasn't drawn a list, hasn't talked about SBG. He just been so sold on the fact that I'm town and he was framed. Maybe if he would have done all that it would be more believable.... I can keep going on and on about this whole reason. However, it's bias. I 100% believe LS is scum, and if I'm wrong I won't play my self out of it.I'll let the night do the talking.

[Rhizoctonia]

So to better explain myself as best as I can

If you're voting LS, you assume it's more likely LS is scum and Isocialism is town.

So, say that this is the case, why would LS pull his vote from from Isocialism if LS is scum and Isocialism is town. It doesn't make sense, especially considering the fact that this vote, like last one, is very close and may come down to a vote or 2. If LS is scum, he still has a chance to help lynch a town. Sure he will be killed the next day once Isocialism is found to be town, but why not try to kill off a town before that, thus voting Isocialism to help his chances.

The only reason, if LS is scum, to not vote Isocialism (a town in this scenario) and instead vote me would be if LS knew he was a goner today, and I was a scum partner, him voting me and putting suspicion on me right before he's lynched would in turn gain me some town points that a known scum tried to put suspicion on me. He would die, but I would look less suspicious. That however I know isn't the situation, because I'm not scum, thus this can't be his rational.

So to me, he's likely telling the truth that he honestly believes he came up scum due to a framer. It just doesn't make sense if LS is truely scum why he would pull his vote off Isocialism when he knows it's either him or Isocialism today.

So vote who you want. I have swapped back and forth today, as both have some reasons to make me think they're lying. I'm not going to sit here and tell someone how to vote, but I'll give my rational (when I have time to actually type) I am not sure who is who, but I have tried to analyze what I have, and at this point I'm likely staying where I'm at and will see what happens, hopefully chose right.

Then if you believe the truth is that LS is town and was framed, and that I'm still town. WHY vote me? You're saying you rather have a JOAT lynched than a VT. I'm seeing this as a last ditch effort, a distraction.
Why would he pull his vote off of me and onto you.
Because; he only did this after, "the post" but also after he was L-1 and looking strongly to be the lynched target. The people on my wagon, have been there for a while.. most of them. However, the people on LS wagon have been. He had nothing else, but to try to get a few people off his wagon. Just enough to have a lower count them mine.
This whole time though, he hasn't really scum hunted anyone else. Hasn't drawn a list, hasn't talked about SBG. He just been so sold on the fact that I'm town and he was framed. Maybe if he would have done all that it would be more believable.... I can keep going on and on about this whole reason. However, it's bias. I 100% believe LS is scum, and if I'm wrong I won't play my self out of it.I'll let the night do the talking.

Just because he may believe he was framed does not mean I believe it. Just because he believes you're not lying doesn't mean I do. If he's town, it doesn't mean you're town.

I believe I've stated plenty I don't believe the small chance scum framed him. He can believe as he wishes, but just because he wants to believe the small chance he was framed to you lying doesn't mean I do.

And if you're wrong, I really don't get the I'll let the night do the talking. If LS is town, anything you'll do at night will be to benefit scum

[iSocialism]

I believe you said you thought that he was telling the truth. In which

Since
I'm at 6 votes and scum can hammer my death overnight, I just want it
to be known that the honest #1 on my list is Rhizo. He's the first
proponent of the "lynch the other if the one lynched today is town"
theory, and given that I'm confident iSoc is town, he very well knows
that this will kill off two townies without drawing much suspicion to
himself.

 

iSoc, your inability to understand that your
result could have been and were wrong is costing the town 2 lives. If
the maf wins, I personally place that blame on you.

 

Another
to note is the man above me who made this notion of lynching the other
immediately if I am town (King Cankles). These people most likely know
both of us are town, and will more than likely be the first ones to push
for iSoc's lynch tomorrow when I come up green.

[Rhizoctonia]

Now you're purposefully looking to put words in my mouth and spin them around.  You took the time to highlight in yellow the reply before this, maybe you should reread.

 

So to me, he's likely telling the truth that he honestly believes he came up scum due to a framer

 

 

That is what I said.  No where did I state just because he believes he was framed that I do.  No where did I state I believe he's right about believing you're town.  I said I believed he truly thinks he was framed.  I never stated I believed it.  But just so you get it, here's another quote of my comment.

 

So to me, he's likely telling the truth that he honestly believes he came up scum due to a framer

 

 

I honestly believe, that he believes, he came up scum due to a framer, not I believe this happened.  I think you're a scum who is making it up, but LS can believe in the .5% over that.  The fact you're going to this extent to put words in my mouth now makes me more confident in my decision to vote you.

 

I believe he's a town that's believing overwhelming odds that something happened when the chances are minuscule.  He can believe it, I don't, and have said so time and time again. 

[Rhizoctonia]

I am going to bed, and doubt I'll be able to post much tomorrow before the day ends.   My vote is not changing.  

 

If LS is the one lynched, and he comes up town, I hope town makes the right choice and lynches Isocialism tomorrow if I'm not around.  If he comes up scum, then I'd go after Lyner followed by the others that came out so defensively of Isocialism at the start of today, the likes of Yehom (now is voting isocialism, distancing oneself? ) and Kitkat.  

 

Only ones I feel comfortable saying is town is WP, FS108, and CoD.   

[Kitkat16]

 

Now you're purposefully looking to put words in my mouth and spin them around.  You took the time to highlight in yellow the reply before this, maybe you should reread.

 

So to me, he's likely telling the truth that he honestly believes he came up scum due to a framer

 

 

That is what I said.  No where did I state just because he believes he was framed that I do.  No where did I state I believe he's right about believing you're town.  I said I believed he truly thinks he was framed.  I never stated I believed it.  But just so you get it, here's another quote of my comment.

 

So to me, he's likely telling the truth that he honestly believes he came up scum due to a framer

 

 

I honestly believe, that he believes, he came up scum due to a framer, not I believe this happened.  I think you're a scum who is making it up, but LS can believe in the .5% over that.  The fact you're going to this extent to put words in my mouth now makes me more confident in my decision to vote you.

 

I believe he's a town that's believing overwhelming odds that something happened when the chances are minuscule.  He can believe it, I don't, and have said so time and time again. 

 

 

The truth is staring you in the face. They're both town.

[Rhizoctonia]

If Isocialism isn't lynched and LS comes up town, don't be surprised Isocialism continues his too perfect of a story knocking off one of his own tonight sacrificing a scum to concrete his Towness and to take all the heat off him and the other one.

[King Cankles]

Shit man now I'm convinced they're both town.

[Kitkat16]

If Isocialism isn't lynched and LS comes up town, don't be surprised Isocialism continues his too perfect of a story knocking off one of his own tonight sacrificing a scum to concrete his Towness and to take all the heat off him and the other one.

 

Uh huh. Why on earth would he do that? He's already in the spotlight; there's too great a possibility he'll get lynched. Scum will be busily killing off someone tonight as quickly as they can, you mark my words. After SLMK was lynched and they missed a kill last night, they can't afford not to.

 

(Also, you see guys, this is why we don't end the day early... people say stuff and it helps us to pin someone down.)

 

Unvote SBG

Vote: Rhizo

 

You're deliberately ignoring what's right in front of you.

[Rhizoctonia]

 

If Isocialism isn't lynched and LS comes up town, don't be surprised Isocialism continues his too perfect of a story knocking off one of his own tonight sacrificing a scum to concrete his Towness and to take all the heat off him and the other one.

 

Uh huh. Why on earth would he do that? He's already in the spotlight; there's too great a possibility he'll get lynched. Scum will be busily killing off someone tonight as quickly as they can, you mark my words. After SLMK was lynched and they missed a kill last night, they can't afford not to.

 

(Also, you see guys, this is why we don't end the day early... people say stuff and it helps us to pin someone down.)

 

Unvote SBG

Vote: Rhizo

 

You're deliberately ignoring what's right in front of you.

 

 

 

Why wouldn't he do that?  Of course if he's wrong he's already in the limelight, you know what will remove that suspicion and avoid being lynched, seemingly knocking off a scum buddy tonight.  Set's him up for the rest of the game.  He's been foreshadowing it in his last few posts.  "If I'm wrong, I'll let tonight speak for it itself."   Did the same shit D2 when he dropped the "someone's on SLMK's Wagon I dont trust, why I went WP."  Then next day he comes out with this LS claim.  He's got an excuse for each wrong action he does.  

 

It's also comical you vote me for not supposedly seeing what's right in front of me, yet your boy Isocialism has been pushing LS all day.  He's obviously not getting what's right in front of him either, dont see you calling him out or voting him.  But that is to be expected

[Finster Baby]

Dammit.

The "They're both town" arguments are quite convincing. Rhizo's credibility has taken a hit in my eyes.

However, if I unvote, then iSoc is at 5 and gets lynched. If I keep my vote LS gets it, unless others defect.

I really don't know what to believe anymore. There's been too much back and forth and twisting and my puny little head is having difficulty processing this.

I will let the overnight (RL) play out and finalize my vote before deadline tomorrow afternoon.

What a strange day.

[Rhizoctonia]

Isocialism this whole day has claimed to be 100% sure LS is scum

 

Yet...

 

Because I think LS is town, he wants to use the fact that LS has said he believes Isocialism is town as some reason for me to not vote Isocialism, all awhile, he's still voting LS.

 

 

How can someone honestly claim someone is scum, then tell someone well if you believe he's town and he thinks I am, you shouldn't vote me.  How does that make any sense?   He wants to kill LS while telling me to believe what LS said as a reason to deflect my vote off him.  Please tell me, in any other mafia game, has someone on one hand try to lynch someone, while also telling people to listen to the person they're trying to lynch?  This is a first for me

 

Honestly, if this makes sense to you'll, there's not more I can really say.  I already have a headache, I don't need another banging my head against my keyboard in disbelief.  

[Kitkat16]

 

 

If Isocialism isn't lynched and LS comes up town, don't be surprised Isocialism continues his too perfect of a story knocking off one of his own tonight sacrificing a scum to concrete his Towness and to take all the heat off him and the other one.

 

Uh huh. Why on earth would he do that? He's already in the spotlight; there's too great a possibility he'll get lynched. Scum will be busily killing off someone tonight as quickly as they can, you mark my words. After SLMK was lynched and they missed a kill last night, they can't afford not to.

 

(Also, you see guys, this is why we don't end the day early... people say stuff and it helps us to pin someone down.)

 

Unvote SBG

Vote: Rhizo

 

You're deliberately ignoring what's right in front of you.

 

 

 

Why wouldn't he do that?  Of course if he's wrong he's already in the limelight, you know what will remove that suspicion and avoid being lynched, seemingly knocking off a scum buddy tonight.  Set's him up for the rest of the game.  He's been foreshadowing it in his last few posts.  "If I'm wrong, I'll let tonight speak for it itself."   Did the same shit D2 when he dropped the "someone's on SLMK's Wagon I dont trust, why I went WP."  Then next day he comes out with this LS claim.  He's got an excuse for each wrong action he does.  

 

It's also comical you vote me for not supposedly seeing what's right in front of me, yet your boy Isocialism has been pushing LS all day.  He's obviously not getting what's right in front of him either, dont see you calling him out or voting him.  But that is to be expected

 

 

Leaving the scum team with a grand total of two scum? (Or possibly three max?) I could see scum (possibly) pulling a move like that if they weren't already down a man and having had a kill blocked last night (although even then it's unlikely), but not in the current circumstances.

[Kitkat16]

Do you think that ploy is not going to be dead obvious if no townie dies tonight?

[Rhizoctonia]

 

 

 

If Isocialism isn't lynched and LS comes up town, don't be surprised Isocialism continues his too perfect of a story knocking off one of his own tonight sacrificing a scum to concrete his Towness and to take all the heat off him and the other one.

 

Uh huh. Why on earth would he do that? He's already in the spotlight; there's too great a possibility he'll get lynched. Scum will be busily killing off someone tonight as quickly as they can, you mark my words. After SLMK was lynched and they missed a kill last night, they can't afford not to.

 

(Also, you see guys, this is why we don't end the day early... people say stuff and it helps us to pin someone down.)

 

Unvote SBG

Vote: Rhizo

 

You're deliberately ignoring what's right in front of you.

 

 

 

Why wouldn't he do that?  Of course if he's wrong he's already in the limelight, you know what will remove that suspicion and avoid being lynched, seemingly knocking off a scum buddy tonight.  Set's him up for the rest of the game.  He's been foreshadowing it in his last few posts.  "If I'm wrong, I'll let tonight speak for it itself."   Did the same shit D2 when he dropped the "someone's on SLMK's Wagon I dont trust, why I went WP."  Then next day he comes out with this LS claim.  He's got an excuse for each wrong action he does.  

 

It's also comical you vote me for not supposedly seeing what's right in front of me, yet your boy Isocialism has been pushing LS all day.  He's obviously not getting what's right in front of him either, dont see you calling him out or voting him.  But that is to be expected

 

 

Leaving the scum team with a grand total of two scum? (Or possibly three max?) I could see scum (possibly) pulling a move like that if they weren't already down a man and having had a kill blocked last night (although even then it's unlikely), but not in the current circumstances.

 

 

 

Ok, let's say LS is killed and is found to be town.  It's going to shine some even higher suspicion on Isocialism, as he's the one whose claimed Ls is scum.  There's a better then average odds, he's going to not only face a lot of heat come tomorrow, but also lynching.  So, what difference does it make if they lynch one of their own tonight and sure up town points for Isocialism, or take out a town tonight and very likely lose a scum anyway tomorrow?  There's scum JOAT's with Vig kills, they could still kill a town while helping Isocialism's whole story.  It doesn't matter how many scum are left, they only need 1 scum that's confirmed town by the real town to win it.

 

I'm just merely pointing out what Isocialism has done.  He used this "someone is on SLMK I don't trust," as a reason to be on the wagon of a likely known town now, WP  He doesn't say who, but comes out D3 with this accusation against LS.  Now he's already once again already hinting at the possibility of being wrong again, and setting up his next way to come out being wrong while still looking town with, "I'll let tonight's action speak." 

[Kitkat16]

 

 

 

 

If Isocialism isn't lynched and LS comes up town, don't be surprised Isocialism continues his too perfect of a story knocking off one of his own tonight sacrificing a scum to concrete his Towness and to take all the heat off him and the other one.

 

Uh huh. Why on earth would he do that? He's already in the spotlight; there's too great a possibility he'll get lynched. Scum will be busily killing off someone tonight as quickly as they can, you mark my words. After SLMK was lynched and they missed a kill last night, they can't afford not to.

 

(Also, you see guys, this is why we don't end the day early... people say stuff and it helps us to pin someone down.)

 

Unvote SBG

Vote: Rhizo

 

You're deliberately ignoring what's right in front of you.

 

 

 

Why wouldn't he do that?  Of course if he's wrong he's already in the limelight, you know what will remove that suspicion and avoid being lynched, seemingly knocking off a scum buddy tonight.  Set's him up for the rest of the game.  He's been foreshadowing it in his last few posts.  "If I'm wrong, I'll let tonight speak for it itself."   Did the same shit D2 when he dropped the "someone's on SLMK's Wagon I dont trust, why I went WP."  Then next day he comes out with this LS claim.  He's got an excuse for each wrong action he does.  

 

It's also comical you vote me for not supposedly seeing what's right in front of me, yet your boy Isocialism has been pushing LS all day.  He's obviously not getting what's right in front of him either, dont see you calling him out or voting him.  But that is to be expected

 

 

Leaving the scum team with a grand total of two scum? (Or possibly three max?) I could see scum (possibly) pulling a move like that if they weren't already down a man and having had a kill blocked last night (although even then it's unlikely), but not in the current circumstances.

 

 

 

Ok, let's say LS is killed and is found to be town.  It's going to shine some even higher suspicion on Isocialism, as he's the one whose claimed Ls is scum.  There's a better then average odds, he's going to not only face a lot of heat come tomorrow, but also lynching.  So, what difference does it make if they lynch one of their own tonight and sure up town points for Isocialism, or take out a town tonight and very likely lose a scum anyway tomorrow?  There's scum JOAT's with Vig kills, they could still kill a town while helping Isocialism's whole story.  It doesn't matter how many scum are left, they only need 1 scum that's confirmed town by the real town to win it.

 

I'm just merely pointing out what Isocialism has done.  He used this "someone is on SLMK I don't trust," as a reason to be on the wagon of a likely known town now, WP  He doesn't say who, but comes out D3 with this accusation against LS.  Now he's already once again already hinting at the possibility of being wrong again, and setting up his next way to come out being wrong while still looking town with, "I'll let tonight's action speak." 

 

Yeah, and if iSoc is lynched anyway (which is entirely possible) the scum team is down to literally one person. It's too risky a move to kill one of their own. I, at least, would never go with such a move.

[Sister Midnight]

Dammit.The "They're both town" arguments are quite convincing. Rhizo's credibility has taken a hit in my eyes.However, if I unvote, then iSoc is at 5 and gets lynched. If I keep my vote LS gets it, unless others defect.I really don't know what to believe anymore. There's been too much back and forth and twisting and my puny little head is having difficulty processing this.I will let the overnight (RL) play out and finalize my vote before deadline tomorrow afternoon.What a strange day.

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