It's not possible. The only roles possible are the ones listed with the exact same alignments. Kevin said that he did not change the alignments of the listed roles. So if you believe that Samus is a 1-shot Vig it means that you believe he is also town.

So it has been 5-6 days since I am back in country after a month long harrowing trip in a different continent. It had been work related so I rarely got any time to have fun. I was extremely tired after coming back and also had some pending office work to finish. Now I can finally devote more time here. I am reading through the thread to catch up since my last visit here, but looking at the eagerness to lynch me, I should consider myself lucky if I am not hammered by the time I am able to finish reading back and post more of my thoughts.

 I think my last post here was royally ignored https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/61143-kh-19the-last-jedi-mafia-day-6/?p=940847
Also Doctor not protecting jail keeper makes me think either of the following could have happened:

1) Doctor himself was role blocked, possibly by werewolf roleblocker or Yehom jailed him.

2) There's no doctor.
 

 

Anyways I am not lying about being out of country for a month, IRON members can check the Gone Fishing thread. My activity dropped across the board, not only here. Still I tried to post whenever I got the chance, but apparently asking to look at people who RCed but cannot be verified or absolutely not contributing anything otherwise, is considered distracting town. Yehom agreed too with me on that but I bet you wont consider he was distracting town too. Or our opportunist player named Kitkat who was agreeing with me on the same while ago, but somehow is onboard with TW's (same as AbT's) list and doesn't waste time or his brain cells before jumping on me.

So TW and AbT, if now I am back and can spend more time here, will you consider moving me up on the list and push down at least another "MIA" player LS below me? Or do you want me to RC just for the sake of it, even though it wont help town AT ALL and probably cant be verified? Also other than my activity, I would like to know what incriminating evidence you have that I am scum that you all are wasting no time putting me at L-2, 7 days before deadline, with the full knowledge that there are 2 ww left and they can hammer me anytime they want and end the day prematurely? Whats the plan then when I flip town? My wagon analysis wont give you any clue either as you guys started it.
 

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Vote count:

Lachiton (4): The Warrior, Ali bin Turban, Kitkat16, Samus,
Samus (2): Canik, Brewersalliance,
Sister Midnight (0):
The Warrior (0): 
Canik (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Jazzy95 (0): 
LordSunday (0):
Ali bin Turban (0):
Kitkat16 (0):

No Lynch (0): 

Not voting:  Lachiton, LordSunday, Sister Midnight, Jazzy95, 

 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, March 29, at 08:00 EDT.

Still waiting for the answer to my questions. 

Also @Samus, you previously thought SM was scum and go as far as to try to night kill her (according to you). Here also you say she is responding as a nervous scum but just like that you switch your vote to me without anything to add from your end. So it doesn't take much effort to swing your views one way or the other.

Also I am finding it extremely laughable how AbT posts 3 questions to SM and after one post immediately clears her, without any of his questions actually being answered.

So it has been 5-6 days since I am back in country after a month long harrowing trip in a different continent. It had been work related so I rarely got any time to have fun. I was extremely tired after coming back and also had some pending office work to finish. Now I can finally devote more time here. I am reading through the thread to catch up since my last visit here, but looking at the eagerness to lynch me, I should consider myself lucky if I am not hammered by the time I am able to finish reading back and post more of my thoughts.

 

 I think my last post here was royally ignored https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/61143-kh-19the-last-jedi-mafia-day-6/?p=940847

Also Doctor not protecting jail keeper makes me think either of the following could have happened:

1) Doctor himself was role blocked, possibly by werewolf roleblocker or Yehom jailed him.

2) There's no doctor.

 

 

Anyways I am not lying about being out of country for a month, IRON members can check the Gone Fishing thread. My activity dropped across the board, not only here. Still I tried to post whenever I got the chance, but apparently asking to look at people who RCed but cannot be verified or absolutely not contributing anything otherwise, is considered distracting town. Yehom agreed too with me on that but I bet you wont consider he was distracting town too. Or our opportunist player named Kitkat who was agreeing with me on the same while ago, but somehow is onboard with TW's (same as AbT's) list and doesn't waste time or his brain cells before jumping on me.

 

So TW and AbT, if now I am back and can spend more time here, will you consider moving me up on the list and push down at least another "MIA" player LS below me? Or do you want me to RC just for the sake of it, even though it wont help town AT ALL and probably cant be verified? Also other than my activity, I would like to know what incriminating evidence you have that I am scum that you all are wasting no time putting me at L-2, 7 days before deadline, with the full knowledge that there are 2 ww left and they can hammer me anytime they want and end the day prematurely? Whats the plan then when I flip town? My wagon analysis wont give you any clue either as you guys started it.

 

 

I know this is going to look terrible, but the man has a point. I was agreeing with Lach until fairly recently. (The honest truth is that I forgot about that. I haven't been rereading the thread.) We could lynch LS instead/ first?

It's not possible. The only roles possible are the ones listed with the exact same alignments. Kevin said that he did not change the alignments of the listed roles. So if you believe that Samus is a 1-shot Vig it means that you believe he is also town.

 

Damn, alright. 

 

​Unvote Samus

 

​Vote Kitkat

 

​SM has a Vig gunning for her. Lach has 3 votes on him. So I'll give my attention to you, Kitkat.  

 

​How about getting us started on the name claims? I really would like the 4 unknowns + Brewers to name claim. And anyone else who hasn't. Did Jazzy?

 

​I just want the character names you were given, NOT your roles. No reason to be shy about it or hide it.. unless you're a scum without a safe name.

 

It's not possible. The only roles possible are the ones listed with the exact same alignments. Kevin said that he did not change the alignments of the listed roles. So if you believe that Samus is a 1-shot Vig it means that you believe he is also town.

 

Damn, alright. 

 

​Unvote Samus

 

​Vote Kitkat

 

​SM has a Vig gunning for her. Lach has 3 votes on him. So I'll give my attention to you, Kitkat.  

 

​How about getting us started on the name claims? I really would like the 4 unknowns + Brewers to name claim. And anyone else who hasn't. Did Jazzy?

 

​I just want the character names you were given, NOT your roles. No reason to be shy about it or hide it.. unless you're a scum without a safe name.

 

 

I almost refused to give you the character name, because it's less well known, and won't be believed. But on reflection, saying that it's less well known and won't be believed isn't any more helpful than just giving you it. So I'm Nien Nunb. I had to Google who that even was, and I've seen The Last Jedi more than once. :v

 

As for roleclaiming, you can forget it, I won't do that even if I'm facing the lynch. Which I'm not, currently.

I am at 4 votes FYI. Kitkat didn't unvote me. So I am still wondering why those 2 ww didn't hammer me yet. Either one or both of them are already on my wagon or they're currently on the not voting crowd and doesn't want to show their hands by hammering me and ending the day early.

 

Don't understand Canik's insistence on name claiming. If it was that easy to find out who is scum by names then Kevin wouldn't have allowed mass name claiming imo. Agree with TW on this, either scum has been given fake names or good guy names can be scum as well.

 

Also I kinda agree with Kitkat on role claiming, even though I think he is shifty af. Forcing role claiming got Yehom killed. A town jailkeeper shouldn't have come forward unless he can pinpoint scum and get him lynched. Now you guys want the possible doctor to come forward too, endangering his life? He might not exist but if he does it will be stupid to claim.

I know Lach and LS are both busy with real life stuff, so I dont think thats a good reason to lynch them.  LS has been fairly inactive for a while now and Lach was in India, so on that, unless there is real evidence I am not gonna vote for either for them.   the way kitkat quickly dogpiled onto Lach after TW gave his reasoning is fairly suspicious to me

 

unvote

 

vote:  Kitkat

Anyways I am not lying about being out of country for a month, IRON members can check the Gone Fishing thread. My activity dropped across the board, not only here. Still I tried to post whenever I got the chance, but apparently asking to look at people who RCed but cannot be verified or absolutely not contributing anything otherwise, is considered distracting town. Yehom agreed too with me on that but I bet you wont consider he was distracting town too. Or our opportunist player named Kitkat who was agreeing with me on the same while ago, but somehow is onboard with TW's (same as AbT's) list and doesn't waste time or his brain cells before jumping on me.

 

So TW and AbT, if now I am back and can spend more time here, will you consider moving me up on the list and push down at least another "MIA" player LS below me? Or do you want me to RC just for the sake of it, even though it wont help town AT ALL and probably cant be verified? Also other than my activity, I would like to know what incriminating evidence you have that I am scum that you all are wasting no time putting me at L-2, 7 days before deadline, with the full knowledge that there are 2 ww left and they can hammer me anytime they want and end the day prematurely? Whats the plan then when I flip town? My wagon analysis wont give you any clue either as you guys started it.

 

 

While I'm pretty sure everyone believes you, that you got no time to contribute, it really does not change that most important fact: that you've not been contributing to much. Also:

 

 - Yes, apparently repeatedly stating that RCed people should be questioned, while you could use that time to question them yourself, but for some reason you didn't, is distraction.

 

 - Yes, I wouldn't consider to put Yehom in the same spot as you (up to this point), because even though he didn't contributed during the day talks, he was actually able to show a story that put him on the town side.

Its like, when truly 100% confirmed town starts acting scummy, he will be told to stop, yet when unconfirmed person does the same he'll get lynched (for the record it's just an example and not a precise description of the current situation). I sincerely hope you see the difference.

 

 - There's no incriminating evidence on anyone right now and if we were to vote only on such people, we'd go no lynch after no lynch and then loose a game. As a town it's your job to look for scum and at the same time being reasonable when someone is suspecting you. Sulking isn't going to take you anywhere.

 

- Since we're not in LyLo there's no way 2 ww will jump the wagon just to hammer you and end the day prematurely. They'd get themselves in a precarious situation and risk getting lynched on the next day.

 

Also I am finding it extremely laughable how AbT posts 3 questions to SM and after one post immediately clears her, without any of his questions actually being answered

 

They were answered. You should pay more attention.

 

Also now that you're being active, at this point I'm finding Kitkat to be more suitable lynch target for today.

 

unvote

 

vote: Kitkat

 

 

Don't understand Canik's insistence on name claiming. If it was that easy to find out who is scum by names then Kevin wouldn't have allowed mass name claiming imo. Agree with TW on this, either scum has been given fake names or good guy names can be scum as well.

 

Do you see any scenario where it hurts the town? If not, does it cost you anything to be kind to Canik and answer his request? We'd be much faster over this topic if everyone just give in their names.

 

 

 

Also I kinda agree with Kitkat on role claiming, even though I think he is shifty af. Forcing role claiming got Yehom killed. A town jailkeeper shouldn't have come forward unless he can pinpoint scum and get him lynched. Now you guys want the possible doctor to come forward too, endangering his life? He might not exist but if he does it will be stupid to claim.

 

While it's true, it would be even more of a shame to lynch a jailer or a doctor. Should we leave people out every scum would say: "I'm not going to do anything and I'm not going to RC, but don't question me and don't you dear to lynch me, because I might be a power role".

 

It's not possible. The only roles possible are the ones listed with the exact same alignments. Kevin said that he did not change the alignments of the listed roles. So if you believe that Samus is a 1-shot Vig it means that you believe he is also town.

 

Damn, alright. 

 

​Unvote Samus

 

​Vote Kitkat

 

​SM has a Vig gunning for her. Lach has 3 votes on him. So I'll give my attention to you, Kitkat.  

 

​How about getting us started on the name claims? I really would like the 4 unknowns + Brewers to name claim. And anyone else who hasn't. Did Jazzy?

 

​I just want the character names you were given, NOT your roles. No reason to be shy about it or hide it.. unless you're a scum without a safe name.

 

I remember Jazzy stating he's Rey.

 

As for Samus, he most probably is a town Vig. Werewolves cannot have Vig's and it would be unreasonable for him to claim one and not be able to prove it (how long could he go on saying he was blocked?). His only chance to simulate Vig would be a PGO, but since I'm alive and scum targeted Yehom at night that's not the case (that's assuming they're not foolish and yet very lucky scums). Also making a false claim is a risk of getting caught by a real PR (in this case getting shoot at night by a real Vig).

 

 

I almost refused to give you the character name, because it's less well known, and won't be believed. But on reflection, saying that it's less well known and won't be believed isn't any more helpful than just giving you it. So I'm Nien Nunb. I had to Google who that even was, and I've seen The Last Jedi more than once. :v

​Thanks, Kitkat. Some lesser known characters are to be expected and I expect you are probably telling the truth on it. 

​Unfortunately I still may have to vote for you at the end of the day. Someone's gotta get lynched. As AbT said, if we no lynch until we have solid evidence then we'll lose. But for now, I will unvote and focus on having the others name-claim.

​Unvote

​Vote Sister Midnight

​So SM, will you share your character name please?

 

Don't understand Canik's insistence on name claiming. If it was that easy to find out who is scum by names then Kevin wouldn't have allowed mass name claiming imo. Agree with TW on this, either scum has been given fake names or good guy names can be scum as well.

​I don't understand the resistence to name-claiming. And the more resistence there is the more I'm going to think I'm onto something.

 

 

It's not possible. The only roles possible are the ones listed with the exact same alignments. Kevin said that he did not change the alignments of the listed roles. So if you believe that Samus is a 1-shot Vig it means that you believe he is also town.

 

Damn, alright. 

 

​Unvote Samus

 

​Vote Kitkat

 

​SM has a Vig gunning for her. Lach has 3 votes on him. So I'll give my attention to you, Kitkat.  

 

​How about getting us started on the name claims? I really would like the 4 unknowns + Brewers to name claim. And anyone else who hasn't. Did Jazzy?

 

​I just want the character names you were given, NOT your roles. No reason to be shy about it or hide it.. unless you're a scum without a safe name.

 

 

I almost refused to give you the character name, because it's less well known, and won't be believed. But on reflection, saying that it's less well known and won't be believed isn't any more helpful than just giving you it. So I'm Nien Nunb. I had to Google who that even was, and I've seen The Last Jedi more than once. :v

 

As for roleclaiming, you can forget it, I won't do that even if I'm facing the lynch. Which I'm not, currently.

I'm sorry but how is this at all helpful to the town? I'm not pressing you for a role claim.. yet.. but you're telling us that even if you are town and about to be lynched you wouldn't tell us what you are or what information you might have? How in the heck is that a town move? Even scum fake a role claim before being lynched. At least then the town knows they were lying afterward. In your case, if you are town and you refused to role claim before your lynch, your death would literally be WORTHLESS to us. That is not a town play.

 

I think that it's more likely that the role you have is strictly a werewolf role with no possible town counterpart. Therefore you obviously can't claim it because it would give you away as a werewolf. At the same time you probably aren't ready to fake claim because you don't want to be challenged on an actually existing role.

 

I am at 4 votes FYI. Kitkat didn't unvote me. So I am still wondering why those 2 ww didn't hammer me yet. Either one or both of them are already on my wagon or they're currently on the not voting crowd and doesn't want to show their hands by hammering me and ending the day early.

 

Don't understand Canik's insistence on name claiming. If it was that easy to find out who is scum by names then Kevin wouldn't have allowed mass name claiming imo. Agree with TW on this, either scum has been given fake names or good guy names can be scum as well.

 

Also I kinda agree with Kitkat on role claiming, even though I think he is shifty af. Forcing role claiming got Yehom killed. A town jailkeeper shouldn't have come forward unless he can pinpoint scum and get him lynched. Now you guys want the possible doctor to come forward too, endangering his life? He might not exist but if he does it will be stupid to claim.

To address your paragraphs in order:

1) There is also the possibility that you are a werewolf and wouldn't hammer yourself.

2) I don't really care about Canik's insistence on name claiming to be honest. I don't think that it is going to benefit the town in any way because I'm expecting all scums have a safe claim, but it also won't hurt.

3) I am leaning heavily towards there not being a doctor in this game. If there is, he/she would certainly be targeted at night by the werewolves next, but I'm not even sure that a doctor role claiming at this point is the worst thing in the world for the town. It would be one less person on a very short possible scum list that the town needs to look at. In my mind there are only 3 people left who's role we don't know -- Yours, LordSunday's, and Kitkat's.

 

 

So I'm Nien Nunb

 

 

He was Lando's co pilot in Return of the Jedi, and flew an X-wing in The Force Awakens, but I do not remember him being in the last Jedi... 

 

Don't understand Canik's insistence on name claiming. If it was that easy to find out who is scum by names then Kevin wouldn't have allowed mass name claiming imo. Agree with TW on this, either scum has been given fake names or good guy names can be scum as well.

 

Do you see any scenario where it hurts the town? If not, does it cost you anything to be kind to Canik and answer his request? We'd be much faster over this topic if everyone just give in their names.

My name is Rose Tico.

 

 

I almost refused to give you the character name, because it's less well known, and won't be believed. But on reflection, saying that it's less well known and won't be believed isn't any more helpful than just giving you it. So I'm Nien Nunb. I had to Google who that even was, and I've seen The Last Jedi more than once. :v

​Thanks, Kitkat. Some lesser known characters are to be expected and I expect you are probably telling the truth on it. ​Unfortunately I still may have to vote for you at the end of the day. Someone's gotta get lynched. As AbT said, if we no lynch until we have solid evidence then we'll lose. But for now, I will unvote and focus on having the others name-claim.​Unvote​Vote Sister Midnight​So SM, will you share your character name please?

Don't understand Canik's insistence on name claiming. If it was that easy to find out who is scum by names then Kevin wouldn't have allowed mass name claiming imo. Agree with TW on this, either scum has been given fake names or good guy names can be scum as well.

​I don't understand the resistence to name-claiming. And the more resistence there is the more I'm going to think I'm onto something.

Why are you voting to lynch me?

 

Don't understand Canik's insistence on name claiming. If it was that easy to find out who is scum by names then Kevin wouldn't have allowed mass name claiming imo. Agree with TW on this, either scum has been given fake names or good guy names can be scum as well.

​I don't understand the resistence to name-claiming. And the more resistence there is the more I'm going to think I'm onto something.

Don't think you're onto anything but to be clear I am not resisting. I just find this whole exercise futile.

 

My character name is Commander Larma D'Acy.

 

I am on my mobile so will address the other points soon, once I am back in front of laptop.

 

 

My name is Rose Tico.

 

 

ew.  I HATE Rose

 

im sorry SM but on principal i have to do this

 

vote:  SM

 

solely for you being my least favorite character in all of star wars (yes even more so than Jar Jar Binks)

OK so SM also revealed her name. So who's left now? Brewers? What about you Canik? I am sorry if you claimed name and I somehow missed it.

 

Let's get this over with soon so that we can move on.

no

Oh yeah LS too has not revealed his name I think. Brewers will you be able to contact him so that he shows up? I think he has been gone for not sure how long but it seems to be ages. Can we get him replaced? If he cannot show up anytime soon either replace him or lynch him.

LS said he is gonna be back sunday 

 

My name is Rose Tico.

 

 

ew.  I HATE Rose

 

im sorry SM but on principal i have to do this

 

vote:  SM

 

solely for you being my least favorite character in all of star wars (yes even more so than Jar Jar Binks)

I'm assuming that you are joking and not actually intending on voting for SM. However, this isn't the time to joke vote.

 

Are you seriously voting for SM?

 

My name is Rose Tico.

 

 

ew.  I HATE Rose

 

im sorry SM but on principal i have to do this

 

vote:  SM

 

solely for you being my least favorite character in all of star wars (yes even more so than Jar Jar Binks)

OMGUS!

 

VOTE BREWSKY

Ok, seriously. Wtf???

 

UNVOTE

 

But at this point if you l6nch me you are totally screwing the town and if I do get lynched you can bet your ass there are WWs on the wagon. I fully expect to be killed tonight, don’t mak3 things even easier on scum.