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[TW-07] Pokemon Mafia - Town Wins

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I'm not desperate to lynch Kevin. I simply drew attention to stuff in your post that it was legitimate to draw attention to. Kevin is doing a good enough job at getting lynched without my help lawl. But perhaps I'm just confused here: what is the misconception that was cleared up?
 

 

I was under the impression that the only way someone could be investigated as guilty when they are on the town's side is if a framer was in play, so I thought that since I blocked Kevin he couldn't be the framer since he couldn't frame ABT that night. 

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@TW: Can a framer target himself (or herself) to be investigated innocently by a cop?

 

 

A Framer cannot self-target. A Tailor would be allowed to self-target.

 

 

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KevinH (3): Rhizoctonia, Yehom, Kitkat16

Ali bin Turban (1): KevinH

Brewersalliance (0):

Darkfox (0):

Jazzy95 (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Lachiton (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Ali bin Turban, Brewersalliance, Darkfox, Jazzy95, Lachiton, Mandarijn, SeaBeeGipson

 

With 11 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Monday, June 18th.

 

Currently in danger of mod-kill:

 

makes sense he didnt, i mean if he did, that would verify he is the sk.  and he wanted u to track him to "clear him" 

 

so since u tracked him and he didnt do anything he could claim he's not the sk, but of course he would not actually do anything....  just a set up in my opinion.  still think ABT is the sk.  but when kevin dies we might know for sure.  either way, im jailing abt tonight.  if hes the SK he cant kill, and if he's town, im protecting him, so win win :P

 

Almost a win win. If KevinH turns out to be framer that will mean Rhizo's lying (because he wouldn't be able to get guilty result then), but I realize there will be no hard proof for that and jailing me will be the best option for you.

 

However if KevinH is not a framer (and most probably he wont be) I suggest you jail one of other suspects, because jailing me won't save my ass (killer can still target SBG and take out both of us). Secondly, the moment Rhizo announced yesterday that he will investigate me, it was obvious I'll be also targeted by a framer, so we couldn't expect any other result, but guilty. Now Rhizo's announcing he'll investigate me again and if we leave kitkat/yehom unblocked we risk framer slipping through and skewing the result again.

 

And if you say a tracker on me was good enough to stop me from doing anything, then why not keep tracking?

 

Finally I think DarkFox should block Kitkat and you should block me or Yehom (whomever you like better). The reason for that is it would be strange for KevinH / Yehom to RC the same roles (both claiming bulletproof) if they were in the same team. If there's SK around surely Yehom has much higher chances (than Kitkat) to be the one. That means Kitkat is most probably holding Framer role and leaving him allone would be risky.

 

 

I don't think there's a SK in this game, seeing we have had no night with 2 kills (except when Ali killed Canik). So it's very unlikely Mafia and the SK weren't able to kill on 2+ nights. Except if the Mafia is for example Even and the SK is uneven (or the other way around)...

n1 we had no kills.  idk what happened there

n2 just one kill, but I blocked ABT.  if he was the SK i would have stopped the kill

n3 no kills, but lach did heal me.  so that could have stopped a kill. 

n4 two kills. 

n5 no kills.  if there were two, it would have 100% confirmed the SK, which the sk would not want to do.  And kevinH was role blocked, thus potentially blocking a kill

 

Plus, there is a chance we have bulletproof scum.  so that could have blocked a SK kill.  so we cant count out the possibility of a sk 

 

It's actually unknown if you successfully jailed me on N2 (unless you got confirmation from TW that your action connected), since you were roleblocked the same night by DarkFox. Fluff does not tell that you stopped Charizard that night, only that they struggled for a moment (and then he was called back by Ash).

 

 

It's actually unknown if you successfully jailed me on N2 (unless you got confirmation from TW that your action connected), since you were roleblocked the same night by DarkFox. Fluff does not tell that you stopped Charizard that night, only that they struggled for a moment (and then he was called back by Ash).
 

 

I forgot he said he rb'd me.  If he did, the I did not block you n2, as i would have been blocked myself


 

 

And if you say a tracker on me was good enough to stop me from doing anything, then why not keep tracking?
 

 

because I am going to jail you.  so if jazzy were to track you, he wouldnt get any info since you would be role blocked, and cant do anything.  so even if you are the sk and target someone he wouldnt know, and it would be a waste of his role.    he can track someone else and hopefully hit paydirt.  

 

even if youre not the sk, me being on you is better than jazzy, because if youre towm, ill be protecting you as well as blocking you ( and potentially protecting town)

Brewers- You're going to protect AbT tonight?

 

Brewers- You're going to protect AbT tonight?

are you asking for confirmation so you and your scum partners know who to target tonight? lol

 

 

Yes. Or maybe I don't want to waste a night on someone that'll be doing nothing. But who knows  :rolleyes:

I suppose the discussion is coming to an end?

(I'll say this again: Yehom and Kitkat have to be the other 2 scums)

 

Vote KevinH

 

"Have" to be? There are all sorts of possibilities, actually. Assuming AbT was framed, we know that there is either a tailor or framer in play, which calls the cop result on Darkfox into doubt. Rhizo claims to be the FBI agent but it seems unlikely there is a serial killer in play (we've had no evidence to suggest that) so there seems little need for an FBI agent. Jazzy backed him up but they could be a scum pair. I'm not saying I do think they're a scum pair, I'd have to reread this thread and think about it, but what I am saying is that you're a little too hasty in jumping to conclusions. I could provide other theories but I'll sit on those for the moment.

You're going a step to far in your assumptions. So far we know that there's a framer in play. We cannot say the same about tailor, so we have no grounds to doubt Darkfox alignment.

 

The most probable scenario (in my opinion) right now is that:

- KevinH is a scum - he's not even trying to defend himself or try to explain how did it happen that there were no kills with him being blocked. He's also claimed to be 3-shot bulletproof (doubling Yehom's claim).

- You (Kitkat) being the last mafia guy - though there's a scratch here with you voting on KevinH yesterday (the only one on his wagon). Was your vote placed that way because you knew KevinH would not get attention anyway, or because you're not in the same team?

- Yehom being SK - he claimed to be bulletproof and his character was spotted killing other pokemon in the fluff by Rhizo. He's also not helping himself by not participating.

 

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Jazzy is still uknown, he might be a scum...but in that case why would his fellow teammate (Medved) push for his lynch (last day for a moment Jazzy was the main target for lynching)?

Rhizo is also uknown. Faking FBI Agent role is possible (for example he could be a mafia watcher instead), especially given so little kills we were observing (but there can be other explanations too). If he's not lying about his role, I don't know if he can be a mafia (Mafia Wiki states it's pro-town role, but same goes for Cop or Vig, and if I'm not mistaken TW has stated roles can have different alignments). However with blocking/ tracking you and Yehom we'll get step closer to the truth with his tomorrows results.

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Bottom line is, if you want to live and help the town you need to give something more to us. Something more than just a though that someone might not be a town, because it's not really helping.

You're going a step to far in your assumptions. So far we know that there's a framer in play. We cannot say the same about tailor, so we have no grounds to doubt Darkfox alignment.

 

The most probable scenario (in my opinion) right now is that:

- KevinH is a scum - he's not even trying to defend himself or try to explain how did it happen that there were no kills with him being blocked. He's also claimed to be 3-shot bulletproof (doubling Yehom's claim).

- You (Kitkat) being the last mafia guy - though there's a scratch here with you voting on KevinH yesterday (the only one on his wagon). Was your vote placed that way because you knew KevinH would not get attention anyway, or because you're not in the same team?

- Yehom being SK - he claimed to be bulletproof and his character was spotted killing other pokemon in the fluff by Rhizo. He's also not helping himself by not participating.

 

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Jazzy is still uknown, he might be a scum...but in that case why would his fellow teammate (Medved) push for his lynch (last day for a moment Jazzy was the main target for lynching)?

Rhizo is also uknown. Faking FBI Agent role is possible (for example he could be a mafia watcher instead), especially given so little kills we were observing (but there can be other explanations too). If he's not lying about his role, I don't know if he can be a mafia (Mafia Wiki states it's pro-town role, but same goes for Cop or Vig, and if I'm not mistaken TW has stated roles can have different alignments). However with blocking/ tracking you and Yehom we'll get step closer to the truth with his tomorrows results.

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Bottom line is, if you want to live and help the town you need to give something more to us. Something more than just a though that someone might not be a town, because it's not really helping.

 

What am I supposed to give when I'm a vengeful, other than my thoughts on who might be scum? Personally I think my posts this game have actually been fairly insightful...

- KevinH is a scum - he's not even trying to defend himself or try to explain how did it happen that there were no kills with him being blocked. He's also claimed to be 3-shot bulletproof (doubling Yehom's claim).

 

Says the scum.

 

What more can I say? When I was blocked, there was nothing to block.

I thought I explained that a kill attempt on me meant there was not a kill (read Bulletproof).

 

The scum has to lynch me to kill me and that's what's going on now.

 

But that's OK, because when I'm proven town, those on my wagon will be great candidates for tomorrow's lynch.

KevinH (4): Rhizoctonia, Yehom, Kitkat16, Mandarijn,

Ali bin Turban (1): KevinH

 

Not Voting: Ali bin Turban, Brewersalliance, Darkfox, Jazzy95, Lachiton, SeaBeeGipson

 

With 11 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Monday, June 18th.

One last plea.

The deadline is in a couple hours.

 

 

But that's OK, because when I'm proven town, those on my wagon will be great candidates for tomorrow's lynch.
 

 

I do agree we have scum here....

 

KevinH (4): Rhizoctonia, Yehom, Kitkat16, Mandarijn,

 

 

Rhizo:  99% sure he is town

 

Yehom:  Extremely sure is scum... came on as vote #3 to solidify the lynch, and was probably bussing since KevinH was a forgone conclusion since the onset of the day to be lynched

 

Kitkat:  If ABT is town then I think he is also probably scum.  Brought the day close to ending early 12 hours into the day

 

Mandy: Could be either or, but leaning towards town

I can only say that I'm 100% a X-shot Bulletproof, so Kevin is lying if he's claiming to be bulletproof as well. 

I noticed how you did not say a town x-shot bulletproof.  At least you are no longer lying to us and saying you are town ;)

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Vote Count

 

KevinH (4): Rhizoctonia, Yehom, Kitkat16, Mandarijn

Ali bin Turban (1): KevinH

Brewersalliance (0):

Darkfox (0):

Jazzy95 (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Lachiton (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Ali bin Turban, Brewersalliance, Darkfox, Jazzy95, Lachiton, SeaBeeGipson

 

With 11 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Monday, June 18th.

 

Currently in danger of mod-kill:

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Ash double counted the awakening inventory he had just purchased before he tucked the bag into his backpack. "It looks like we're going to need to make a stop in Lavender Town too, Pikachu. The department store only had a few left," Ash told his companion as the elevator thundered downward. The elevator doors slid open and Ash was once again in the department store lobby. He made his way toward the main door before he stopped briefly to consult his town map.

 

"We can take the underground path east of town on route 7, past Saffron City, and it should let out on route 8, just west of Lavender Town," Ash thought to himself. Ash looked down at his watch.. 7:00pm.. "If we hurry we should be able to make Lavender Town by 10:00, Pikachu." They rushed off to the east side of town and reached the underground path as the sun dipped below the horizon. The path was a straight underground shot from Celadon City to Lavender Town. Ash and Pikachu hurried along the well-lit path without much issue.

 

After more than an hour of underground travel they could finally see the staircase at the end of the corridor that would take them up to ground level. All of a sudden a chill ran up Ash's spine. The hair on the back of his neck stood up as the lights began to flicker in the tunnel and then were extinguished. It was pitch dark. Ash couldn't even see his hand in front of his face. He stood still for a moment and listened. There was a faint commotion up ahead of them and a muffled shuffling sound was starting to get louder. Ash stood rooted to the same spot on the path floor and listened. Pikachu was holding onto Ash's ankle listening intently as well.

 

A dark, cold wind swept past Ash and Pikachu and suddenly a door burst open from the side of the path. An electrical charge lit up the path like a crack of lightning in a night sky. The thunderbolt shot past Ash who quickly turned around. The shock found it's target. A quick look of terror flashed across Ash's face as he caught the glimpse of a huge dark materialization right behind him in the path. Ash now knew that the cold air he felt was no wind at all. It was Gengar. Ash scooped up Pikachu and ducked into a doorway that branched off of the main path. Another thunderbolt lit up the path and this time Ash could see where it originated from. An Electabuzz had stepped into the main path and was locked in a battle with Gengar.

 

Ash watched as Electabuzz built up a third electrical charge. He could tell that Gengar was preparing an attack as well. The electric charge fired from Electabuzz body toward Gengar who fired back a giant dark pulse of his own. The attacks collided in the air causing a thunderous bang . The energy from the blasts shot in all directions, making contact with the Gengar and the Electabuzz and blowing them both back twenty feet. Ash heard the thud of the Pokémon hitting the floor and the tunnel was silent once again. The lights flickered back to life above them and Ash and Pikachu hurried to the staircase at the end of the corridor and exited the tunnel.

 

Lavender Town was dimly lit in it's own right and the dark specter of Pokemon Tower stood over the small town. Ash hurried off to the Pokémon Center to rest for the night.

 

 

 

KevinH (Gengar), a mafia Destiny Bond-er (Super Saint), has been knocked out on day 6.

Mandarijn (Electabuzz), a town Leer-er (Vanilla Townie), has been knocked out on day 6.

 

Vote Count

 

KevinH (4): Rhizoctonia, Yehom, Kitkat16, Mandarijn

 

 

It is now night 6. Please PM me any night actions in your personal role PM by 1:00pm CST on Wednesday, June 20th.

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