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[TW-07] Pokemon Mafia - Town Wins

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I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was.

To catch them is my real test, to maim them is my cause!

I will travel across the thread searching far and wide,

Teach the Mafia to understand, there is nowhere to hide!

Mafia!

Gotta Catch 'em all!

It's you and me, I know it's my destiny!

Mafia!

Oh, you might be my friend,

But please don't stab me in the rear end!

Mafia!

Intent so true? Our courage will pull us through,

You watch me and I'll follow you,

Mafia!

Gotta catch 'em all!

Gotta catch 'em all!

MAFIA!

 

Only the following roles may exist in this game:

Ascetic, Bodyguard, Bulletproof, Commuter, Cop, Cupid, Doctor, Enabler, FBI Agent, Flavor Cop, Follower, Framer, Friendly Neighbor, Godfather, Goon, Gunsmith, Hider, Innocent Child, Jack-of-All-Trades, Jailkeeper, Jester, Mafia Encryptor, Mason, Miller, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Ninja, Nurse, Nymphomaniac, Role Cop, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Serial Killer, Strongman, Super Saint, Tailor, Tracker, Traitor, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Vigilante, Vanilla Townie, Vengeful, Voyeur, Watcher, Watchlisted Townie, Wrong Place at the Wrong Time Townie

 

The following modifiers may also exist in this game:

Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Even/Odd Night, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Various Sanities, Weak, X-Shot

 

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Sample Role PM said:

 

You are Pidgey, a normal Pokemon. Your power is in your vote.

 

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

 

 

Players:

 

  1. Ali bin Turban
  2. Atliis (Blastoise), a Skull-Basher (Macho Cop), has been knocked out on night 4.
  3. Brewersalliance (Venusaur), a town Constrict-er (Jailkeeper), has been knocked out on night 7.
  4. Canik (Chansey), a town Heal Pulser (Doctor) has been knocked out on night 2.
  5. Colonel Medved (Rhydon), a 2-Shot Mafia Strength-er (Strongman), has been lynched on day 5.
  6. Darkfox
  7. Jazzy95
  8. KevinH (Gengar), a mafia Destiny Bond-er (Super Saint), has been knocked out on day 6.
  9. Kitkat16 (Hypno), a Mafia Confusion-er (Tailor), has been lynched on day 7.
  10. Lachiton
  11. Lord MK (Arcanine), a 1-shot town Extreme Speeder (Commuter) has been knocked out on day 4.
  12. Mandarijn (Electabuzz), a town Leer-er (Vanilla Townie), has been knocked out on day 6.
  13. Rafay (Machamp), a town Substituter (Bodyguard), has been knocked out on day 3.
  14. Rhizoctonia
  15. Samus Canik v.2 (Snorlax), a Rest-er (Ascetic), has been badly burned on night 4.
  16. SeaBeeGipson
  17. Yehom

Rules:

  • During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
  • If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
  • At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
  • If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, the player who reached that number of votes first will be lynched.
  • You may vote no lynch.
  • After the day, the game goes to night.
  • The game thread is closed during the night. The mafia may speak to each other at night.
  • All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
  • The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
  • After the night, the game goes to day.
  • All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
  • Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
  • The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
  • Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
  • You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
  • When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.

 

  • Active Participation Rule:
    All live players must make a minimum of 3 posts in the game thread per game day. Any player who does not meet the 3 post minimum on a given day will be subject to being mod-killed unless a legitimate reason for the lack of posting is communicated privately to the game mod. (In the event that something comes up that will prevent you from playing actively, please alert the mod so that a potential replacement can be found.) If multiple players have not met the post minimum on a given day, the player with the fewest overall posts will be mod-killed.

 

Game days will last seven days until there are fewer than seven players remaining. Then they will last as many days as there are players left.

Game Nights will last 48 hours.

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I cannot be scum( due to framing) and cant really be SK (seing tailor gets lynched Id bo forced to target Rhizo and not Brewers who didnt bother me).
 

 

Well there is a chance that you are still scum, I do not believe you are and it is unlikely.

 

 

 

It honestly is a shame that Darkfox decided not to roleblock me, because it would have proved my innocence more than what Jazzy can provide us with (which honestly is bugging me, because I can't do shit during night, yet he got nothing happened instead of targeted nobody). I honestly can't explain that, but maybe scum have a power left that can do things like that. 

 

 

Honestly it was going to be you but there was something Lach said on day 2 that has had me super suspicious of him, I am too lazy to go check it now but it was enough to make me do it.

 

 

Right now I am still not sure who we should worry about. Statistically we are more likely to lynch a townie than a baddie and I havent see anything substantial against Yehom. 

Side note: I'm a little confused by how brewers died. Killed by the Hypno we lynched yesterday?

So why I'm convinced Yehom is final scum.

 

1.  I brought up flavor for which him and Kevin didn't like.  Back when I started to bring up flavor and putting heat on Yehom, it was Kevin who tried to downplay it.  Suggesting I was looking too much into flavor.  As we all know, Kevin was scum

 

2.  

 

 

Colonel Medved (Rhydon), a 2-Shot Mafia Strength-er (Strongman), has been lynched on day 5.

 

Vote Count

 

Colonel Medved (6): Ali bin Turban, Mandarijn, Lachiton, Rhizoctonia, SeaBeeGipson, Darkfox

 

 

 

KevinH (Gengar), a mafia Destiny Bond-er (Super Saint), has been knocked out on day 6.

Mandarijn (Electabuzz), a town Leer-er (Vanilla Townie), has been knocked out on day 6.

 

Vote Count

 

KevinH (4): Rhizoctonia, Yehom, Kitkat16, Mandarijn

 

 

 

Kitkat16 (Hypno), a Mafia Confusion-er (Tailor), has been lynched on day 7.

 

Vote Count

 

Kitkat16 (4): SeaBeeGipson, Rhizoctonia, Ali bin Turban, Jazzy95

 

 

 

Yehom has been on a single wagon of a scum.  Not really telling when his partner Kitkat as also on the same wagon.  Seemed like they threw him under the bus.  They also know if they wanted to be apart of the wagon, they'd have to get on rather early, knowing Kevin was supersaint and the last would of been killed off.  I guess lucky for Kitkat, Mandarijn jumped on (curious what Kikat would of done had he not)

 

3.  Now Yehom is coming after me, since I started his wagon.  Me, who has been on every wagon of every scum lynched, all of which was not near the end of the wagon either.  But ok.  He also wants to claim I'm bluffing to get a multi kill of AbT/Sea, yet I stated when I got such action that it couldn't be confirmed because he could of been framed for that.


Who we have left

Me - Not confirmed, but I know I am, and my voting record and scum hunting should speak for itself

Darkfox - Confirmed town by cop, proved to RB Kitkat 2 night ago preventing a kill and leading to a successful lynch

Lach - No one has counter claimed, I believe his role, and was blocked last night and was a kill

Sea - No one has counter claimed and he in fact tried to lynch AbT and would had if Brewers didn't switch right at end of the day to MK.  Would not make since for a scum to do so, taking out himself if he was a scum Nypho, and if he was lying and was instead like a Cupid, lynching AbT and him not dying would reveal he was lying.  Town

AbT - I don't believe is scum.  Pointed out a slip up by medved that no one else did, resulting in the lynch of a scum, was part of 2/3 lynches of scum.  He also came up guilty to a cop and guilty to an SK, so he was framed at least once, which if he was scum and having Tailor, they'd make him come up town, not guilty.  I do think there's possibility that he's a SK.  

 

Jazzy - I can confirm Jazzy's role as mentioned before, as she used it on me one night.  Doesn't prove he's not scum, but my gut is saying no.

 

Kitkat16 (Hypno), a Mafia Confusion-er (Tailor), has been lynched on day 7.

 

Vote Count

 

Kitkat16 (4): SeaBeeGipson, Rhizoctonia, Ali bin Turban, Jazzy95


Side note: I'm a little confused by how brewers died. Killed by the Hypno we lynched yesterday?

 

 

My guess would be simply the fact we started to look at flavor for clues, and TW has realized this and isn't making it totally obvious.  


WTF, half my post is gone

Let's Try This Again.  Just retyped up everything that didn't post

 

So why I'm convinced Yehom is final scum.

 

1.  I brought up flavor for which him and Kevin didn't like.  Back when I started to bring up flavor and putting heat on Yehom, it was Kevin who tried to downplay it.  Suggesting I was looking too much into flavor.  As we all know, Kevin was scum

 

2.  

 

 

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Colonel Medved (Rhydon), a 2-Shot Mafia Strength-er (Strongman), has been lynched on day 5.

 

Vote Count

 

Colonel Medved (6): Ali bin Turban, Mandarijn, Lachiton, Rhizoctonia, SeaBeeGipson, Darkfox

 

 

 

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KevinH (Gengar), a mafia Destiny Bond-er (Super Saint), has been knocked out on day 6.

Mandarijn (Electabuzz), a town Leer-er (Vanilla Townie), has been knocked out on day 6.

 

Vote Count

 

KevinH (4): Rhizoctonia, Yehom, Kitkat16, Mandarijn

 

 

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Kitkat16 (Hypno), a Mafia Confusion-er (Tailor), has been lynched on day 7.

 

Vote Count

 

Kitkat16 (4): SeaBeeGipson, Rhizoctonia, Ali bin Turban, Jazzy95

 

 

 

Yehom has been on a single wagon of a scum.  Not really telling when his partner Kitkat as also on the same wagon.  Seemed like they threw him under the bus.  They also know if they wanted to be apart of the wagon, they'd have to get on rather early, knowing Kevin was supersaint and the last would of been killed off.  I guess lucky for Kitkat, Mandarijn jumped on (curious what Kikat would of done had he not)

 

3.  Now Yehom is coming after me, since I started his wagon.  Me, who has been on every wagon of every scum lynched, all of which was not near the end of the wagon either.  But ok.  He also wants to claim I'm bluffing to get a multi kill of AbT/Sea, yet I stated when I got such action that it couldn't be confirmed because he could of been framed for that.

 

 

Who we have left

 

Me - Not confirmed, but I know I am, and my voting record and scum hunting should speak for itself

Darkfox - Confirmed town by cop, proved to RB Kitkat 2 night ago preventing a kill and leading to a successful lynch

Lach - No one has counter claimed, I believe his role, and was blocked last night and was a kill

Sea - No one has counter claimed and he in fact tried to lynch AbT and would had if Brewers didn't switch right at end of the day to MK.  Would not make since for a scum to do so, taking out himself if he was a scum Nypho, and if he was lying and was instead like a Cupid, lynching AbT and him not dying would reveal he was lying.  Town

AbT - I don't believe is scum.  Pointed out a slip up by medved that no one else did, resulting in the lynch of a scum, was part of 2/3 lynches of scum.  He also came up guilty to a cop and guilty to an SK, so he was framed at least once, which if he was scum and having Tailor, they'd make him come up town, not guilty.  I do think there's possibility that he's a SK.  

 

Jazzy - I can confirm Jazzy's role as mentioned before, as he used it on me one night.  Doesn't prove he's not scum, but my gut is saying no.

Yehom - Scum

 

 

So to Darkfox's point about being statiscally more likely to lynch a town, I don't believe.  There's only two options, and Yehom IMO is looking way more suspicious.  

 

 

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If Yehom is lynched and the game continues, I think we got an SK then.

 

Possible SK:  ABT

 

AbT is the only possible SK.  I've never seen an SK that also has any other power role.  Their only power is the power to kill someone.  Jazzy I can confirm has a role as he used it on me, Darkfox RB Kitkat 2 night ago and prevented a kill, I believe Lach's claims, and SbG I believe is a Nympho (he was about to self kill himself a few days ago when lynching AbT)

 

So I ask Darkfox or Jazzy to use their ability on AbT tonight if the game continues.  Ideally I'd ask Darkfox to roleblock AbT, so I can confirm or deny is he is.  Jazzy can use his role on me if he wants to see if I visited AbT, or someone else if he thinks anyone else is worthy of following.  But to me, if this game continues after today if we lynch the final scum Yehom, it's AbT as an SK.  But at least one of you should use it on AbT, as if he's SK I'll be his target, so either you can stop it and I can confirm, or at least Jazzy can follow AbT and watch him kill me likely.  Only risk of that is if he has some Ninja ability with his SK and can't be seen doing so.  

 

 

So I ask Darkfox or Jazzy to use their ability on AbT tonight if the game continues.  Ideally I'd ask Darkfox to roleblock AbT, so I can confirm or deny is he is.  Jazzy can use his role on me if he wants to see if I visited AbT, or someone else if he thinks anyone else is worthy of following.  But to me, if this game continues after today if we lynch the final scum Yehom, it's AbT as an SK.  But at least one of you should use it on AbT, as if he's SK I'll be his target, so either you can stop it and I can confirm, or at least Jazzy can follow AbT and watch him kill me likely.  Only risk of that is if he has some Ninja ability with his SK and can't be seen doing so.  
 

 

My one issue is I still suspect Jazzy to a point. While I don't believe he is mafia your plan requires all three of us being townies. My suspicious this game have been comically wrong though.

 

So I ask Darkfox or Jazzy to use their ability on AbT tonight if the game continues.  Ideally I'd ask Darkfox to roleblock AbT, so I can confirm or deny is he is.  Jazzy can use his role on me if he wants to see if I visited AbT, or someone else if he thinks anyone else is worthy of following.  But to me, if this game continues after today if we lynch the final scum Yehom, it's AbT as an SK.  But at least one of you should use it on AbT, as if he's SK I'll be his target, so either you can stop it and I can confirm, or at least Jazzy can follow AbT and watch him kill me likely.  Only risk of that is if he has some Ninja ability with his SK and can't be seen doing so.  
 

 

My one issue is I still suspect Jazzy to a point. While I don't believe he is mafia your plan requires all three of us being townies. My suspicious this game have been comically wrong though.

 

 

If Yehom is lynched and found to scum (for which I think he will), and the game continues, I would wager it's due to an SK, not Mafia having a 5th member of it, especially considering my role being in the game.  If that's the case, I don't believe that Jazzy could possibly be the SK.  I've never seen a SK who has a power role and the ability to kill.  I can confirm without a doubt that Jazzy's power role that he claims is in fact legit.  On page 42, Jazzy reveals his night actions

 

Samus- No one

Rhizo- Rafay

Rhizo- Atliis

Lach- No one

 

 

I can confirm, and have, that I visited Rafay/Atlis on those days.  So given I know Jazzy is telling the truth about being a tracker, I don't believe there would be a tracker serial killer.  Never seen it, highly doubt it.

 

If Yehom is lynched and come up scum, and you RB AbT, and there's a kill, then at least everyone can knock off AbT as the SK.  If no kill is done, well it's likely AbT is the last one, and I'll survive the night to verify it or not.  As well as, let's say AbT isn't the SK but the SK knows you're going to block AbT, he could in fact just not kill tonight and make it look like you blocked AbT and force a mislynch.  Problem with that plan for the SK is I'll still be alive and can report that AbT came up not guilty, so we'll start tomorrow with no kills at night and one less person to suspect.  

 

It's actually quite important to know by the end of the day who you'll be blocking.  If you don't let us know, and you ended up dead, we need to know who you blocked so we know who it couldn't of been because you RB them.  I'm stating now, that I will be investigating AbT tonight (I am going to write a message to TW saying investigate AbT tonight unless I say otherwise before, in case life continues to happen so I don't miss it). 

 

For me, there's only 2 options possible to be scum:  Yehom, or Jazzy and only 1 option for SK if there's one:  AbT

 

The big vote today is Yehom or Jazzy.  Voting on belief or not there's an SK is not the play here, that's for tomorrow if we successfully lynch a scum and the game continues.

 

 

Maybe the game will end and there's no SK.  Then great, I'm merely looking at the possibility if we lynch a 4th scum what to do if that's not it for tonight.  Given my role, I don't want to take out the possibility that getting rid of the scum means it's over.  

 

That's it for me.  Need to get sleep for another 12+ hour work day in the 99 degree sun tomorrow.  Won't likely be able to respond for another 24 hours at the earliest.  Took away from the little time I had after work/before bed to post my thoughts.  

I'm still missing something. I'm assuming TW intentionally said "Nothing Happened" instead of "Did not target anyone." If intentional, who RB'd me?

 

 

 

 

Samus: Did not target anyone

Rhizo: Rafay

Rhizo: Atliis

Lach: Did not target anyone

AbT: Did not target anyone

Brewers: AbT

Yehom: Nothing Happened

So I just want to preface this by saying that when I've visited people that did nothing in the past, I received "Did not target anyone"

 

 

Last night I tracked Yehom and received "Nothing Happened"

If you're telling the truth, I guess it's a classic case of roleblocking. So scum has power to role block, which seems weird though. Not that it's not possible but having so many role blockers in the game ( I had one RB power as well) is not much believable. DarkFox can be the only candidate who fits the criteria of a scum RB but theres two problems - he was cleared by a cop the same night I got guilty result on AbT ( possibly due to tailor). So he could only be possible Godfather and not role blocker, that rules him out.

 

Ok so heres the list of players alive-

 Me - 100% town, there shouldn't be any doubts left.

DarkFox - Confirmed by cop, exposed Kitkat. I find it very unlikely that he would put his scum partner under the bus especially with two scum lynches in a row and no town kills.

SBG - I believe him. He has been on two scum wagons, was willing to sacrifice himself by lynching AbT and almost got to it if it was not for brewers switching at the last moment. If he is cupid, he would have exposed himself then and there and would have been stupid play from scum, especially for someone who has won lots of games as scum.

Rhizo - He has been one of the most vocal players in this game and on every scum wagon. There's little to suggest that he is not town, even considering his last 2 nights slip up in submitting an investigation. Since I believe him and his role, there has to be a SK.

 

 

AbT - We know now tailor interfered with my investigation on him and so he cant be mafia at least. Possibility of SK still remains but I still dont understand why didnt he kill Rhizo if thats the case.

Jazzy - While I believe he is tracker, I dont get why he chose to track brewers of all people last night and how he got nothing happened on Yehom. Maybe someone can help but what scum role or role in general can interfere with a tracker's result. I dont think he was RBed in the traditional sense. Until that part is cleared, I will put Jazzy on my suspects list.

Yehom - Not really seemed scummy to me but as I said earlier it seems like if we analyze others and eliminate all the suspects, he is likely the remaining scum.

 

With 7 players alive and possible 2 scum, so the likely breakdown is 5 town, 1 mafia and 1 SK

 

Day 8 - Mislynch and possible two kills at night

2 - town, 1 - mafia , 1 SK

Day 9 - Lynch mafia, SK wins. If we lynch SK, mafia wins.

 

So I am 100% sure SK has to kill tonight, more so if we mislynch today. So basically if we mislynch today and fail to stop at least one kill at night, town loses.

 

 

 

 

 

f Yehom is lynched and come up scum, and you RB AbT, and there's a kill, then at least everyone can knock off AbT as the SK.  If no kill is done, well it's likely AbT is the last one, and I'll survive the night to verify it or not.  As well as, let's say AbT isn't the SK but the SK knows you're going to block AbT, he could in fact just not kill tonight and make it look like you blocked AbT and force a mislynch.  Problem with that plan for the SK is I'll still be alive and can report that AbT came up not guilty, so we'll start tomorrow with no kills at night and one less person to suspect.     It's actually quite important to know by the end of the day who you'll be blocking.  If you don't let us know, and you ended up dead, we need to know who you blocked so we know who it couldn't of been because you RB them.  I'm stating now, that I will be investigating AbT tonight (I am going to write a message to TW saying investigate AbT tonight unless I say otherwise before, in case life continues to happen so I don't miss it). 
 

 

Okay lets go with your plan. I will RB abt.

I'm still missing something. I'm assuming TW intentionally said "Nothing Happened" instead of "Did not target anyone." If intentional, who RB'd me?

 

Samus: Did not target anyone

Rhizo: Rafay

Rhizo: Atliis

Lach: Did not target anyone

AbT: Did not target anyone

Brewers: AbT

Yehom: Nothing Happened

Rhizo has confirmed your actions so you have to be tracker. But what does not add up is your first investigation. Samus was ascetic and you should have gotten "Nothing happened" or "no result" or whatever other result that is different than "Did not target anyone". We need to make it straight before we can interpret your last result.

 

@TW What is the correct result tracker would receive when targeting ascetic character?

 

 

AbT - I don't believe is scum. Pointed out a slip up by medved that no one else did, resulting in the lynch of a scum, was part of 2/3 lynches of scum. He also came up guilty to a cop and guilty to an SK, so he was framed at least once, which if he was scum and having Tailor, they'd make him come up town, not guilty. I do think there's possibility that he's a SK.

 

Just one note here. If I were SK I'd kill you last night. With tailor being lynched, I was dead in the water, left without any excuses when you inevitable came up with "guilty" result. Targeting Brewers instead would make no sense. Also what were the odds you'd not investigate me for the second time? Kill Brewers and get revealed by FBI Agent today?

 

Secondly if by some strange twist of fate we don't nail remaining scum today I don't want to see you coming at me with the argument "you might be SK". You have all the tools to check me and I want you to take full responsibility for your actions. No more "he might be SK". Come back tomorrow with either "he's SK" or "he's not SK", because if, by some madness, I got lynched down the road, it'll be to easy to slip away with the excuse "not my fault, we all knew it was possible for him to be SK".


 

f Yehom is lynched and come up scum, and you RB AbT, and there's a kill, then at least everyone can knock off AbT as the SK.  If no kill is done, well it's likely AbT is the last one, and I'll survive the night to verify it or not.  As well as, let's say AbT isn't the SK but the SK knows you're going to block AbT, he could in fact just not kill tonight and make it look like you blocked AbT and force a mislynch.  Problem with that plan for the SK is I'll still be alive and can report that AbT came up not guilty, so we'll start tomorrow with no kills at night and one less person to suspect.     It's actually quite important to know by the end of the day who you'll be blocking.  If you don't let us know, and you ended up dead, we need to know who you blocked so we know who it couldn't of been because you RB them.  I'm stating now, that I will be investigating AbT tonight (I am going to write a message to TW saying investigate AbT tonight unless I say otherwise before, in case life continues to happen so I don't miss it). 
 

 

Okay lets go with your plan. I will RB abt.

 

Yep this is a good plan. No matter what happens (whether you or Rhizo or anyone else), we'll be sure I wasn't the one delivering the kill.

Anyway, there's clearly something wrong with Yehom. Only way Jazzy would get "nothing happened" is if Yehom is a Roleblocker/Rolestopper, Ascetic (if TW confirms it) or some kind of Hider/Commuter. Either way such result would not get produced by a bulletproof townie.

 

So either TW has made some mistake (don't think so) or one of the two is lying here and I don't see why Jazzy would lie.

Anyway, there's clearly something wrong with Yehom. Only way Jazzy would get "nothing happened" is if Yehom is a Roleblocker/Rolestopper, Ascetic (if TW confirms it) or some kind of Hider/Commuter. Either way such result would not get produced by a bulletproof townie.

 

So either TW has made some mistake (don't think so) or one of the two is lying here and I don't see why Jazzy would lie.

If Jazzy is telling the truth, then I think Yehom can be mafia ninja. There are already too many roleblocker roles in the game so having another one will be overkill. 

 

The only issue with Yehom being a ninja is why was Kevin and Kitkat doing the factional kills instead of him? Ninja doing the kills makes the most sense from mafia POV.

Nah, he can't be ninja. For ninja he'd have received "didn't target anyone" result (that's the point of ninja). Maybe he's ascetic bulletproof, which would suit SK well...though it's inconsistent with Jazzy's result on Samus. That's why it would be nice to know if Samus result was a mistake.

I'm still missing something. I'm assuming TW intentionally said "Nothing Happened" instead of "Did not target anyone." If intentional, who RB'd me?

 

 

 

 

Samus: Did not target anyone

Rhizo: Rafay

Rhizo: Atliis

Lach: Did not target anyone

AbT: Did not target anyone

Brewers: AbT

Yehom: Nothing Happened

Could just be an accident. Happens sometimes, not much to look into it.

 

With the tailor (KitKat), correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that like a super framer? He could have not only potentially framed AbT, but he could have also altered a scum to pop town on an investigation.

 

How many mislynches (assuming AbT and I are next on the kill wagon) do we have left?

 

I'm still missing something. I'm assuming TW intentionally said "Nothing Happened" instead of "Did not target anyone." If intentional, who RB'd me?

 

 

 

 

Samus: Did not target anyone

Rhizo: Rafay

Rhizo: Atliis

Lach: Did not target anyone

AbT: Did not target anyone

Brewers: AbT

Yehom: Nothing Happened

Could just be an accident. Happens sometimes, not much to look into it.

 

With the tailor (KitKat), correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that like a super framer? He could have not only potentially framed AbT, but he could have also altered a scum to pop town on an investigation.

 

How many mislynches (assuming AbT and I are next on the kill wagon) do we have left?

 

 

 

In regards to mis-lynches, that all depends on what the make up of the game is.  

 

If there's only 1 scum left and not another or an SK (2 mislynches)

 

7 Currently, mislynch goes to 6, if they double kill you both, that means 4T-1 scum tomorrow.  Could mislynch 1 more time and next day would be 2T-1Scum

 

If there's an SK, that all changes on who it is, and so forth.  

 

In regards to tailor, yes he could make a scum look town but that's kinda a mute point now.  The only 2 here that have Cop results on are AbT coming up guilty(Framed likely), and Darkfox coming up not guilty.  Given that Darkfox blocked Kitkat 2 nights ago, preventing a kill and helping us lynch Kitkat yesterday, I believe he is town.  Plus Darkfox came up not guilty the same night AbT was likely framed, so even more reason to believe he's town.  So nothing really to look at with Tailor aspect.

 

AbT - I don't believe is scum. Pointed out a slip up by medved that no one else did, resulting in the lynch of a scum, was part of 2/3 lynches of scum. He also came up guilty to a cop and guilty to an SK, so he was framed at least once, which if he was scum and having Tailor, they'd make him come up town, not guilty. I do think there's possibility that he's a SK.

 

Just one note here. If I were SK I'd kill you last night. With tailor being lynched, I was dead in the water, left without any excuses when you inevitable came up with "guilty" result. Targeting Brewers instead would make no sense. Also what were the odds you'd not investigate me for the second time? Kill Brewers and get revealed by FBI Agent today?

 

Secondly if by some strange twist of fate we don't nail remaining scum today I don't want to see you coming at me with the argument "you might be SK". You have all the tools to check me and I want you to take full responsibility for your actions. No more "he might be SK". Come back tomorrow with either "he's SK" or "he's not SK", because if, by some madness, I got lynched down the road, it'll be to easy to slip away with the excuse "not my fault, we all knew it was possible for him to be SK".

 

f Yehom is lynched and come up scum, and you RB AbT, and there's a kill, then at least everyone can knock off AbT as the SK.  If no kill is done, well it's likely AbT is the last one, and I'll survive the night to verify it or not.  As well as, let's say AbT isn't the SK but the SK knows you're going to block AbT, he could in fact just not kill tonight and make it look like you blocked AbT and force a mislynch.  Problem with that plan for the SK is I'll still be alive and can report that AbT came up not guilty, so we'll start tomorrow with no kills at night and one less person to suspect.     It's actually quite important to know by the end of the day who you'll be blocking.  If you don't let us know, and you ended up dead, we need to know who you blocked so we know who it couldn't of been because you RB them.  I'm stating now, that I will be investigating AbT tonight (I am going to write a message to TW saying investigate AbT tonight unless I say otherwise before, in case life continues to happen so I don't miss it). 
 

 

Okay lets go with your plan. I will RB abt.

 

Yep this is a good plan. No matter what happens (whether you or Rhizo or anyone else), we'll be sure I wasn't the one delivering the kill.

 

 

 

I would agree with your sentiment that if you were, the logical move would be to kill me last night.  You would have no idea I'd forget to do my power, and not killing me if you were SK would mean I'd be around tomorrow to tell everyone.  That being said, with my role, I have to not fully eliminate the possibility there's a SK.  Thus I tried to explain my reasoning why I feel you're the only possible person, given that I've never seen a SK with also another role and everyone else's role is basically verified (know Jazzy is tracker, Lach's RC seems legit, Sea was willing to die to lynch you, Darkfox RB kitkat, Yehom could be, but I think more likely scum) for most part or believable.  You claim a 1 shot Vig, which could be an easy role to hide an SK kill with.  Only role I think personally could accompany a SK would be Ninja/Strongman.  

 

Unless you were a Godfather type SK, that would come up not guilty to my investigation(unless framed) could I see you wanting me alive to tell everyone.  But if that's the case, then I would have major issues with TW's setup if a SK can't be found guilty by the only role possible to.  Would be stupid.   

 

That being said, siding on the safe side to get the best answer come tomorrow if we lynch last scum and the game continues is why I am asking Darkfox to block you (you have no claimed role to use) and me investigating.  I'm well aware of my fuck up already, given not having the answer already for you due to real life.  Especially given I've been hard on Rafay/MK purposely basically throwing, and being hard on your possible innocent mistake about Cupid early on.   No one is more pissed at me more about it then myself, thus asking if a replacement could be found (doubtful) is only thing I could think of because I don't like to be the cause of ruining a game.  I'm trying to at least use the little free time to post and put down my feelings given my screw up.  

Probably not much to talk about. I don't see anything spectacular happening that will change our views. Possible inconsistency in Jazzy's result on Samus is actually not that important, since Jazzy is confirmed tracker.

 

I don't expect there are more than 4 scum in this game (especially when considering supersaint + nympho free kills) and Yehom is the best target right now.

 

vote Yehom

Best case scenario Yehom is a scum and his lynch will end the game.

 

Worst case scenario he's town and we'll get to play another day. In that case keep in mind not to vote anyone until we make a solid plan on what to do (with few players left it's easier for scum to suddenly end the day). 

Also during the night:

 - DarkFox, as mentioned is blocking me

 - Rhizo is investigating me

 - Jazzy should track Rhizo (last possible target to track, since everyone else is either confirmed town or is being blocked).

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