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[Sister Midnight]

Ok, just re-watched scenes from next week. Arya is getting kissed. Euron Grayjoy Is kneeling before Circei.

Ghost and Rheagal are both Alive, both in the trailer for next weekAlso Jon is now the better favorite to sit on the iron throneWhich makes sense since him being a Targaryen had no point in the great war which I'm pretty sure everyone thought it would...

Otherwise what's the point, other than to add more incest to the show lol

Well he did get a dragon ride.

[Imran Ehsan]

I have no problem with Arya killing the Knight King. My issue is how it went down. He is supposed to be this bad ass and he goes out like a bitch. Also how she got to him makes zero sense. One of the 20 white walkers or billion standing all around him would have seen her... I don't care how skilled she is... Plus she struggled to get away from a handful of the dead...
Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it and it was awesome, but with all the hype it had, it left me feeling dissapointed.

And now we are stuck with three weeks of Euron Grayjoy...

 

I doubt the Night King/Others story arc is over and done with and what we have left is internal squabbles for the throne and a final showdown with Cersei. This will be very very disappointing if that is the case. I highly doubt GRRM had this ending planned out..so unless the TV show writers completely ignored GRRM's plot, I am pretty sure there will be more to it.

 

For example, it was never really explained why the Night King wanted to kill Bran so much. What was Bran's role in all this? He had zero effect in the battle..what made him so important that he had to be killed? Where was he warging to during the whole of the battle. There were theories around about Bran = NK which may still hold some water. Anyway, hopefully there are still some twists in the story remaining, or this season will be the biggest let-down in the history of tv shows. 

[Samus]

 

I have no problem with Arya killing the Knight King. My issue is how it went down. He is supposed to be this bad ass and he goes out like a bitch. Also how she got to him makes zero sense. One of the 20 white walkers or billion standing all around him would have seen her... I don't care how skilled she is... Plus she struggled to get away from a handful of the dead...
Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it and it was awesome, but with all the hype it had, it left me feeling dissapointed.

And now we are stuck with three weeks of Euron Grayjoy...

 

I doubt the Night King/Others story arc is over and done with and what we have left is internal squabbles for the throne and a final showdown with Cersei. This will be very very disappointing if that is the case. I highly doubt GRRM had this ending planned out..so unless the TV show writers completely ignored GRRM's plot, I am pretty sure there will be more to it.

 

For example, it was never really explained why the Night King wanted to kill Bran so much. What was Bran's role in all this? He had zero effect in the battle..what made him so important that he had to be killed? Where was he warging to during the whole of the battle. There were theories around about Bran = NK which may still hold some water. Anyway, hopefully there are still some twists in the story remaining, or this season will be the biggest let-down in the history of tv shows. 

 

I heard a prequel is coming along, explaning NK's motivations, Starks alliances, Lannisters come up etc

[Imran Ehsan]

Well even then what was the whole point of the bran story line. Why did he have to go over the wall. Why did meera and jojen sacrifice their lives to save him. Why get all that power of seeing the past and basically do nothing with it. The only thing of inerest he actually did was confirm that Jon is not a bastard. Otherwise he had no role in fighting the others. Huge disappointing plot hole if all that was for nothing.

[brewersalliance]

Well even then what was the whole point of the bran story line. Why did he have to go over the wall. Why did meera and jojen sacrifice their lives to save him. Why get all that power of seeing the past and basically do nothing with it. The only thing of inerest he actually did was confirm that Jon is not a bastard. Otherwise he had no role in fighting the others. Huge disappointing plot hole if all that was for nothing.

again, the lack of source materials... the writers of the show are trash without books to go off. sure GRRM give them outlines, but the actual writing has been sub-par recently

[Lysistrata]

I heard a prequel is coming along, explaning NK's motivations, Starks alliances, Lannisters come up etc

Yes it's happening. D.B. Weiss and David Benioff will not be associated with it. Naomi Watts will be the lead character. It takes place 10,000 years before Game of Thrones, and I think it's about the time the wall was built. GRRM is heavily involved and has suggested the series be called "The Long Night".

Well even then what was the whole point of the bran story line. Why did he have to go over the wall. Why did meera and jojen sacrifice their lives to save him. Why get all that power of seeing the past and basically do nothing with it. The only thing of inerest he actually did was confirm that Jon is not a bastard. Otherwise he had no role in fighting the others. Huge disappointing plot hole if all that was for nothing.

It's not over yet. Bran had to go where the 3 Eyed Raven was to become the 3 Eyed Raven. How I understand it, Jojen was a worg that was sent to Bran from the 3 Eyed Raven to escort him. As far as I know, Meera is still alive.

again, the lack of source materials... the writers of the show are trash without books to go off. sure GRRM give them outlines, but the actual writing has been sub-par recently

I do not agree... GoT is hands down the best series ever. GRRM told Benioff and Weiss everything they needed to know to finish the series long before they started. 3 episodes to go, and I'll save any criticism I have after I have seen the entire season.

[Imran Ehsan]

I will just leave these here:

 

Dany's visions of Red Keep broken and covered in ice: 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gulVUWrADCM

 

Bran's vision of Red Keep [1.15 min mark]

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gh0-4hOzyw

[Lysistrata]

I will just leave these here:

 

Dany's visions of Red Keep broken and covered in ice: 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gulVUWrADCM

 

Bran's vision of Red Keep [1.15 min mark]

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gh0-4hOzyw

I haven't read the books, so I don't know how the visions are covered, but I have always thought the visions were created by Pyat Pree in the House of the Undying, as a distraction to keep her there... to keep Dany from seeking an escape.

 

Bran's vision doesn't really make sense to me. As far as I know, Bran can only visit the past.

[Sister Midnight]

Ozzyman reviews GoT. He’s spot on and hilarious.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xi-dv37e8AY

[Lysistrata]

Ozzyman reviews GoT. He’s spot on and hilarious.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xi-dv37e8AY

I really enjoyed that... Thank you Sister!

[brewersalliance]

why didnt Cersei just win the war?  There were what? like 50 men left?  this writing is driving me up a wall

[Lysistrata]

why didnt Cersei just win the war?  There were what? like 50 men left?  this writing is driving me up a wall

Dividing their forces with no reconnaissance, with the intention to attack a stronger force at a fortified defensive position.

 

Such brilliant strategic military minds at work... I must conclude that it's in the script.

[brewersalliance]

 

why didnt Cersei just win the war?  There were what? like 50 men left?  this writing is driving me up a wall

Dividing their forces with no reconnaissance, with the intention to attack a stronger force at a fortified defensive position.

 

Such brilliant strategic military minds at work... I must conclude that it's in the script.

 

this is by far the worst season.  The writing is suffering because of the lack of source materials and the fact that HBO cut the number of episodes so everything is rushed and its causing illogical sequences.

 

Like how tf did Missandei get captured?  they were like a half mile from Euron's fleet.  Did she swim the wrong way or something?

 

this season better not win a single emmy 

[Lysistrata]

Like how tf did Missandei get captured? they were like a half mile from Euron's fleet. Did she swim the wrong way or something?

That was my first thought. Grey Worm was so busy doing... I just can't think of a single thing... well anyway, he was too busy dodging giant ballistae bolts to keep track of the most important person in his life. The way things are going, it looks like Arya will be using Qyburn's face to stick that valyrian steel dagger in her heart. Why would Brienne allow Jamie to return to Cersei? How could Bronn just walk in, punch the Hand of the Queen in the face, and threaten to kill him if he doesn't hand over a castle, and then walk out. I think that would have been the time I had him arrested and summarily executed.

[Sister Midnight]

Ozzyman again: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_uNgQ-lK9ks

And this episode is why you shoot when you have the leaders of the revolution all lined up in front of you within arrow’s range, without their dragon, telling you to give back your hostage and surrender unconditionally - you shoot the heck out of them.

I thought the cinematography was glorious in this episode. Dani, got to kill Cersei and Jamie, which was fine by me. I thought Jamie was going south to kill Cersei, but it was never certain.

Jon will probably not be changing his mind about not screwing Auntie D in future, but I don’t see him killing Dani. Will Arya do it? Will Tyrian do it? Will Davos do it? Will she simply be queen? Is there even an IRON throne left to sit on?

What is Davos smuggling for Tyrian?

Trailer for next week told us exactly nothing.

[Lysistrata]

What is Davos smuggling for Tyrian?

I believe Davos smuggled Jaime out, and left a boat for Jaime and Cersei to escape in. They could not get to it.

 

Dany went total Mad King... Jon will turn on her, and Arya will kill her after what she went through. That was the "Holy Shit" episode.

[Fermion]

This episode was a cluster fuck. Hate what the lazy writers and show-runners have done to GoT. Most fan fictions are better than what we're getting. And then actors like Kit come up and say they're the biggest fans and basically try to disregard critics. You're not, Kit; neither are the show writers if this is what they're coming up with for the finale of arguably a decade defining TV series. Jon snow's character was ass fucked, so was Tyrion, Euron, Stannis, Little finger, and so many others. Some people didn't watch the TV series at all. They had the right of it. If a series with this much money behind it could be fucked so bad, what hope do the others have

I think it's a waste to theorise about the coming episode. The writers seemed more preoccupied with subverting expectations than actual storytelling. Jon will probably get the throne. He has the loyalty of the North, the Vale, and the river lands probably. I fail to see how his claim could help him now. I hope he's the one that kills Dany, not stealthy!Arya or some poison.

[Sister Midnight]

This episode was a cluster fuck. Hate what the lazy writers and show-runners have done to GoT. Most fan fictions are better than what we're getting. And then actors like Kit come up and say they're the biggest fans and basically try to disregard critics. You're not, Kit; neither are the show writers if this is what they're coming up with for the finale of arguably a decade defining TV series. Jon snow's character was ass fucked, so was Tyrion, Euron, Stannis, Little finger, and so many others. Some people didn't watch the TV series at all. They had the right of it. If a series with this much money behind it could be fucked so bad, what hope do the others have

I think it's a waste to theorise about the coming episode. The writers seemed more preoccupied with subverting expectations than actual storytelling. Jon will probably get the throne. He has the loyalty of the North, the Vale, and the river lands probably. I fail to see how his claim could help him now. I hope he's the one that kills Dany, not stealthy!Arya or some poison.

I agree this is a disappointing ending, but most shows seem to end badly. There are too many threads to tie, or the writers got burnt out, or the smoke monster was a pissed off, shape shifting guy with *issues* - oh wait, that was Lost.

Seriously, there’s no way they could satisfy everyone, but I think the characters have stayed largely true to themselves. Dani has done some really fucked up crap in almost every country she’s stayed in. Jamie just couldn’t not love Cersei and be there for her. The Cleganes are Cleg-gone now, although Gregor, The Mountain, was turned into a Frankenstein monster and I wonder if he’s unkillable. Of course he’s dead, but a girl can wonder. Sandor is a cuddly puppy at heart, nice moment with Arya.

Euron got blasted straight on by a dragon, didn’t burn, and swam to shore at just the right place and time to fight Jamie??? Yeah, okay, whatever.

Be kinda fun if Dani told Drogon to “draconus” Jon, but Drogon refused to kill his first cousin.

Tyrian would be a better king than Jon because Jon is just too foolish and doesn’t learn. He broods really well, though. Does Westeros want a not too bright, but handsome, emo king? Probably. And he does have the strongest claim to the throne he would prefer not to have.

I liked they had flashes of green quick fire in the cinematography, forgot to mention all this before.

[Lysistrata]

This episode was a cluster fuck. Hate what the lazy writers and show-runners have done to GoT.

I have never read any of the books... I'm all about the show. It's long past up the books, so I really don't care how much it sticks to the source material at this point. The actions of the characters are pretty much in line with the way they have always been throughout the show. Daenerys has always tried to not be her father, completely because she always had trusted advisors to calm her worst impulses. All her most trusted friends are now dead, and she is her fathers daughter. She turned into him when faced with the people not embracing her as their ruler, and it was her family that built Kings Landing, so in her mind, it's only fitting that she destroy it along with all the people that took it from her. "With fire and blood, I will take it". She needed Daario... she made him stay in Meereen.

 

The only play for her I see where she lives, is to take her remaining dragon, Unsullied, and Dothraki back home. If she doesn't, she's gonna die. She killed hundreds of thousands of just common people... Jon will not follow her now, and Arya and Sansa didn't trust her from the start. She leaves Westeros, or she dies.

 

I still need to know what Bran, the Night King, the children, and all these gods... the old and the new, have to do with this entire saga.

[Samus]

I hear there's gonna be a bonus episode and a prequel is planned to explain all the other stuff