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[BA-02] A Clash of Kings Mafia- TOWN, JESTER AND SURVIVOR WINS

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From mafiascum.net:

 

Closed Setup

A Closed Setup is one where the roles are not known to the players beforehand. This is the most common type of game.

 

So we don't know the possible roles, so what?

 

A player that was lynched is alive again.  Consider a few possibilities from mafiascum.net:

 

Reviver

A reviver can either refer to a player who can bring dead players back into the game

Lynchproof

A Lynchproof player is a player who is resistant to being lynched.

Deathproof

A Deathproof player cannot be killed or lynched.

 

And there's nothing that says the only roles possible are from those listed on mafiascum.net

 

I like the game and the twists.

 

Pretty much like the TV show

 

 

 

I just had a hunch that iSoc was scum.

That's why I voted for him.

You are actually trying very hard to get lynched, aren’t you?

Why do you think MK is trying to lynch you?

I think SM meant he is trying very hard to get himself lynched

 

 

 

 

 

I just had a hunch that iSoc was scum.

That's why I voted for him.

You are actually trying very hard to get lynched, aren’t you?

Why do you think MK is trying to lynch you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just had a hunch that iSoc was scum.

That's why I voted for him.

You are actually trying very hard to get lynched, aren’t you?

Why do you think MK is trying to lynch you?
I think SM meant he is trying very hard to get himself lynched
WP is correct. See below.

 

I have a theory. There’s a bandwagon on MK. I don’t think he’s scum, but I suspect there may be a jester. I suspect this because it is the kind of thing that Brewsky would be itching to make use of, and because he got touchy when I jokingly asked someone in the game message thread if they were trying to get mod killed. On top of that, MK’ is acting like he wants to get lynched. Thoughts?

 

I think no one saw this for some reason.

iSocalism, Rakharo, a 1 Shot Paranoid Gun Owner was lynched d1.

 

Lachiton, Sandor Clegane (Jack of All trades) Died N1

Rafay, Lord Varys (Watcher) Died N1

Velocity, Davos Seaworth(Cop) and member of the Westerosi Mafia Died N1

 

 Four roles revealed and nothing vanilla.

 

i am not scum.

Trust me.

I am just a ordinary vT.

 

I don't believe that MK is just an ordinary Vanilla Townie.

Maybe he means that VT stands for Vengeful Trator.

The way this wagon is forming on MK I'm inclined to believe he is town or not a mafia faction. Everyone wants a piece of MK it seems.

 

If I was scum and an easy wagon existed, I'd try to place myself near the middle of the vote list.

 

Vote Nadaar

 

She voted and seems to have been a less vocal participate in my opinion on the wagon exactly where I'd be as scum.

Addition: she posted as I did.

 

Still vote stands

Yea the lynch over trial by combat was a very poor choice.  I'm just wondering if it was done on purpose or MK didn't really see about ending day early.  

 

My suspicion still lies on who I voted for D1, TW.

 

He was overly trying to act town D1 when no one knew anything, pushed the lynch of Isocialism who we know is town, and now wants Isocialism to reveal more information about himself that scum would enjoy knowing.  If Isocialism had anything to supply that's beneficial to town I'm sure he would, you hounding him about information and getting upset he won't tell you after you were a reason he got lynched in the first place is just as telling.

 

Vote:  TW

Do yall want to flat out lynck MK or send him to Trial by Combat?

I imagine most would rather lynch MK, Sister Midnight might want Trial by Combat more as she believes he might be a Jester. But there is a chance MK makes it out of Trial by Combat and is alive tomorrow. 

 

He's created a huge controversy now and doesn't honesty seem to care. 

 

Do yall want to flat out lynck MK or send him to Trial by Combat?

I imagine most would rather lynch MK, Sister Midnight might want Trial by Combat more as she believes he might be a Jester. But there is a chance MK makes it out of Trial by Combat and is alive tomorrow. 

 

He's created a huge controversy now and doesn't honesty seem to care. 

 

 

That makes sense. I have never done a mafia like this so I am slightly confused about how to play with a trial by combat. I might very well be wrong, but it honestly feels like MK is saying screw this game. I am starting to learn toward jester because of the havoc he is unleashing upon us. Either way, I feel like he is a good choice for today's FOS.

Yea the lynch over trial by combat was a very poor choice.  I'm just wondering if it was done on purpose or MK didn't really see about ending day early.  

 

My suspicion still lies on who I voted for D1, TW.

 

He was overly trying to act town D1 when no one knew anything, pushed the lynch of Isocialism who we know is town, and now wants Isocialism to reveal more information about himself that scum would enjoy knowing.  If Isocialism had anything to supply that's beneficial to town I'm sure he would, you hounding him about information and getting upset he won't tell you after you were a reason he got lynched in the first place is just as telling.

 

Vote:  TW

I pushed for iSocialism yesterday because his response was very nonchalant in my opinion. If iSoc would have come out and responded by asking a single question.. of anyone.. other than basically saying "day 1 is all bullshit we can't learn anything anyway", I would have unvoted for him immediately. His response to me seemed like he didn't care about getting anyone to talk at all. Now, perhaps anything else that might have been said would have been more bullshit, but getting people to talk is the only thing we have to go off of on a day 1 where no lynch isn't an option.

 

As for today, I asked iSocialism a simple question about what happened last night. Maybe it's just me but I find it to be completely reasonable to ask a person that was lynched, was confirmed lynched by the game mod, and then was all of a sudden alive the next day, how they were still alive. The answer to that question IS important to the town. In my opinion, Game of thrones lore leaves open the possibility for this odd mechanic to be used in an anti-town way. As I pointed out, unless properly disposed of, a dead body can be resurrected by the Night King and converted to a white walker. If you know anything about Game of Thrones, which I think you do, you can see how that could equate to iSoc possibly being resurrected as an anti-town player. I think asking for more information from a now known townie is reasonable..

 

“I try to know as many people as I can. You never know which one you’ll need.”

 

Having said that, I stopped questioning iSoc after he made this post:

 

Vote MK

 

He knew he was putting me to lynch regardless if the day was going to end early. The objective was to lynch not trail by combat.

 

I don't think I have hinted at a new role, Investigating me won't do a whole lot either. It won't tell you why I'm "still alive for Pete sakes". This could have been a flavor in brewer's other game but we didn't lynch day one.

 

I'm alive not dead, the only thing to worry about is winning this game

 

 

In fact, several posts later I posted this in response to CM who continued pressing iSoc:

 

 

 

 

Was brewers serious though?

He killed iSoc and ended the day instantly.. I’d say he was serious.

But he resurrected him.

So it's everyone's fault.

.

 

And why is brewers playing?

 

Also, vote count please.

I want to see who else is being voted on.

 

I highly doubt Brewers resurrected iSoc as a way to makeup for the fact that he mod-killed him. It's highly more likely that it was part of the game design that the first player to be lynched would be resurrected as a way to fit the GoT narrative or the dead needing to be "burned" or they could be resurrected by the Night King.

 

Vote MK

 

He knew he was putting me to lynch regardless if the day was going to end early. The objective was to lynch not trail by combat.

 

I don't think I have hinted at a new role, Investigating me won't do a whole lot either. It won't tell you why I'm "still alive for Pete sakes". This could have been a flavor in brewer's other game but we didn't lynch day one.

 

I'm alive not dead, the only thing to worry about is winning this game

I agree with you. MK was completely reckless and doesn't seem to care.

 

If we lynch early we are making a very stupid mistake.

We should definitely NOT end the day early. More time only helps town. The only reason I haven't voted for MK yet myself is that I don't want an early lynch and he's already in line to be lynched at deadline.

 

 

Vote MK

 

He knew he was putting me to lynch regardless if the day was going to end early. The objective was to lynch not trail by combat.

 

I don't think I have hinted at a new role, Investigating me won't do a whole lot either. It won't tell you why I'm "still alive for Pete sakes". This could have been a flavor in brewer's other game but we didn't lynch day one.

 

I'm alive not dead, the only thing to worry about is winning this game

 

Your unwillingness to cooperate with town is unsettling. To win the game, you need information to aid you. You have decided to withhold the information about your revival and what that makes you, that leads me to believe that maybe you don't want to reveal it because you could have been made scum.

 

I'm not saying MK is in the right, i definitely am with everyone else on that he used it to end the day, and hammer vote you. But i don't see why the rest of town has to suffer due to it. If you are truly town, why wouldn't you want to give your fellow townies information to help win the game?

 

It could have been handled better but I am hoping that iSoc's above post is actually telling us what he knows. It is possible that he had no idea this would happen until Brewers presumably told him he was alive again in his role PM. In my mind there are two possibilities for what is happening:

 

1) iSoc is indeed town still and Brewers just used this 1-time mechanic as a GoT easter egg.

2) iSoc was resurrected as a member of the scum team which of course he wouldn't disclose to the town.

 

I'm willing to trust iSoc is town again for now. We'll see if it gets to the point that we need to lynch him again later to verify though.

That's hardly me pressing iSoc further for information. 

 

 

 

 

Do yall want to flat out lynck MK or send him to Trial by Combat?

I imagine most would rather lynch MK, Sister Midnight might want Trial by Combat more as she believes he might be a Jester. But there is a chance MK makes it out of Trial by Combat and is alive tomorrow. 

 

He's created a huge controversy now and doesn't honesty seem to care. 

The worst part about it is that even if he is town he probably doesn't care.

Maybe he doesn't know, maybe reanimation also means temporary memory loss and he won't know his role til the next day, it's only a guess but would explain his air of nonchalance.

It might be more selfish play then anything, but he doesn't seem to care what happens. 

 

This is MK in every single mafia game I've seen though... He gets put up to lynch for completely reasonable factors and immediately goes nuclear on how we're all the idiots. At this point I wouldn't be surprised with any result. He could be a jester sure, but this is so typical of him that he could easily be town at the same town. We all know he's lied about his role as a townie about to die before :rolleyes:

 

 

It might be more selfish play then anything, but he doesn't seem to care what happens.

This is MK in every single mafia game I've seen though... He gets put up to lynch for completely reasonable factors and immediately goes nuclear on how we're all the idiots. At this point I wouldn't be surprised with any result. He could be a jester sure, but this is so typical of him that he could easily be town at the same town. We all know he's lied about his role as a townie about to die before :rolleyes:
But this time, i am not going to go nuclear.

I am not going to try and save myself.

You guys already made up your mind.

I can't change that, if i can change people's minds, i would have been the president of my country by now.

 

 

It might be more selfish play then anything, but he doesn't seem to care what happens.

This is MK in every single mafia game I've seen though... He gets put up to lynch for completely reasonable factors and immediately goes nuclear on how we're all the idiots. At this point I wouldn't be surprised with any result. He could be a jester sure, but this is so typical of him that he could easily be town at the same town. We all know he's lied about his role as a townie about to die before :rolleyes:
But this time, i am not going to go nuclear.

I am not going to try and save myself.

You guys already made up your mind.

I can't change that, if i can change people's minds, i would have been the president of my country by now.

 

 

Let me rephrase... We're at the curl up and give up stage... Because there's totally been no games ever where someone was a sure lynch and didn't get killed... Oh wait, I'm pretty sure that exact same thing happened before, to me in fact :lol:

 

I'd even go so far to say that situation was worse because there was literal evidence that screamed to lynch me and I still didn't get killed because I knew I was town and stuck to the truth. The fact you're giving up and are in simply a case of you need to drop one or two votes and you're fine yet you pout like this makes me think even more that you just want to be lynched and have some jester role.

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