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[BA-02] A Clash of Kings Mafia- TOWN, JESTER AND SURVIVOR WINS

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It usually happens when he's up against it and it's incredibly frustrating. Any reasonable person should try to defend themselves from a lynch. FFS if you are town, you owe it to the town to try to save yourself. Fucking role claim if you don't have any other choice and absolutely have to. Just try to help the town.

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It usually happens when he's up against it and it's incredibly frustrating. Any reasonable person should try to defend themselves from a lynch. FFS if you are town, you owe it to the town to try to save yourself. Fucking role claim if you don't have any other choice and absolutely have to. Just try to help the town.

 

9/10 he'll claim a different role from the first time that is even less believable and then when he dies he'll have a role that's town but isn't either of the two roles he said.

 

@MK there's something to be said about trends. Most players here have came to expect this... If you actually put effort into showing you are town and stop going belly-up after you get more than 3 or 4 votes on you, you probably wouldn't end up lynched in most of these situations.

 

 

It usually happens when he's up against it and it's incredibly frustrating. Any reasonable person should try to defend themselves from a lynch. FFS if you are town, you owe it to the town to try to save yourself. Fucking role claim if you don't have any other choice and absolutely have to. Just try to help the town.

9/10 he'll claim a different role from the first time that is even less believable and then when he dies he'll have a role that's town but isn't either of the two roles he said.

 

@MK there's something to be said about trends. Most players here have came to expect this... If you actually put effort into showing you are town and stop going belly-up after you get more than 3 or 4 votes on you, you probably wouldn't end up lynched in most of these situations.

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Trial by combat was the next-best alternative to no-lynch.

 

Now that we are in Day 2, we need to start lynching.

 

Subjecting a candidate to a random chance doesn't give us much information.

 

(unless you believe in the "fate" determined by randomness)

Trial by combat was the next-best alternative to no-lynch.

 

Now that we are in Day 2, we need to start lynching.

 

Subjecting a candidate to a random chance doesn't give us much information.

 

(unless you believe in the "fate" determined by randomness)

 

I agree, a lynch is needed. Especially since we don't have anyone coming forward with info and the mafia can run rampant so long as this goes on.

Just read up the last 13 pages. Game has been chaos so far. What I can tell for now is that: 

 

- there is more than likely 2 enemy (no-townie) factions, can be 2 mafia's, can be 1 mafia and 1 SK, time will tell. 

- MK is acting suspect for sure, whatever he flops if he does get lynched, I'm interested in how SM is going to play out the rest of the game, because she is very soft-spokenly defending him, pointing out that MK could be a Jester is too easy

- TW has been very vocal as Rhizo has rightly pointed out, no sure what to make of it just now, doesn't help that iSoc turned up town the first time

- speaking of which, I can't quite make out what happened to iSoc during the night, could be a PR doing, but Brewers specifically told us that it was a one time thing, so I'm more leaning towards a modifier. However it still raises the question whether or not iSoc allegiance stayed town or not. 

 

By the way I would like to clarify one thing in advance: I do not watch Game of Thrones and thus do not know any references to the show. In case there are things that happen in this game that would make sense in from the shows perspective, please explain it to me like I'm a five year old

Just read up the last 13 pages. Game has been chaos so far. What I can tell for now is that:

 

- there is more than likely 2 enemy (no-townie) factions, can be 2 mafia's, can be 1 mafia and 1 SK, time will tell.

- MK is acting suspect for sure, whatever he flops if he does get lynched, I'm interested in how SM is going to play out the rest of the game, because she is very soft-spokenly defending him, pointing out that MK could be a Jester is too easy

- TW has been very vocal as Rhizo has rightly pointed out, no sure what to make of it just now, doesn't help that iSoc turned up town the first time

- speaking of which, I can't quite make out what happened to iSoc during the night, could be a PR doing, but Brewers specifically told us that it was a one time thing, so I'm more leaning towards a modifier. However it still raises the question whether or not iSoc allegiance stayed town or not.

 

By the way I would like to clarify one thing in advance: I do not watch Game of Thrones and thus do not know any references to the show. In case there are things that happen in this game that would make sense in from the shows perspective, please explain it to me like I'm a five year old

The first thing is iSoc's death.

That's a white walker thingy.

There's a king called Night King who commands the dead.

So that mechanic resurrected iSoc.

Just read up the last 13 pages. Game has been chaos so far. What I can tell for now is that: 

 

- there is more than likely 2 enemy (no-townie) factions, can be 2 mafia's, can be 1 mafia and 1 SK, time will tell. 

- MK is acting suspect for sure, whatever he flops if he does get lynched, I'm interested in how SM is going to play out the rest of the game, because she is very soft-spokenly defending him, pointing out that MK could be a Jester is too easy

- TW has been very vocal as Rhizo has rightly pointed out, no sure what to make of it just now, doesn't help that iSoc turned up town the first time

- speaking of which, I can't quite make out what happened to iSoc during the night, could be a PR doing, but Brewers specifically told us that it was a one time thing, so I'm more leaning towards a modifier. However it still raises the question whether or not iSoc allegiance stayed town or not. 

 

By the way I would like to clarify one thing in advance: I do not watch Game of Thrones and thus do not know any references to the show. In case there are things that happen in this game that would make sense in from the shows perspective, please explain it to me like I'm a five year old

 

 

 

I am still hesitant as you mention that Isocialism is still town faction after being resurrected.  Seems some are upset with the idea of this modifier Brewers brought into it, I think it's quite unique in terms of mafia as it's something new.  It also adds some unknowns to the game, with not knowing if Isocialism got resurrected and remained as town, or he got brought back as a scum/SK, and if he got brought back and has his same role or a different one, or none at all.

 

I need to read back on what happened in the story in the timeframe this game is being played.  There are a few occasions in Game in Thrones where someone was killed or assumed dead and came back to life.  There's the idea of being brought back as a white walker, there's also the idea of Melisandre who worships the lord of the light, who in the story later on brought back John Snow from the dead.  Also, a character by name of Thoros of Myr resurrected Beric Dondarrion after the Hound killed him in season 3 of show.  But that happened in the 3rd book of the series, not Clash of Kings.

 

So the idea of people thought dead, being alive is a common thing in the series. 

 

Velocity, who was Davos Seaworth, I'd assume his scum partner's name is Stannis as they were together in the show.  It seems we have likely 2 scum factions in such a large game and 3 kills last night, so going from the books, I'd assume the other mafia scum is the Boltons, who with help of Theon Greyjoy destroyed Winterfell in Clash of Kings. 

 

I first thought, well with Isocialism alive, that he was resurrected and became a white walker (SK) in this game.  What makes me think likely not is there were already 3 night kills last night, so I'd assume we're looking at 2 scum factions and a SK.  I doubt he comes back as another SK as well, but maybe.  Hard to know for sure what faction Isocialism is, and I will continuously be cautious of Isocialism for that reason, and think it shouldn't be overlooked.  That being said, he could of been brought back as town and have a new role or same one, so don't think atm it's necessary he RC's in case he has night actions.  

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Not Voting :Colonel Medved, LordSunday,  Robert2424,  Sister Midnight, The Warrior,  Wolfpacks, Yehom


 


Currently in Danger of Mod Kill:  Jazzy-1 Post


 


With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline.  Deadline is Monday, Jan 14th at 2:00 PM CN time.


I wonder Isoc was resurrected because Brewsky set up the game as heavily anti-town and perhaps created a rule that the first mislynch would be resurrected.

I'm liking this, if there are 2 scum factions, then giving a kinda freebie on the first lynch makes sense, but the question is would it have been the same if scum had got lynched, would they have be resurrected as well

TW- I voted for MK and stated my reason. None of the chaos since has changed my opnion.

I don't know Game of Thrones either.

 

From my perspective:

 

  • A player was lynched.
  • By some unknown reason, he is back in the game.
  • Any number of mafia-game mechanics could have made that happen.

Aside from my theory of trying to balance a scum heavy game, what machanics?

Just make sure you post the required number of times before Monday so that you aren’t mod-killed.

 

I think TW was more trying to keep you from being mod killed then questioning your decision

 

 

Edit Damn slow typing

 

I get it and I appreciate it. It just so happened that who I wanted to vote for D1 was also who I wanted to vote for D2 so I had nothing to add after that. I'm following along as people try to understand iSoc's resurrection, but I don't have anything better to say than what's currently being stated.

Aside from my theory of trying to balance a scum heavy game, what machanics?

A player that was lynched is alive again.  Consider a few possibilities from mafiascum.net:

 

Reviver

A reviver can either refer to a player who can bring dead players back into the game

Lynchproof

A Lynchproof player is a player who is resistant to being lynched.

Deathproof

A Deathproof player cannot be killed or lynched.

 

And there's nothing that says the only roles possible are from those listed on mafiascum.net

 

 

iSocialism was revealed as town upon his lynching.

Now, he could be anything. (Just like the rest of you)

I’m willing to give iSoc the benefit of the doubt that he came back as Town since he was town when lynched. However, we might need to revisit him at some point because I could see how brewers could use GoT lore to make him scum upon his return.

 

MK’s lack of a defense is disappointing. This isn’t really any different than the other game, although he did come up as Town there. Having said that I will always come back to: Town players owe it to the Town to attempt to make a defense of themselves if they are in line to be lynched. At the very least you need to roleclaim as a last resort and share anything you might know so that town at least has something to work off of moving forward.

 

Deadline is tomorrow and MK is in line to be lynched. I will vote for him tomorrow morning if nothing has changed by then.

In that game, the only reason i RCed was to make sure that i helped in removing at least 1 scum.

I know how much leeway you would give such a role, but the others won't move, so one way or the other, someone has to do the dirty work.

 

But alas, CM prevailed.

 

As he is prevailing here too, and even if brewers made a freaking spreadsheet detailing why my statement that CM is after me, is wrong, I don't care. Period.

In that game, the only reason i RCed was to make sure that i helped in removing at least 1 scum.

I know how much leeway you would give such a role, but the others won't move, so one way or the other, someone has to do the dirty work.

 

But alas, CM prevailed.

 

As he is prevailing here too, and even if brewers made a freaking spreadsheet detailing why my statement that CM is after me, is wrong, I don't care. Period.

So, let me get this straight. You are ok with slandering me with no proof what so ever? That's pretty fucked up. IDK why all of the sudden you've adapted this game throwing personality, but it's sad. It's obvious you have some kind of resentment towards me, I'm not sure what I did but honestly I don't care at this point.

 

I have plenty to say about your charades in TW's game, but this isn't the place for it. I'll gladly go to length on it when the day is open again.

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